I’ve been working on finding a site for the
mailboxes since
the Board Meeting last September.?
On
September 17, 2020, I sent the Chair of the 3 Canyons Master
Design Committee a
“heads-up” email about our plans to install mailboxes. There was
little
progress in the fall because I was waiting for a Board meeting to
be called to
discuss the mailboxes. The meeting in March was the first since
September.
I must admit that I’m a little frustrated with
the slow pace
of progress, especially the past few months. Frankly, I feel it
has been me,
who has wanted to explore all the potential sites simultaneously,
against the
Road District that focused solely on site #1 east, which I’ve
always thought was
a very long shot.
Why is the Road District so set on site #1
east? This is
what Jimmy said in his email of March 21.
“We think #1 is the best option for these
reasons.
1. The mailboxes would be located on the east side of the road
which is
convenient.?
2. The pull out is on private property. If we lose access to the
pull out,
where will we park?”?
That’s it. Why have the other potential sites,
#3 west and #1
west, been ignored?
As I’ve said numerous times, I have no favorite
site. I
just want to have mailboxes. At least three factors need to be
considered in
evaluating potential sites: legality, spaciousness, and
convenience, with legality
by far the most important. ?Legality
involves contacting the property owners and spaciousness involves
knowing the
location of the property line.
They surveyors were originally scheduled to
come out in
early February, but they haven’t been here yet. They haven’t been
given the
priority that they deserve. We don’t need much information. Only
the location
of the property line at site #1 west and site #3 west.
I request authorization from Jim to contact
the surveyors
ASAP and to meet with them when they are here.
We also need to contact the property owners of
site #3
west.?
I request authorization from Jim to contact
the property
owners of site #3 west. I believe that he has their contact
information.
Unfortunately, we’re not going to make my goal
of having mailboxes
installed before Sharon and I leave for the summer at the end of
May. (I didn’t
expect it to take eight months just to find a site along Fairfield
Cir!) Nevertheless,
I will continue putting my best effort into the project, and
hopefully someone will
take over when we leave.
Ken
|
I concur with Ken and support his request to contact and meet the Surveyors and contact the property owner for Site 3.?
I guess I wasn’t tracking site 1 west was still an option. Correct me if I am wrong, but that would be on the remaining part of the easement the road is built on? If so then I think that would be a great location and we should also pursue it. With the understanding we need the surveyor to confirm the property line.?
Respectfully,
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On Apr 14, 2021, at 10:51 AM, Ken Cameron via < rocks@...> wrote:
I’ve been working on finding a site for the
mailboxes since
the Board Meeting last September.?
On
September 17, 2020, I sent the Chair of the 3 Canyons Master
Design Committee a
“heads-up” email about our plans to install mailboxes. There was
little
progress in the fall because I was waiting for a Board meeting to
be called to
discuss the mailboxes. The meeting in March was the first since
September. I must admit that I’m a little frustrated with
the slow pace
of progress, especially the past few months. Frankly, I feel it
has been me,
who has wanted to explore all the potential sites simultaneously,
against the
Road District that focused solely on site #1 east, which I’ve
always thought was
a very long shot. Why is the Road District so set on site #1
east? This is
what Jimmy said in his email of March 21. “We think #1 is the best option for these
reasons.
1. The mailboxes would be located on the east side of the road
which is
convenient.?
2. The pull out is on private property. If we lose access to the
pull out,
where will we park?”? That’s it. Why have the other potential sites,
#3 west and #1
west, been ignored? As I’ve said numerous times, I have no favorite
site. I
just want to have mailboxes. At least three factors need to be
considered in
evaluating potential sites: legality, spaciousness, and
convenience, with legality
by far the most important. ?Legality
involves contacting the property owners and spaciousness involves
knowing the
location of the property line. They surveyors were originally scheduled to
come out in
early February, but they haven’t been here yet. They haven’t been
given the
priority that they deserve. We don’t need much information. Only
the location
of the property line at site #1 west and site #3 west. I request authorization from Jim to contact
the surveyors
ASAP and to meet with them when they are here. We also need to contact the property owners of
site #3
west.? I request authorization from Jim to contact
the property
owners of site #3 west. I believe that he has their contact
information. Unfortunately, we’re not going to make my goal
of having mailboxes
installed before Sharon and I leave for the summer at the end of
May. (I didn’t
expect it to take eight months just to find a site along Fairfield
Cir!) Nevertheless,
I will continue putting my best effort into the project, and
hopefully someone will
take over when we leave.
Ken
|
Thanks Matthew,
In terms of spaciousness, site 1 west
is clearly the least desirable, but it has one hugely important
thing going for it.? We own the land.?
At site 1, there is about 17' between
the west edge of the road and the fence.? We don't know the exact
location of the property line, thus don't know how much room we
would have for the boxes and parking.? My guess is that we might
have 12' between the road and property line, which would be the
minimum needed for the base of the boxes (4 ft) and parking. But
12' is only a guess and it might prove to be significantly less.?
At site #3 west there is a few more
feet between the edge of the road and fence, thus it's likely to
be more spacious. Also I would consider it more convenient to the
houses than #1 west.? But we haven't dealt with the legal issues
yet.
Ken
On 4/14/2021 11:10 AM, Matthew Paddock
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I concur with Ken and support his request to contact and meet the
Surveyors and contact the property owner for Site 3.?
I guess I wasn’t tracking site 1 west was still an
option. Correct me if I am wrong, but that would be on the
remaining part of the easement the road is built on? If so then
I think that would be a great location and we should also pursue
it. With the understanding we need the surveyor to confirm the
property line.?
Respectfully,
Matthew Paddock
On Apr 14, 2021, at 10:51 AM, Ken Cameron via
< rocks@...>
wrote:
I’ve been working on finding a site
for the mailboxes since the Board Meeting last
September.? On
September 17, 2020, I sent the Chair of the 3 Canyons
Master Design Committee a “heads-up” email about our
plans to install mailboxes. There was little progress
in the fall because I was waiting for a Board meeting
to be called to discuss the mailboxes. The meeting in
March was the first since September.
I must admit that I’m a little
frustrated with the slow pace of progress, especially
the past few months. Frankly, I feel it has been me,
who has wanted to explore all the potential sites
simultaneously, against the Road District that focused
solely on site #1 east, which I’ve always thought was
a very long shot.
Why is the Road District so set on
site #1 east? This is what Jimmy said in his email of
March 21.
“We think #1 is the best option for
these reasons.
1. The mailboxes would be located on the east side of
the road which is convenient.?
2. The pull out is on private property. If we lose
access to the pull out, where will we park?”?
That’s it. Why have the other
potential sites, #3 west and #1 west, been ignored?
As I’ve said numerous times, I have
no favorite site. I just want to have mailboxes. At
least three factors need to be considered in
evaluating potential sites: legality, spaciousness,
and convenience, with legality by far the most
important. ?Legality
involves contacting the property owners and
spaciousness involves knowing the location of the
property line.
They surveyors were originally
scheduled to come out in early February, but they
haven’t been here yet. They haven’t been given the
priority that they deserve. We don’t need much
information. Only the location of the property line at
site #1 west and site #3 west.
I request authorization
from Jim to contact the surveyors ASAP and to meet
with them when they are here.
We also need to contact the
property owners of site #3 west.?
I request authorization
from Jim to contact the property owners of site #3
west. I believe that he has their contact
information.
Unfortunately, we’re not going to
make my goal of having mailboxes installed before
Sharon and I leave for the summer at the end of May.
(I didn’t expect it to take eight months just to find
a site along Fairfield Cir!) Nevertheless, I will
continue putting my best effort into the project, and
hopefully someone will take over when we leave.
Ken
|
Ken,
Thank you. Not sure why I wasn’t tracking all that. Depending on the Survey, I think we would be just fine with the space available at Site 1 west. I don’t think the amount of traffic we have would require us to have more than just a minimal amount of space to pull over and check the mail. My thoughts for what they are worth. Still need to the survey to confirm though.?
Matthew.?
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On Apr 14, 2021, at 11:37, Ken Cameron via groups.io <rocks@...> wrote:
?
Thanks Matthew,
In terms of spaciousness, site 1 west
is clearly the least desirable, but it has one hugely important
thing going for it.? We own the land.?
At site 1, there is about 17' between
the west edge of the road and the fence.? We don't know the exact
location of the property line, thus don't know how much room we
would have for the boxes and parking.? My guess is that we might
have 12' between the road and property line, which would be the
minimum needed for the base of the boxes (4 ft) and parking. But
12' is only a guess and it might prove to be significantly less.?
At site #3 west there is a few more
feet between the edge of the road and fence, thus it's likely to
be more spacious. Also I would consider it more convenient to the
houses than #1 west.? But we haven't dealt with the legal issues
yet.
Ken
On 4/14/2021 11:10 AM, Matthew Paddock
wrote:
I concur with Ken and support his request to contact and meet the
Surveyors and contact the property owner for Site 3.?
I guess I wasn’t tracking site 1 west was still an
option. Correct me if I am wrong, but that would be on the
remaining part of the easement the road is built on? If so then
I think that would be a great location and we should also pursue
it. With the understanding we need the surveyor to confirm the
property line.?
Respectfully,
Matthew Paddock
On Apr 14, 2021, at 10:51 AM, Ken Cameron via
< rocks@...>
wrote:
I’ve been working on finding a site
for the mailboxes since the Board Meeting last
September.? On
September 17, 2020, I sent the Chair of the 3 Canyons
Master Design Committee a “heads-up” email about our
plans to install mailboxes. There was little progress
in the fall because I was waiting for a Board meeting
to be called to discuss the mailboxes. The meeting in
March was the first since September.
I must admit that I’m a little
frustrated with the slow pace of progress, especially
the past few months. Frankly, I feel it has been me,
who has wanted to explore all the potential sites
simultaneously, against the Road District that focused
solely on site #1 east, which I’ve always thought was
a very long shot.
Why is the Road District so set on
site #1 east? This is what Jimmy said in his email of
March 21.
“We think #1 is the best option for
these reasons.
1. The mailboxes would be located on the east side of
the road which is convenient.?
2. The pull out is on private property. If we lose
access to the pull out, where will we park?”?
That’s it. Why have the other
potential sites, #3 west and #1 west, been ignored?
As I’ve said numerous times, I have
no favorite site. I just want to have mailboxes. At
least three factors need to be considered in
evaluating potential sites: legality, spaciousness,
and convenience, with legality by far the most
important. ?Legality
involves contacting the property owners and
spaciousness involves knowing the location of the
property line.
They surveyors were originally
scheduled to come out in early February, but they
haven’t been here yet. They haven’t been given the
priority that they deserve. We don’t need much
information. Only the location of the property line at
site #1 west and site #3 west.
I request authorization
from Jim to contact the surveyors ASAP and to meet
with them when they are here.
We also need to contact the
property owners of site #3 west.?
I request authorization
from Jim to contact the property owners of site #3
west. I believe that he has their contact
information.
Unfortunately, we’re not going to
make my goal of having mailboxes installed before
Sharon and I leave for the summer at the end of May.
(I didn’t expect it to take eight months just to find
a site along Fairfield Cir!) Nevertheless, I will
continue putting my best effort into the project, and
hopefully someone will take over when we leave.
Ken
|
Ken, I sure appreciate all of your work?on this, and I look forward to securing a spot for mailboxes.? Gratefully, Penny Nyander
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I’ve been working on finding a site for the
mailboxes since
the Board Meeting last September.?
On
September 17, 2020, I sent the Chair of the 3 Canyons Master
Design Committee a
“heads-up” email about our plans to install mailboxes. There was
little
progress in the fall because I was waiting for a Board meeting to
be called to
discuss the mailboxes. The meeting in March was the first since
September.
I must admit that I’m a little frustrated with
the slow pace
of progress, especially the past few months. Frankly, I feel it
has been me,
who has wanted to explore all the potential sites simultaneously,
against the
Road District that focused solely on site #1 east, which I’ve
always thought was
a very long shot.
Why is the Road District so set on site #1
east? This is
what Jimmy said in his email of March 21.
“We think #1 is the best option for these
reasons.
1. The mailboxes would be located on the east side of the road
which is
convenient.?
2. The pull out is on private property. If we lose access to the
pull out,
where will we park?”?
That’s it. Why have the other potential sites,
#3 west and #1
west, been ignored?
As I’ve said numerous times, I have no favorite
site. I
just want to have mailboxes. At least three factors need to be
considered in
evaluating potential sites: legality, spaciousness, and
convenience, with legality
by far the most important. ?Legality
involves contacting the property owners and spaciousness involves
knowing the
location of the property line.
