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Re: No turn on
Mel Farrer
Just got the unit back.? Opened it up and replaced the RJ12, NADA.? Both checked out good with an ohmmeter.? Yaesu said the mother board showed signs of corrosion, NOT, even under a black light..? So much for honest help.? OK, Will box it up and send it off to a known good repair shop.? OH yes, they did not include?ANY documentation in the box!!!! Even after I asked for it on the phone................................... Mel, K6KBE
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 10:59:53 AM PST, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:
I think the connectors are RJ12 K3CLT Chuck Tobias
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 12:58:24 PM EST, Mel Farrer via Groups.Io <farrerfolks@...> wrote:
No never separated the panel.? I have lots of telco 4 conductor cables, used to be in PT&T decades ago and my son just retired from AT&T.? When I get the unit back, I will take it apart and see what sex cable I need.? I did all of the power checks to the PA board and got the main relay to manually key and have 13.8 VDC leaving the relay so all that is good.? ?Thanks. Mel
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 08:31:51 AM PST, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:
Go to wal Mart and bring the cable with you. Hold the ends together and look at the color arrangement. Get a 4 conductor phone cable off the shelf and look for the same arrangement end to end. You didn't say if you were using a separation kit on the radio. The cable they supply is just a phone cable. I ran a couple of the radios over the years in my company truck and turned them on in the morning and off at night and through rough dirty conditions with no problems.? Did you check the power cables to see if you are providing? power and a ground. Good Luck K3CLT Chuck Tobias
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 10:11:11 AM EST, Mel Farrer via Groups.Io <farrerfolks@...> wrote:
No, Chuck,? Don't have a clue as to where to get one..... Mel, K6KBE
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 06:10:42 AM EST, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:
Did you try replacing the short cable between the head and radio body? K3CLT Chuck Tobias
On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 11:30:42 PM EST, Daniel Gregson <kc7njb@...> wrote:
I had a problem with my 857 not starting, it turned out that the pins in the front panel connector were not all making a connection to the cable pins.? Hope this helps, Dan KC7NJB On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Stu Nutt <stunutt@...> wrote:
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Re: No turn on
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On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:42 PM, ATT <ppgraham@...> wrote:
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Re: No turn on
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýthe cable for the head is a 6 conductor RG12, ? they look like the standard 4 conductor phone cable but it is a bit wider and has 6 conductorsOn Jan 3, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Mel Farrer via Groups.Io <farrerfolks@...> wrote:
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Re: RadioECU 4.3 CATDisplay info?
Frank Howell
Thanks, Merlin. I'm aware of the original Cat Display...and it seems very nice. The one I mentioned "appears" cryptically to have a few additional features which is why I was asking about anyone with any further info or direct experience.
Thanks for the note on the LDG tuner. 73, Frank K4FMH |
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Re: RadioECU 4.3 CATDisplay info?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWish that display had a CAT pass-thru or some way to simultaneously have CAT control with a digital mode interface box (RigBlaster, etc). But then, simultaneous use of the CAT port by two separate devices probably wouldn't work anyway.NG4T On Jan 2, 2020, at 11:30 PM, Merlin, K3MEJ <merlin@...> wrote:
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Re: No turn on
Mel Farrer
Will confirm when it gets here.? Thanks. Mel, K6KBE
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 10:59:53 AM PST, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:
I think the connectors are RJ12 K3CLT Chuck Tobias
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 12:58:24 PM EST, Mel Farrer via Groups.Io <farrerfolks@...> wrote:
No never separated the panel.? I have lots of telco 4 conductor cables, used to be in PT&T decades ago and my son just retired from AT&T.? When I get the unit back, I will take it apart and see what sex cable I need.? I did all of the power checks to the PA board and got the main relay to manually key and have 13.8 VDC leaving the relay so all that is good.? ?Thanks. Mel
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 08:31:51 AM PST, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:
Go to wal Mart and bring the cable with you. Hold the ends together and look at the color arrangement. Get a 4 conductor phone cable off the shelf and look for the same arrangement end to end. You didn't say if you were using a separation kit on the radio. The cable they supply is just a phone cable. I ran a couple of the radios over the years in my company truck and turned them on in the morning and off at night and through rough dirty conditions with no problems.? Did you check the power cables to see if you are providing? power and a ground. Good Luck K3CLT Chuck Tobias
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 10:11:11 AM EST, Mel Farrer via Groups.Io <farrerfolks@...> wrote:
No, Chuck,? Don't have a clue as to where to get one..... Mel, K6KBE
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 06:10:42 AM EST, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:
Did you try replacing the short cable between the head and radio body? K3CLT Chuck Tobias
On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 11:30:42 PM EST, Daniel Gregson <kc7njb@...> wrote:
I had a problem with my 857 not starting, it turned out that the pins in the front panel connector were not all making a connection to the cable pins.? Hope this helps, Dan KC7NJB On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Stu Nutt <stunutt@...> wrote:
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Re: No turn on
I think the connectors are RJ12 K3CLT Chuck Tobias
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 12:58:24 PM EST, Mel Farrer via Groups.Io <farrerfolks@...> wrote:
No never separated the panel.? I have lots of telco 4 conductor cables, used to be in PT&T decades ago and my son just retired from AT&T.? When I get the unit back, I will take it apart and see what sex cable I need.? I did all of the power checks to the PA board and got the main relay to manually key and have 13.8 VDC leaving the relay so all that is good.? ?Thanks. Mel
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 08:31:51 AM PST, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:
