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Re: Realist


 

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Not sure if any confrontational debates means ANY debates, but I will tiptoe
in the opposite direction to address some of your points.

The Democrats do not tell ¡°most Americans¡± they are racist. ?I¡¯m not sure they tell it to anyone. When was the last time you heard a Democratic leader or ANY Democrat for that matter call someone that? ?I haven¡¯t.

FWIW I too find the they/them silliness ?grating, not to mention it doesn¡¯t even make sense to use a plural pronoun in the singular. ? And if I never hear ¡°pregnant people¡± again I¡¯ll be very happy, it¡¯s ?just plain dumb. ?And I¡¯m pretty sure no Democrats in Congress or the WH encourage any of this¡­ or discourage it either. ?

But the pronoun wars and other nonsense are pretty recent, while the Democrats¡¯ amazing ability to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory has been going on for decades. ?So I really don¡¯t think that¡¯s it, or if so a very small part.

What is it then? ?Republicans cheat. They don¡¯t fight fair, they bend and twist the laws to give ?themselves unfair advantages, they make personal attacks their entire platform because otherwise they wouldn¡¯t have one. ?For examples I give you Bush vs Gore, I give you Swift-boating, I give you Tan Suitgate (talk about dumb!), I give you a ¡°president¡± who sat around and fiddled while half a million died, I give you at least two SCOTUS justices who lied to Congress in order to get nominated¡­. And on and on.

I¡¯d say any one of those is a little more important than the silly pronoun wars. ?But you know Steve, if you or anyone else want to take nonsense like that personally rather than voting for competent, sane candidates who have the nerve to think the country we live in and the planet we inhabit are worth saving¡­ then I guess that¡¯s what ?you should do.

Sal


On Jul 24, 2022, at 7:29 PM, Steve Sundur via groups.io <steve.sundur@...> wrote:

?I will tip toe in here, but I won't engage in any confrontational debates.

You wonder why, in spite of the horrid selection of republican candidates, the democrats cannot gain any traction?? It is because most Americans are tired of being told they are racist.? That most Americans DO NOT CARE about using "them and they" pronouns and having that agenda thrust upon them.? That most Americans don't understand why some democrats cannot acknowledge that men cannot have babies.? Has it occurred to you that a democrat running on the platform from the Kennedy years, or even possibly the Clinton years would have no chance of securing the nomination because it would be seen as too far right?

There are people like me, a lot of people like me, who feel this way.? We view the positions of the democratic party as basically socialist.? I realize that most in this group embrace those positions, so I won't debate it.? But this is why, in spite of what should be a full-throated rejection of the anti-democratic positions of the republican party the democrats still find themselves losing.?

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