[SOLVED] Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch [SOLVED]
Cliff, W3KKO, you are a genius. I don't care what anyone says about
you. Thank you.
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That seems to be the only thing I did not try. Removing the CAT
(either from the radio or the PC) fixed the issue. Now why didn't Yaesu put
that into in the manual. Because no one bothered to put it in the test
documents.
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OK... so after all this time I am now able to access the
repeater. It was not an antenna issue (I thought that all along because the HT
was doing things the 857D was not). I was not a CTCSS deviation or level issue.
It was a CAT cable connected to the PC that was the issue. If the PC is off
then one does not need to remove the CAT cable. Or, if one wants to keep the
CAT cable on wants to use the PC/Radio, then one need to go to menu item 20:
CAT/LIN/TUN and change it to LIN or TUN.
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Thanks again, Cliff. And again, thanks to everyone who has
helped.
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Thanks,
Brian D
KF6BL
SV Takara
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Re: FT-857D and a mobile amplifier
I solved this issue with my ALS-500 by installing the AD5X relay conversion. The open frame relay used in some of the Ameritron amps is extremely slow in some cases. Simple to build and install the near QSK speed conversion and turns the ALS500 and the older ALS600 with the same relay into the amp that should have been shipped from the factory. Good Luck with it! 73, AG7K
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hOW DO YOU HAVE THE RADIO AND ANTENNAS GROUNDED?
K3CLT
Chuck Tobias
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IF the Amp allows remote Key for PTT I would key the Amp first then
the radio that way you don't trip the alarm. Also Check out Page 16
of your manual and make sure you have the right settings with the
right cables.
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Good morning everyone,?
I've been trying to make a FT-857D play nice with an
Ameritron ALS-500M mobile amplifier in my Dodge Journey
for SSB phone contacts, mostly 40 meter net check-ins
while I commute from northern Ohio to Southfield,
Michigan and back several days/week.? Some background
first:? My 857-D and amplifier are powered by three 100
amp hour 12V batteries recharged from a 100W solar panel
on the roof of the vehicle.? I have had this setup for
several years now and alternately have been using both
the Alinco DX-70 and the FT-857D, just without the
amplifier, and both radios work just fine.? So here is
the issue, a few months ago I purchased the mobile
amplifier.? When I connected the Alinco DX-70 radio to
the amp with a relay cable, it keyed the amp fine with
the stock hand mic and I could push 300+ watts out the
Tarheel screwdriver antenna by driving 50 watts from the
Alinco.? The older Alinco radio has miserable noise
filtering in the mobile, so after a week I replaced the
Alinco with the 857D to drive the amp.? But with the
FT-857D, the amp goes into alarm mode as soon as I key
the hand mic; it doesn't matter if I'm driving the amp
with FM or SSB, and as little as 5 watts from the 857
into the amp will send the amp into alarm.? Ameritron
says that a delay is needed because the amp is getting
RF before it's relay goes into TX, hence the alarm to
protect the amp.? So maybe the Alinco had just enough
delay......(?)? ?By the way I have not posted this in
the Ameritron - Amps group yet.? Thanks, Matt KD8NCP,
Sylvania, OH
Posted by: Matthew McCloskey
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Re: FT-857D and a mobile amplifier
hOW DO YOU HAVE THE RADIO AND ANTENNAS GROUNDED?
K3CLT
Chuck Tobias
On Saturday, June 22, 2019, 08:06:36 AM EDT, Brad nk8j@... [FT-857] wrote:
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IF the Amp allows remote Key for PTT I would key the Amp first then
the radio that way you don't trip the alarm. Also Check out Page 16
of your manual and make sure you have the right settings with the
right cables.
?
Good morning everyone,?
