Who owns the news? What is the news? There's no news. Everything is news. And, who gets their news on Facebook anyway? YMMV.

"Concerns have been raised that misinformation will be spread on the site by bloggers and conspiracy theorists now that legitimate news sources have been removed."

Google To Pay For News Content

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 07:45 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

Are we there yet?

China burns about half the world’s coal and plans to expand its coal power in the coming years and increase carbon pollution while the U.S. and European Union decrease output. YMMV.

According to what I've read, the nonbinding Paris Agreement can’t compel China to change course. Go figure.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 05:48 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

Your reading comprehension sucks, Emily.? Go back and read my original post.

I read it.? What I am saying is....if you read the article, you'll disagree with the description as "secret" (because it clearly says it isn't) and also that it's some kind of a scientific prediction—it's neither of those things.? I'd argue that whoever wrote the Observer?article got it wrong. Which you, as a self-described analytical person would know, if you read the source article. You're so quick to see the word "secret" and assume a conspiracy, I thought I'd check your assumptions for you. It *was* commissioned by a DOD planner.??You're welcome.?

In fact, from a 2004 review of said report:?

While?The Observer?sensationalized the story with its erroneous claim that the report was “secret” and “suppressed by U.S. defense chiefs” when in fact it had already been publicly discussed, the document is worthy of even the British press’ flair for melodrama.?

When Muckraker contacted White House?Council on Environmental Quality?spokesperson?Dana Perino?for a statement on the report, she responded, “I haven’t seen it, I haven’t read it, and I don’t want to make any comments on the matter. As I understand it, this is a ‘what-if’ scenario — not a diagnosis, not a prophecy, and not a foundation for new policy.”

https://grist.org/article/pentagoners/



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Your reading comprehension sucks, Emily.? Go back and read my original post.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 04:41 PM, Emily Mae wrote:

It was a scientific report commissioned by the Pentagon just as climate change research was commissioned by the Pentagon.? Climate change research was not an altruistic effort to save life on the planet but where to put military bases.

That said, the polar ice caps are melting at an astounding rate, much faster than predicted.? The human race is clearly due for a correction.? ?

Most likely extinction.

Do you ever read the articles you post? Page 1 of the report says the following:

The purpose of this report is to imagine the unthinkable – to push the boundaries of current research on climate change so we may better understand the potential implications on United States national security. We have interviewed leading climate change scientists, conducted additional research, and reviewed several iterations of the scenario with these experts.

The scientists support this project, but caution that the scenario depicted is extreme in two fundamental ways. First, they suggest the occurrences we outline would most likely happen in a few regions, rather than on globally. Second, they say the magnitude of the event may be considerably smaller. We have created a climate change scenario that although not the most likely, is plausible, and would challenge United States national security in ways that should be considered immediately.?

Secondly, why do you say it was secret?? It was written in 2003 and approved for public release (see the form attached to Page 1).? It looks like it was commissioned by the Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA, not the Pentagon.? Maybe you mean the larger report?? This is just an Appendix.?

It contains nothing that would guide the location of military bases and interestingly what was imagined for 2020 hasn't occurred. Interesting though. These are the goals of the report:

This scenario poses new challenges for the United States, and suggests several steps to be taken: ? Improve predictive climate models to allow investigation of a wider range of scenarios and to anticipate how and where changes could occur ? Assemble comprehensive predictive models of the potential impacts of abrupt climate change to improve projections of how climate could influence food, water, and energy ? Create vulnerability metrics to anticipate which countries are most vulnerable to climate change and therefore, could contribute materially to an increasingly disorderly and potentially violent world. Abrupt Climate Change 2 ? Identify no-regrets strategies such as enhancing capabilities for water management ? Rehearse adaptive responses ? Explore local implications ? Explore geo-engineering options that control the climate


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On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 09:14 AM, Bhairitu wrote:

The report was an imagination of a worst-case scenario that the national security apparatus could use to bolster readiness.? It wasn't a prediction and much of what is imagined in this report has yet to occur.?

It was a scientific report commissioned by the Pentagon just as climate change research was commissioned by the Pentagon.? Climate change research was not an altruistic effort to save life on the planet but where to put military bases.

That said, the polar ice caps are melting at an astounding rate, much faster than predicted.? The human race is clearly due for a correction.? ?

Most likely extinction.

