Re: Last call for responses
I was just wandering why the mailboxes couldn't be placed at the beginning of the street by the entrance, where there are no homes and traffic would be to a minimum ?
Hi All,
I'm sure you're getting really tired of getting emails from me, but I
would like to get as many responses as possible regarding the proposed
location of the mailboxes. Of the 17 homeowners on the email lists, so
far 12 have responded with a thumbs up and none with a thumbs down.? If
you haven't responded, please do so by midnight tonight.
Thanks,
Ken
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Hi All,
I'm sure you're getting really tired of getting emails from me, but I would like to get as many responses as possible regarding the proposed location of the mailboxes. Of the 17 homeowners on the email lists, so far 12 have responded with a thumbs up and none with a thumbs down.? If you haven't responded, please do so by midnight tonight.
Thanks,
Ken
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Those
of you
who haven’t joined [email protected]
haven’t seen the replies to my email yesterday, but thus far 11
of the 17
households have replied positively and none negatively. One of
the advantages
of that group is that all the replies are public and saved on
the website. If
you haven’t joined, I encourage you to join so I’ll only have to
deal with one
email list. If you haven't found your invitation email, I'll be
happy to have another sent.
Ken
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Great job Ken! Well done and thanks the the time and energy you put into this project.
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The Fish’s concur with the proposed mailbox location #3.
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On Mar 8, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Ken Cameron via groups.io <rocks@...> wrote:
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Nathan Williams, the Road District attorney, and I had a very productive meeting this morning. Attached is a copy of the agenda, and he is cc on this email.
Nathan looked at the easement documents for sites
?#1 (On Fairfield Cir. near 3 Canyons Blvd.) and #3 (on Fairfield near Paso Venado). He said that from a legal point of view, # 3 was preferred for the mailboxes because the easement agreement is actually between the Road District and the previous landowner,
and the agreement was broader in scope that the easement document for the Palominas School District property adjacent to site #1. In fact, he says that we don’t need the owner’s permission at site #3 so long as the mailboxes and parking area are in the easement.
He can write a letter to the property owner telling them that the Road District intends to install mailboxes and give them 30 days to respond.
As I mentioned in a previous email, the easement is 40ft wide and the road, Fairfield Cir., is on the east side of the easement. There isn’t enough space on the easement east of the road for the cluster mailboxes, thus they must be on the
west side of the road. See the attached diagram and photos for the location and site plan of the mailbox area.
A major physical advantage of site #3 is that we can take use the existing partly graveled gate entrance immediately south of the site and the partly graveled “pull-out” across the road for parking and making turns. Those areas make the
site relatively spacious. ?
This is your opportunity to give a thumbs up or down to site #3. I’ll assume that everyone checks their email at least every other day, so if you are going to respond, I will expect you to do so by midnight Wednesday, March 10. If you give
the site a thumbs down, please justify your response, propose a reasonable alternative site, or state that you don’t want mailboxes.
The Road District is a hugely important asset of Fairfield Estates, and I know from discussions with my neighbors that many of us wouldn’t be living here if the main roads weren’t paved. Five roads or portions of roads remain to be paved,
but they total less than three-quarters of a mile.
The Road District also is a significant tax burden. Look at your property tax bill, and you will find that it’s probably costing you about $1,000/yr. in taxes. Nathan told me that there is a governance document for the Road District although
he doesn’t have a copy. He said that special districts are usually governed similar to HOAs. I assume that means there should be an annual meeting of the members (taxpayers) and an annual financial statement and budget. Does anyone have a copy of the Road
District governance document? If not, I’ll get a copy from the County Recorder Office after the mailboxes are history.
Ken
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The Zieglers are fine with the proposal
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On Mar 8, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Ken Cameron via < rocks@...> wrote:
Nathan Williams, the Road District attorney,
and I had a
very productive meeting this morning. Attached is a copy of the
agenda, and he
is cc on this email. Nathan looked at the easement documents for
sites ?#1 (On Fairfield
Cir. near 3 Canyons Blvd.)
