Re: If You Don't Have A Center, You Don't Have Stability
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You must watch lot of MTV Steve? Or listen to rap songs? Or black reality shows? Are menthol cigarettes cultural?
Just to also consider that black folks have embraced and continue to embrace derogatory, racist, judgmental, stereotypes assigned to them by their oppressors - you know to take the power away, or surrender, accept as they have lives to live!!
I wonder though - do you have derogatory terms for white southern women - say of Appalachia? Is it cultural for them? Is it a reflection of the entire White race? Or more kids equates to more money from guvmint? Hence socio-economic? I personally don¡¯t judge either a black teen mom from St. Louis or white teen mom from West Virginia.?
You are from what I can tell a very friendly, nice guy if I ran into you in my neighborhood but the casual racism you show, though not obvious to you, is very transparent to some! (And I do see many older white guys in my neighborhood exactly like you - not kidding!)
Yours truly, The resident Indian Chief.?
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On Jul 31, 2022, at 6:52 PM, Steve Sundur via groups.io <steve.sundur@...> wrote:
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Ravi:? Of course,?doesn¡¯t mean Steve¡¯s comments aren't racist - Black teens do have more babies, but it¡¯s not a race thing more so than socioeconomic - poverty, education etc and system racism that¡¯s the cause of many other issues also is the contributor.
It's really rather fascinating.? I see it up close, from both the women's side, and the men's side. Even delicate discussions that get into the nitty gritty. Baby Mama and Baby Daddy issues across the board.
Many of the things you indicate above are true.? But there are cultural components as well.? I won't go into them now, but I follow some of the facebook postings of some of women who have worked for me.
There are cultural differences.? There just are.? And I am not making a value judgement about it.?? ?
? On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 08:58:53 AM CDT, Emily Mae via < emily.mae50@...> wrote:
On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 08:08 PM, Steve Sundur wrote:But you seem to imply that any who works hard, who comes up with innovations, and is rewarded thus, is somehow undeserving, and has gamed the system.? Hey, I don't know what you mean here.? What is the "S" word?? "Structural"?? Are you saying that because I'm acknowledging the existence of "Structural racism", I'm saying what you state above????
I'm sorry.? That was very unclear.? The "S" work I'm referring to was "socialist".? But, since you bring up racism, I am wondering where you draw the line between personal responsibility/accountability and racism, as it pertains to some of the endemic problems in the black community.
For example, do black women giving birth in their teens, with no male figure in the picture, or perhaps a revolving door of black men, is this racism, or a matter of personal choice.??
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