Do you ever read the articles you post? Page 1 of the report says the following:

The purpose of this report is to imagine the unthinkable – to push the boundaries of current research on climate change so we may better understand the potential implications on United States national security. We have interviewed leading climate change scientists, conducted additional research, and reviewed several iterations of the scenario with these experts.

The scientists support this project, but caution that the scenario depicted is extreme in two fundamental ways. First, they suggest the occurrences we outline would most likely happen in a few regions, rather than on globally. Second, they say the magnitude of the event may be considerably smaller. We have created a climate change scenario that although not the most likely, is plausible, and would challenge United States national security in ways that should be considered immediately.?
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On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 11:10 AM, WillyTex wrote:

The real problem is energy - where you get it and how much does it cost? YMMV.

Easy.? You get yours from Texas.? It costs a lot right now and ERCOT is going to raise rates.? Maybe they'll decide to winterize their infrastructure.??
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On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 01:25 PM, WillyTex wrote:

Also, there are some good photos—one showing the scope of the crowd outside the capitol.??

"... there is no evidence of a single protester wielding let alone using a firearm inside the Capitol on that day."

Uhhh, where in what you quoted that I wrote do you see the word "firearm?"? Or the word "inside?"? I'm taking pity on you because I assume you're in Texas, although maybe by this time you've moved over to AZ or CA, but like I said, you're going to have to get a lot smarter in your responses to what I write if you want me to reply.??
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On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 11:29 AM, Bhairitu wrote:

Not an alien from Mexico but extra-terrestrial

The Pentagon quietly just kind of admits to studying alien materials for decades. Go figure.

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They're now talking about building offshore wind systems here in the Bay Area.

When we had planned outages two years ago I got to try out my camp stove for the first time and figure out what I would want to have on hand if outages occurred again.? They have had planned outages since but what they learned since is there are some grids they should not turn off.? I happen to be on one of those grids due to hospitals nearby.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 12:19 PM, Emily Mae wrote:

Also, there are some good photos—one showing the scope of the crowd outside the capitol.??

"... there is no evidence of a single protester wielding let alone using a firearm inside the Capitol on that day."

The False and Exaggerated Claims Still Being Spread About the Capitol Riot.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 02:30 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

tricks to keep the bill down are working.

That's what we get for depending on silly windmills for power in the Green New Deal. YMMV.

Republican Gov. Greg Abbott proudly accepted something called the Wind Leadership Award. Go figure.

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I have one of those despicable wireless meters but that means I can log onto my account and watch how my tricks to keep the bill down are working.

Read on the internet:

"My electric bill this month should be the lowest it's been since I was single!"

"Power started at 2
Power ended at 2:07
Power started at 2:40
Power ended at 2:44
Yeah that’s right - I’m keeping track!"

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 09:20 AM, WillyTex wrote:

Bad storm watch out!

Saturday Household Hazardous Waste Event Cancelled at Arlington.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 11:23 AM, Emily Mae wrote:

Don't leave your car running with the garage door closed.??
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Thanks for the tip!

The real problem is energy - where you get it and how much does it cost? YMMV.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 11:16 AM, Bhairitu wrote:

Must be global warming?

Scientists say global warming caused by humans is partly responsible for making the polar vortex’s southward escapes longer and more frequent. YMMV.

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On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 05:45 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

I mentioned this study back in 2004 on FFL:

Climate change over the next 20 years could result in a global catastrophe costing millions of lives in wars and natural disasters..

A , suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a ‘Siberian’ climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world.

Above from the Guardian:

The report:

Are we there yet?

The report was an imagination of a worst-case scenario that the national security apparatus could use to bolster readiness.? It wasn't a prediction and much of what is imagined in this report has yet to occur.?

It was a scientific report commissioned by the Pentagon just as climate change research was commissioned by the Pentagon.? Climate change research was not an altruistic effort to save life on the planet but where to put military bases.

That said, the polar ice caps are melting at an astounding rate, much faster than predicted.? The human race is clearly due for a correction.? ?

Most likely extinction.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 05:45 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

I mentioned this study back in 2004 on FFL:

Climate change over the next 20 years could result in a global catastrophe costing millions of lives in wars and natural disasters..

A , suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a ‘Siberian’ climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world.

Above from the Guardian:

The report:

Are we there yet?

The report was an imagination of a worst-case scenario that the national security apparatus could use to bolster readiness.? It wasn't a prediction and much of what is imagined in this report has yet to occur.?

That said, the polar ice caps are melting at an astounding rate, much faster than predicted.? The human race is clearly due for a correction.? ?


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