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Wot!?
Life inside a Covid quarantine hotel from with locked doors and windows and police guarding your room
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This is not going to end well. YMMV.
Acting DC Chief of Police Wants Permanent Fencing Around Capitol.
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Not the Babylon Bee:
“It’s obvious the Health Department wants to stop people from watching the Super Bowl outdoors at sports bars/restaurants, so they are now going to force people to watch it indoors with private home gatherings by taking the outdoor option away. Absolutely brilliant.”
LA County Bans Televisions in Outdoor Dining Spaces in New COVID Safety Rules.
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"In Brussels, police arrested over 200 people at an anti-lockdown protest at the weekend. Europe is in revolt against lockdown: Protests, riots and civil unrest have broken out across the continent. People are starting to reach a breaking point."
Europe on Lockdown!
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On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 12:01 PM, WillyTex wrote:
This is not going to end well.
It looks like the bar closure order that took effect Friday will be enforced by the police through Fat Tuesday. Go figure. Police emphasize clampdown on crowds as Mardi Gras nears
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People are going nuts in lockdown! YMMV.
Lockdown opponents call for arrest, assault and murder of medical officer of health
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On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 10:40 AM, WillyTex wrote:
People are going nuts in lockdown!
BARCELONA — It had all the markings of a free speech showdown... Rapper’s Arrest Awakens Rage in Spanish Youth Chafing in Pandemic
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Ireland is currently in the midst of its third lockdown. Go figure.
“Demonstrators handed out leaflets reading ‘let Ireland live’ and chanted ‘end the lockdown’.”
Hundreds rally in violent anti-lockdown protest in Ireland.
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On 2/28/21 10:57 AM, WillyTex via
groups.io wrote:
Ireland is currently in the midst of its third lockdown. Go
figure.
“Demonstrators handed out leaflets reading ‘let Ireland live’
and chanted ‘end the lockdown’.”
Hundreds rally in violent anti-lockdown protest in
Ireland.
So how many rallied in favor of the lockdowns?? Zero probably, which
tells us something. ?
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On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 02:46 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
So how many rallied in favor of the lockdowns?? Zero probably, which tells us something.
"...the lockdowns are the single worst public health mistake in the last 100 years." - Jay BhattacharyaStanford Doctor Calls Lockdowns the ‘Biggest Public Health Mistake We’ve Ever Made.’
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 07:13 PM, WillyTex wrote:
On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 02:46 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
So how many rallied in favor of the lockdowns?? Zero probably, which tells us something.
"...the lockdowns are the single worst public health mistake in the last 100 years." - Jay Bhattacharya
Stanford Doctor Calls Lockdowns the ‘Biggest Public Health Mistake We’ve Ever Made.’
Herd immunity as a viable idea in the 21st century, assuming no vaccinations, is old news.? Particularly since Biden has ushered in the vaccination program.? Bhattacharya wanted his day in the sun.? Back in October, he? circulated the Barrington Declaration.? He and this guy, Ioannidis, did the right wing talk show circuit.? Hilariously, Ioannidis contested herd immunity—his opinion was that the planet was overreacting—in favor of the theory that all was sensationalized and not that big a deal.? The conclusion by a consensus of epidemiologists and the broader scientific community was that the "study" he threw together was sloppy and the research badly flawed.? Both these guys have refused to admit they made mistakes, because their egos are fragile.? That's all this Newsweek article is—Bhattacharya refusing to admit he was wrong in October.? Come on, Willard, has your short-term memory completely failed you?? (In fact, winter brought a serious new wave of infection and death.) Now, about Bhattacharya. Last October (that's six months ago, in case you can't do the math) he circulated a petition.?
"In October, a group of scientists published the Great Barrington Declaration, which proposed hastening herd immunity to the virus by encouraging the young and healthy to resume normal life while increasing protections for the vulnerable. Jay Bhattacharya, a Stanford medical school professor who partnered with Ioannidis on the Santa Clara antibody study, was one of its organizers.