and #3 (on Fairfield near Paso Venado). He said that from a legal
point of
view, # 3 was preferred for the mailboxes because the easement
agreement is
actually between the Road District and the previous landowner, and
the
agreement was broader in scope that the easement document for the
Palominas
School District property adjacent to site #1. In fact, he says
that we don’t
need the owner’s permission at site #3 so long as the mailboxes
and parking
area are in the easement. He can write a letter to the property
owner telling
them that the Road District intends to install mailboxes and give
them 30 days
to respond. As I mentioned in a previous email, the
easement is 40ft
wide and the road, Fairfield Cir., is on the east side of the
easement. There
isn’t enough space on the easement east of the road for the
cluster mailboxes,
thus they must be on the west side of the road. See the attached
diagram and
photos for the location and site plan of the mailbox area. A major physical advantage of site #3 is that
we can take use
the existing partly graveled gate entrance immediately south of
the site and
the partly graveled “pull-out” across the road for parking and
making turns. Those
areas make the site relatively spacious. ? This is your opportunity to give a thumbs up or
down to site
#3. I’ll assume that everyone checks their email at least every
other day, so if
you are going to respond, I will expect you to do so by midnight
Wednesday,
March 10. If you give the site a thumbs down, please justify your
response, propose
a reasonable alternative site, or state that you don’t want
mailboxes. The Road District is a hugely important asset
of Fairfield
Estates, and I know from discussions with my neighbors that many
of us wouldn’t
be living here if the main roads weren’t paved. Five roads or
portions of roads
remain to be paved, but they total less than three-quarters of a
mile. The Road District also is a significant tax
burden. Look at
your property tax bill, and you will find that it’s probably
costing you about
$1,000/yr. in taxes. Nathan told me that there is a governance
document for the
Road District although he doesn’t have a copy. He said that
special districts
are usually governed similar to HOAs. I assume that means there
should be an annual
meeting of the members (taxpayers) and an annual financial
statement and
budget. Does anyone have a copy of the Road District governance
document? If not,
I’ll get a copy from the County Recorder Office after the
mailboxes are history.
Ken
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Sounds good.?
Bill Condon.?
Nathan Williams, the Road District attorney,
and I had a
very productive meeting this morning. Attached is a copy of the
agenda, and he
is cc on this email.
Nathan looked at the easement documents for
sites ?#1 (On Fairfield
Cir. near 3 Canyons Blvd.)
and #3 (on Fairfield near Paso Venado). He said that from a legal
point of
view, # 3 was preferred for the mailboxes because the easement
agreement is
actually between the Road District and the previous landowner, and
the
agreement was broader in scope that the easement document for the
Palominas
School District property adjacent to site #1. In fact, he says
that we don’t
need the owner’s permission at site #3 so long as the mailboxes
and parking
area are in the easement. He can write a letter to the property
owner telling
them that the Road District intends to install mailboxes and give
them 30 days
to respond.
As I mentioned in a previous email, the
easement is 40ft
wide and the road, Fairfield Cir., is on the east side of the
easement. There
isn’t enough space on the easement east of the road for the
cluster mailboxes,
thus they must be on the west side of the road. See the attached
diagram and
photos for the location and site plan of the mailbox area.
A major physical advantage of site #3 is that
we can take use
the existing partly graveled gate entrance immediately south of
the site and
the partly graveled “pull-out” across the road for parking and
making turns. Those
areas make the site relatively spacious. ?
This is your opportunity to give a thumbs up or
down to site
#3. I’ll assume that everyone checks their email at least every
other day, so if
you are going to respond, I will expect you to do so by midnight
Wednesday,
March 10. If you give the site a thumbs down, please justify your
response, propose
a reasonable alternative site, or state that you don’t want
mailboxes.
The Road District is a hugely important asset
of Fairfield
Estates, and I know from discussions with my neighbors that many
of us wouldn’t
be living here if the main roads weren’t paved. Five roads or
portions of roads
remain to be paved, but they total less than three-quarters of a
mile.
The Road District also is a significant tax
burden. Look at
your property tax bill, and you will find that it’s probably
costing you about
$1,000/yr. in taxes. Nathan told me that there is a governance
document for the
Road District although he doesn’t have a copy. He said that
special districts
are usually governed similar to HOAs. I assume that means there
should be an annual
meeting of the members (taxpayers) and an annual financial
statement and
budget. Does anyone have a copy of the Road District governance
document? If not,
I’ll get a copy from the County Recorder Office after the
mailboxes are history.
Ken
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Karen,
No it's not. See the attached map. It's
"before" (south of) Paso Venado.
Ken
On 3/8/2021 6:49 PM, Karen McKnight
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Is the propose site across the street from my
house at 8081 S. Fairfield circle?
Nathan Williams, the Road District
attorney, and I had a very productive meeting this
morning. Attached is a copy of the agenda, and he is cc
on this email.