They surveyors were originally scheduled to
come out in
early February, but they haven’t been here yet. They haven’t been
given the
priority that they deserve. We don’t need much information. Only
the location
of the property line at site #1 west and site #3 west.
I request authorization from Jim to contact
the surveyors
ASAP and to meet with them when they are here.
We also need to contact the property owners of
site #3
west.?
I request authorization from Jim to contact
the property
owners of site #3 west. I believe that he has their contact
information.
Unfortunately, we’re not going to make my goal
of having mailboxes
installed before Sharon and I leave for the summer at the end of
May. (I didn’t
expect it to take eight months just to find a site along Fairfield
Cir!) Nevertheless,
I will continue putting my best effort into the project, and
hopefully someone will
take over when we leave.
Ken
|
Ken,
We are a?board with members. We were formed to represent the will of the property owners in regards to the "Roads".? During the last meeting, it was decided that site #1 (the best site) would be investigated until it had been determined it was unusable. I do not understand why you consider this site a "long shot", ?and I respectfully disagree!? it appears to me that you are following your own agenda.? ?I will openly admit that I am troubled by some of your?actions.? We just received a statement from the attorney for $200 for just talking to you the first time. I expect we will receive another bill for the letter of intent you requested him write to the Ellers and School Board without first discussing this with the board. FYI, I sent an email to the attorney instructing that any requests of any kind regarding legal matters will come from the Board,?not any single individual.?? In regards to your meeting with the VDO?President Lynn, I had a meeting with Ross Miller, the former President of FRMID?and discussed the agreement with VDO that you mentioned in a previous email, that we possibly overlooked. Since we were both present during the paving of Fairfield, neither of us were aware of any such agreement to pave the unused chained off exit from Palisades. Again I ask, did you see any such agreement in writing?? ?Hopefully you did not commit the district to fulfill such a request without discussing and presenting facts to the board. Why may I ask are you so focused with whether there is or is not an easement bordering the school property for Site#1?? We have never approached the school board and asked them to consider allowing us to place mail boxes on a small portion of their property prior to now. If we obtain permission, and I have confidence that we will, we do not need to pursue?any other actions. In my experience the school board will need to see drawings showing exact dimensions of the area we are requesting to use. Do we have the exact dimensions or requirements signed off by the Postmaster?? On a personal note, I feel the need to remind you that this is Cochise County, Arizona and we are currently in the middle of an inflated economy. Everyone that has anything to do with home services, home improvement, construction or land development etc. (which includes our surveyor) are extremely busy. There are shortages on products and materials as well as prices escalating at unimaginal rates. ? I spoke to the?surveyor yesterday, he apologized and said he will do the best he can considering his current?backlog of work. He is unable to predict just when he will be able to get out to Fairfield but hopes it might be within the next two weeks. When he is able to survey our District for the 4th time, rest assured that he will have all the current legal documents to go on. I am curious as to why you?feel the need to speak to him personally, and would like to know your intentions prior to his arrival, especially if it concerns the district. In closing, I want to make it known that I personally have not chimed in on your continuous emails for a reason.? As the Board President, I would like to remain politically correct and feel it's better that I say nothing than to add my personal input which might be considered rather negative. Your personal timeline doesn't matter as much as doing the right thing concerning the District does.? It is apparent?that you disagree with the way the district is being managed, then I suggest you plan to?attend the last meeting of the year and elect a new board.?
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I’ve been working on finding a site for the
mailboxes since
the Board Meeting last September.?
On
September 17, 2020, I sent the Chair of the 3 Canyons Master
Design Committee a
“heads-up” email about our plans to install mailboxes. There was
little
progress in the fall because I was waiting for a Board meeting to
be called to
discuss the mailboxes. The meeting in March was the first since
September.
I must admit that I’m a little frustrated with
the slow pace
of progress, especially the past few months. Frankly, I feel it
has been me,
who has wanted to explore all the potential sites simultaneously,
against the
Road District that focused solely on site #1 east, which I’ve
always thought was
a very long shot.
Why is the Road District so set on site #1
east? This is
what Jimmy said in his email of March 21.
“We think #1 is the best option for these
reasons.
1. The mailboxes would be located on the east side of the road
which is
convenient.?
2. The pull out is on private property. If we lose access to the
pull out,
where will we park?”?
That’s it. Why have the other potential sites,
#3 west and #1
west, been ignored?
As I’ve said numerous times, I have no favorite
site. I
just want to have mailboxes. At least three factors need to be
considered in
evaluating potential sites: legality, spaciousness, and
convenience, with legality
by far the most important. ?Legality
involves contacting the property owners and spaciousness involves
knowing the
location of the property line.
They surveyors were originally scheduled to
come out in
early February, but they haven’t been here yet. They haven’t been
given the
priority that they deserve. We don’t need much information. Only
the location
of the property line at site #1 west and site #3 west.
I request authorization from Jim to contact
the surveyors
ASAP and to meet with them when they are here.
We also need to contact the property owners of
site #3
west.?
I request authorization from Jim to contact
the property
owners of site #3 west. I believe that he has their contact
information.
Unfortunately, we’re not going to make my goal
of having mailboxes
installed before Sharon and I leave for the summer at the end of
May. (I didn’t
expect it to take eight months just to find a site along Fairfield
Cir!) Nevertheless,
I will continue putting my best effort into the project, and
hopefully someone will
take over when we leave.
Ken
|
Jim,
Thank you for your comments. I understand
that as President,
you want to withhold comments on many of my emails. And I
understand that I do
send a lot of emails, but frankly, sometimes a wheel needs to be
squeaky to get
any action.
Below I address your specific questions and
comment that are
in quotes.
“During the last meeting, it was decided that
site #1 (the
best site) would be investigated until it had been determined it
was unusable.”?
I don’t recall a decision at the meeting that
site #1 was the
best site. Nor did Jimmy mention that decision in his email a
week after the
meeting when he listed the two reasons that he and you thought
site #1 was the
best option.
“We just received a statement from the
attorney for $200 for
just talking to you the first time. I expect we will receive
another bill for
the letter of intent you requested him write to the Ellers and
School Board
without first discussing this with the board.”
I don’t recall requesting him to write the
letter. I was
certainly in favor of him doing it and he may have written them
in anticipation
that they would be sent. But I don’t want to quibble. I will
contact his office
tomorrow and pay the bill myself.
“In regards to your meeting with the
VDO?President Lynn…….
Again, I ask, did you see any such agreement in writing?”
Yes and a copy is attached. See page 4, third
bullet point. ??
“Why may I ask are you so focused with
whether there is or
is not an easement bordering the school property for Site#1?”
As I’ve said ad nauseam, there are big
differences in what
rights we have in an easement (some rights) as opposed to
private property beyond
the easement (no rights.) I was focused on the easement because
Jimmy said our
request was to install the mailboxes in the easement that
doesn’t exist. Our request
should be clear that the boxes need to be installed on the
private property,
not on the easement.
“Do we have the exact dimensions or
requirements signed off
by the Postmaster?”
I’ve never seen a requirement for exact
dimensions for
parking, and just from looking at cluster mailbox installations,
I doubt there
are any. Obviously, the site must be large enough to be safe. I
think the site
should be large enough to make U-turns on to the road, and
parking space for
two or three cars. My guess is about 30’x50’, but the Board and
all interested
residents should decide.
“When he is able to survey our District for
the 4th time,
rest assured that he will have all the current legal documents
to go on. I am
curious as to why you?feel the need to speak to him personally,
and would
like to know your intentions prior to his arrival, especially if
it concerns
the district.”
We don’t need to have the district survey for
the 4th
time! Maybe that’s what causing the delay. I only want to speak
to him
personally because they may have maps that show the location of
the property
line. Then we won’t need them to come out at all and save some
money. My
questions are extremely simple. Where is the property line in
two small areas?
“Your personal timeline doesn't matter as
much as doing the
right thing concerning the District does.”
I completely agree, but taking more than
eight months from
last September to simply site the mailboxes?does seems
unnecessarily long
too me.
In closing, Jim, I think you have the
personality for a
great President, and I greatly appreciate your reviving the Road
District. I do
believe that we need financial transparently, and I haven’t seen
that since
September when I joined the Board. I would like to see a
financial report, have
an outside audit of the books, and know how my tax dollars are
going to be
spent. Those are pretty normal expectations for an organization
like this. If
that information is available at the last meeting of the year,
then I would
like the privilege of nominating you for President again, I’ll
vote for you
with both hands, and I’ll buy you a bottle or two of your
favorite drink. You
will deserve it! Let’s work together.
Best wishes,
Ken
On 4/15/2021 2:12 PM, Jim Ruby wrote:
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Ken,
We are a?board with
members. We were formed to represent the will of the
property owners in regards to the "Roads".? During the
last meeting, it was decided that site #1 (the best site)
would be investigated until it had been determined it was
unusable. I do not understand why you consider this site a
"long shot", ?and I respectfully disagree!? it appears to
me that you are following your own agenda.? ?I will openly
admit that I am troubled by some of your?actions.? We just
received a statement from the attorney for $200 for just
talking to you the first time. I expect we will receive
another bill for the letter of intent you requested him
write to the Ellers and School Board without first
discussing this with the board. FYI, I sent an email to
the attorney instructing that any requests of any kind
regarding legal matters will come from the Board,?not any
single individual.??
In regards to your
meeting with the VDO?President Lynn, I had a meeting with
Ross Miller, the former President of FRMID?and discussed
the agreement with VDO that you mentioned in a previous
email, that we possibly overlooked. Since we were both
present during the paving of Fairfield, neither of us were
aware of any such agreement to pave the unused chained off
exit from Palisades. Again I ask, did you see any such
agreement in writing?? ?Hopefully you did not commit the
district to fulfill such a request without discussing and
presenting facts to the board.
Why may I ask are
you so focused with whether there is or is not an easement
bordering the school property for Site#1?? We have never
approached the school board and asked them to consider
allowing us to place mail boxes on a small portion of
their property prior to now. If we obtain permission, and
I have confidence that we will, we do not need to
pursue?any other actions. In my experience the school
board will need to see drawings showing exact dimensions
of the area we are requesting to use. Do we have the exact
dimensions or requirements signed off by the Postmaster??
On a personal note,
I feel the need to remind you that this is Cochise County,
Arizona and we are currently in the middle of an inflated
economy. Everyone that has anything to do with home
services, home improvement, construction or land
development etc. (which includes our surveyor) are
extremely busy. There are shortages on products and
materials as well as prices escalating at unimaginal
rates. ?
I spoke to
the?surveyor yesterday, he apologized and said he will do
the best he can considering his current?backlog of work.
He is unable to predict just when he will be able to get
out to Fairfield but hopes it might be within the next two
weeks. When he is able to survey our District for the 4th
time, rest assured that he will have all the current legal
documents to go on. I am curious as to why you?feel the
need to speak to him personally, and would like to know
your intentions prior to his arrival, especially if it
concerns the district.
In closing, I want
to make it known that I personally have not chimed in on
your continuous emails for a reason.? As the Board
President, I would like to remain politically correct and
feel it's better that I say nothing than to add my
personal input which might be considered rather negative.
Your personal
timeline doesn't matter as much as doing the right thing
concerning the District does.?
It is apparent?that
you disagree with the way the district is being managed,
then I suggest you plan to?attend the last meeting of the
year and elect a new board.?
I’ve been working on finding a site
for the mailboxes since the Board Meeting last
September.? On September 17, 2020, I
sent the Chair of the 3 Canyons Master Design
Committee a “heads-up” email about our plans to
install mailboxes. There was little progress in the
fall because I was waiting for a Board meeting to be
called to discuss the mailboxes. The meeting in March
was the first since September.
I must admit that I’m a little
frustrated with the slow pace of progress, especially
the past few months. Frankly, I feel it has been me,
who has wanted to explore all the potential sites
simultaneously, against the Road District that focused
solely on site #1 east, which I’ve always thought was
a very long shot.
Why is the Road District so set on
site #1 east? This is what Jimmy said in his email of
March 21.
“We think #1 is the best option for
these reasons.
1. The mailboxes would be located on the east side of
the road which is convenient.?
2. The pull out is on private property. If we lose
access to the pull out, where will we park?”?
That’s it. Why have the other
potential sites, #3 west and #1 west, been ignored?
As I’ve said numerous times, I have
no favorite site. I just want to have mailboxes. At
least three factors need to be considered in
evaluating potential sites: legality, spaciousness,
and convenience, with legality by far the most
important. ?Legality involves contacting
the property owners and spaciousness involves knowing
the location of the property line.
They surveyors were originally
scheduled to come out in early February, but they
haven’t been here yet. They haven’t been given the
priority that they deserve. We don’t need much
information. Only the location of the property line at
site #1 west and site #3 west.