Go to wal Mart and bring the cable with you. Hold the ends together and look at the color arrangement. Get a 4 conductor phone cable off the shelf and look for the same arrangement end to end. You didn't say if you were using a separation kit on the radio. The cable they supply is just a phone cable. I ran a couple of the radios over the years in my company truck and turned them on in the morning and off at night and through rough dirty conditions with no problems.? Did you check the power cables to see if you are providing? power and a ground. Good Luck K3CLT Chuck Tobias
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 10:11:11 AM EST, Mel Farrer via Groups.Io <farrerfolks@...> wrote:
No, Chuck,? Don't have a clue as to where to get one..... Mel, K6KBE
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 06:10:42 AM EST, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:
Did you try replacing the short cable between the head and radio body? K3CLT Chuck Tobias
On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 11:30:42 PM EST, Daniel Gregson <kc7njb@...> wrote:
I had a problem with my 857 not starting, it turned out that the pins in the front panel connector were not all making a connection to the cable pins.? Hope this helps, Dan KC7NJB On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Stu Nutt <stunutt@...> wrote:
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Re: No turn on
Mel Farrer
No never separated the panel.? I have lots of telco 4 conductor cables, used to be in PT&T decades ago and my son just retired from AT&T.? When I get the unit back, I will take it apart and see what sex cable I need.? I did all of the power checks to the PA board and got the main relay to manually key and have 13.8 VDC leaving the relay so all that is good.? ?Thanks. Mel
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 08:31:51 AM PST, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:
Go to wal Mart and bring the cable with you. Hold the ends together and look at the color arrangement. Get a 4 conductor phone cable off the shelf and look for the same arrangement end to end. You didn't say if you were using a separation kit on the radio. The cable they supply is just a phone cable. I ran a couple of the radios over the years in my company truck and turned them on in the morning and off at night and through rough dirty conditions with no problems.? Did you check the power cables to see if you are providing? power and a ground. Good Luck K3CLT Chuck Tobias
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 10:11:11 AM EST, Mel Farrer via Groups.Io <farrerfolks@...> wrote:
No, Chuck,? Don't have a clue as to where to get one..... Mel, K6KBE
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 06:10:42 AM EST, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:
Did you try replacing the short cable between the head and radio body? K3CLT Chuck Tobias
On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 11:30:42 PM EST, Daniel Gregson <kc7njb@...> wrote:
I had a problem with my 857 not starting, it turned out that the pins in the front panel connector were not all making a connection to the cable pins.? Hope this helps, Dan KC7NJB On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Stu Nutt <stunutt@...> wrote:
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Re: No turn on
Go to wal Mart and bring the cable with you. Hold the ends together and look at the color arrangement. Get a 4 conductor phone cable off the shelf and look for the same arrangement end to end. You didn't say if you were using a separation kit on the radio. The cable they supply is just a phone cable. I ran a couple of the radios over the years in my company truck and turned them on in the morning and off at night and through rough dirty conditions with no problems.? Did you check the power cables to see if you are providing? power and a ground. Good Luck K3CLT Chuck Tobias
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 10:11:11 AM EST, Mel Farrer via Groups.Io <farrerfolks@...> wrote:
No, Chuck,? Don't have a clue as to where to get one..... Mel, K6KBE
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 06:10:42 AM EST, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:
Did you try replacing the short cable between the head and radio body? K3CLT Chuck Tobias
On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 11:30:42 PM EST, Daniel Gregson <kc7njb@...> wrote:
I had a problem with my 857 not starting, it turned out that the pins in the front panel connector were not all making a connection to the cable pins.? Hope this helps, Dan KC7NJB On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Stu Nutt <stunutt@...> wrote:
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Re: No turn on
Mel Farrer
Thanks,? Will look into it when the unit gets back here.? Still in transit..... Holiday traffic.... Mel, K6KBE
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 07:31:37 AM PST, Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@...> wrote:
Base price is probably cheaper directly from Yaesu but unless you are buying other stuff the shipping will eat up any savings. Leonard K. Pennock AD7AS Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure, find that they very rarely lose or fail. On 1/3/20 8:10 AM, Mel Farrer via Groups.Io wrote: > No, Chuck,? Don't have a clue as to where to get one..... > > Mel, K6KBE > > On Friday, January 3, 2020, 06:10:42 AM EST, cltoby600 via Groups.Io > <cltoby600=[email protected]> wrote: > > > Did you try replacing the short cable between the head and radio body? > > K3CLT > Chuck Tobias > > > On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 11:30:42 PM EST, Daniel Gregson > <kc7njb@...> wrote: > > > I had a problem with my 857 not starting, it turned out that the pins in > the front panel connector were not all making a connection to the cable > pins. > > Hope this helps, > > Dan > KC7NJB > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Stu Nutt <stunutt@... > <mailto:stunutt@...>> wrote: > >? ? That's not Engineering; that's like when TV repair was nicknamed >? ? "bottle-swapping" :-( > >? ? Anyway -- you could probably get a _complete_ set of spare boards >? ? (including the control head) for that price by buying a second hand >? ? job=-O > >? ? Stu (G3OCR) > >? ? On 28/12/2019 03:48 pm, Mel Farrer via Groups.Io wrote: >>? ? Well finally sent the radio in for repair and got the estimate >>? ? $871 plus shipping.? NO WAY.? They don't trouble shoot to the >>? ? component level just replace boards.? I would like to know the >>? ? sequence of the turn on in the radio, but the schematic is not >>? ? easy to follow.? Just force keying up the main relay does not turn >>? ? it on.? Sounds like a winter task. >> >>? ? Mel, K6KBE > > > > -- > Dan Gregson > KC7NJB <> > kc7njb@... <mailto:kc7njb@...> > |
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Re: No turn on
Base price is probably cheaper directly from Yaesu but unless you are buying other stuff the shipping will eat up any savings.
