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Re: FT857D replaced with a 891

 

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Most likely not power pole issue



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: Don Eklund <n1edf@...>
Date: 11/12/22 4:22 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [FT-857] FT857D replaced with a 891

The voltage is 13.8 in my truck.??? I willtry replacing the power poles again.???? It draws 23 amps the same the 857 which does not have this issue.?

Thanks

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jack W4GRJ
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 3:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FT-857] FT857D replaced with a 891

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monitor power supply voltage when radio turns off or try a different power supply or battery….eliminate power source as problem before suspecting radio

Jack

W4GRJ

><))):>


On Nov 12, 2022, at 3:47 PM, Don Eklund <n1edf@...> wrote:

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I thought of that but I am use 45 amp power poles???

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jack W4GRJ
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 3:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FT-857] FT857D replaced with a 891

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Power supply, power connection


On Nov 12, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Don Eklund <n1edf@...> wrote:

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I replaced my 857 with a 891 same setup.?? But when I transmit above 5 watts, the radio shuts off and back on again.??? I put in two chokes on the power lead and it didn’t make any different.??

?

You guy got any ideas?

?

73, Don

N1EDF

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Re: FT857D replaced with a 891

 

Try transmitting at lower power and see if it has any problems. If it doesn't then check the voltage at the DC connector going into the radio and make sure you are getting excessive Voltage drop under load. Your symptoms matches what my FT950 which is only rate at -10% (compared to the -15% your rated for) does when I exceed 40W on battery.



Leonard K. Pennock
AD7AS

Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.

On 11/12/22 14:22, Don Eklund wrote:
The voltage is 13.8 in my truck.??? I willtry replacing the power poles again.???? It draws 23 amps the same the 857 which does not have this issue.
Thanks
*From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Jack W4GRJ
*Sent:* Saturday, November 12, 2022 3:51 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [FT-857] FT857D replaced with a 891
monitor power supply voltage when radio turns off or try a different power supply or battery….eliminate power source as problem before suspecting radio
Jack
W4GRJ

><))):>
On Nov 12, 2022, at 3:47 PM, Don Eklund <n1edf@... <mailto:n1edf@...>> wrote:
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I thought of that but I am use 45 amp power poles
*From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of *Jack W4GRJ
*Sent:* Saturday, November 12, 2022 3:16 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [FT-857] FT857D replaced with a 891
Power supply, power connection
On Nov 12, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Don Eklund <n1edf@... <mailto:n1edf@...>> wrote:
?
I replaced my 857 with a 891 same setup.?? But when I transmit above 5 watts, the radio shuts off and back on again.??? I put in two chokes on the power lead and it didn’t make any different.
You guy got any ideas?
73, Don
N1EDF


Re: FT857D replaced with a 891

 

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Brand new from HRO?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard Schnedorf via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 3:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FT-857] FT857D replaced with a 891

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Are you using new unite or are these used 2nd units? Maybe you have bad transceivers.

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 02:51:01 PM CST, Jack W4GRJ <w4grj@...> wrote:

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monitor power supply voltage when radio turns off or try a different power supply or battery….eliminate power source as problem before suspecting radio

Jack

W4GRJ

><))):>


On Nov 12, 2022, at 3:47 PM, Don Eklund <n1edf@...> wrote:

?

I thought of that but I am use 45 amp power poles???

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jack W4GRJ
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 3:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FT-857] FT857D replaced with a 891

?

Power supply, power connection


On Nov 12, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Don Eklund <n1edf@...> wrote:

?

I replaced my 857 with a 891 same setup.?? But when I transmit above 5 watts, the radio shuts off and back on again.??? I put in two chokes on the power lead and it didn’t make any different.??

?

You guy got any ideas?

?

73, Don

N1EDF

?


Re: FT857D replaced with a 891

 

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The voltage is 13.8 in my truck.??? I willtry replacing the power poles again.???? It draws 23 amps the same the 857 which does not have this issue.?

Thanks

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jack W4GRJ
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 3:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FT-857] FT857D replaced with a 891

?

monitor power supply voltage when radio turns off or try a different power supply or battery….eliminate power source as problem before suspecting radio

Jack

W4GRJ

><))):>


On Nov 12, 2022, at 3:47 PM, Don Eklund <n1edf@...> wrote:

?

I thought of that but I am use 45 amp power poles???

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jack W4GRJ
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 3:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FT-857] FT857D replaced with a 891

?

Power supply, power connection


On Nov 12, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Don Eklund <n1edf@...> wrote:

?

I replaced my 857 with a 891 same setup.?? But when I transmit above 5 watts, the radio shuts off and back on again.??? I put in two chokes on the power lead and it didn’t make any different.??