I request authorization from Jim
to contact the surveyors ASAP and to meet with them
when they are here.
We also need to contact the
property owners of site #3 west.?
I request authorization from Jim
to contact the property owners of site #3 west. I
believe that he has their contact information.
Unfortunately, we’re not going to
make my goal of having mailboxes installed before
Sharon and I leave for the summer at the end of May.
(I didn’t expect it to take eight months just to find
a site along Fairfield Cir!) Nevertheless, I will
continue putting my best effort into the project, and
hopefully someone will take over when we leave.
Ken
|
Ken, the financial records are available for everyone to see. The Board sets the budget, the county approves it, and issues a check book, that they refer to as warrants, that require two signatures, and they keep the records. We have never written more than 5 checks maybe 6 in the past several years. Paying for things like property taxes, mail box rent, and liability insurance.? Our problem with the county in obtaining monthly statements has been their attempt to automate the system and having us go on line to view them. I liked it better when they just mailed it! We have more work to do in regards to the county and how they do collections, that will be a topic for the budget meeting for FY 21/22. Do not pay the attorney it has already been arranged and he should have the check by now. I did see the letter he had drafted to the school board at your request. That prompted me to comment that we shouldn’t pay the attorney for ?things we can do ourselves! In some cases the squeaky wheel does get the grease, in other cases, it’s an annoyance and you just get a new wheel.? Thank you for your support to stay on as president, but truthfully I really don’t want the job. I only stayed on this past year because I was asked to due so, because of my longevity and experience. I made it my mission to protect the District from the first President continually committing us to projects that had nothing to do with Fairfield Roads. He was such an analytical type, and spent our money like it was his own.? I’m glad you have the VDO agreement in writing, I can’t wait to read it as check the signatures. I guess it’s a good thing you discovered it, other wise we would never have the opportunity to fulfill the obligation. ?A 30x50 area for mailboxes in my estimation may not be realistic but that too will be a topic at the next meeting. ?I still believe the PSB will be respective to us using a small area considering ?our district is so small and only grown by two houses in the past 5 or more years.? Working together is a must, we all have an investment in this goal. You attract more flys with honey than salt. We need to sell this in order to make it happen. Jimmy made a good solid contact.... now let him work on achieving the goal....Please?
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On Apr 15, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Ken Cameron via groups.io <rocks@...> wrote:
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Jim,
Thank you for your comments. I understand
that as President,
you want to withhold comments on many of my emails. And I
understand that I do
send a lot of emails, but frankly, sometimes a wheel needs to be
squeaky to get
any action.
Below I address your specific questions and
comment that are
in quotes.
“During the last meeting, it was decided that
site #1 (the
best site) would be investigated until it had been determined it
was unusable.”?
I don’t recall a decision at the meeting that
site #1 was the
best site. Nor did Jimmy mention that decision in his email a
week after the
meeting when he listed the two reasons that he and you thought
site #1 was the
best option.
“We just received a statement from the
attorney for $200 for
just talking to you the first time. I expect we will receive
another bill for
the letter of intent you requested him write to the Ellers and
School Board
without first discussing this with the board.”
I don’t recall requesting him to write the
letter. I was
certainly in favor of him doing it and he may have written them
in anticipation
that they would be sent. But I don’t want to quibble. I will
contact his office
tomorrow and pay the bill myself.
“In regards to your meeting with the
VDO?President Lynn…….
Again, I ask, did you see any such agreement in writing?”
Yes and a copy is attached. See page 4, third
bullet point. ??
“Why may I ask are you so focused with
whether there is or
is not an easement bordering the school property for Site#1?”
As I’ve said ad nauseam, there are big
differences in what
rights we have in an easement (some rights) as opposed to
private property beyond
the easement (no rights.) I was focused on the easement because
Jimmy said our
request was to install the mailboxes in the easement that
doesn’t exist. Our request
should be clear that the boxes need to be installed on the
private property,
not on the easement.
“Do we have the exact dimensions or
requirements signed off
by the Postmaster?”
I’ve never seen a requirement for exact
dimensions for
parking, and just from looking at cluster mailbox installations,
I doubt there
are any. Obviously, the site must be large enough to be safe. I
think the site
should be large enough to make U-turns on to the road, and
parking space for
two or three cars. My guess is about 30’x50’, but the Board and
all interested
residents should decide.
“When he is able to survey our District for
the 4th time,
rest assured that he will have all the current legal documents
to go on. I am
curious as to why you?feel the need to speak to him personally,
and would
like to know your intentions prior to his arrival, especially if
it concerns
the district.”
We don’t need to have the district survey for
the 4th
time! Maybe that’s what causing the delay. I only want to speak
to him
personally because they may have maps that show the location of
the property
line. Then we won’t need them to come out at all and save some
money. My
questions are extremely simple. Where is the property line in
two small areas?
“Your personal timeline doesn't matter as
much as doing the
right thing concerning the District does.”
I completely agree, but taking more than
eight months from
last September to simply site the mailboxes?does seems
unnecessarily long
too me.
In closing, Jim, I think you have the
personality for a
great President, and I greatly appreciate your reviving the Road
District. I do
believe that we need financial transparently, and I haven’t seen
that since
September when I joined the Board. I would like to see a
financial report, have
an outside audit of the books, and know how my tax dollars are
going to be
spent. Those are pretty normal expectations for an organization
like this. If
that information is available at the last meeting of the year,
then I would
like the privilege of nominating you for President again, I’ll
vote for you
with both hands, and I’ll buy you a bottle or two of your
favorite drink. You
will deserve it! Let’s work together.
Best wishes,
Ken
On 4/15/2021 2:12 PM, Jim Ruby wrote:
Ken,
We are a?board with
members. We were formed to represent the will of the
property owners in regards to the "Roads".? During the
last meeting, it was decided that site #1 (the best site)
would be investigated until it had been determined it was
unusable. I do not understand why you consider this site a
"long shot", ?and I respectfully disagree!? it appears to
me that you are following your own agenda.? ?I will openly
admit that I am troubled by some of your?actions.? We just
received a statement from the attorney for $200 for just
talking to you the first time. I expect we will receive
another bill for the letter of intent you requested him
write to the Ellers and School Board without first
discussing this with the board. FYI, I sent an email to
the attorney instructing that any requests of any kind
regarding legal matters will come from the Board,?not any
single individual.??
In regards to your
meeting with the VDO?President Lynn, I had a meeting with
Ross Miller, the former President of FRMID?and discussed
the agreement with VDO that you mentioned in a previous
email, that we possibly overlooked. Since we were both
present during the paving of Fairfield, neither of us were
aware of any such agreement to pave the unused chained off
exit from Palisades. Again I ask, did you see any such
agreement in writing?? ?Hopefully you did not commit the
district to fulfill such a request without discussing and
presenting facts to the board.
Why may I ask are
you so focused with whether there is or is not an easement
bordering the school property for Site#1?? We have never
approached the school board and asked them to consider
allowing us to place mail boxes on a small portion of
their property prior to now. If we obtain permission, and
I have confidence that we will, we do not need to
pursue?any other actions. In my experience the school
board will need to see drawings showing exact dimensions
of the area we are requesting to use. Do we have the exact
dimensions or requirements signed off by the Postmaster??
On a personal note,
I feel the need to remind you that this is Cochise County,
Arizona and we are currently in the middle of an inflated
economy. Everyone that has anything to do with home
services, home improvement, construction or land
development etc. (which includes our surveyor) are
extremely busy. There are shortages on products and
materials as well as prices escalating at unimaginal
rates. ?
I spoke to
the?surveyor yesterday, he apologized and said he will do
the best he can considering his current?backlog of work.
He is unable to predict just when he will be able to get
out to Fairfield but hopes it might be within the next two
weeks. When he is able to survey our District for the 4th
time, rest assured that he will have all the current legal
documents to go on. I am curious as to why you?feel the
need to speak to him personally, and would like to know
your intentions prior to his arrival, especially if it
concerns the district.
In closing, I want
to make it known that I personally have not chimed in on
your continuous emails for a reason.? As the Board
President, I would like to remain politically correct and
feel it's better that I say nothing than to add my
personal input which might be considered rather negative.
Your personal
timeline doesn't matter as much as doing the right thing
concerning the District does.?
It is apparent?that
you disagree with the way the district is being managed,
then I suggest you plan to?attend the last meeting of the
year and elect a new board.?
I’ve been working on finding a site
for the mailboxes since the Board Meeting last
September.? On September 17, 2020, I
sent the Chair of the 3 Canyons Master Design
Committee a “heads-up” email about our plans to
install mailboxes. There was little progress in the
fall because I was waiting for a Board meeting to be
called to discuss the mailboxes. The meeting in March
was the first since September.
I must admit that I’m a little
frustrated with the slow pace of progress, especially
the past few months. Frankly, I feel it has been me,
who has wanted to explore all the potential sites
simultaneously, against the Road District that focused
solely on site #1 east, which I’ve always thought was
a very long shot.
Why is the Road District so set on
site #1 east? This is what Jimmy said in his email of
March 21.
“We think #1 is the best option for
these reasons.
1. The mailboxes would be located on the east side of
the road which is convenient.?
2. The pull out is on private property. If we lose
access to the pull out, where will we park?”?
That’s it. Why have the other
potential sites, #3 west and #1 west, been ignored?
As I’ve said numerous times, I have
no favorite site. I just want to have mailboxes. At
least three factors need to be considered in
evaluating potential sites: legality, spaciousness,
and convenience, with legality by far the most
important. ?Legality involves contacting
the property owners and spaciousness involves knowing
the location of the property line.
They surveyors were originally
scheduled to come out in early February, but they
haven’t been here yet. They haven’t been given the
priority that they deserve. We don’t need much
information. Only the location of the property line at
site #1 west and site #3 west.
I request authorization from Jim
to contact the surveyors ASAP and to meet with them
when they are here.
We also need to contact the
property owners of site #3 west.?
I request authorization from Jim
to contact the property owners of site #3 west. I
believe that he has their contact information.
Unfortunately, we’re not going to
make my goal of having mailboxes installed before
Sharon and I leave for the summer at the end of May.
(I didn’t expect it to take eight months just to find
a site along Fairfield Cir!) Nevertheless, I will
continue putting my best effort into the project, and
hopefully someone will take over when we leave.
Ken
<2011-01-20 Deed (VDO to Fairfield).pdf>
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Jim, ?
I was going to wait a few more weeks before sending a follow-up email. However, in light of recent emails I figured now is a good time to resurrect my request submitted about three weeks ago.?Can the board
please address the following:?
- Send out a copy of the bylaws and/or governing documents for the Fairfield Estates RMID.?
- Send out a financial report documenting the past few years of financial transactions. I would assume this will include the current balance of the account. ?
- Send out a list of projects completed over the past few years and a list of planned/future projects that determined the 2019 tax rate of 3.8029 and the 2020 tax
rate of 4.247. Honestly, this is my biggest ?concern. Based on my?research, we have some of the highest tax rate in the entire county. In most cases by 3 to 4% higher and nobody can tell us what projects are planned that determined the high tax rates.
Are we as a community expected to continue to pay such high rates with no projected projects/transparency? Where are our tax dollars going??
- Does the board know the tax rate for 2021?
- During the last board meeting, a concern was addressed that property owners with unapproved lots were not paying their share of the taxes while still benefiting.
We were told by the board that initially each property owner paid an equal share vs a percentage based on property value. An action was taken for the board to question the county on why the tax process had changed and to determine if we could go back to the
way it was. Has this action been resolved? If so what is the outcome?
Thanks for your time.?
v/r
Kevin Fitzpatrick?
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On Apr 15, 2021, at 9:19 PM, Jim Ruby <jeruby@...> wrote:
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Ken, the financial records are available for everyone to see. The Board sets the budget, the county approves it, and issues a check book, that they refer to as warrants, that require two signatures, and they keep the records. We have never written
more than 5 checks maybe 6 in the past several years. Paying for things like property taxes, mail box rent, and liability insurance.?
Our problem with the county in obtaining monthly statements has been their attempt to automate the system and having us go on line to view them. I liked it better when they just mailed it!
We have more work to do in regards to the county and how they do collections, that will be a topic for the budget meeting for FY 21/22.
Do not pay the attorney it has already been arranged and he should have the check by now. I did see the letter he had drafted to the school board at your request. That prompted me to comment that we shouldn’t pay the attorney for ?things we can do ourselves!
In some cases the squeaky wheel does get the grease, in other cases, it’s an annoyance and you just get a new wheel.?
Thank you for your support to stay on as president, but truthfully I really don’t want the job. I only stayed on this past year because I was asked to due so, because of my longevity and experience. I made it my mission to protect the District from the
first President continually committing us to projects that had nothing to do with Fairfield Roads. He was such an analytical type, and spent our money like it was his own.?