Nathan looked at the easement
documents for sites ?#1 (On Fairfield Cir.
near 3 Canyons Blvd.) and #3 (on Fairfield near Paso
Venado). He said that from a legal point of view, # 3
was preferred for the mailboxes because the easement
agreement is actually between the Road District and the
previous landowner, and the agreement was broader in
scope that the easement document for the Palominas
School District property adjacent to site #1. In fact,
he says that we don’t need the owner’s permission at
site #3 so long as the mailboxes and parking area are in
the easement. He can write a letter to the property
owner telling them that the Road District intends to
install mailboxes and give them 30 days to respond.
As I mentioned in a previous email,
the easement is 40ft wide and the road, Fairfield Cir.,
is on the east side of the easement. There isn’t enough
space on the easement east of the road for the cluster
mailboxes, thus they must be on the west side of the
road. See the attached diagram and photos for the
location and site plan of the mailbox area.
A major physical advantage of site #3
is that we can take use the existing partly graveled
gate entrance immediately south of the site and the
partly graveled “pull-out” across the road for parking
and making turns. Those areas make the site relatively
spacious. ?
This is your opportunity to give a
thumbs up or down to site #3. I’ll assume that everyone
checks their email at least every other day, so if you
are going to respond, I will expect you to do so by
midnight Wednesday, March 10. If you give the site a
thumbs down, please justify your response, propose a
reasonable alternative site, or state that you don’t
want mailboxes.
The Road District is a hugely
important asset of Fairfield Estates, and I know from
discussions with my neighbors that many of us wouldn’t
be living here if the main roads weren’t paved. Five
roads or portions of roads remain to be paved, but they
total less than three-quarters of a mile.
The Road District also is a
significant tax burden. Look at your property tax bill,
and you will find that it’s probably costing you about
$1,000/yr. in taxes. Nathan told me that there is a
governance document for the Road District although he
doesn’t have a copy. He said that special districts are
usually governed similar to HOAs. I assume that means
there should be an annual meeting of the members
(taxpayers) and an annual financial statement and
budget. Does anyone have a copy of the Road District
governance document? If not, I’ll get a copy from the
County Recorder Office after the mailboxes are history.
Ken
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This site/ plan seems great?
- The Apodacas
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The Nyander's concur with the proposed site.
Nathan Williams, the Road District attorney,
and I had a
very productive meeting this morning. Attached is a copy of the
agenda, and he
is cc on this email.
Nathan looked at the easement documents for
sites ?#1 (On Fairfield
Cir. near 3 Canyons Blvd.)
and #3 (on Fairfield near Paso Venado). He said that from a legal
point of
view, # 3 was preferred for the mailboxes because the easement
agreement is
actually between the Road District and the previous landowner, and
the
agreement was broader in scope that the easement document for the
Palominas
School District property adjacent to site #1. In fact, he says
that we don’t
need the owner’s permission at site #3 so long as the mailboxes
and parking
area are in the easement. He can write a letter to the property
owner telling
them that the Road District intends to install mailboxes and give
them 30 days
to respond.
As I mentioned in a previous email, the
easement is 40ft
wide and the road, Fairfield Cir., is on the east side of the
easement. There
isn’t enough space on the easement east of the road for the
cluster mailboxes,
thus they must be on the west side of the road. See the attached
diagram and
photos for the location and site plan of the mailbox area.
A major physical advantage of site #3 is that
we can take use
the existing partly graveled gate entrance immediately south of
the site and
the partly graveled “pull-out” across the road for parking and
making turns. Those
areas make the site relatively spacious. ?
This is your opportunity to give a thumbs up or
down to site
#3. I’ll assume that everyone checks their email at least every
other day, so if
you are going to respond, I will expect you to do so by midnight
Wednesday,
March 10. If you give the site a thumbs down, please justify your
response, propose
a reasonable alternative site, or state that you don’t want
mailboxes.
The Road District is a hugely important asset
of Fairfield
Estates, and I know from discussions with my neighbors that many
of us wouldn’t
be living here if the main roads weren’t paved. Five roads or
portions of roads
remain to be paved, but they total less than three-quarters of a
mile.
The Road District also is a significant tax
burden. Look at
your property tax bill, and you will find that it’s probably
costing you about
$1,000/yr. in taxes. Nathan told me that there is a governance
document for the
Road District although he doesn’t have a copy. He said that
special districts
are usually governed similar to HOAs. I assume that means there
should be an annual
meeting of the members (taxpayers) and an annual financial
statement and
budget. Does anyone have a copy of the Road District governance
document? If not,
I’ll get a copy from the County Recorder Office after the
mailboxes are history.
Ken
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Is the propose site across the street from my house at 8081 S. Fairfield circle?