?

You guy got any ideas?

?

73, Don

N1EDF

?


Re: FT857D replaced with a 891

 

Are you using new unite or are these used 2nd units? Maybe you have bad transceivers.
On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 02:51:01 PM CST, Jack W4GRJ <w4grj@...> wrote:


monitor power supply voltage when radio turns off or try a different power supply or battery….eliminate power source as problem before suspecting radio
Jack
W4GRJ

><))):>

On Nov 12, 2022, at 3:47 PM, Don Eklund <n1edf@...> wrote:

?

I thought of that but I am use 45 amp power poles???

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jack W4GRJ
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 3:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FT-857] FT857D replaced with a 891

?

Power supply, power connection


On Nov 12, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Don Eklund <n1edf@...> wrote:

?

I replaced my 857 with a 891 same setup.?? But when I transmit above 5 watts, the radio shuts off and back on again.??? I put in two chokes on the power lead and it didn’t make any different.??

?

You guy got any ideas?

?

73, Don

N1EDF

?


Re: FT857D replaced with a 891

 

开云体育

monitor power supply voltage when radio turns off or try a different power supply or battery….eliminate power source as problem before suspecting radio
Jack
W4GRJ

><))):>

On Nov 12, 2022, at 3:47 PM, Don Eklund <n1edf@...> wrote:

?

I thought of that but I am use 45 amp power poles???

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jack W4GRJ
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 3:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FT-857] FT857D replaced with a 891

?

Power supply, power connection


On Nov 12, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Don Eklund <n1edf@...> wrote:

?

I replaced my 857 with a 891 same setup.?? But when I transmit above 5 watts, the radio shuts off and back on again.??? I put in two chokes on the power lead and it didn’t make any different.??

?

You guy got any ideas?

?

73, Don

N1EDF

?


Re: FT857D replaced with a 891

 

开云体育

I thought of that but I am use 45 amp power poles???

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jack W4GRJ
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 3:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FT-857] FT857D replaced with a 891

?

Power supply, power connection


On Nov 12, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Don Eklund <n1edf@...> wrote:

?

I replaced my 857 with a 891 same setup.?? But when I transmit above 5 watts, the radio shuts off and back on again.??? I put in two chokes on the power lead and it didn’t make any different.??

?

You guy got any ideas?

?

73, Don

N1EDF

?


Re: FT857D replaced with a 891

 

开云体育

Power supply, power connection

On Nov 12, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Don Eklund <n1edf@...> wrote:

?

I replaced my 857 with a 891 same setup.?? But when I transmit above 5 watts, the radio shuts off and back on again.??? I put in two chokes on the power lead and it didn’t make any different.??

?

You guy got any ideas?

?

73, Don

N1EDF

?


Re: FT857D replaced with a 891

 

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I replaced my 857 with a 891 same setup.?? But when I transmit above 5 watts, the radio shuts off and back on again.??? I put in two chokes on the power lead and it didn’t make any different.??

?

You guy got any ideas?

?

73, Don

N1EDF

?


Re: FT857D receive on 80 Mts. #noice

 

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I couldn't agree more!

--Hank
KB4MTO / TA5ZC


On November 11, 2022 9:26:55 AM EST, "HB via groups.io" <hbjr@...> wrote:
Mice are easier to find and kill than noise!!

Hank
K4HYJ?

On Nov 11, 2022, at 9:23 AM, Hank Lambert (KB4MTO) <hank@...> wrote:

?Geez... noise, not mouse. Autocorrect has fun with words again ?

--Hank


On November 11, 2022 9:15:15 AM EST, "Hank Lambert (KB4MTO)" <hank@...> wrote:
Hissing could be a lot of things, such as electric fences, bad power supplies, bad fluorescent ballasts, and many other things.

The 1st thing I would do is unplug the antenna. If it goes away, it's probably not your radio or a power issue coming in on the power cable.

If it doesn't go away, then I would kill the power to the house and start turning things on 1 breaker at a time. If the mouse is coming from your home, that will help you identify what it is.

Hope this helps.

73,

--Hank
KB4MTO / TA5ZC


On November 10, 2022 11:19:11 PM EST, Easwaran Unni Tharakkal VU2TE <unnitharakkal@...> wrote:
Recently my 857D started giving too much noise on 80 Mts since few months. Is it due to condx.? or any thing related to the rig ? I tryed instaling a new ZS6BKW. still no use
It is a type of hissing noise. TX report from the other end is 59 to 59+. What can be the cause. Request suggestions
Thanking you all in advance
VU2TE
Unni?