I’m glad you have the VDO agreement in writing, I can’t wait to read it as check the signatures. I guess it’s a good thing you discovered it, other wise we would never have the opportunity to fulfill the obligation.
?A 30x50 area for mailboxes in my estimation may not be realistic but that too will be a topic at the next meeting. ?I still believe the PSB will be respective to us using a small area considering ?our district is so small and only grown by two houses
in the past 5 or more years.?
Working together is a must, we all have an investment in this goal. You attract more flys with honey than salt. We need to sell this in order to make it happen. Jimmy made a good solid contact.... now let him work on achieving the goal....Please?
Jim
On Apr 15, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Ken Cameron via groups.io <rocks@...> wrote:
?
Jim,
Thank you for your comments. I understand that as President, you want to withhold comments on many of my emails. And I understand that I do send a lot of emails, but frankly, sometimes a wheel needs to be squeaky to get any action.
Below I address your specific questions and comment that are in quotes.
“During the last meeting, it was decided that site #1 (the best site) would be investigated until it had been determined it was unusable.”?
I don’t recall a decision at the meeting that site #1 was the best site. Nor did Jimmy mention that decision in his email a week after the meeting when he listed the two reasons that he and you thought site #1 was the best option.
“We just received a statement from the attorney for $200 for just talking to you the first time. I expect we will receive another bill for the letter of intent you requested him write to the Ellers and School Board without first discussing
this with the board.”
I don’t recall requesting him to write the letter. I was certainly in favor of him doing it and he may have written them in anticipation that they would be sent. But I don’t want to quibble. I will contact his office tomorrow and pay the
bill myself.
“In regards to your meeting with the VDO?President Lynn……. Again, I ask, did you see any such agreement in writing?”
Yes and a copy is attached. See page 4, third bullet point.
??
“Why may I ask are you so focused with whether there is or is not an easement bordering the school property for Site#1?”
As I’ve said ad nauseam, there are big differences in what rights we have in an easement (some rights) as opposed to private property beyond the easement (no rights.) I was focused on the easement because Jimmy said our request was to install
the mailboxes in the easement that doesn’t exist. Our request should be clear that the boxes need to be installed on the private property, not on the easement.
“Do we have the exact dimensions or requirements signed off by the Postmaster?”
I’ve never seen a requirement for exact dimensions for parking, and just from looking at cluster mailbox installations, I doubt there are any. Obviously, the site must be large enough to be safe. I think the site should be large enough
to make U-turns on to the road, and parking space for two or three cars. My guess is about 30’x50’, but the Board and all interested residents should decide.
“When he is able to survey our District for the 4th time, rest assured that he will have all the current legal documents to go on. I am curious as to why you?feel the need to speak to him personally, and would like to know your intentions
prior to his arrival, especially if it concerns the district.”
We don’t need to have the district survey for the 4th time! Maybe that’s what causing the delay. I only want to speak to him personally because they may have maps that show the location of the property line. Then we won’t need
them to come out at all and save some money. My questions are extremely simple. Where is the property line in two small areas?
“Your personal timeline doesn't matter as much as doing the right thing concerning the District does.”
I completely agree, but taking more than eight months from last September to simply site the mailboxes?does seems unnecessarily long too me.
In closing, Jim, I think you have the personality for a great President, and I greatly appreciate your reviving the Road District. I do believe that we need financial transparently, and I haven’t seen that since September when I joined
the Board. I would like to see a financial report, have an outside audit of the books, and know how my tax dollars are going to be spent. Those are pretty normal expectations for an organization like this. If that information is available at the last meeting
of the year, then I would like the privilege of nominating you for President again, I’ll vote for you with both hands, and I’ll buy you a bottle or two of your favorite drink. You will deserve it! Let’s work together.
Best wishes,
Ken
On 4/15/2021 2:12 PM, Jim Ruby wrote:
Ken,
We are a?board with members. We were formed to represent the will of the property owners in regards to the "Roads".? During the last meeting, it was decided that site #1 (the best site) would
be investigated until it had been determined it was unusable. I do not understand why you consider this site a "long shot", ?and I respectfully disagree!? it appears to me that you are following your own agenda.? ?I will openly admit that I am troubled by
some of your?actions.? We just received a statement from the attorney for $200 for just talking to you the first time. I expect we will receive another bill for the letter of intent you requested him write to the Ellers and School Board without first discussing
this with the board. FYI, I sent an email to the attorney instructing that any requests of any kind regarding legal matters will come from the Board,?not any single individual.??
In regards to your meeting with the VDO?President Lynn, I had a meeting with Ross Miller, the former President of FRMID?and discussed the agreement with VDO that you mentioned in a previous email,
that we possibly overlooked. Since we were both present during the paving of Fairfield, neither of us were aware of any such agreement to pave the unused chained off exit from Palisades. Again I ask, did you see any such agreement in writing?? ?Hopefully you
did not commit the district to fulfill such a request without discussing and presenting facts to the board.
Why may I ask are you so focused with whether there is or is not an easement bordering the school property for Site#1?? We have never approached the school board and asked them to consider allowing
us to place mail boxes on a small portion of their property prior to now. If we obtain permission, and I have confidence that we will, we do not need to pursue?any other actions. In my experience the school board will need to see drawings showing exact dimensions
of the area we are requesting to use. Do we have the exact dimensions or requirements signed off by the Postmaster??
On a personal note, I feel the need to remind you that this is Cochise County, Arizona and we are currently in the middle of an inflated economy. Everyone that has anything to do with home services,
home improvement, construction or land development etc. (which includes our surveyor) are extremely busy. There are shortages on products and materials as well as prices escalating at unimaginal rates. ?
I spoke to the?surveyor yesterday, he apologized and said he will do the best he can considering his current?backlog of work. He is unable to predict just when he will be able to get out to Fairfield
but hopes it might be within the next two weeks. When he is able to survey our District for the 4th time, rest assured that he will have all the current legal documents to go on. I am curious as to why you?feel the need to speak to him personally, and would
like to know your intentions prior to his arrival, especially if it concerns the district.
In closing, I want to make it known that I personally have not chimed in on your continuous emails for a reason.? As the Board President, I would like to remain politically correct and feel it's
better that I say nothing than to add my personal input which might be considered rather negative.
Your personal timeline doesn't matter as much as doing the right thing concerning the District does.?
It is apparent?that you disagree with the way the district is being managed, then I suggest you plan to?attend the last meeting of the year and elect a new board.?
I’ve been working on finding a site for the mailboxes since the Board Meeting last September.?
On September 17, 2020, I sent the Chair of the 3 Canyons Master Design Committee a “heads-up” email about our plans to install mailboxes. There was little progress in the fall because I was waiting for a Board meeting to be called to discuss the mailboxes.
The meeting in March was the first since September.
I must admit that I’m a little frustrated with the slow pace of progress, especially the past few months. Frankly, I feel it has been me, who has wanted to explore all the potential sites simultaneously, against the Road District that focused
solely on site #1 east, which I’ve always thought was a very long shot.
Why is the Road District so set on site #1 east? This is what Jimmy said in his email of March 21.
“We think #1 is the best option for these reasons.
1. The mailboxes would be located on the east side of the road which is convenient.?
2. The pull out is on private property. If we lose access to the pull out, where will we park?”?
That’s it. Why have the other potential sites, #3 west and #1 west, been ignored?
As I’ve said numerous times, I have no favorite site. I just want to have mailboxes. At least three factors need to be considered in evaluating potential sites: legality, spaciousness, and convenience, with legality by far the most important.
?Legality involves contacting the property owners and spaciousness involves knowing the location of the property line.
They surveyors were originally scheduled to come out in early February, but they haven’t been here yet. They haven’t been given the priority that they deserve. We don’t need much information. Only the location of the property line at site
#1 west and site #3 west.
I request authorization from Jim to contact the surveyors ASAP and to meet with them when they are here.
We also need to contact the property owners of site #3 west.?
I request authorization from Jim to contact the property owners of site #3 west. I believe that he has their contact information.
Unfortunately, we’re not going to make my goal of having mailboxes installed before Sharon and I leave for the summer at the end of May. (I didn’t expect it to take eight months just to find a site along Fairfield Cir!) Nevertheless, I
will continue putting my best effort into the project, and hopefully someone will take over when we leave.
Ken
<2011-01-20 Deed (VDO to Fairfield).pdf>
|
Thanks Jim,
We're getting close to being on the
same page. But where are the the financial records that are
available for everyone to see? You are absolutely right, squeakily
wheels can be a huge annoyance!
I think it's very clear that everyone
in Fairfield Estates would prefer having cluster mailboxes as
opposed to going to the post office. That's a major point. I can
not imagine how the Road District was ever established since it
has been such a ordeal just to find a site for mailboxes. But the
Road District is a major asset to our community and property
value.? Let's all work together it improve the Fairfield Estates.?
Best wishes,
Ken
On 4/15/2021 9:19 PM, Jim Ruby wrote:
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Ken, the financial records are available for everyone to see.
The Board sets the budget, the county approves it, and issues a
check book, that they refer to as warrants, that require two
signatures, and they keep the records. We have never written
more than 5 checks maybe 6 in the past several years. Paying for
things like property taxes, mail box rent, and liability
insurance.?
Our problem with the county in obtaining monthly
statements has been their attempt to automate the system and
having us go on line to view them. I liked it better when they
just mailed it!
We have more work to do in regards to the county
and how they do collections, that will be a topic for the budget
meeting for FY 21/22.
Do not pay the attorney it has already been arranged and he
should have the check by now. I did see the letter he had
drafted to the school board at your request. That prompted me
to comment that we shouldn’t pay the attorney for ?things we
can do ourselves!
In some cases the squeaky wheel does get the grease, in
other cases, it’s an annoyance and you just get a new wheel.?
Thank you for your support to stay on as president, but
truthfully I really don’t want the job. I only stayed on this
past year because I was asked to due so, because of my
longevity and experience. I made it my mission to protect the
District from the first President continually committing us to
projects that had nothing to do with Fairfield Roads. He was
such an analytical type, and spent our money like it was his
own.?
I’m glad you have the VDO agreement in writing, I can’t
wait to read it as check the signatures. I guess it’s a good
thing you discovered it, other wise we would never have the
opportunity to fulfill the obligation.
?A 30x50 area for mailboxes in my estimation may not be
realistic but that too will be a topic at the next meeting. ?I
still believe the PSB will be respective to us using a small
area considering ?our district is so small and only grown by
two houses in the past 5 or more years.?
Working together is a must, we all have an investment
in this goal. You attract more flys with honey than salt.
We need to sell this in order to make it happen. Jimmy
made a good solid contact.... now let him work on
achieving the goal....Please?
Jim
On Apr 15, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Ken
Cameron via groups.io <rocks@...>
wrote:
?
Jim,
Thank you for your comments. I
understand that as President, you want to withhold
comments on many of my emails. And I understand
that I do send a lot of emails, but frankly,
sometimes a wheel needs to be squeaky to get any
action.
Below I address your specific
questions and comment that are in quotes.
“During the last meeting, it
was decided that site #1 (the best site) would be
investigated until it had been determined it was
unusable.”?
I don’t recall a decision at
the meeting that site #1 was the best site. Nor
did Jimmy mention that decision in his email a
week after the meeting when he listed the two
reasons that he and you thought site #1 was the
best option.
“We just received a statement
from the attorney for $200 for just talking to you
the first time. I expect we will receive another
bill for the letter of intent you requested him
write to the Ellers and School Board without first
discussing this with the board.”
I don’t recall requesting him
to write the letter. I was certainly in favor of
him doing it and he may have written them in
anticipation that they would be sent. But I don’t
want to quibble. I will contact his office
tomorrow and pay the bill myself.
“In regards to your meeting
with the VDO?President Lynn……. Again, I ask, did
you see any such agreement in writing?”
Yes and a copy is attached. See
page 4, third bullet point. ??
“Why may I ask are you so
focused with whether there is or is not an
easement bordering the school property for
Site#1?”
As I’ve said ad nauseam, there
are big differences in what rights we have in an
easement (some rights) as opposed to private
property beyond the easement (no rights.) I was
focused on the easement because Jimmy said our
request was to install the mailboxes in the
easement that doesn’t exist. Our request should be
clear that the boxes need to be installed on the
private property, not on the easement.
“Do we have the exact
dimensions or requirements signed off by the
Postmaster?”
I’ve never seen a requirement
for exact dimensions for parking, and just from
looking at cluster mailbox installations, I doubt
there are any. Obviously, the site must be large
enough to be safe. I think the site should be
large enough to make U-turns on to the road, and
parking space for two or three cars. My guess is
about 30’x50’, but the Board and all interested
residents should decide.