I've been trying to make a FT-857D play nice with an
Ameritron ALS-500M mobile amplifier in my Dodge Journey
for SSB phone contacts, mostly 40 meter net check-ins
while I commute from northern Ohio to Southfield,
Michigan and back several days/week.? Some background
first:? My 857-D and amplifier are powered by three 100
amp hour 12V batteries recharged from a 100W solar panel
on the roof of the vehicle.? I have had this setup for
several years now and alternately have been using both
the Alinco DX-70 and the FT-857D, just without the
amplifier, and both radios work just fine.? So here is
the issue, a few months ago I purchased the mobile
amplifier.? When I connected the Alinco DX-70 radio to
the amp with a relay cable, it keyed the amp fine with
the stock hand mic and I could push 300+ watts out the
Tarheel screwdriver antenna by driving 50 watts from the
Alinco.? The older Alinco radio has miserable noise
filtering in the mobile, so after a week I replaced the
Alinco with the 857D to drive the amp.? But with the
FT-857D, the amp goes into alarm mode as soon as I key
the hand mic; it doesn't matter if I'm driving the amp
with FM or SSB, and as little as 5 watts from the 857
into the amp will send the amp into alarm.? Ameritron
says that a delay is needed because the amp is getting
RF before it's relay goes into TX, hence the alarm to
protect the amp.? So maybe the Alinco had just enough
delay......(?)? ?By the way I have not posted this in
the Ameritron - Amps group yet.? Thanks, Matt KD8NCP,
Sylvania, OH
Posted by: Matthew McCloskey
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Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch
New observation. If I use a tone generator that is online, and use that to key the radio, the repeater opens. If I have to tone generator level loud enough, I can hear and compare the tone from the radio. It appears that the tone from the radio is lower in frequency. So I am wondering if by chance there is an adjustment I can make or if I have to send it away for this adjustment.
My setup that made the work temporarily is...
PC to Signalink USB Sound Card
Signalink to 857D
Set tone generator to 107.2Hz
Keying the tone generator keys the radio
Unkey and the repeater opens and I get the usual voice and cw info. I made sure that no one was using the repeater first. I found this by accident when playing with the tone generator I forgot to turn off the Signalink.
So now it is looking like a CTCSS frequency issues. Using the HT on the input I can hear CTCSS tone from the radio, weak, but I hear it.
Again, thanks for everyone's help
Brian D
KF6BL
S/V Takara
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Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch
1, move the antenna 1/2 wavelenth towards or away from the repeater direction. It may be at the "null".
2, did you use a watt meter in line to determine if there is any power output?
3, program a radio with the tone squelch on the rx side to prove if the 857 is tx'ing the PL code.
Tony
VA7TF? VE7ACF
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Put up the vertical dipole. Using the antenna analyzer I have an SWR of 1.5:1 over 5MHz. Using the HT as a baseline test I was able to access the repeater on low power without issues. Connecting to the VHF antenna port on the 857D it was a no go. So I reprogrammed the radio for simplex with tone on the uplink frequency of 146.13MHz and tone 107.2. Using the HT as a receiver I keyed the 857D. No love from the repeater.
To answer some questions that I am recalling from memory. Yes, I do see the radio switching frequencies when I key the mic. Yes. I am using the correct antenna port, but I have to admit that I checked. I currently have a 106.5' antenna connected via an MFJ Smart Tuner on the HF port.
For the life of me I still do not understand why I cannot access the repeater with this radio when my HT sitting right next to the radio can.
At this time if I had purchased the radio I would be selling it. However, it was a Christmas gift from my wife after by beloved TS-50S died. So, I must keep it.
The parameters again are
Mode = FM
Shift = 600KHz
Shift = - (minus)
Tone = 107.2 on both R and T
ARS = ON
Tfreq = 146.130
Rfreq = 146.730
Tfreq displayed on keydown = yes
TEN Displayed = yes
(-) Displayed = yes
Power = 5W up to 30W
Ant = Vertical Dipole
SWR = 1.5:1
So there we have it. HT keys repeater with the same antenna on 1W but 857D does not key the repeater with 5W~30W. I must conclude that the 857D is possibly NOT transmitting the tone.
You guys have been a great help and I truly appreciate all your input.
