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On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 09:24 AM, Bhairitu wrote:

Does the fact that he's black have significance?? Would you say "I heard a white activist this morning?"? He was amused?? I didn't see any black brothers with that crowd; I wonder how amused he would have been after being shot by said viking.?

So you're a racist.? How do you define racist?? Prove up your insult.

You tried to play the racist card because I called him a "black activist", a term even black leaders use themselves and how they are defined on Pacifica.? It's not a derogatory term.? So I called you a racist for doing that particularly because you made a racial issue.

FYI, probably because you never listen to Pacifica Radio (which is very left wing BTW) they celebrate "black activism" all the time.?

You are calling me a racist because I don't listen to Pacifica? Do you have any idea what racism is?? I asked you a question and for an explanation of what you meant.? I have zero problem with black activism.? As an example, I fully agree that you and I have done as well as we have because we have benefited from structural and systemic racism.?

If you'd posted the source of your comment, we wouldn't be having this conversation.? I listened to the interview and have the context now for why he thought the whole scene amusing—two different purveyors of white supremacy (government and the insurrectionists) at war with each other.? He's just going to sit back with his popcorn and enjoy the show.? I'm not impressed with his casual and cynical attitude, although I understand his anger.? Unfortunately, he's applied the wrong context to this situation, imo. And, 5 people died and several were seriously injured.? It isn't amusing.? I also disagree with the conclusion he came to from watching Biden's meeting with the NAACP and others.? The black activists out in front right now are all about pushing for structural change via Biden's presidency and there will be change.? It's the GOP they need to worry about, not Biden.? ?

The pro-democracy Democrats need to hold the WH and Congress for multiple terms.? The GOP is now the anti-democracy party, headed by tRump. They are transparent in their agenda; they peddle any number of conspiracy theories to forward their goal(s).? They are brainwashed and driven by their baser instincts. A multitude of media outlets drive narratives of an alternate reality.? They are convinced that the "others" look down on them and mock them and want to take their freedoms away.? They are armed with a victim mentality and they want revenge.? They have infiltrated Congress and police departments in large numbers. Let us not fool ourselves.

I predicted at the beginning of Trump's presidency that he would start a war.? Turns out it's civil, not foreign.? Makes total sense in hindsight. We are in a dangerous place with our democracy.? Luckily, the pro-democracy contingent is larger than the anti-democracy contingent and as long as we stay engaged and committed, we will prevail.?

I believe, sadly, however, that more violence is on the horizon.? 40,000 people attended tRump's call to action and there were protests across the nation.? Somehow, everyone except congressional Democrats knew what was going to happen on January 6th.? The agencies tRump controls facilitated it.? He is a traitor and should be prosecuted and thrown in prison.? I always like to end on that note!!? Have a good day.?

I heard a black activist this morning on Pacifica say he was amused at the "viking" who briefly took over the Congress chamber??

So here is the interview with Kali Akuno:

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On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 09:24 AM, Bhairitu wrote:

Does the fact that he's black have significance?? Would you say "I heard a white activist this morning?"? He was amused?? I didn't see any black brothers with that crowd; I wonder how amused he would have been after being shot by said viking.?

So you're a racist.? How do you define racist?? Prove up your insult.?

FYI, probably because you never listen to Pacifica Radio (which is very left wing BTW) they celebrate "black activism" all the time.?

You are calling me a racist because I don't listen to Pacifica? Do you have any idea what racism is?? I asked you a question and for an explanation of what you meant.? I have zero problem with black activism.? As an example, I fully agree that you and I have done as well as we have because we have benefited from structural and systemic racism.?

If you'd posted the source of your comment, we wouldn't be having this conversation.? I listened to the interview and have the context now for why he thought the whole scene amusing—two different purveyors of white supremacy (government and the insurrectionists) at war with each other.? He's just going to sit back with his popcorn and enjoy the show.? I'm not impressed with his casual and cynical attitude, although I understand his anger.? Unfortunately, he's applied the wrong context to this situation, imo. And, 5 people died and several were seriously injured.? It isn't amusing.? I also disagree with the conclusion he came to from watching Biden's meeting with the NAACP and others.? The black activists out in front right now are all about pushing for structural change via Biden's presidency and there will be change.? It's the GOP they need to worry about, not Biden.? ?

The pro-democracy Democrats need to hold the WH and Congress for multiple terms.? The GOP is now the anti-democracy party, headed by tRump. They are transparent in their agenda; they peddle any number of conspiracy theories to forward their goal(s).? They are brainwashed and driven by their baser instincts. A multitude of media outlets drive narratives of an alternate reality.? They are convinced that the "others" look down on them and mock them and want to take their freedoms away.? They are armed with a victim mentality and they want revenge.? They have infiltrated Congress and police departments in large numbers. Let us not fool ourselves.

I predicted at the beginning of Trump's presidency that he would start a war.? Turns out it's civil, not foreign.? Makes total sense in hindsight. We are in a dangerous place with our democracy.? Luckily, the pro-democracy contingent is larger than the anti-democracy contingent and as long as we stay engaged and committed, we will prevail.?