The declaration was quickly embraced by Trump administration officials, but not by Ioannidis. He refused to sign, saying questions of scientific fact should not be settled by petition.
But by then, Ioannidis had already made himself heard. He had appeared at least 18 times on major cable news networks, repeatedly questioning the severity of the pandemic. He acknowledged that his statements might have been exploited for political purposes but said the alternative — silencing his doubts, or withholding them from certain audiences — is dangerous as well.
But as the days grew colder and the death toll mounted, many public-health officials concluded that uncertainty was not saving lives, either. Desperate to beat back the virus, governments around the world were again closing businesses and imposing stay-at-home orders.
The predictions of a second wave Ioannidis had told Fox News viewers not to trust had proved right. The 10,000 American lives he said might be lost to the pandemic were vanishing almost every week. Germany began to quarantine visitors from Athens, preventing Ioannidis from returning to his research center in Berlin."
He boarded a flight back to California, where record-setting hospitalizations prompted a new round of lockdowns.
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Em
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On 3/11/21 8:42 AM, Emily Mae via
groups.io wrote:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 07:13 PM, WillyTex wrote:
On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 02:46 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
So how many rallied in favor of the lockdowns?? Zero
probably, which tells us something.
"...the lockdowns are the single worst public health mistake
in the last 100 years." - Jay Bhattacharya
Stanford Doctor Calls Lockdowns the ‘Biggest Public
Health Mistake We’ve Ever Made.’
Herd immunity as a viable idea in the 21st century, assuming no
vaccinations, is old news.? Particularly since Biden has ushered
in the vaccination program.? Bhattacharya wanted his day in the
sun.? Back in October, he? circulated the Barrington Declaration.?
He and this guy, Ioannidis, did the right wing talk show circuit.?
Hilariously, Ioannidis contested herd immunity—his opinion was
that the planet was overreacting—in favor of the theory that all
was sensationalized and not that big a deal.? The conclusion by a
consensus of epidemiologists and the broader scientific community
was that the "study" he threw together was sloppy and the research
badly flawed.?
Both these guys have refused to admit they made mistakes, because
their egos are fragile.? That's all this Newsweek article
is—Bhattacharya refusing to admit he was wrong in October.? Come
on, Willard, has your short-term memory completely failed you??
(In fact, winter brought a serious new wave of infection and
death.)
Now, about Bhattacharya. Last October (that's six months ago, in
case you can't do the math) he circulated a petition.?
"In
October, a group of scientists published the Great
Barrington Declaration, which proposed hastening herd
immunity to the virus by encouraging the young and healthy
to resume normal life while increasing protections for the
vulnerable. Jay Bhattacharya, a Stanford medical school
professor who partnered with Ioannidis on the Santa Clara
antibody study, was one of its organizers.
The
declaration was quickly embraced by Trump administration
officials, but not by Ioannidis. He refused to sign, saying
questions of scientific fact should not be settled
by petition.
But
by then, Ioannidis had already made himself heard. He had
appeared at least 18 times on major cable news networks,
repeatedly questioning the severity of the pandemic. He
acknowledged that his statements might have been exploited
for political purposes but said the alternative — silencing
his doubts, or withholding them from certain audiences — is
dangerous as well.
But
as the days grew colder and the death toll mounted, many
public-health officials concluded that uncertainty was not
saving lives, either. Desperate to beat back the virus,
governments around the world were again closing businesses
and imposing stay-at-home orders.
The
predictions of a second wave Ioannidis had told Fox News
viewers not to trust had proved right. The 10,000
American lives he said might be lost to the pandemic were
vanishing almost every week. Germany began to quarantine
visitors from Athens, preventing Ioannidis from returning to
his research center in Berlin."
He boarded a flight back to California, where record-setting
hospitalizations prompted a new round of lockdowns.
Hospitalizations from the flu season not covid.? Happens every year.
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 09:01 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
Hospitalizations from the flu season not covid.? Happens every year.