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Leonard K. Pennock AD7AS Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure, find that they very rarely lose or fail. On 1/3/20 8:10 AM, Mel Farrer via Groups.Io wrote:
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Re: No turn on
Mel Farrer
No, Chuck,? Don't have a clue as to where to get one..... Mel, K6KBE
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 06:10:42 AM EST, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:
Did you try replacing the short cable between the head and radio body? K3CLT Chuck Tobias
On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 11:30:42 PM EST, Daniel Gregson <kc7njb@...> wrote:
I had a problem with my 857 not starting, it turned out that the pins in the front panel connector were not all making a connection to the cable pins.? Hope this helps, Dan KC7NJB On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Stu Nutt <stunutt@...> wrote:
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Re: No turn on
Did you try replacing the short cable between the head and radio body? K3CLT Chuck Tobias
On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 11:30:42 PM EST, Daniel Gregson <kc7njb@...> wrote:
I had a problem with my 857 not starting, it turned out that the pins in the front panel connector were not all making a connection to the cable pins.? Hope this helps, Dan KC7NJB On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Stu Nutt <stunutt@...> wrote:
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Re: RadioECU 4.3 CATDisplay info?
Merlin, K3MEJ
I use the original Cat Display from New Zealand which I like very much. I believe you get more information on it than the Chinese one and it cost less too. It's made by a Ham who's name is Chris Day. There are several YouTube videos on it. He is one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxfVfFTzEXo
A word of advise they both use the cat port so you will not be able use your LDG tuner at the same time. Here is the ebay link. Merlin K3MEJ ? |
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Re: No turn on
Daniel Gregson
I had a problem with my 857 not starting, it turned out that the pins in the front panel connector were not all making a connection to the cable pins.? Hope this helps, Dan KC7NJB On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Stu Nutt <stunutt@...> wrote:
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Re: Delayed RX after TX
Each band seems to have its own memory slot. I wondered if this is every band or a single band.
Another trick is to use the cloning facility from a known good radio and see if that fixes things. All the settings will get copied over. I used the RT Systems software before any change of settings and copied the lot to a new file called Original. With this in mind, I can mess with all the setting and not care if I mess up the correct settings. When messed up all I do is clone the Original file back into the radio. The radio is now again factory fresh. When I get the radio as I like it I again save the cloned file with the date in the name. I friend asked about all the settings so I emailed him the settings file (European UK for me). As for the service menu, I keep myself out of there. I suspect the service menu is cloned along with all the other settings in one big file. |
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Re: Delayed RX after TX
Tks for the suggestion, Joe. No, I'm not using an amplified speaker. I use only a set of plain vanilla headphones when my XYL is home and nothing if she's out.
This symptom appears to affect the RF side as opposed to AF. When it occurs and the signal is reduced, the audio output is still there; whatever signal is in the passband is reduced in strength for several seconds before gradually returning to its pre-TX level. I've experimented with all three DSP settings (DNR, DNF, and DBF) as well as the AGC settings (Fast, Slow, Auto, Off). The Menu Modes affecting DSP (#45 - #49) have never been changed and are verified to be at the factory default settings. 73/HNY, Jim, ND9M |
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Re: Delayed RX after TX
Thanks Paul. Menu Mode #s 87 and 88 address VOX delay and VOX gain respectively, not on or off. I've never been in the Service menu list; how do the band-selective VOX settings get accessed? Please point me in the right direction, and I'll check them if only for giggles.
Also the symptom continues to be intermittent. If there was a soft on/off setting that somehow got enabled, I would think that it would be a consistent symptom. |
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