I believe, sadly, however, that more violence is on the horizon.? 40,000 people attended tRump's call to action and there were protests across the nation.? Somehow, everyone except congressional Democrats knew what was going to happen on January 6th.? The agencies tRump controls facilitated it.? He is a traitor and should be prosecuted and thrown in prison.? I always like to end on that note!!? Have a good day.?

I heard a black activist this morning on Pacifica say he was amused at the "viking" who briefly took over the Congress chamber??

So here is the interview with Kali Akuno:

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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 01:17 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

I heard a black activist this morning on Pacifica say he was amused at the "viking" who briefly took over the Congress chamber

Does the fact that he's black have significance?? Would you say "I heard a white activist this morning?"? He was amused?? I didn't see any black brothers with that crowd; I wonder how amused he would have been after being shot by said viking.?

So you're a racist.? FYI, probably because you never listen to Pacifica Radio (which is very left wing BTW) they celebrate "black activism" all the time.? So here is the interview with Kali Akuno:

and pointed out that the US has been destabilizing countries for decades and finally got a dose of it's own medicine.? Karma.

I will agree that our behavior has been reprehensible many times.

This was about our puppet president and his administration being so willfully ignorant and purposefully incompetent that they waved in Putin's hack deep into our government infrastructure, gave him cover with the violent distraction of tRump's very own authoritarian challenge to the constitution and Congress (with a special stab in the back for his lap dog), and then after all he did (for his own demagogue syndrome as well as for Putin) to take down our government, he didn't even get to reap the reward of becoming the dictator he aspired to. Instead, Putin didn't hack our elections to help him and he lost to his polar opposite and a black woman; he was unceremoniously dumped by Putin, who is laughing all the way to the Kremlin.? Trump Moscow?? Not happening.

Also left leaning political analysts interviewed on Pacifica have warned listeners we will need to hold the Biden administration's feet to the fire because Biden is a war hawk.? Of course most Pacifica listeners know that the Democratic Party has been taken over by corporate interests and the people matter little to them.? So liberals will have plenty to do even after Trump is gone.

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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 01:17 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

I heard a black activist this morning on Pacifica say he was amused at the "viking" who briefly took over the Congress chamber

Does the fact that he's black have significance?? Would you say "I heard a white activist this morning?"? He was amused?? I didn't see any black brothers with that crowd; I wonder how amused he would have been after being shot by said viking.??

and pointed out that the US has been destabilizing countries for decades and finally got a dose of it's own medicine.? Karma.

I will agree that our behavior has been reprehensible many times.

This was about our puppet president and his administration being so willfully ignorant and purposefully incompetent that they waved in Putin's hack deep into our government infrastructure, gave him cover with the violent distraction of tRump's very own authoritarian challenge to the constitution and Congress (with a special stab in the back for his lap dog), and then after all he did (for his own demagogue syndrome as well as for Putin) to take down our government, he didn't even get to reap the reward of becoming the dictator he aspired to. Instead, Putin didn't hack our elections to help him and he lost to his polar opposite and a black woman; he was unceremoniously dumped by Putin, who is laughing all the way to the Kremlin.? Trump Moscow?? Not happening.??


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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 03:29 PM, WillyTex wrote:

Insanity Wrap

Fill it with adulation of an unstable, raging, narcissist; dreams of anarchy and insurrection; entitlement, lies and racism. Smother it with victim mentality, add a bit of deplorable incorrigible, and sprinkle it with sadism.? Wash it down with an utter lack of common sense.? Enjoy!!??

Suggest you take it easy on the vodka so you can get out of those pajamas.??
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 01:48 PM, Emily Mae wrote:

Are you being facetious

"...a four-year-long temper tantrum in response to Trump’s 2016 victory, culminating with them turning 2020 into the worst year of riots since 1968. Worse was the running coup attempt against Trump that began before he was even sworn into office."

Insanity Wrap

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On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 02:31 PM, Emily Mae wrote:

An inside job!!

Obviously the whole thing was a staged media event. YMMV.

Yeah, seemed to be like a Hollywood production. ;-)

I heard a black activist this morning on Pacifica say he was amused at the "viking" who briefly took over the Congress chamber and pointed out that the US has been destabilizing countries for decades and finally got a dose of it's own medicine.? Karma.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 06:17 AM, awb wrote:

I don't think Pence would pardon him at this point. These politicians were shitting their pants yesterday. They finally "got it". Supporting trump has always been a losing proposition. There will come a time when he will finally ask the impossible and the toady will fail to satisfy him and ultimately trump will turn on them and everyone else. There is no winning with him. Anyone who tries to keep him happy are on a fool's errand. Watching L. Graham last night in his speech was nauseating. Actually, the events of yesterday were a supreme gift to all of us with a modicum of sanity. The end of trump is like a fucking fairytale and, to boot, we won both Senatorial seats in Georgia. What's not to like? I am personally going to thoroughly enjoy watching the trump clan squirm and squeal over the next few days. This has been a verrrrrrry long time coming.