Nathan Williams, the Road District attorney,
and I had a
very productive meeting this morning. Attached is a copy of the
agenda, and he
is cc on this email.
Nathan looked at the easement documents for
sites ?#1 (On Fairfield
Cir. near 3 Canyons Blvd.)
and #3 (on Fairfield near Paso Venado). He said that from a legal
point of
view, # 3 was preferred for the mailboxes because the easement
agreement is
actually between the Road District and the previous landowner, and
the
agreement was broader in scope that the easement document for the
Palominas
School District property adjacent to site #1. In fact, he says
that we don’t
need the owner’s permission at site #3 so long as the mailboxes
and parking
area are in the easement. He can write a letter to the property
owner telling
them that the Road District intends to install mailboxes and give
them 30 days
to respond.
As I mentioned in a previous email, the
easement is 40ft
wide and the road, Fairfield Cir., is on the east side of the
easement. There
isn’t enough space on the easement east of the road for the
cluster mailboxes,
thus they must be on the west side of the road. See the attached
diagram and
photos for the location and site plan of the mailbox area.
A major physical advantage of site #3 is that
we can take use
the existing partly graveled gate entrance immediately south of
the site and
the partly graveled “pull-out” across the road for parking and
making turns. Those
areas make the site relatively spacious. ?
This is your opportunity to give a thumbs up or
down to site
#3. I’ll assume that everyone checks their email at least every
other day, so if
you are going to respond, I will expect you to do so by midnight
Wednesday,
March 10. If you give the site a thumbs down, please justify your
response, propose
a reasonable alternative site, or state that you don’t want
mailboxes.
The Road District is a hugely important asset
of Fairfield
Estates, and I know from discussions with my neighbors that many
of us wouldn’t
be living here if the main roads weren’t paved. Five roads or
portions of roads
remain to be paved, but they total less than three-quarters of a
mile.
The Road District also is a significant tax
burden. Look at
your property tax bill, and you will find that it’s probably
costing you about
$1,000/yr. in taxes. Nathan told me that there is a governance
document for the
Road District although he doesn’t have a copy. He said that
special districts
are usually governed similar to HOAs. I assume that means there
should be an annual
meeting of the members (taxpayers) and an annual financial
statement and
budget. Does anyone have a copy of the Road District governance
document? If not,
I’ll get a copy from the County Recorder Office after the
mailboxes are history.
Ken
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I don't have a photo of either option can someone send me a copy.
Thank you, Karen
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 5:54 PM J DIAZ < chuy_65@...> wrote:
Diaz family is good to go with the proposal... ?
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The Boggie’s are in agreement with the proposed site.
Mark
Sir,
The Paddocks are good with the site.
Matthew Paddock
On Mar 8, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Ken Cameron via < rocks@...> wrote:
Nathan Williams, the Road District attorney, and I had a very productive meeting this morning. Attached is a copy of the agenda, and he is cc on this email.
Nathan looked at the easement documents for sites
?#1 (On Fairfield Cir. near 3 Canyons Blvd.) and #3 (on Fairfield near Paso Venado). He said that from a legal point of view, # 3 was preferred for the mailboxes because the easement agreement is actually between the Road District and the previous landowner,
and the agreement was broader in scope that the easement document for the Palominas School District property adjacent to site #1. In fact, he says that we don’t need the owner’s permission at site #3 so long as the mailboxes and parking area are in the easement.
He can write a letter to the property owner telling them that the Road District intends to install mailboxes and give them 30 days to respond.
As I mentioned in a previous email, the easement is 40ft wide and the road, Fairfield Cir., is on the east side of the easement. There isn’t enough space on the easement east of the road for the cluster mailboxes, thus they must be on
the west side of the road. See the attached diagram and photos for the location and site plan of the mailbox area.
A major physical advantage of site #3 is that we can take use the existing partly graveled gate entrance immediately south of the site and the partly graveled “pull-out” across the road for parking and making turns. Those areas make the
site relatively spacious. ?
This is your opportunity to give a thumbs up or down to site #3. I’ll assume that everyone checks their email at least every other day, so if you are going to respond, I will expect you to do so by midnight Wednesday, March 10. If you
give the site a thumbs down, please justify your response, propose a reasonable alternative site, or state that you don’t want mailboxes.
The Road District is a hugely important asset of Fairfield Estates, and I know from discussions with my neighbors that many of us wouldn’t be living here if the main roads weren’t paved. Five roads or portions of roads remain to be paved,
but they total less than three-quarters of a mile.