Brian D
KF6BL
S/V Takara
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Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch
Thanks, I'll look into the deviation and mic gain.
Tests last night of resetting the processor in the 857D resulted in no change. After about 5 resets and manual configuration on VHF with TEN and without, the 857D could not break the squelch of the HT, even if the HT is in a different part of the house. So unless there is something else, this 857D is not working correctly. Maybe I will remove the jumpers installed for the MARS/CAP mod and reset the radio again.
Again, thanks to everyone for your help.
Brian D
KF6BL
S/V Takara
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Re: FT-857D and a mobile amplifier
Try unplugging all plugs from the rear of the rig, not including power and your VHF antenna.? Turn the rig off, wait a minute, then back on. After checking that all your repeater settings are correct, try keying up the repeater at 5w.? If using the HTs antenna on the 857D I'm not sure I'd go much over 5w.? Anyway, my 857D, a 2016 model,? would not hit a repeater with din plug inserted for some reason, but without that plug inserted it's fine.? It also works fine on vhf/uhf while connected to the YT100 and Z11Pro 2 tuners, which of course is a different socket. Yaesu couldn't explain it.? Also while doing this see if the beep tone changes between turning it on with and without the amp or ptt din plugged in. Mine does.? Cliff W3KKO
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On Saturday, June 22, 2019 mmccloskey5527 <FT-857@...> wrote:
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No, the PTT is not cabled to the amp.? Right now I'm using the CAT/Linear miniDIN port with an RCA male plug connected to the amp Relay port for TX/GND keying.? When the hand mic is used, the relay in the amp switches between TX and RX.??
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Re: FT-857D and a mobile amplifier
IF the Amp allows remote Key for PTT I would key the Amp first then
the radio that way you don't trip the alarm. Also Check out Page 16
of your manual and make sure you have the right settings with the
right cables.
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Good morning everyone,?
I've been trying to make a FT-857D play nice with an
Ameritron ALS-500M mobile amplifier in my Dodge Journey
for SSB phone contacts, mostly 40 meter net check-ins
while I commute from northern Ohio to Southfield,
Michigan and back several days/week.? Some background
first:? My 857-D and amplifier are powered by three 100
amp hour 12V batteries recharged from a 100W solar panel
on the roof of the vehicle.? I have had this setup for
several years now and alternately have been using both
the Alinco DX-70 and the FT-857D, just without the
amplifier, and both radios work just fine.? So here is
the issue, a few months ago I purchased the mobile
amplifier.? When I connected the Alinco DX-70 radio to
the amp with a relay cable, it keyed the amp fine with
the stock hand mic and I could push 300+ watts out the
Tarheel screwdriver antenna by driving 50 watts from the
Alinco.? The older Alinco radio has miserable noise
filtering in the mobile, so after a week I replaced the
Alinco with the 857D to drive the amp.? But with the
FT-857D, the amp goes into alarm mode as soon as I key
the hand mic; it doesn't matter if I'm driving the amp
with FM or SSB, and as little as 5 watts from the 857
into the amp will send the amp into alarm.? Ameritron
says that a delay is needed because the amp is getting
RF before it's relay goes into TX, hence the alarm to
protect the amp.? So maybe the Alinco had just enough
delay......(?)? ?By the way I have not posted this in
the Ameritron - Amps group yet.? Thanks, Matt KD8NCP,
Sylvania, OH
Posted by: Matthew McCloskey
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Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch
Sounds like a real puzzle. I wonder if the deviation is set too high in your 857. If, for example, you are somehow set for wideband FM then you will have a deviation of your FM carrier that is out of the passband of the repeater and you will be "invisible". A factory reset should correct that, but it also may help to look into the service menu to see what it is. We used to have trouble on a local repeater when some folks had their mic gain to high and they would drop right out on voice peaks, and the same may be happening with your tone encoding.
73, =Vic= WA4THR
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Re: FT-857D and a mobile amplifier
No, the PTT is not cabled to the amp.? Right now I'm using the CAT/Linear miniDIN port with an RCA male plug connected to the amp Relay port for TX/GND keying.? When the hand mic is used, the relay in the amp switches between TX and RX.??