“When he is able to survey our
District for the 4th time, rest assured that he
will have all the current legal documents to go
on. I am curious as to why you?feel the need to
speak to him personally, and would like to know
your intentions prior to his arrival, especially
if it concerns the district.”
We don’t need to have the
district survey for the 4th time! Maybe
that’s what causing the delay. I only want to
speak to him personally because they may have maps
that show the location of the property line. Then
we won’t need them to come out at all and save
some money. My questions are extremely simple.
Where is the property line in two small areas?
“Your personal timeline doesn't
matter as much as doing the right thing concerning
the District does.”
I completely agree, but taking
more than eight months from last September to
simply site the mailboxes?does seems unnecessarily
long too me.
In closing, Jim, I think you
have the personality for a great President, and I
greatly appreciate your reviving the Road
District. I do believe that we need financial
transparently, and I haven’t seen that since
September when I joined the Board. I would like to
see a financial report, have an outside audit of
the books, and know how my tax dollars are going
to be spent. Those are pretty normal expectations
for an organization like this. If that information
is available at the last meeting of the year, then
I would like the privilege of nominating you for
President again, I’ll vote for you with both
hands, and I’ll buy you a bottle or two of your
favorite drink. You will deserve it! Let’s work
together.
Best wishes,
Ken
On 4/15/2021 2:12 PM, Jim
Ruby wrote:
Ken,
We are
a?board with members. We were formed to
represent the will of the property owners in
regards to the "Roads".? During the last
meeting, it was decided that site #1 (the
best site) would be investigated until it
had been determined it was unusable. I do
not understand why you consider this site a
"long shot", ?and I respectfully disagree!?
it appears to me that you are following your
own agenda.? ?I will openly admit that I am
troubled by some of your?actions.? We just
received a statement from the attorney for
$200 for just talking to you the first time.
I expect we will receive another bill for
the letter of intent you requested him write
to the Ellers and School Board without first
discussing this with the board. FYI, I sent
an email to the attorney instructing that
any requests of any kind regarding legal
matters will come from the Board,?not any
single individual.??
In
regards to your meeting with the
VDO?President Lynn, I had a meeting with
Ross Miller, the former President of
FRMID?and discussed the agreement with VDO
that you mentioned in a previous email, that
we possibly overlooked. Since we were both
present during the paving of Fairfield,
neither of us were aware of any such
agreement to pave the unused chained off
exit from Palisades. Again I ask, did you
see any such agreement in writing??
?Hopefully you did not commit the district
to fulfill such a request without discussing
and presenting facts to the board.
Why
may I ask are you so focused with whether
there is or is not an easement bordering the
school property for Site#1?? We have never
approached the school board and asked them
to consider allowing us to place mail boxes
on a small portion of their property prior
to now. If we obtain permission, and I have
confidence that we will, we do not need to
pursue?any other actions. In my experience
the school board will need to see drawings
showing exact dimensions of the area we are
requesting to use. Do we have the exact
dimensions or requirements signed off by the
Postmaster??
On a
personal note, I feel the need to remind you
that this is Cochise County, Arizona and we
are currently in the middle of an inflated
economy. Everyone that has anything to do
with home services, home improvement,
construction or land development etc. (which
includes our surveyor) are extremely busy.
There are shortages on products and
materials as well as prices escalating at
unimaginal rates. ?
I
spoke to the?surveyor yesterday, he
apologized and said he will do the best he
can considering his current?backlog of work.
He is unable to predict just when he will be
able to get out to Fairfield but hopes it
might be within the next two weeks. When he
is able to survey our District for the 4th
time, rest assured that he will have all the
current legal documents to go on. I am
curious as to why you?feel the need to speak
to him personally, and would like to know
your intentions prior to his arrival,
especially if it concerns the district.
In
closing, I want to make it known that I
personally have not chimed in on your
continuous emails for a reason.? As the
Board President, I would like to remain
politically correct and feel it's better
that I say nothing than to add my personal
input which might be considered rather
negative.
Your
personal timeline doesn't matter as much as
doing the right thing concerning the
District does.?
It is
apparent?that you disagree with the way the
district is being managed, then I suggest
you plan to?attend the last meeting of the
year and elect a new board.?
I’ve been working on
finding a site for the mailboxes since
the Board Meeting last September.?
On September 17, 2020, I sent the
Chair of the 3 Canyons Master Design
Committee a “heads-up” email about our
plans to install mailboxes. There was
little progress in the fall because I
was waiting for a Board meeting to be
called to discuss the mailboxes. The
meeting in March was the first since
September.
I must admit that I’m
a little frustrated with the slow pace
of progress, especially the past few
months. Frankly, I feel it has been me,
who has wanted to explore all the
potential sites simultaneously, against
the Road District that focused solely on
site #1 east, which I’ve always thought
was a very long shot.
Why is the Road
District so set on site #1 east? This is
what Jimmy said in his email of March
21.
“We think #1 is the
best option for these reasons.
1. The mailboxes would be located on the
east side of the road which is
convenient.?
2. The pull out is on private property.
If we lose access to the pull out, where
will we park?”?
That’s it. Why have
the other potential sites, #3 west and
#1 west, been ignored?
As I’ve said numerous
times, I have no favorite site. I just
want to have mailboxes. At least three
factors need to be considered in
evaluating potential sites: legality,
spaciousness, and convenience, with
legality by far the most important. ?Legality
involves contacting the property owners
and spaciousness involves knowing the
location of the property line.
They surveyors were
originally scheduled to come out in
early February, but they haven’t been
here yet. They haven’t been given the
priority that they deserve. We don’t
need much information. Only the location
of the property line at site #1 west and
site #3 west.
I request
authorization from Jim to contact the
surveyors ASAP and to meet with them
when they are here.
We also need to
contact the property owners of site #3
west.?
I request
authorization from Jim to contact the
property owners of site #3 west. I
believe that he has their contact
information.
Unfortunately, we’re
not going to make my goal of having
mailboxes installed before Sharon and I
leave for the summer at the end of May.
(I didn’t expect it to take eight months
just to find a site along Fairfield
Cir!) Nevertheless, I will continue
putting my best effort into the project,
and hopefully someone will take over
when we leave.
Ken
<2011-01-20 Deed (VDO to Fairfield).pdf>
|
Oh yes, Are the surveyors coming? out
to survey the district for the 4th time, or just to answer a
couple simple questions?
thanks, Ken
On 4/15/2021 9:46 PM, Ken Cameron via
groups.io wrote:
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Thanks Jim,
We're getting close to being on the
same page. But where are the the financial records that are
available for everyone to see? You are absolutely right,
squeakily wheels can be a huge annoyance!
I think it's very clear that everyone
in Fairfield Estates would prefer having cluster mailboxes as
opposed to going to the post office. That's a major point. I can
not imagine how the Road District was ever established since it
has been such a ordeal just to find a site for mailboxes. But
the Road District is a major asset to our community and property
value.? Let's all work together it improve the Fairfield
Estates.?
Best wishes,
Ken
On 4/15/2021 9:19 PM, Jim Ruby wrote:
Ken, the financial records are available for everyone to see.
The Board sets the budget, the county approves it, and issues
a check book, that they refer to as warrants, that require two
signatures, and they keep the records. We have never written
more than 5 checks maybe 6 in the past several years. Paying
for things like property taxes, mail box rent, and liability
insurance.?
Our problem with the county in obtaining monthly
statements has been their attempt to automate the system and
having us go on line to view them. I liked it better when they
just mailed it!
We have more work to do in regards to the county
and how they do collections, that will be a topic for the
budget meeting for FY 21/22.
Do not pay the attorney it has already been arranged and
he should have the check by now. I did see the letter he had
drafted to the school board at your request. That prompted
me to comment that we shouldn’t pay the attorney for ?things
we can do ourselves!
In some cases the squeaky wheel does get the grease, in
other cases, it’s an annoyance and you just get a new
wheel.?
Thank you for your support to stay on as president, but
truthfully I really don’t want the job. I only stayed on
this past year because I was asked to due so, because of my
longevity and experience. I made it my mission to protect
the District from the first President continually committing
us to projects that had nothing to do with Fairfield Roads.
He was such an analytical type, and spent our money like it
was his own.?
I’m glad you have the VDO agreement in writing, I can’t
wait to read it as check the signatures. I guess it’s a good
thing you discovered it, other wise we would never have the
opportunity to fulfill the obligation.
?A 30x50 area for mailboxes in my estimation may not be
realistic but that too will be a topic at the next meeting.
?I still believe the PSB will be respective to us using a
small area considering ?our district is so small and only
grown by two houses in the past 5 or more years.?
Working together is a must, we all have an investment
in this goal. You attract more flys with honey than
salt. We need to sell this in order to make it happen.
Jimmy made a good solid contact.... now let him work on
achieving the goal....Please?
Jim
On Apr 15, 2021, at 6:42 PM,
Ken Cameron via groups.io <rocks@...>
wrote:
?
Jim,
Thank you for your comments.
I understand that as President, you want to
withhold comments on many of my emails. And I
understand that I do send a lot of emails, but
frankly, sometimes a wheel needs to be squeaky
to get any action.
Below I address your specific
questions and comment that are in quotes.
“During the last meeting, it
was decided that site #1 (the best site) would
be investigated until it had been determined it
was unusable.”?
I don’t recall a decision at
the meeting that site #1 was the best site. Nor
did Jimmy mention that decision in his email a
week after the meeting when he listed the two
reasons that he and you thought site #1 was the
best option.
“We just received a statement
from the attorney for $200 for just talking to
you the first time. I expect we will receive
another bill for the letter of intent you
requested him write to the Ellers and School
Board without first discussing this with the
board.”
I don’t recall requesting him
to write the letter. I was certainly in favor of
him doing it and he may have written them in
anticipation that they would be sent. But I
don’t want to quibble. I will contact his office
tomorrow and pay the bill myself.
“In regards to your meeting
with the VDO?President Lynn……. Again, I ask, did
you see any such agreement in writing?”
Yes and a copy is attached.
See page 4, third bullet point. ??
“Why may I ask are you so
focused with whether there is or is not an
easement bordering the school property for
Site#1?”
As I’ve said ad nauseam,
there are big differences in what rights we have
in an easement (some rights) as opposed to
private property beyond the easement (no
rights.) I was focused on the easement because
Jimmy said our request was to install the
mailboxes in the easement that doesn’t exist.
Our request should be clear that the boxes need
to be installed on the private property, not on
the easement.
“Do we have the exact
dimensions or requirements signed off by the
Postmaster?”
I’ve never seen a requirement
for exact dimensions for parking, and just from
looking at cluster mailbox installations, I
doubt there are any. Obviously, the site must be
large enough to be safe. I think the site should
be large enough to make U-turns on to the road,
and parking space for two or three cars. My
guess is about 30’x50’, but the Board and all
interested residents should decide.
“When he is able to survey
our District for the 4th time, rest assured that
he will have all the current legal documents to
go on. I am curious as to why you?feel the need
to speak to him personally, and would like to
know your intentions prior to his arrival,
especially if it concerns the district.”
We don’t need to have the
district survey for the 4th time!
Maybe that’s what causing the delay. I only want
to speak to him personally because they may have
maps that show the location of the property
line. Then we won’t need them to come out at all
and save some money. My questions are extremely
simple. Where is the property line in two small
areas?
“Your personal timeline
doesn't matter as much as doing the right thing
concerning the District does.”
I completely agree, but
taking more than eight months from last
September to simply site the mailboxes?does
seems unnecessarily long too me.
In closing, Jim, I think you
have the personality for a great President, and
I greatly appreciate your reviving the Road
District. I do believe that we need financial
transparently, and I haven’t seen that since
September when I joined the Board. I would like
to see a financial report, have an outside audit
of the books, and know how my tax dollars are
going to be spent. Those are pretty normal
expectations for an organization like this. If
that information is available at the last
meeting of the year, then I would like the
privilege of nominating you for President again,
I’ll vote for you with both hands, and I’ll buy
you a bottle or two of your favorite drink. You
will deserve it! Let’s work together.
Best wishes,
Ken
On 4/15/2021 2:12 PM,
Jim Ruby wrote:
Ken,
We
are a?board with members. We were formed
to represent the will of the property
owners in regards to the "Roads".? During
the last meeting, it was decided that site
#1 (the best site) would be investigated
until it had been determined it was
unusable. I do not understand why you
consider this site a "long shot", ?and I
respectfully disagree!? it appears to me
that you are following your own agenda.?