The Road District also is a significant tax burden. Look at your property tax bill, and you will find that it’s probably costing you about $1,000/yr. in taxes. Nathan told me that there is a governance document for the Road District although
he doesn’t have a copy. He said that special districts are usually governed similar to HOAs. I assume that means there should be an annual meeting of the members (taxpayers) and an annual financial statement and budget. Does anyone have a copy of the Road
District governance document? If not, I’ll get a copy from the County Recorder Office after the mailboxes are history.
Ken
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Diaz family is good to go with the proposal... ?
Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device
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The Boggie’s are in agreement with the proposed site.
Mark
Sir,
The Paddocks are good with the site.
Matthew Paddock
On Mar 8, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Ken Cameron via < rocks@...> wrote:
Nathan Williams, the Road District attorney, and I had a very productive meeting this morning. Attached is a copy of the agenda, and he is cc on this email.
Nathan looked at the easement documents for sites
?#1 (On Fairfield Cir. near 3 Canyons Blvd.) and #3 (on Fairfield near Paso Venado). He said that from a legal point of view, # 3 was preferred for the mailboxes because the easement agreement is actually between the Road District and the previous landowner,
and the agreement was broader in scope that the easement document for the Palominas School District property adjacent to site #1. In fact, he says that we don’t need the owner’s permission at site #3 so long as the mailboxes and parking area are in the easement.
He can write a letter to the property owner telling them that the Road District intends to install mailboxes and give them 30 days to respond.
As I mentioned in a previous email, the easement is 40ft wide and the road, Fairfield Cir., is on the east side of the easement. There isn’t enough space on the easement east of the road for the cluster mailboxes, thus they must be on
the west side of the road. See the attached diagram and photos for the location and site plan of the mailbox area.
A major physical advantage of site #3 is that we can take use the existing partly graveled gate entrance immediately south of the site and the partly graveled “pull-out” across the road for parking and making turns. Those areas make the
site relatively spacious. ?
This is your opportunity to give a thumbs up or down to site #3. I’ll assume that everyone checks their email at least every other day, so if you are going to respond, I will expect you to do so by midnight Wednesday, March 10. If you
give the site a thumbs down, please justify your response, propose a reasonable alternative site, or state that you don’t want mailboxes.
The Road District is a hugely important asset of Fairfield Estates, and I know from discussions with my neighbors that many of us wouldn’t be living here if the main roads weren’t paved. Five roads or portions of roads remain to be paved,
but they total less than three-quarters of a mile.
The Road District also is a significant tax burden. Look at your property tax bill, and you will find that it’s probably costing you about $1,000/yr. in taxes. Nathan told me that there is a governance document for the Road District although
he doesn’t have a copy. He said that special districts are usually governed similar to HOAs. I assume that means there should be an annual meeting of the members (taxpayers) and an annual financial statement and budget. Does anyone have a copy of the Road
District governance document? If not, I’ll get a copy from the County Recorder Office after the mailboxes are history.
Ken
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The Boggie’s are in agreement with the proposed site.
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The Paddocks are good with the site.
Matthew Paddock On Mar 8, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Ken Cameron via < rocks@...> wrote:
Nathan Williams, the Road District attorney,
and I had a
very productive meeting this morning. Attached is a copy of the
agenda, and he
is cc on this email. Nathan looked at the easement documents for
sites ?#1 (On Fairfield
Cir. near 3 Canyons Blvd.)
and #3 (on Fairfield near Paso Venado). He said that from a legal
point of
view, # 3 was preferred for the mailboxes because the easement
agreement is
actually between the Road District and the previous landowner, and
the
agreement was broader in scope that the easement document for the
Palominas
School District property adjacent to site #1. In fact, he says
that we don’t
need the owner’s permission at site #3 so long as the mailboxes
and parking
area are in the easement. He can write a letter to the property
owner telling
them that the Road District intends to install mailboxes and give
them 30 days
to respond. As I mentioned in a previous email, the
easement is 40ft
wide and the road, Fairfield Cir., is on the east side of the
easement. There
isn’t enough space on the easement east of the road for the
cluster mailboxes,
thus they must be on the west side of the road. See the attached
diagram and
photos for the location and site plan of the mailbox area. A major physical advantage of site #3 is that
we can take use
the existing partly graveled gate entrance immediately south of
the site and
the partly graveled “pull-out” across the road for parking and
making turns. Those
areas make the site relatively spacious. ? This is your opportunity to give a thumbs up or
down to site
#3. I’ll assume that everyone checks their email at least every
other day, so if
you are going to respond, I will expect you to do so by midnight
Wednesday,
March 10. If you give the site a thumbs down, please justify your
response, propose
a reasonable alternative site, or state that you don’t want
mailboxes. The Road District is a hugely important asset
of Fairfield
Estates, and I know from discussions with my neighbors that many
of us wouldn’t
be living here if the main roads weren’t paved. Five roads or
portions of roads
remain to be paved, but they total less than three-quarters of a
mile. The Road District also is a significant tax
burden. Look at
your property tax bill, and you will find that it’s probably
costing you about
$1,000/yr. in taxes. Nathan told me that there is a governance
document for the
Road District although he doesn’t have a copy. He said that
special districts
are usually governed similar to HOAs. I assume that means there
should be an annual
meeting of the members (taxpayers) and an annual financial
statement and
budget. Does anyone have a copy of the Road District governance
document? If not,
I’ll get a copy from the County Recorder Office after the
mailboxes are history.