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Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch
If you have access to a Service Monitor check the no-mod tone only deviation, should be around 0.7KHz if it is transmitting the tone.
Mitch N4MF
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Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch
Brian, have you tried to use any other 2m or 70cm frequency to communicate on with the 857D. It sounds as if, possibly, you are not transmitting out of the 2m/70cm side of the radio. You can check this by contacting a friend on these bands using the 857D. If you are able to do this, then it would appear that you have a problem with the 857D's tone generator. If you can not, I would start by checking the finals on the 2m/70cm portion of the radio.
James B Stafford AJ5BS
On Friday, June 21, 2019, 6:13:03 PM CDT, David Ranch yft950@... [FT-857] wrote:
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Hello Brian,
Thanks for the comprehensive details and it seems like you're
doing things well.? I only have a few more thoughts:
?? - You mentioned you tried turning the HT to act like repeater
(same frequency, tone, tone *squelch*) but you then said "no love
from the repeater".? Did you mean no love from the "HT"??? If that
doesn't work, it sounds like you might have an issue with the
FT857.?? Maybe you can try other TONES to see if you get different
results??? I have seen tone level issues on some radios (*cough*
Icom IC92 *cough) where some tones won't work but others will.?
? ? ? NOTE: Using an HT right next to your FT857 can mess with
it's reception as it's too close to the transmitter and thus the
signal is just too strong.? I've seen where the receiver's
frontend will get so saturated that it wouldn't properly decode
the tone and thus break the squelch
?? - On a lark, do a full factory reset on the FT857.? In the
archives here, very weird, quirky thing have been addressed
"magically" by doing a reset.? It's kind of a lame answer but it's
been effective enough not to try it before shipping it back to
Yaesu.
--David
KI6ZHD
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Put up the vertical dipole. Using the antenna analyzer I
have an SWR of 1.5:1 over 5MHz. Using the HT as a baseline
test I was able to access the repeater on low power
without issues. Connecting to the VHF antenna port on the
857D it was a no go. So I reprogrammed the radio for
simplex with tone on the uplink frequency of 146.13MHz and
tone 107.2. Using the HT as a receiver I keyed the 857D.
No love from the repeater.
To answer some questions that I am recalling from memory.
Yes, I do see the radio switching frequencies when I key
the mic. Yes. I am using the correct antenna port, but I
have to admit that I checked. I currently have a 106.5'
antenna connected via an MFJ Smart Tuner on the HF port.
For the life of me I still do not understand why I cannot
access the repeater with this radio when my HT sitting
right next to the radio can.
At this time if I had purchased the radio I would be
selling it. However, it was a Christmas gift from my wife
after by beloved TS-50S died. So, I must keep it.
The parameters again are
Mode = FM
Shift = 600KHz
Shift = - (minus)
Tone = 107.2 on both R and T
ARS = ON
Tfreq = 146.130
Rfreq = 146.730
Tfreq displayed on keydown = yes
TEN Displayed = yes
(-) Displayed = yes
Power = 5W up to 30W
Ant = Vertical Dipole
SWR = 1.5:1
So there we have it. HT keys repeater with the same
antenna on 1W but 857D does not key the repeater with
5W~30W. I must conclude that the 857D is possibly NOT
transmitting the tone.
You guys have been a great help and I truly appreciate all
your input.
Brian D
KF6BL
S/V Takara
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Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch
Thanks Les. That is a great test and I wish I had thought of it before.
The quick answer is no, the 857D with T:107.2 did not open the sql of the HT with a R:107.2 receive CTCSS. So there we go. The issue is the 857D is apparently not transmitting a CTCSS tone.
Next step that was recommended by David KI6ZHD is to do a complete factory reset. I will do this and then try the VHF test again before I reinstall the memories from an image file.
I will report back later. Again, thanks to everyone.