?I will openly admit that I am troubled by
some of your?actions.? We just received a
statement from the attorney for $200 for
just talking to you the first time. I
expect we will receive another bill for
the letter of intent you requested him
write to the Ellers and School Board
without first discussing this with the
board. FYI, I sent an email to the
attorney instructing that any requests of
any kind regarding legal matters will come
from the Board,?not any single
individual.??
In
regards to your meeting with the
VDO?President Lynn, I had a meeting with
Ross Miller, the former President of
FRMID?and discussed the agreement with VDO
that you mentioned in a previous email,
that we possibly overlooked. Since we were
both present during the paving of
Fairfield, neither of us were aware of any
such agreement to pave the unused chained
off exit from Palisades. Again I ask, did
you see any such agreement in writing??
?Hopefully you did not commit the district
to fulfill such a request without
discussing and presenting facts to the
board.
Why
may I ask are you so focused with whether
there is or is not an easement bordering
the school property for Site#1?? We have
never approached the school board and
asked them to consider allowing us to
place mail boxes on a small portion of
their property prior to now. If we obtain
permission, and I have confidence that we
will, we do not need to pursue?any other
actions. In my experience the school board
will need to see drawings showing exact
dimensions of the area we are requesting
to use. Do we have the exact dimensions or
requirements signed off by the
Postmaster??
On a
personal note, I feel the need to remind
you that this is Cochise County, Arizona
and we are currently in the middle of an
inflated economy. Everyone that has
anything to do with home services, home
improvement, construction or land
development etc. (which includes our
surveyor) are extremely busy. There are
shortages on products and materials as
well as prices escalating at unimaginal
rates. ?
I
spoke to the?surveyor yesterday, he
apologized and said he will do the best he
can considering his current?backlog of
work. He is unable to predict just when he
will be able to get out to Fairfield but
hopes it might be within the next two
weeks. When he is able to survey our
District for the 4th time, rest assured
that he will have all the current legal
documents to go on. I am curious as to why
you?feel the need to speak to him
personally, and would like to know your
intentions prior to his arrival,
especially if it concerns the district.
In
closing, I want to make it known that I
personally have not chimed in on your
continuous emails for a reason.? As the
Board President, I would like to remain
politically correct and feel it's better
that I say nothing than to add my personal
input which might be considered rather
negative.
Your
personal timeline doesn't matter as much
as doing the right thing concerning the
District does.?
It
is apparent?that you disagree with the way
the district is being managed, then I
suggest you plan to?attend the last
meeting of the year and elect a new
board.?
I’ve been working
on finding a site for the mailboxes
since the Board Meeting last
September.? On September
17, 2020, I sent the Chair of the 3
Canyons Master Design Committee a
“heads-up” email about our plans to
install mailboxes. There was little
progress in the fall because I was
waiting for a Board meeting to be
called to discuss the mailboxes. The
meeting in March was the first since
September.
I must admit that
I’m a little frustrated with the slow
pace of progress, especially the past
few months. Frankly, I feel it has
been me, who has wanted to explore all
the potential sites simultaneously,
against the Road District that focused
solely on site #1 east, which I’ve
always thought was a very long shot.
Why is the Road
District so set on site #1 east? This
is what Jimmy said in his email of
March 21.
“We think #1 is the
best option for these reasons.
1. The mailboxes would be located on
the east side of the road which is
convenient.?
2. The pull out is on private
property. If we lose access to the
pull out, where will we park?”?
That’s it. Why have
the other potential sites, #3 west and
#1 west, been ignored?
As I’ve said
numerous times, I have no favorite
site. I just want to have mailboxes.
At least three factors need to be
considered in evaluating potential
sites: legality, spaciousness, and
convenience, with legality by far the
most important. ?Legality
involves contacting the property
owners and spaciousness involves
knowing the location of the property
line.
They surveyors were
originally scheduled to come out in
early February, but they haven’t been
here yet. They haven’t been given the
priority that they deserve. We don’t
need much information. Only the
location of the property line at site
#1 west and site #3 west.
I request
authorization from Jim to contact
the surveyors ASAP and to meet with
them when they are here.
We also need to
contact the property owners of site #3
west.?
I request
authorization from Jim to contact
the property owners of site #3 west.
I believe that he has their contact
information.
Unfortunately,
we’re not going to make my goal of
having mailboxes installed before
Sharon and I leave for the summer at
the end of May. (I didn’t expect it to
take eight months just to find a site
along Fairfield Cir!) Nevertheless, I
will continue putting my best effort
into the project, and hopefully
someone will take over when we leave.
Ken
<2011-01-20 Deed (VDO to Fairfield).pdf>
|
Kevin, it’s all public record!
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On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 9:35 PM Kevin Fitzpatrick < Kbobfitz@...> wrote:
Jim, ?
I was going to wait a few more weeks before sending a follow-up email. However, in light of recent emails I figured now is a good time to resurrect my request submitted about three weeks ago.?Can the board
please address the following:?
- Send out a copy of the bylaws and/or governing documents for the Fairfield Estates RMID.?
- Send out a financial report documenting the past few years of financial transactions. I would assume this will include the current balance of the account. ?
- Send out a list of projects completed over the past few years and a list of planned/future projects that determined the 2019 tax rate of 3.8029 and the 2020 tax
rate of 4.247. Honestly, this is my biggest ?concern. Based on my?research, we have some of the highest tax rate in the entire county. In most cases by 3 to 4% higher and nobody can tell us what projects are planned that determined the high tax rates.
Are we as a community expected to continue to pay such high rates with no projected projects/transparency? Where are our tax dollars going??
- Does the board know the tax rate for 2021?
- During the last board meeting, a concern was addressed that property owners with unapproved lots were not paying their share of the taxes while still benefiting.
We were told by the board that initially each property owner paid an equal share vs a percentage based on property value. An action was taken for the board to question the county on why the tax process had changed and to determine if we could go back to the
way it was. Has this action been resolved? If so what is the outcome?
Thanks for your time.?
v/r
Kevin Fitzpatrick?
On Apr 15, 2021, at 9:19 PM, Jim Ruby <jeruby@...> wrote:
?
Ken, the financial records are available for everyone to see. The Board sets the budget, the county approves it, and issues a check book, that they refer to as warrants, that require two signatures, and they keep the records. We have never written
more than 5 checks maybe 6 in the past several years. Paying for things like property taxes, mail box rent, and liability insurance.?
Our problem with the county in obtaining monthly statements has been their attempt to automate the system and having us go on line to view them. I liked it better when they just mailed it!
We have more work to do in regards to the county and how they do collections, that will be a topic for the budget meeting for FY 21/22.
Do not pay the attorney it has already been arranged and he should have the check by now. I did see the letter he had drafted to the school board at your request. That prompted me to comment that we shouldn’t pay the attorney for ?things we can do ourselves!
In some cases the squeaky wheel does get the grease, in other cases, it’s an annoyance and you just get a new wheel.?
Thank you for your support to stay on as president, but truthfully I really don’t want the job. I only stayed on this past year because I was asked to due so, because of my longevity and experience. I made it my mission to protect the District from the
first President continually committing us to projects that had nothing to do with Fairfield Roads. He was such an analytical type, and spent our money like it was his own.?
I’m glad you have the VDO agreement in writing, I can’t wait to read it as check the signatures. I guess it’s a good thing you discovered it, other wise we would never have the opportunity to fulfill the obligation.
?A 30x50 area for mailboxes in my estimation may not be realistic but that too will be a topic at the next meeting.? I still believe the PSB will be respective to us using a small area considering ?our district is so small and only grown by two houses
in the past 5 or more years.?
Working together is a must, we all have an investment in this goal. You attract more flys with honey than salt. We need to sell this in order to make it happen. Jimmy made a good solid contact.... now let him work on achieving the goal....Please?
?
Jim,
Thank you for your comments. I understand that as President, you want to withhold comments on many of my emails. And I understand that I do send a lot of emails, but frankly, sometimes a wheel needs to be squeaky to get any action.
Below I address your specific questions and comment that are in quotes.
“During the last meeting, it was decided that site #1 (the best site) would be investigated until it had been determined it was unusable.”?
I don’t recall a decision at the meeting that site #1 was the best site. Nor did Jimmy mention that decision in his email a week after the meeting when he listed the two reasons that he and you thought site #1 was the best option.
“We just received a statement from the attorney for $200 for just talking to you the first time. I expect we will receive another bill for the letter of intent you requested him write to the Ellers and School Board without first discussing
this with the board.”
I don’t recall requesting him to write the letter. I was certainly in favor of him doing it and he may have written them in anticipation that they would be sent. But I don’t want to quibble. I will contact his office tomorrow and pay the
bill myself.
“In regards to your meeting with the VDO?President Lynn……. Again, I ask, did you see any such agreement in writing?”
Yes and a copy is attached. See page 4, third bullet point.
??
“Why may I ask are you so focused with whether there is or is not an easement bordering the school property for Site#1?”
As I’ve said ad nauseam, there are big differences in what rights we have in an easement (some rights) as opposed to private property beyond the easement (no rights.) I was focused on the easement because Jimmy said our request was to install
the mailboxes in the easement that doesn’t exist. Our request should be clear that the boxes need to be installed on the private property, not on the easement.
“Do we have the exact dimensions or requirements signed off by the Postmaster?”
I’ve never seen a requirement for exact dimensions for parking, and just from looking at cluster mailbox installations, I doubt there are any. Obviously, the site must be large enough to be safe. I think the site should be large enough
to make U-turns on to the road, and parking space for two or three cars. My guess is about 30’x50’, but the Board and all interested residents should decide.
“When he is able to survey our District for the 4th time, rest assured that he will have all the current legal documents to go on. I am curious as to why you?feel the need to speak to him personally, and would like to know your intentions
prior to his arrival, especially if it concerns the district.”
We don’t need to have the district survey for the 4th time! Maybe that’s what causing the delay. I only want to speak to him personally because they may have maps that show the location of the property line. Then we won’t need
them to come out at all and save some money. My questions are extremely simple. Where is the property line in two small areas?
“Your personal timeline doesn't matter as much as doing the right thing concerning the District does.”
I completely agree, but taking more than eight months from last September to simply site the mailboxes?does seems unnecessarily long too me.
In closing, Jim, I think you have the personality for a great President, and I greatly appreciate your reviving the Road District. I do believe that we need financial transparently, and I haven’t seen that since September when I joined
the Board. I would like to see a financial report, have an outside audit of the books, and know how my tax dollars are going to be spent. Those are pretty normal expectations for an organization like this. If that information is available at the last meeting
of the year, then I would like the privilege of nominating you for President again, I’ll vote for you with both hands, and I’ll buy you a bottle or two of your favorite drink. You will deserve it! Let’s work together.
Best wishes,
Ken
On 4/15/2021 2:12 PM, Jim Ruby wrote:
Ken,
We are a?board with members. We were formed to represent the will of the property owners in regards to the "Roads".? During the last meeting, it was decided that site #1 (the best site) would
be investigated until it had been determined it was unusable. I do not understand why you consider this site a "long shot", ?and I respectfully disagree!? it appears to me that you are following your own agenda.? ?I will openly admit that I am troubled by
some of your?actions.? We just received a statement from the attorney for $200 for just talking to you the first time. I expect we will receive another bill for the letter of intent you requested him write to the Ellers and School Board without first discussing
this with the board. FYI, I sent an email to the attorney instructing that any requests of any kind regarding legal matters will come from the Board,?not any single individual.??
In regards to your meeting with the VDO?President Lynn, I had a meeting with Ross Miller, the former President of FRMID?and discussed the agreement with VDO that you mentioned in a previous email,
that we possibly overlooked. Since we were both present during the paving of Fairfield, neither of us were aware of any such agreement to pave the unused chained off exit from Palisades. Again I ask, did you see any such agreement in writing?? ?Hopefully you
did not commit the district to fulfill such a request without discussing and presenting facts to the board.
Why may I ask are you so focused with whether there is or is not an easement bordering the school property for Site#1?? We have never approached the school board and asked them to consider allowing
us to place mail boxes on a small portion of their property prior to now. If we obtain permission, and I have confidence that we will, we do not need to pursue?any other actions. In my experience the school board will need to see drawings showing exact dimensions
of the area we are requesting to use. Do we have the exact dimensions or requirements signed off by the Postmaster??
On a personal note, I feel the need to remind you that this is Cochise County, Arizona and we are currently in the middle of an inflated economy. Everyone that has anything to do with home services,
home improvement, construction or land development etc. (which includes our surveyor) are extremely busy. There are shortages on products and materials as well as prices escalating at unimaginal rates. ?
I spoke to the?surveyor yesterday, he apologized and said he will do the best he can considering his current?backlog of work. He is unable to predict just when he will be able to get out to Fairfield
but hopes it might be within the next two weeks. When he is able to survey our District for the 4th time, rest assured that he will have all the current legal documents to go on. I am curious as to why you?feel the need to speak to him personally, and would
like to know your intentions prior to his arrival, especially if it concerns the district.