Ken
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Sir,
The Paddocks are good with the site.
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On Mar 8, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Ken Cameron via < rocks@...> wrote:
Nathan Williams, the Road District attorney,
and I had a
very productive meeting this morning. Attached is a copy of the
agenda, and he
is cc on this email. Nathan looked at the easement documents for
sites ?#1 (On Fairfield
Cir. near 3 Canyons Blvd.)
and #3 (on Fairfield near Paso Venado). He said that from a legal
point of
view, # 3 was preferred for the mailboxes because the easement
agreement is
actually between the Road District and the previous landowner, and
the
agreement was broader in scope that the easement document for the
Palominas
School District property adjacent to site #1. In fact, he says
that we don’t
need the owner’s permission at site #3 so long as the mailboxes
and parking
area are in the easement. He can write a letter to the property
owner telling
them that the Road District intends to install mailboxes and give
them 30 days
to respond. As I mentioned in a previous email, the
easement is 40ft
wide and the road, Fairfield Cir., is on the east side of the
easement. There
isn’t enough space on the easement east of the road for the
cluster mailboxes,
thus they must be on the west side of the road. See the attached
diagram and
photos for the location and site plan of the mailbox area. A major physical advantage of site #3 is that
we can take use
the existing partly graveled gate entrance immediately south of
the site and
the partly graveled “pull-out” across the road for parking and
making turns. Those
areas make the site relatively spacious. ? This is your opportunity to give a thumbs up or
down to site
#3. I’ll assume that everyone checks their email at least every
other day, so if
you are going to respond, I will expect you to do so by midnight
Wednesday,
March 10. If you give the site a thumbs down, please justify your
response, propose
a reasonable alternative site, or state that you don’t want
mailboxes. The Road District is a hugely important asset
of Fairfield
Estates, and I know from discussions with my neighbors that many
of us wouldn’t
be living here if the main roads weren’t paved. Five roads or
portions of roads
remain to be paved, but they total less than three-quarters of a
mile. The Road District also is a significant tax
burden. Look at
your property tax bill, and you will find that it’s probably
costing you about
$1,000/yr. in taxes. Nathan told me that there is a governance
document for the
Road District although he doesn’t have a copy. He said that
special districts
are usually governed similar to HOAs. I assume that means there
should be an annual
meeting of the members (taxpayers) and an annual financial
statement and
budget. Does anyone have a copy of the Road District governance
document? If not,
I’ll get a copy from the County Recorder Office after the
mailboxes are history.
Ken
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Nathan Williams, the Road District attorney,
and I had a
very productive meeting this morning. Attached is a copy of the
agenda, and he
is cc on this email.
Nathan looked at the easement documents for
sites ?#1 (On Fairfield
Cir. near 3 Canyons Blvd.)
and #3 (on Fairfield near Paso Venado). He said that from a legal
point of
view, # 3 was preferred for the mailboxes because the easement
agreement is
actually between the Road District and the previous landowner, and
the
agreement was broader in scope that the easement document for the
Palominas
School District property adjacent to site #1. In fact, he says
that we don’t
need the owner’s permission at site #3 so long as the mailboxes
and parking
area are in the easement. He can write a letter to the property
owner telling
them that the Road District intends to install mailboxes and give
them 30 days
to respond.
As I mentioned in a previous email, the
easement is 40ft
wide and the road, Fairfield Cir., is on the east side of the
easement. There
isn’t enough space on the easement east of the road for the
cluster mailboxes,
thus they must be on the west side of the road. See the attached
diagram and
photos for the location and site plan of the mailbox area.