Re: FT857D receive on 80 Mts. #noice

 

Thank you Hank for the reply
Will try to check one by one. But if it is from the home it should give on all bands ? This is only for 80 mtrs. Any will go behind it. Thats what we hams do HI.
73s regards
Unni
VU2TE

On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 7:45 PM Hank Lambert (KB4MTO) <hank@...> wrote:
Hissing could be a lot of things, such as electric fences, bad power supplies, bad fluorescent ballasts, and many other things.

The 1st thing I would do is unplug the antenna. If it goes away, it's probably not your radio or a power issue coming in on the power cable.

If it doesn't go away, then I would kill the power to the house and start turning things on 1 breaker at a time. If the mouse is coming from your home, that will help you identify what it is.

Hope this helps.

73,

--Hank
KB4MTO / TA5ZC


On November 10, 2022 11:19:11 PM EST, Easwaran Unni Tharakkal VU2TE <unnitharakkal@...> wrote:
Recently my 857D started giving too much noise on 80 Mts since few months. Is it due to condx.? or any thing related to the rig ? I tryed instaling a new ZS6BKW. still no use
It is a type of hissing noise. TX report from the other end is 59 to 59+. What can be the cause. Request suggestions
Thanking you all in advance
VU2TE
Unni?


Re: HELP: Hidden/Service menu: I'm trapped

 

Don't fiddle with the buttons, unless you a musician.
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 01:24:11 PM CST, la6gh <la6gh.no@...> wrote:


I've no idea how it happened, but I somehow entered the service menu without realizing it.
At first I was stuck, unable to exit it (because I didn't understand what was going on .....)
Eventually I tried a Factory reset [Home]+Power with sad results.
The radio is now in limbo,?not responding to any Knobs except Power and the Select Knob
which changes the displayed?frequency
I've tried to enter the Service menu [A+B+C]+Power and then exit with the Func key as described
on the Net. But to no avail !

Any suggestions, anyone?

73 de LA6GH
Nils


Re: HELP: Hidden/Service menu: I'm trapped

 

CHIRP does not back up the hidden menu. The only way I've dealt with them is to store all the values in a spreadsheet when I buy the radio, then set them to that value if they somehow get changed.

73, Zack W9SZ

On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 1:32 PM Jack W4GRJ <w4grj@...> wrote:
If by chance did you ever back up radio with rtsystems or chirp
..if yes try to restore
Good luck
Jack
W4grj



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: la6gh <la6gh.no@...>
Date: 11/11/22 2:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [FT-857] HELP: Hidden/Service menu: I'm trapped

I've no idea how it happened, but I somehow entered the service menu without realizing it.
At first I was stuck, unable to exit it (because I didn't understand what was going on .....)
Eventually I tried a Factory reset [Home]+Power with sad results.
The radio is now in limbo,?not responding to any Knobs except Power and the Select Knob
which changes the displayed?frequency
I've tried to enter the Service menu [A+B+C]+Power and then exit with the Func key as described
on the Net. But to no avail !

Any suggestions, anyone?

73 de LA6GH
Nils


Re: HELP: Hidden/Service menu: I'm trapped

 

Also menu 54 sets what is locked by the lock button.

Leonard K. Pennock
AD7AS

Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.

On 11/11/22 12:45, Leonard K. Pennock wrote:
Did you do engage the lock Key (right side below the V/M key)?? Lock icon in bottom right of screen looks like a building with a flag will be on if you did.
Leonard K. Pennock
AD7AS
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
On 11/11/22 12:09, la6gh wrote:
I've no idea how it happened, but I somehow entered the service menu without realizing it.
At first I was stuck, unable to exit it (because I didn't understand what was going on .....)
Eventually I tried a Factory reset [Home]+Power with sad results.
*The radio is now in limbo,?not responding to any Knobs except Power and the Select Knob *
*which changes the displayed?frequency*
I've tried to enter the Service menu [A+B+C]+Power and then exit with the Func key as described
on the Net. But to no avail !

Any suggestions, anyone?

73 de LA6GH
Nils


Re: HELP: Hidden/Service menu: I'm trapped

 

Did you do engage the lock Key (right side below the V/M key)? Lock icon in bottom right of screen looks like a building with a flag will be on if you did.

Leonard K. Pennock
AD7AS

Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.