In closing, I want to make it known that I personally have not chimed in on your continuous emails for a reason.? As the Board President, I would like to remain politically correct and feel it's
better that I say nothing than to add my personal input which might be considered rather negative.
Your personal timeline doesn't matter as much as doing the right thing concerning the District does.?
It is apparent?that you disagree with the way the district is being managed, then I suggest you plan to?attend the last meeting of the year and elect a new board.?
I’ve been working on finding a site for the mailboxes since the Board Meeting last September.?
On September 17, 2020, I sent the Chair of the 3 Canyons Master Design Committee a “heads-up” email about our plans to install mailboxes. There was little progress in the fall because I was waiting for a Board meeting to be called to discuss the mailboxes.
The meeting in March was the first since September.
I must admit that I’m a little frustrated with the slow pace of progress, especially the past few months. Frankly, I feel it has been me, who has wanted to explore all the potential sites simultaneously, against the Road District that focused
solely on site #1 east, which I’ve always thought was a very long shot.
Why is the Road District so set on site #1 east? This is what Jimmy said in his email of March 21.
“We think #1 is the best option for these reasons.
1. The mailboxes would be located on the east side of the road which is convenient.?
2. The pull out is on private property. If we lose access to the pull out, where will we park?”?
That’s it. Why have the other potential sites, #3 west and #1 west, been ignored?
As I’ve said numerous times, I have no favorite site. I just want to have mailboxes. At least three factors need to be considered in evaluating potential sites: legality, spaciousness, and convenience, with legality by far the most important.
?Legality involves contacting the property owners and spaciousness involves knowing the location of the property line.
They surveyors were originally scheduled to come out in early February, but they haven’t been here yet. They haven’t been given the priority that they deserve. We don’t need much information. Only the location of the property line at site
#1 west and site #3 west.
I request authorization from Jim to contact the surveyors ASAP and to meet with them when they are here.
We also need to contact the property owners of site #3 west.?
I request authorization from Jim to contact the property owners of site #3 west. I believe that he has their contact information.
Unfortunately, we’re not going to make my goal of having mailboxes installed before Sharon and I leave for the summer at the end of May. (I didn’t expect it to take eight months just to find a site along Fairfield Cir!) Nevertheless, I
will continue putting my best effort into the project, and hopefully someone will take over when we leave.
Ken
<2011-01-20 Deed (VDO to Fairfield).pdf>
|
Jim, can you tell us where that public
record is? I haven't seen it but will go to the county tomorrow
and see what I can find.
Ken
On 4/18/2021 4:34 PM, Jim Ruby wrote:
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Show quoted text
Kevin, it’s all public record!
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 9:35
PM Kevin Fitzpatrick < Kbobfitz@...>
wrote:
Jim, ?
I was going to wait a few more weeks before sending a
follow-up email. However, in light of recent emails I
figured now is a good time to resurrect my request
submitted about three weeks ago.?Can the board
please address the following:?
- Send
out a copy of the bylaws and/or governing
documents for the Fairfield Estates RMID.?
- Send
out a financial report documenting the past few
years of financial transactions. I would assume
this will include the current balance of the
account. ?
- Send
out a list of projects completed over the past few
years and a list of planned/future projects that
determined the 2019 tax rate of 3.8029 and the
2020 tax rate of 4.247. Honestly, this is my
biggest ?concern. Based on my?research, we
have some of the highest tax rate in the entire
county. In most cases by 3 to 4% higher and nobody
can tell us what projects are planned that
determined the high tax rates. Are we as a community
expected to continue to pay such high rates with no
projected projects/transparency? Where are our tax
dollars going??
- Does
the board know the tax rate for 2021?
- During
the last board meeting, a concern was addressed
that property owners with unapproved lots were not
paying their share of the taxes while still
benefiting. We were told by the board that
initially each property owner paid an equal share
vs a percentage based on property value. An action
was taken for the board to question the county on
why the tax process had changed and to determine
if we could go back to the way it was. Has this
action been resolved? If so what is the outcome?
Thanks for your time.?
v/r
Kevin Fitzpatrick?
On Apr 15, 2021, at 9:19 PM,
Jim Ruby <jeruby@...>
wrote:
?
Ken, the financial records are
available for everyone to see. The Board sets the
budget, the county approves it, and issues a check
book, that they refer to as warrants, that require
two signatures, and they keep the records. We have
never written more than 5 checks maybe 6 in the
past several years. Paying for things like
property taxes, mail box rent, and liability
insurance.?
Our problem with the county in
obtaining monthly statements has been their
attempt to automate the system and having us go on
line to view them. I liked it better when they
just mailed it!
We have more work to do in regards to
the county and how they do collections, that will
be a topic for the budget meeting for FY 21/22.
Do not pay the attorney it has already been
arranged and he should have the check by now. I
did see the letter he had drafted to the school
board at your request. That prompted me to
comment that we shouldn’t pay the attorney for
?things we can do ourselves!
In some cases the squeaky wheel does get the
grease, in other cases, it’s an annoyance and
you just get a new wheel.?
Thank you for your support to stay on as
president, but truthfully I really don’t want
the job. I only stayed on this past year because
I was asked to due so, because of my longevity
and experience. I made it my mission to protect
the District from the first President
continually committing us to projects that had
nothing to do with Fairfield Roads. He was such
an analytical type, and spent our money like it
was his own.?
I’m glad you have the VDO agreement in
writing, I can’t wait to read it as check the
signatures. I guess it’s a good thing you
discovered it, other wise we would never have
the opportunity to fulfill the obligation.
?A 30x50 area for mailboxes in my estimation
may not be realistic but that too will be a
topic at the next meeting.? I still believe the
PSB will be respective to us using a small area
considering ?our district is so small and only
grown by two houses in the past 5 or more
years.?
Working together is a must, we all have
an investment in this goal. You attract more
flys with honey than salt. We need to sell
this in order to make it happen. Jimmy made
a good solid contact.... now let him work on
achieving the goal....Please?
?
Jim,
Thank you for
your comments. I understand that as
President, you want to withhold
comments on many of my emails. And I
understand that I do send a lot of
emails, but frankly, sometimes a
wheel needs to be squeaky to get any
action.
Below I address
your specific questions and comment
that are in quotes.
“During the last
meeting, it was decided that site #1
(the best site) would be
investigated until it had been
determined it was unusable.”?
I don’t recall a
decision at the meeting that site #1
was the best site. Nor did Jimmy
mention that decision in his email a
week after the meeting when he
listed the two reasons that he and
you thought site #1 was the best
option.
“We just received
a statement from the attorney for
$200 for just talking to you the
first time. I expect we will receive
another bill for the letter of
intent you requested him write to
the Ellers and School Board without
first discussing this with the
board.”
I don’t recall
requesting him to write the letter.
I was certainly in favor of him
doing it and he may have written
them in anticipation that they would
be sent. But I don’t want to
quibble. I will contact his office
tomorrow and pay the bill myself.
“In regards to
your meeting with the VDO?President
Lynn……. Again, I ask, did you see
any such agreement in writing?”
Yes and a copy is
attached. See page 4, third bullet
point.
??
“Why may I ask
are you so focused with whether
there is or is not an easement
bordering the school property for
Site#1?”
As I’ve said ad
nauseam, there are big differences
in what rights we have in an
easement (some rights) as opposed to
private property beyond the easement
(no rights.) I was focused on the
easement because Jimmy said our
request was to install the mailboxes
in the easement that doesn’t exist.
Our request should be clear that the
boxes need to be installed on the
private property, not on the
easement.
“Do we have the
exact dimensions or requirements
signed off by the Postmaster?”
I’ve never seen a
requirement for exact dimensions for
parking, and just from looking at
cluster mailbox installations, I
doubt there are any. Obviously, the
site must be large enough to be
safe. I think the site should be
large enough to make U-turns on to
the road, and parking space for two
or three cars. My guess is about
30’x50’, but the Board and all
interested residents should decide.
“When he is able
to survey our District for the 4th
time, rest assured that he will have
all the current legal documents to
go on. I am curious as to why
you?feel the need to speak to him
personally, and would like to know
your intentions prior to his
arrival, especially if it concerns
the district.”
We don’t need to
have the district survey for the 4th
time! Maybe that’s what causing the
delay. I only want to speak to him
personally because they may have
maps that show the location of the
property line. Then we won’t need
them to come out at all and save
some money. My questions are
extremely simple. Where is the
property line in two small areas?
“Your personal
timeline doesn't matter as much as
doing the right thing concerning the
District does.”
I completely
agree, but taking more than eight
months from last September to simply
site the mailboxes?does seems
unnecessarily long too me.
In closing, Jim,
I think you have the personality for
a great President, and I greatly
appreciate your reviving the Road
District. I do believe that we need
financial transparently, and I
haven’t seen that since September
when I joined the Board. I would
like to see a financial report, have
an outside audit of the books, and
know how my tax dollars are going to
be spent. Those are pretty normal
expectations for an organization
like this. If that information is
available at the last meeting of the
year, then I would like the
privilege of nominating you for
President again, I’ll vote for you
with both hands, and I’ll buy you a
bottle or two of your favorite
drink. You will deserve it! Let’s
work together.
Best wishes,
Ken
On 4/15/2021 2:12 PM, Jim Ruby
wrote:
Ken,
We
are a?board with members. We
were formed to represent the
will of the property owners in
regards to the "Roads".?
During the last meeting, it
was decided that site #1 (the
best site) would be
investigated until it had been
determined it was unusable. I
do not understand why you
consider this site a "long
shot", ?and I respectfully
disagree!? it appears to me
that you are following your
own agenda.? ?I will openly
admit that I am troubled by
some of your?actions.? We just
received a statement from the
attorney for $200 for just
talking to you the first time.
I expect we will receive
another bill for the letter of
intent you requested him write
to the Ellers and School Board
without first discussing this
with the board. FYI, I sent an
email to the attorney
instructing that any requests
of any kind regarding legal
matters will come from the
Board,?not any single
individual.??
In
regards to your meeting with
the VDO?President Lynn, I had
a meeting with Ross Miller,
the former President of
FRMID?and discussed the
agreement with VDO that you
mentioned in a previous email,
that we possibly overlooked.
Since we were both present
during the paving of
Fairfield, neither of us were
aware of any such agreement to
pave the unused chained off
exit from Palisades. Again I
ask, did you see any such
agreement in writing??
?Hopefully you did not commit
the district to fulfill such a
request without discussing and
presenting facts to the board.
Why
may I ask are you so focused
with whether there is or is
not an easement bordering the
school property for Site#1??
We have never approached the
school board and asked them to
consider allowing us to place
mail boxes on a small portion
of their property prior to
now. If we obtain permission,
and I have confidence that we
will, we do not need to
pursue?any other actions. In
my experience the school board
will need to see drawings
showing exact dimensions of
the area we are requesting to
use. Do we have the exact
dimensions or requirements
signed off by the Postmaster??
On
a personal note, I feel the
need to remind you that this
is Cochise County, Arizona and
we are currently in the middle
of an inflated economy.
Everyone that has anything to
do with home services, home
improvement, construction or
land development etc. (which
includes our surveyor) are
extremely busy. There are
shortages on products and
materials as well as prices
escalating at unimaginal
rates. ?
I
spoke to the?surveyor
yesterday, he apologized and
said he will do the best he
can considering his
current?backlog of work. He is
unable to predict just when he
will be able to get out to
Fairfield but hopes it might
be within the next two weeks.
When he is able to survey our
District for the 4th time,
rest assured that he will have
all the current legal
documents to go on. I am
curious as to why you?feel the
need to speak to him
personally, and would like to
know your intentions prior to
his arrival, especially if it
concerns the district.
In
closing, I want to make it
known that I personally have
not chimed in on your
continuous emails for a
reason.? As the Board
President, I would like to
remain politically correct and
feel it's better that I say
nothing than to add my
personal input which might be
considered rather negative.
Your
personal timeline doesn't
matter as much as doing the
right thing concerning the
District does.?
It
is apparent?that you disagree
with the way the district is
being managed, then I suggest
you plan to?attend the last
meeting of the year and elect
a new board.?
I’ve
been working on finding a
site for the mailboxes
since the Board Meeting
last September.?
On September 17,
2020, I sent the Chair of
the 3 Canyons Master
Design Committee a
“heads-up” email about our
plans to install
mailboxes. There was
little progress in the
fall because I was waiting
for a Board meeting to be
called to discuss the
mailboxes. The meeting in
March was the first since
September.