A major physical advantage of site #3 is that
we can take use
the existing partly graveled gate entrance immediately south of
the site and
the partly graveled “pull-out” across the road for parking and
making turns. Those
areas make the site relatively spacious. ?
This is your opportunity to give a thumbs up or
down to site
#3. I’ll assume that everyone checks their email at least every
other day, so if
you are going to respond, I will expect you to do so by midnight
Wednesday,
March 10. If you give the site a thumbs down, please justify your
response, propose
a reasonable alternative site, or state that you don’t want
mailboxes.
The Road District is a hugely important asset
of Fairfield
Estates, and I know from discussions with my neighbors that many
of us wouldn’t
be living here if the main roads weren’t paved. Five roads or
portions of roads
remain to be paved, but they total less than three-quarters of a
mile.
The Road District also is a significant tax
burden. Look at
your property tax bill, and you will find that it’s probably
costing you about
$1,000/yr. in taxes. Nathan told me that there is a governance
document for the
Road District although he doesn’t have a copy. He said that
special districts
are usually governed similar to HOAs. I assume that means there
should be an annual
meeting of the members (taxpayers) and an annual financial
statement and
budget. Does anyone have a copy of the Road District governance
document? If not,
I’ll get a copy from the County Recorder Office after the
mailboxes are history.
Ken
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Thanks Ken!
Just to add, if you don't see the invite ensure to check your junk or spam folder. This is where I found my invite!
Jesse
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Hi All,
I feel that all homeowners in Fairfield Estates should have the opportunity to participate in the discussions regarding the mailboxes because this involves their tax dollars and because they will be visiting the mailboxes almost daily. I now have email addresses
for 17 of the 18 homes. About two-third have joined groups.io. If you haven’t joined and want to, just reply to the invitation that you received last Monday, March 1. Don’t write anything, just tap the reply button and send.
?If you can’t find the invitation, I’ll have another sent. If you have trouble joining, let me know and I’ll deal with the problem. I will continue sending emails to those not in groups.io to keep them up to date regarding developments.
But if you haven’t joined groups.io and want to send an email to those in the group, then you will need to email me, and I will forward your message to the group.
The groups.io email list is far simpler to deal with that the previous list. If you want to send an email to the group, then all you have to do is send the message to one email address. Previously you had to “reply all” to a message or
to cut and paste the entire list of email addresses from some past email. Furthermore, you can view all past groups.io messages on the web. This simplifies things for me because in the past I had to send new members past emails to bring them more or less up
to date.
Basic instructions for groups.io.
(1) How to send a message to the group:?
Send the email to [email protected] and the message will go to everyone in the group.
(2) How to read past messages: All email messages are stored as “Topics” on our groups.io website, and the Topics are label with the subject line of the email. To read past email messages
you must go to the website. There are at least two ways to do that and I’ll refer to them as (2a) and (2b).
(2a) The simplest way to read past messages is to go directly to the website. Its URL (web address) is
/g/FairfieldEstatesMailBoxes I have that bookmarked on my browser.
(2b) Alternatively, you can go to the website from any email that you receive from the group.
At the bottom of any email from the group you will see a list of options that include: View/Reply Online | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic.?
To go to the website click on “View/Reply Online” and that will take you that message on the website. Now you must navigate from that message to the list of Topics. How you do it will depend on if you are on a computer or
cell phone.
If you are on a computer, to the left of the current message on the web is a list of options and one of those is “Messages”.
?Click on Messages, and you will see a list of all past Topics which contain all past email messages.
If you are on a cell phone (at least an iPhone), at the top of the message on the website you will see a button labeled “Single”. Press “Single” then “Topics” and you will see the list of all past Topics and email messages.
Ken
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Easement for the corner of Fairfield and Paso Venado
Thursday, I went to Bisbee and finally got the
document
number for easement agreement for the Eller property at the corner
of Fairfield
and Paso Venado. It turns out the document is on the web, and you
can view it
if you want. Goggle Cochise County Recorder, open the website,
then “Recorder
Information”, “Document Search”, select state and county, then
“Reception
Number”, 2011-20509.
You may recall that the Road District owns a
40ft wide strip
of land from near 3 Canyons Rd to the boundary of Fairfield
Estates. In
Fairfield Estates the road, Fairfield Cir., is on the easements of
private
properties. The easement for the Eller property is described 2011
agreement
between a previously owner of the property and the Road District.
The agreement
is broader than simply “ingress/egress and utility purposes”.? It doesn’t specially mention
mailboxes;
however, there may be a better case for installations of mailboxes
than on the
School District easement.?