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If Pence doesn't invoke the 25th Amendment or they don't impeach and remove him, they didn't get it.? They are complicit.? All of the GOP in Congress, with the exception of the few who may cross the aisle to stand with the group calling for removal.? If they don't follow through with removal, they will go down in history as being the lamest, weakest bunch of deluded, tRump Party, anti-democracy excuses for representatives that was ever elected to govern.??

Watching Lindsey Graham last night do his "haw, haw, enough is enough" political survival speech was so pathetic!? It's hard to believe SC reelected him when they could have had Jaime Harrison.? I wasn't impressed with Mitchy's political survival speech either.? Rats leaving a sinking ship is all that was.?

I'm fully excited also about the Georgia win and what that means.? Once the dust clears, however, I expect Mitchy to continue his obstructionist agenda.??

I think the "lessons learned" from electing tRump are possible, largely due to his disordered need for validation and public airing of it all.? Character matters.? Those that continue to believe otherwise are stuck in the abusive, domestically violent dynamic.??
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 11:58 AM, Emily Mae wrote:

No idiot, they wouldn't.? ?
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I apologize.? That was an idiot statement is my point.? I've never met you.??
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:31 AM, WillyTex wrote:

Does anyone really think there wouldn’t have been riots if Trump had been declared the winner?

"Declared the winner?"? What, you mean by Mike Pence?? To help orchestrate the soft coup?? Who had no authority to even contemplate such a move, despite what tRump tweeted out?? tRump never did bother to learn how the government works.??

tRump wants to start a civil war and command the military.? That's his delusion.? If he can't be president by democratic means than fuck democracy.? It's always been that.? He can't have his wall?? Fuck Congress and shut down the government until someone figures out how to get him what he wants.??

You think this is a moment to make up some falsely equivalent, crybaby, partisan whine about how "well, the Democrats would have done the same thing."? No idiot, they wouldn't.? ?
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:43 AM, WillyTex wrote:

Obviously the whole thing was a staged media event. YMMV.

Are you being facetious or did you hear tRump's speech?? It appears the Capitol Police were "astonished" and "didn't expect" it.? Really??? How come most of America expected it???? To put the entire Congress at risk like that is unbelievable.?

Check out how the the Defense Department, under tRump's loyalist, assisted tRump and Guiliani's (at a minimum) plan.? I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz knew what was going to go down.? Josh was giving them the tRump Party salute.?

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On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 02:31 PM, Emily Mae wrote:

An inside job!!

Obviously the whole thing was a staged media event. YMMV.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 08:38 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:

Are they really too stupid to see how they’re being played

Video shows cops HELPING rioters and posing for selfies

On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 03:49 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

Yes, I would say things are going as expected.

"Trump’s ascendance is a symptom of a colossal failure among America’s political leaders." YMMV.

Welcome to Banana Republic, USA

On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 02:31 PM, Emily Mae wrote:

What?

Does anyone really think there wouldn’t have been riots if Trump had been declared the winner?

On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 08:58 PM, Emily Mae wrote:

He needs to be arrested and thrown in a padded cell until his day in court.

Trump should be put on house arrest and censored on social media for committing crimes against humanity! YMMV.

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On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 06:58 PM, Emily Mae wrote:

On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 05:28 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:

But I’ll bet anything Trump will be gone by tomorrow evening.?

He'll fly off to Brazil?? There still aren't enough Senators with a moral compass to vote him out under impeachment or the 25th.? He needs to be arrested and thrown in a padded cell until his day in court.? God help us if he starts a war on Iran or worse. You think Pence will still pardon him?? ?
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I don't think Pence would pardon him at this point. These politicians were shitting their pants yesterday. They finally "got it". Supporting trump has always been a losing proposition. There will come a time when he will finally ask the impossible and the toady will fail to satisfy him and ultimately trump will turn on them and everyone else. There is no winning with him. Anyone who tries to keep him happy are on a fool's errand. Watching L. Graham last night in his speech was nauseating. Actually, the events of yesterday were a supreme gift to all of us with a modicum of sanity. The end of trump is like a fucking fairytale and, to boot, we won both Senatorial seats in Georgia. What's not to like? I am personally going to thoroughly enjoy watching the trump clan squirm and squeal over the next few days. This has been a verrrrrrry long time coming.

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On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 05:28 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:

But I’ll bet anything Trump will be gone by tomorrow evening.?

He'll fly off to Brazil?? There still aren't enough Senators with a moral compass to vote him out under impeachment or the 25th.? He needs to be arrested and thrown in a padded cell until his day in court.? God help us if he starts a war on Iran or worse. You think Pence will still pardon him?? ?
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I think it’s hilarious how both Trump and Rudy were doing a great job...before the takeover... of somehow making this all Pence’s doing. ?Serves him right for being such a toady.