I must
admit that I’m a little
frustrated with the slow
pace of progress,
especially the past few
months. Frankly, I feel it
has been me, who has
wanted to explore all the
potential sites
simultaneously, against
the Road District that
focused solely on site #1
east, which I’ve always
thought was a very long
shot.
Why is
the Road District so set
on site #1 east? This is
what Jimmy said in his
email of March 21.
“We
think #1 is the best
option for these reasons.
1. The mailboxes would be
located on the east side
of the road which is
convenient.?
2. The pull out is on
private property. If we
lose access to the pull
out, where will we park?”?
That’s
it. Why have the other
potential sites, #3 west
and #1 west, been ignored?
As I’ve
said numerous times, I
have no favorite site. I
just want to have
mailboxes. At least three
factors need to be
considered in evaluating
potential sites: legality,
spaciousness, and
convenience, with legality
by far the most important.
?Legality
involves contacting the
property owners and
spaciousness involves
knowing the location of
the property line.
They
surveyors were originally
scheduled to come out in
early February, but they
haven’t been here yet.
They haven’t been given
the priority that they
deserve. We don’t need
much information. Only the
location of the property
line at site #1 west and
site #3 west.
I
request authorization
from Jim to contact the
surveyors ASAP and to
meet with them when they
are here.
We also
need to contact the
property owners of site #3
west.?
I
request authorization
from Jim to contact the
property owners of site
#3 west. I believe that
he has their contact
information.
Unfortunately,
we’re not going to make my
goal of having mailboxes
installed before Sharon
and I leave for the summer
at the end of May. (I
didn’t expect it to take
eight months just to find
a site along Fairfield
Cir!) Nevertheless, I will
continue putting my best
effort into the project,
and hopefully someone will
take over when we leave.
Ken
<2011-01-20 Deed (VDO to
Fairfield).pdf>
|
Jim,
Thank you for the response. I do appreciate it. We will definitely check into the county to see what we can fine. But shouldn’t at the board be able to provide this information as well?
Respectfully?
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On Apr 18, 2021, at 4:34 PM, Jim Ruby <jeruby@...> wrote:
?
Kevin, it’s all public record!
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 9:35 PM Kevin Fitzpatrick < Kbobfitz@...> wrote:
Jim, ?
I was going to wait a few more weeks before sending a follow-up email. However, in light of recent emails I figured now is a good time to resurrect my request submitted about three weeks ago.?Can the board please address the following:?
- Send out a copy of the bylaws and/or governing documents for the Fairfield Estates RMID.?
- Send out a financial report documenting the past few years of financial transactions. I would assume this will include the current balance of the account. ?
- Send out a list of projects completed over the past few years and a list of planned/future projects that determined the 2019 tax rate of 3.8029 and the 2020 tax rate of 4.247. Honestly, this
is my biggest ?concern. Based on my?research, we have some of the highest tax rate in the entire county. In most cases by 3 to 4% higher and nobody can tell us what projects are planned that determined the high tax rates. Are we as a community expected
to continue to pay such high rates with no projected projects/transparency? Where are our tax dollars going??
- Does the board know the tax rate for 2021?
- During the last board meeting, a concern was addressed that property owners with unapproved lots were not paying their share of the taxes while still benefiting. We were told by the board that
initially each property owner paid an equal share vs a percentage based on property value. An action was taken for the board to question the county on why the tax process had changed and to determine if we could go back to the way it was. Has this action been
resolved? If so what is the outcome?
Thanks for your time.?
v/r
Kevin Fitzpatrick?
On Apr 15, 2021, at 9:19 PM, Jim Ruby <jeruby@...> wrote:
?
Ken, the financial records are available for everyone to see. The Board sets the budget, the county approves it, and issues a check book, that they refer to as warrants, that require two signatures, and they keep the records. We have never written
more than 5 checks maybe 6 in the past several years. Paying for things like property taxes, mail box rent, and liability insurance.?
Our problem with the county in obtaining monthly statements has been their attempt to automate the system and having us go on line to view them. I liked it better when they just mailed it!
We have more work to do in regards to the county and how they do collections, that will be a topic for the budget meeting for FY 21/22.
Do not pay the attorney it has already been arranged and he should have the check by now. I did see the letter he had drafted to the school board at your request. That prompted me to comment that we shouldn’t pay the attorney for ?things we can do ourselves!
In some cases the squeaky wheel does get the grease, in other cases, it’s an annoyance and you just get a new wheel.?
Thank you for your support to stay on as president, but truthfully I really don’t want the job. I only stayed on this past year because I was asked to due so, because of my longevity and experience. I made it my mission to protect the District from the
first President continually committing us to projects that had nothing to do with Fairfield Roads. He was such an analytical type, and spent our money like it was his own.?
I’m glad you have the VDO agreement in writing, I can’t wait to read it as check the signatures. I guess it’s a good thing you discovered it, other wise we would never have the opportunity to fulfill the obligation.
?A 30x50 area for mailboxes in my estimation may not be realistic but that too will be a topic at the next meeting.? I still believe the PSB will be respective to us using a small area considering ?our district is so small and only grown by two houses
in the past 5 or more years.?
Working together is a must, we all have an investment in this goal. You attract more flys with honey than salt. We need to sell this in order to make it happen. Jimmy made a good solid contact.... now let him work on achieving the goal....Please?
?
Jim,
Thank you for your comments. I understand that as President, you want to withhold comments on many of my emails. And I understand that I do send a lot of emails, but frankly, sometimes a wheel needs to be squeaky to get any action.
Below I address your specific questions and comment that are in quotes.
“During the last meeting, it was decided that site #1 (the best site) would be investigated until it had been determined it was unusable.”?
I don’t recall a decision at the meeting that site #1 was the best site. Nor did Jimmy mention that decision in his email a week after the meeting when he listed the two reasons that he and you thought site #1 was the best option.
“We just received a statement from the attorney for $200 for just talking to you the first time. I expect we will receive another bill for the letter of intent you requested him write to the Ellers and School Board without first discussing
this with the board.”
I don’t recall requesting him to write the letter. I was certainly in favor of him doing it and he may have written them in anticipation that they would be sent. But I don’t want to quibble. I will contact his office tomorrow and pay the
bill myself.
“In regards to your meeting with the VDO?President Lynn……. Again, I ask, did you see any such agreement in writing?”
Yes and a copy is attached. See page 4, third bullet point.
??
“Why may I ask are you so focused with whether there is or is not an easement bordering the school property for Site#1?”
As I’ve said ad nauseam, there are big differences in what rights we have in an easement (some rights) as opposed to private property beyond the easement (no rights.) I was focused on the easement because Jimmy said our request was to install
the mailboxes in the easement that doesn’t exist. Our request should be clear that the boxes need to be installed on the private property, not on the easement.
“Do we have the exact dimensions or requirements signed off by the Postmaster?”
I’ve never seen a requirement for exact dimensions for parking, and just from looking at cluster mailbox installations, I doubt there are any. Obviously, the site must be large enough to be safe. I think the site should be large enough
to make U-turns on to the road, and parking space for two or three cars. My guess is about 30’x50’, but the Board and all interested residents should decide.
“When he is able to survey our District for the 4th time, rest assured that he will have all the current legal documents to go on. I am curious as to why you?feel the need to speak to him personally, and would like to know your intentions
prior to his arrival, especially if it concerns the district.”
We don’t need to have the district survey for the 4th time! Maybe that’s what causing the delay. I only want to speak to him personally because they may have maps that show the location of the property line. Then we won’t need
them to come out at all and save some money. My questions are extremely simple. Where is the property line in two small areas?
“Your personal timeline doesn't matter as much as doing the right thing concerning the District does.”
I completely agree, but taking more than eight months from last September to simply site the mailboxes?does seems unnecessarily long too me.
In closing, Jim, I think you have the personality for a great President, and I greatly appreciate your reviving the Road District. I do believe that we need financial transparently, and I haven’t seen that since September when I joined
the Board. I would like to see a financial report, have an outside audit of the books, and know how my tax dollars are going to be spent. Those are pretty normal expectations for an organization like this. If that information is available at the last meeting
of the year, then I would like the privilege of nominating you for President again, I’ll vote for you with both hands, and I’ll buy you a bottle or two of your favorite drink. You will deserve it! Let’s work together.
Best wishes,
Ken
On 4/15/2021 2:12 PM, Jim Ruby wrote:
Ken,
We are a?board with members. We were formed to represent the will of the property owners in regards to the "Roads".? During the last meeting, it was decided that site #1 (the best site) would
be investigated until it had been determined it was unusable. I do not understand why you consider this site a "long shot", ?and I respectfully disagree!? it appears to me that you are following your own agenda.? ?I will openly admit that I am troubled by
some of your?actions.? We just received a statement from the attorney for $200 for just talking to you the first time. I expect we will receive another bill for the letter of intent you requested him write to the Ellers and School Board without first discussing
this with the board. FYI, I sent an email to the attorney instructing that any requests of any kind regarding legal matters will come from the Board,?not any single individual.??
In regards to your meeting with the VDO?President Lynn, I had a meeting with Ross Miller, the former President of FRMID?and discussed the agreement with VDO that you mentioned in a previous email,
that we possibly overlooked. Since we were both present during the paving of Fairfield, neither of us were aware of any such agreement to pave the unused chained off exit from Palisades. Again I ask, did you see any such agreement in writing?? ?Hopefully you
did not commit the district to fulfill such a request without discussing and presenting facts to the board.
Why may I ask are you so focused with whether there is or is not an easement bordering the school property for Site#1?? We have never approached the school board and asked them to consider allowing
us to place mail boxes on a small portion of their property prior to now. If we obtain permission, and I have confidence that we will, we do not need to pursue?any other actions. In my experience the school board will need to see drawings showing exact dimensions
of the area we are requesting to use. Do we have the exact dimensions or requirements signed off by the Postmaster??
On a personal note, I feel the need to remind you that this is Cochise County, Arizona and we are currently in the middle of an inflated economy. Everyone that has anything to do with home services,
home improvement, construction or land development etc. (which includes our surveyor) are extremely busy. There are shortages on products and materials as well as prices escalating at unimaginal rates. ?
I spoke to the?surveyor yesterday, he apologized and said he will do the best he can considering his current?backlog of work. He is unable to predict just when he will be able to get out to Fairfield
but hopes it might be within the next two weeks. When he is able to survey our District for the 4th time, rest assured that he will have all the current legal documents to go on. I am curious as to why you?feel the need to speak to him personally, and would
like to know your intentions prior to his arrival, especially if it concerns the district.
In closing, I want to make it known that I personally have not chimed in on your continuous emails for a reason.? As the Board President, I would like to remain politically correct and feel it's
better that I say nothing than to add my personal input which might be considered rather negative.
Your personal timeline doesn't matter as much as doing the right thing concerning the District does.?
It is apparent?that you disagree with the way the district is being managed, then I suggest you plan to?attend the last meeting of the year and elect a new board.?
I’ve been working on finding a site for the mailboxes since the Board Meeting last September.?
On September 17, 2020, I sent the Chair of the 3 Canyons Master Design Committee a “heads-up” email about our plans to install mailboxes. There was little progress in the fall because I was waiting for a Board meeting to be called to discuss the mailboxes.
The meeting in March was the first since September.
I must admit that I’m a little frustrated with the slow pace of progress, especially the past few months. Frankly, I feel it has been me, who has wanted to explore all the potential sites simultaneously, against the Road District that focused
solely on site #1 east, which I’ve always thought was a very long shot.
Why is the Road District so set on site #1 east? This is what Jimmy said in his email of March 21.
“We think #1 is the best option for these reasons.
1. The mailboxes would be located on the east side of the road which is convenient.?
2. The pull out is on private property. If we lose access to the pull out, where will we park?”?
That’s it. Why have the other potential sites, #3 west and #1 west, been ignored?
As I’ve said numerous times, I have no favorite site. I just want to have mailboxes. At least three factors need to be considered in evaluating potential sites: legality, spaciousness, and convenience, with legality by far the most important.
?Legality involves contacting the property owners and spaciousness involves knowing the location of the property line.
They surveyors were originally scheduled to come out in early February, but they haven’t been here yet. They haven’t been given the priority that they deserve. We don’t need much information. Only the location of the property line at site
#1 west and site #3 west.
I request authorization from Jim to contact the surveyors ASAP and to meet with them when they are here.
We also need to contact the property owners of site #3 west.?
I request authorization from Jim to contact the property owners of site #3 west. I believe that he has their contact information.
Unfortunately, we’re not going to make my goal of having mailboxes installed before Sharon and I leave for the summer at the end of May. (I didn’t expect it to take eight months just to find a site along Fairfield Cir!) Nevertheless, I
will continue putting my best effort into the project, and hopefully someone will take over when we leave.
Ken
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