But, and there is always a but, the easement is
only 40ft
wide. As far as I know, the surveyors have never come out, but
they told Jim
that the property line was near the fence on the west side of the
road. It’s 38
ft from the fence to the east edge of the road, which means that
there is only
a few feet of easement east of the road; not enough space for the
boxes on the easement.
If the boxes were east of the road, they would need to be on
private property beyond
the easement. However, there is 18 ft between the fence and the
west edge of
the road. That is all in the easement and is sufficient for the
mailboxes and pull-out
parking area.
In any case, that easement agreement was the
last document that
I know that I need for the meeting with Nathan Williams on Monday.
Ken
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Hi All,
I feel that all homeowners in Fairfield Estates should have
the opportunity to participate in the discussions regarding the
mailboxes
because this involves their tax dollars and because they will be
visiting the
mailboxes almost daily. I now have email addresses for 17 of the
18 homes.
About two-third have joined groups.io. If you haven’t joined and
want to, just
reply to the invitation that you received last Monday, March 1.
Don’t write
anything, just tap the reply button and send. ?If you can’t find the
invitation, I’ll have
another sent. If you have trouble joining, let me know and I’ll
deal with the
problem. I will continue sending emails to those not in groups.io
to keep them up
to date regarding developments. But if you haven’t joined
groups.io and want to
send an email to those in the group, then you will need to email
me, and I will
forward your message to the group.
The groups.io email list is far simpler to deal
with that
the previous list. If you want to send an email to the group, then
all you
have to do is send the message to one email address. Previously
you had to “reply
all” to a message or to cut and paste the entire list of email
addresses from
some past email. Furthermore, you can view all past groups.io
messages on the
web. This simplifies things for me because in the past I had to
send new members
past emails to bring them more or less up to date.
Basic instructions for groups.io.
(1) How to send a message to the group:? Send the email to [email protected]
and the message will go to everyone in the group.
(2) How to read past messages: All
email messages are
stored as “Topics” on our groups.io website, and the Topics are
label with the
subject line of the email. To read past email messages you
must go to the
website. There are at least two ways to do that and I’ll
refer to them as
(2a) and (2b).
(2a) The simplest way to read past messages is
to go
directly to the website. Its URL (web address) is /g/FairfieldEstatesMailBoxes
I have that bookmarked on my browser.
(2b) Alternatively, you can go to the website
from any email
that you receive from the group.
At the bottom of any email from the group you
will see a
list of options that include: View/Reply Online | Reply To Group |
Reply To
Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic.?
To go to the website click on “View/Reply
Online”
and that will take you that message on the website. Now you must
navigate from
that message to the list of Topics. How you do it will depend on
if you are on
a computer or cell phone.
If you are on a computer, to the left of
the current
message on the web is a list of options and one of those is
“Messages”. ?Click on
Messages, and you will see a list of
all past Topics which contain all past email messages.
If you are on a cell phone (at least an
iPhone), at
the top of the message on the website you will see a button
labeled “Single”.
Press “Single” then “Topics” and you will see the list of all past
Topics and
email messages.
Ken
|
In preparation for the meeting with Nathan Williams next Monday, I went to the county offices in Bisbee today and actually make some progress learning about the easements. It’s pretty cumbersome trying to get information. The Assessor office supposedly has the information on documents pertaining to the property, but the documents are in the Recorder office. The Recorder office can’t give you any information unless you have a document number from the Assessor office. So, there’s a lot a running back and forth. Some of the document number for a parcel are shown on the Assessor parcel map book, which is right out of the 19th Century! It’s literally cut and paste (or scotch tape)! Attached are a couple photos from the Assessor parcel map book, one showing the School District parcel and the other showing an area in Fairfield Estates.
The Assessor was able to give me the “Easement Recording Number” for the school district parcel. That document number, 960511148, is shown on the photo of the map, and I got a copy of the document from the Recorder. That parcel has a 40ft easement along the west side, that is adjacent to Fairfield Cir. The easement is for “ingress/egress and utility purposes”; it says nothing about mailboxes. The woman at the Assessor office couldn’t find the easement recording number for the Eller property at the corner of Fairfield and Paso Venado because it’s not on the map (parcel 52A). However, from looking at the map, she said that it appears that all the properties adjacent to and east of Fairfield Cir have a 40 ft easement. I’m going back to the county offices tomorrow or Friday and do my best to get the easement document for the Eller’s property.
So, my guess at this point is that if Williams can make a case for the mailboxes being a utility, then we can legally put them wherever we want along Fairfield Cir. If not, then we will need permission of the property owner.
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