Brian D
KF6BL
S/V Takara
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Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch
Hello Brian,
Thanks for the comprehensive details and it seems like you're
doing things well.? I only have a few more thoughts:
?? - You mentioned you tried turning the HT to act like repeater
(same frequency, tone, tone *squelch*) but you then said "no love
from the repeater".? Did you mean no love from the "HT"??? If that
doesn't work, it sounds like you might have an issue with the
FT857.?? Maybe you can try other TONES to see if you get different
results??? I have seen tone level issues on some radios (*cough*
Icom IC92 *cough) where some tones won't work but others will.?
? ? ? NOTE: Using an HT right next to your FT857 can mess with
it's reception as it's too close to the transmitter and thus the
signal is just too strong.? I've seen where the receiver's
frontend will get so saturated that it wouldn't properly decode
the tone and thus break the squelch
?? - On a lark, do a full factory reset on the FT857.? In the
archives here, very weird, quirky thing have been addressed
"magically" by doing a reset.? It's kind of a lame answer but it's
been effective enough not to try it before shipping it back to
Yaesu.
--David
KI6ZHD
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Put up the vertical dipole. Using the antenna analyzer I
have an SWR of 1.5:1 over 5MHz. Using the HT as a baseline
test I was able to access the repeater on low power
without issues. Connecting to the VHF antenna port on the
857D it was a no go. So I reprogrammed the radio for
simplex with tone on the uplink frequency of 146.13MHz and
tone 107.2. Using the HT as a receiver I keyed the 857D.
No love from the repeater.
To answer some questions that I am recalling from memory.
Yes, I do see the radio switching frequencies when I key
the mic. Yes. I am using the correct antenna port, but I
have to admit that I checked. I currently have a 106.5'
antenna connected via an MFJ Smart Tuner on the HF port.
For the life of me I still do not understand why I cannot
access the repeater with this radio when my HT sitting
right next to the radio can.
At this time if I had purchased the radio I would be
selling it. However, it was a Christmas gift from my wife
after by beloved TS-50S died. So, I must keep it.
The parameters again are
Mode = FM
Shift = 600KHz
Shift = - (minus)
Tone = 107.2 on both R and T
ARS = ON
Tfreq = 146.130
Rfreq = 146.730
Tfreq displayed on keydown = yes
TEN Displayed = yes
(-) Displayed = yes
Power = 5W up to 30W
Ant = Vertical Dipole
SWR = 1.5:1
So there we have it. HT keys repeater with the same
antenna on 1W but 857D does not key the repeater with
5W~30W. I must conclude that the 857D is possibly NOT
transmitting the tone.
You guys have been a great help and I truly appreciate all
your input.
Brian D
KF6BL
S/V Takara
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Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch
One more point about the HT antenna:? it probably gives a very
high SWR for the 857D.? The 857D (like most rigs, especially if
they're capable of running more than a very few watts) is designed
to cut back output power when it detects a mis-matched antenna,
for its own protection.? So, although you have set the rig to
transmit 5 watts, it may have cut back its power significantly
even from that, and be giving only a fraction of that to the
antenna. The HT probably expects a mis-matched antenna most of the
time anyway, so may not be cutting its power back to the same
extent as the 857D.? Just a thought.
?Good luck
???? 73
??????? Darrel, aa7fv.
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What does THIS statement mean?
>>Connecting to the VHF antenna port on the 857D it was a no go.
Why is that? Your VHF antenna for 2 meters NEEDS to be connected to the VHF/UHF port on the FT857 or you have no VHF energy going? anywhere!
I hope that helps and sorry if I misunderstood!
Bry AF4K
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From: FT-857@... on behalf of sv.takara@... [FT-857]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:46
To: FT-857@...
Subject: [FT-857] Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch
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Put up the vertical dipole. Using the antenna analyzer I have an SWR of 1.5:1 over 5MHz. Using the HT as a baseline test I was able to access the repeater on low power without issues. Connecting to the VHF
antenna port on the 857D it was a no go. So I reprogrammed the radio for simplex with tone on the uplink frequency of 146.13MHz and tone 107.2. Using the HT as a receiver I keyed the 857D. No love from the repeater.