On 11/11/22 12:09, la6gh wrote:
I've no idea how it happened, but I somehow entered the service menu without realizing it.
At first I was stuck, unable to exit it (because I didn't understand what was going on .....)
Eventually I tried a Factory reset [Home]+Power with sad results.
*The radio is now in limbo,?not responding to any Knobs except Power and the Select Knob *
*which changes the displayed?frequency*
I've tried to enter the Service menu [A+B+C]+Power and then exit with the Func key as described
on the Net. But to no avail !
Any suggestions, anyone?
73 de LA6GH
Nils


Re: HELP: Hidden/Service menu: I'm trapped

 

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If by chance did you ever back up radio with rtsystems or chirp
..if yes try to restore
Good luck
Jack
W4grj



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: la6gh <la6gh.no@...>
Date: 11/11/22 2:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [FT-857] HELP: Hidden/Service menu: I'm trapped

I've no idea how it happened, but I somehow entered the service menu without realizing it.
At first I was stuck, unable to exit it (because I didn't understand what was going on .....)
Eventually I tried a Factory reset [Home]+Power with sad results.
The radio is now in limbo,?not responding to any Knobs except Power and the Select Knob
which changes the displayed?frequency
I've tried to enter the Service menu [A+B+C]+Power and then exit with the Func key as described
on the Net. But to no avail !

Any suggestions, anyone?

73 de LA6GH
Nils


HELP: Hidden/Service menu: I'm trapped

la6gh
 

I've no idea how it happened, but I somehow entered the service menu without realizing it.
At first I was stuck, unable to exit it (because I didn't understand what was going on .....)
Eventually I tried a Factory reset [Home]+Power with sad results.
The radio is now in limbo,?not responding to any Knobs except Power and the Select Knob
which changes the displayed?frequency
I've tried to enter the Service menu [A+B+C]+Power and then exit with the Func key as described
on the Net. But to no avail !

Any suggestions, anyone?

73 de LA6GH
Nils


Re: FT857D receive on 80 Mts. #noice

 

The original post title says "noice," which is a term a lot of people use to mean "nice." :-)

Zack W9SZ


On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 8:23 AM Hank Lambert (KB4MTO) <hank@...> wrote:
Geez... noise, not mouse. Autocorrect has fun with words again ?

--Hank


On November 11, 2022 9:15:15 AM EST, "Hank Lambert (KB4MTO)" <hank@...> wrote:
Hissing could be a lot of things, such as electric fences, bad power supplies, bad fluorescent ballasts, and many other things.

The 1st thing I would do is unplug the antenna. If it goes away, it's probably not your radio or a power issue coming in on the power cable.

If it doesn't go away, then I would kill the power to the house and start turning things on 1 breaker at a time. If the mouse is coming from your home, that will help you identify what it is.

Hope this helps.

73,

--Hank
KB4MTO / TA5ZC


On November 10, 2022 11:19:11 PM EST, Easwaran Unni Tharakkal VU2TE <unnitharakkal@...> wrote:
Recently my 857D started giving too much noise on 80 Mts since few months. Is it due to condx.? or any thing related to the rig ? I tryed instaling a new ZS6BKW. still no use
It is a type of hissing noise. TX report from the other end is 59 to 59+. What can be the cause. Request suggestions
Thanking you all in advance
VU2TE
Unni?


Re: FT857D receive on 80 Mts. #noice

 

Proof-reading is a lost art.

73,
Kent
K9ZTV

On Nov 11, 2022, at 8:26 AM, Hank Lambert (KB4MTO) <hank@...> wrote:

?Geez... noise, not mouse. Autocorrect has fun with words again ?


Re: FT857D receive on 80 Mts. #noice

 

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Mice are easier to find and kill than noise!!

Hank
K4HYJ?

On Nov 11, 2022, at 9:23 AM, Hank Lambert (KB4MTO) <hank@...> wrote:

?Geez... noise, not mouse. Autocorrect has fun with words again ?

--Hank


On November 11, 2022 9:15:15 AM EST, "Hank Lambert (KB4MTO)" <hank@...> wrote:
Hissing could be a lot of things, such as electric fences, bad power supplies, bad fluorescent ballasts, and many other things.

The 1st thing I would do is unplug the antenna. If it goes away, it's probably not your radio or a power issue coming in on the power cable.

If it doesn't go away, then I would kill the power to the house and start turning things on 1 breaker at a time. If the mouse is coming from your home, that will help you identify what it is.

Hope this helps.

73,

--Hank
KB4MTO / TA5ZC


On November 10, 2022 11:19:11 PM EST, Easwaran Unni Tharakkal VU2TE <unnitharakkal@...> wrote:
Recently my 857D started giving too much noise on 80 Mts since few months. Is it due to condx.? or any thing related to the rig ? I tryed instaling a new ZS6BKW. still no use
It is a type of hissing noise. TX report from the other end is 59 to 59+. What can be the cause. Request suggestions
Thanking you all in advance
VU2TE
Unni?