Your refusal to acknowledge the existence of Covid-19 and insistence in attributing massive numbers of hospitalizations and deaths to the flu is pure conspiracy theory.?? In WA, here is the reality.? This is due, btw, to wearing masks.? Zero lab-confirmed influenza deaths have been reported for the 2020-2021 season to date. ? Zero influenza-like illness outbreaks in long term care facilities have been reported for the 2020-2021 season to date. In CA, here is the reality:
The number of flu deaths reported statewide is down nearly 90%, with four flu deaths reported so far in the current flu season versus 39 flu deaths reported in the last flu season.
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Em
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On 3/12/21 9:06 AM, Emily Mae via
groups.io wrote:
On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 09:01 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
Hospitalizations from the flu season not covid.?
Happens every year.
Your refusal to acknowledge the existence of Covid-19 and
insistence in attributing massive numbers of hospitalizations and
deaths to the flu is pure conspiracy theory.??
Sieg hile Reich Officer Emily.? Massive numbers?? Really? You are
very delusional.
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On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 09:31 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
Hospitalizations from the flu season not covid.? Happens every year.
In CA, here is the reality:
The number of flu deaths reported statewide?is down nearly 90%, with four flu deaths reported so far?in the current flu season versus 39 flu deaths reported in the last flu season.
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Em
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On 3/13/21 7:47 AM, Emily Mae via
groups.io wrote:
On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 09:31 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
Hospitalizations from the flu season not covid.?
Happens every year.
In CA, here is the reality:
The
number of flu deaths reported statewide?is down nearly 90%, with four
flu deaths reported so far?in the current flu
season versus 39 flu deaths reported in the last flu season.
Hospitalizations is not deaths, Emily.
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On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 10:44 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
Hospitalizations from the flu season not covid.? Happens every year.
In CA, here is the reality:
The number of flu deaths reported statewide?is down nearly 90%, with four flu deaths reported so far?in the current flu season versus 39 flu deaths reported in the last flu season.
Hospitalizations is not deaths, Emily.
You missed my point.? But, if you prefer, hospitalization rates for the flu are one-third what they were during the last lowest flu season (2011-2012).?? To say that hospitalization numbers are substantially up because people with the flu are being tagged as Covid-19 patients is absurd, given that only 4 people died of the flu this season.? Or, are you saying something else??? ? --
Em
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On 3/13/21 5:10 PM, Emily Mae via
groups.io wrote:
On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 10:44 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
Hospitalizations from the flu season not covid.?
Happens every year.
In CA, here is the reality:
The number of flu deaths reported statewide?is down nearly 90%, with
four flu deaths reported so far?in the current
flu season versus 39 flu deaths reported in the last flu
season.
Hospitalizations is not deaths, Emily.
You missed my point.? But, if you prefer, hospitalization rates for
the flu are one-third what they were during the last
lowest flu season (2011-2012).??
To say that hospitalization numbers are substantially up because
people with the flu are being tagged as Covid-19 patients is
absurd, given that only 4 people died of the flu this season.? Or,
are you saying something else??
Our health stats for our area were quite clear about how many were
in the hospital for covid and how many flu or other things like
pneumonia (did you forget about that one). Covid cases were far
outnumbered by other kinds of cases.?? There is a group of us
locally who like to track these things.
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On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 10:08 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
Our health stats for our area were quite clear about how many were in the hospital for covid and how many flu or other things like pneumonia (did you forget about that one). Covid cases were far outnumbered by other kinds of cases.?? There is a group of us locally who like to track these things.
Complete nonsense.? Post the County data.? Put up or shut up.?? ? --
Em
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On 3/15/21 7:30 AM, Emily Mae via
groups.io wrote:
On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 10:08 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
Our health stats for our area were quite clear about
how many were in the hospital for covid and how many flu or
other things like pneumonia (did you forget about that one).
Covid cases were far outnumbered by other kinds of cases.??
There is a group of us locally who like to track these things.
Complete nonsense.? Post the County data.? Put up or shut up.?
I already did months ago.? You lost your memory already??
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Bhairitu
Emily Mae