To answer some questions that I am recalling from memory. Yes, I do see the radio switching frequencies when I key the mic. Yes. I am using the correct antenna port, but I have to admit that I checked. I currently have a 106.5' antenna connected via an MFJ
Smart Tuner on the HF port.
For the life of me I still do not understand why I cannot access the repeater with this radio when my HT sitting right next to the radio can.
At this time if I had purchased the radio I would be selling it. However, it was a Christmas gift from my wife after by beloved TS-50S died. So, I must keep it.
The parameters again are
Mode = FM
Shift = 600KHz
Shift = - (minus)
Tone = 107.2 on both R and T
ARS = ON
Tfreq = 146.130
Rfreq = 146.730
Tfreq displayed on keydown = yes
TEN Displayed = yes
(-) Displayed = yes
Power = 5W up to 30W
Ant = Vertical Dipole
SWR = 1.5:1
So there we have it. HT keys repeater with the same antenna on 1W but 857D does not key the repeater with 5W~30W. I must conclude that the 857D is possibly NOT transmitting the tone.
You guys have been a great help and I truly appreciate all your input.
Brian D
KF6BL
S/V Takara
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Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch
When you key the 857, dies the HT squelch break?
73,
--Hank
KB4MTO / TA5ZC
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Put up the vertical dipole. Using the antenna analyzer I
have an SWR of 1.5:1 over 5MHz. Using the HT as a baseline
test I was able to access the repeater on low power
without issues. Connecting to the VHF antenna port on the
857D it was a no go. So I reprogrammed the radio for
simplex with tone on the uplink frequency of 146.13MHz and
tone 107.2. Using the HT as a receiver I keyed the 857D.
No love from the repeater.
To answer some questions that I am recalling from memory.
Yes, I do see the radio switching frequencies when I key
the mic. Yes. I am using the correct antenna port, but I
have to admit that I checked. I currently have a 106.5'
antenna connected via an MFJ Smart Tuner on the HF port.
For the life of me I still do not understand why I cannot
access the repeater with this radio when my HT sitting
right next to the radio can.
At this time if I had purchased the radio I would be
selling it. However, it was a Christmas gift from my wife
afte r by beloved TS-50S died. So, I must keep it.
The parameters again are
Mode = FM
Shift = 600KHz
Shift = - (minus)
Tone = 107.2 on both R and T
ARS = ON
Tfreq = 146.130
Rfreq = 146.730
Tfreq displayed on keydown = yes
TEN Displayed = yes
(-) Displayed = yes
Power = 5W up to 30W
Ant = Vertical Dipole
SWR = 1.5:1
So there we have it. HT keys repeater with the same
antenna on 1W but 857D does not key the repeater with
5W~30W. I must conclude that the 857D is possibly NOT
transmitting the tone.
You guys have been a great help and I truly appreciate all
your input.
Brian D
KF6BL
S/V Takara
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Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch
Did you verify that the 857D is producing about the right amount of
RF power?
Can you hear the 857D transmitting when the HT is receiving
146.13?
If yes, try this: Set the HT to receive on 146.13, with tone
squelch set to 107.2.? Then see if you can still hear the 857D on
the HT.? (Normally I'd say use a different freq for testing, but
if you're not opening the repeater you're not interfering....)? If
not, then it would seem the 857D isn't transmitting the tone, at
least not the right one.?
Have you looked at the mic gain setting?? Offhand I don't know if
that effects the tone level, probably not, but worth checking.?
There is an adjustment for the CTCSS tone deviation in the service
menus, but I don't know if I'd mess with it without the test
equipment to properly set it.
How about trying other repeaters?? With that vertical dipole you
should be able to hit repeaters 50+ miles away.?
-Les W6VN
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Put up the vertical dipole. Using the antenna analyzer I
have an SWR of 1.5:1 over 5MHz. Using the HT as a baseline
test I was able to access the repeater on low power
without issues. Connecting to the VHF antenna port on the
857D it was a no go. So I reprogrammed the radio for
simplex with tone on the uplink frequency of 146.13MHz and
tone 107.2. Using the HT as a receiver I keyed the 857D.
No love from the repeater.
To answer some questions that I am recalling from memory.
Yes, I do see the radio switching frequencies when I key
the mic. Yes. I am using the correct antenna port, but I
have to admit that I checked. I currently have a 106.5'
antenna connected via an MFJ Smart Tuner on the HF port.
For the life of me I still do not understand why I cannot
access the repeater with this radio when my HT sitting
right next to the radio can.
At this time if I had purchased the radio I would be
selling it. However, it was a Christmas gift from my !
wife after by beloved TS-50S died. So, I must keep it.
The parameters again are
Mode = FM
Shift = 600KHz
Shift = - (minus)
Tone = 107.2 on both R and T
ARS = ON
Tfreq = 146.130
Rfreq = 146.730
Tfreq displayed on keydown = yes
TEN Displayed = yes
(-) Displayed = yes
Power = 5W up to 30W
Ant = Vertical Dipole
SWR = 1.5:1
So there we have it. HT keys repeater with the same
antenna on 1W but 857D does not key the repeater with
5W~30W. I must conclude that the 857D is possibly NOT
transmitting the tone.
You guys have been a great help and I truly appreciate all
your input.
Brian D
KF6BL
S/V Takara
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Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch
Brian,
Since you have the hand held. Key the 857 and listen on the HT.? Do you hear the tone?? I have a 857 and it accesses the repeaters fine., BUT you have to have all of the RPT/TONE requirements set up perfectly
Hope that helps. Mel, K6KBE
On Friday, June 21, 2019, 02:03:49 PM PDT, sv.takara@... [FT-857] wrote:
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Put up the vertical dipole. Using the antenna analyzer I have an SWR of 1.5:1 over 5MHz. Using the HT as a baseline test I was able to access the repeater on low power without issues. Connecting to the VHF antenna port on the 857D it was a no go. So I reprogrammed the radio for simplex with tone on the uplink frequency of 146.13MHz and tone 107.2. Using the HT as a receiver I keyed the 857D. No love from the repeater.
To answer some questions that I am recalling from memory. Yes, I do see the radio switching frequencies when I key the mic. Yes. I am using the correct antenna port, but I have to admit that I checked. I currently have a 106.5' antenna connected via an MFJ Smart Tuner on the HF port.
For the life of me I still do not understand why I cannot access the repeater with this radio when my HT sitting right next to the radio can.
At this time if I had purchased the radio I would be selling it. However, it was a Christmas gift from my wife after by beloved TS-50S died. So, I must keep it.
The parameters again are
Mode = FM
Shift = 600KHz
Shift = - (minus)
Tone = 107.2 on both R and T
ARS = ON
Tfreq = 146.130
Rfreq = 146.730
Tfreq displayed on keydown = yes
TEN Displayed = yes
(-) Displayed = yes
Power = 5W up to 30W
Ant = Vertical Dipole
SWR = 1.5:1
So there we have it. HT keys repeater with the same antenna on 1W but 857D does not key the repeater with 5W~30W. I must conclude that the 857D is possibly NOT transmitting the tone.
You guys have been a great help and I truly appreciate all your input.
Brian D
KF6BL
S/V Takara
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Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch
I was once told half a century ago by an old timer, "It does not matter if you have the latest expensive radio or a battered homemade thing, both will be equally humbled for the lack of a decent antenna system.".
With the FT857 on 2 or 70, you need a
You also need decent coaxial cable
Also the plugs.
That will make the FT857 get out on 2 and 70. If you are high up and in the clear you may make 35 to 40 miles on FM.
It works for me. DX anyone on VHF or UHF?
73
Paul G. Chapman MInstLM G4IJL ?
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Vic WA4THR
James Stafford