I have seen the HI-Q mounted on the front side of the bed.? On my GMC, there was enough room on the front of the tool box to allow me to mount a 1/2" thick x 5 " wide X 2-1/2' tall aluminum plate.? I then mounted the base there at the top so the coil was well above the cab.? Yes, I had to put a brace to the opposite side of the bed.?Yes, I ran a ground strap to the frame.
Mel, K6KBE
On Saturday, January 18, 2020, 12:31:23 PM EST, jnmeade2001 <jnmeade@...> wrote:
I am thinking of putting my old FT857D in my new Ram 2020 1500 pickup.? I occasionally pull a trailer using the receiver.? I have a front fender mount for the 2m antenna so the VHF is not an issue.? I have an Hi-Q 5-80 HF antenna that I haven't been using.? Any suggestions on where to mount it?? I have the RamBox and the bed is lined with the spray on stuff.? Whether I use the Hi-Q, which is insanely tall, or not, the question remains where to put the mount.? I'm not crazy about putting the mount in the bed because then my tonneau cover couldn't close.? I don't mind holes in the truck.
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Mounting FT857D in Ram 2020 1500
I have a 2020 Ram 1500 Big Horn big cab with console.? Any suggestions on where to put the FT857D?? I intend to install both an HF and VHF antenna.? The HF will be a Hi-Q 5-80.? I expect I'll need to use the detachable head.??
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I am thinking of putting my old FT857D in my new Ram 2020 1500 pickup.? I occasionally pull a trailer using the receiver.? I have a front fender mount for the 2m antenna so the VHF is not an issue.? I have an Hi-Q 5-80 HF antenna that I haven't been using.? Any suggestions on where to mount it?? I have the RamBox and the bed is lined with the spray on stuff.? Whether I use the Hi-Q, which is insanely tall, or not, the question remains where to put the mount.? I'm not crazy about putting the mount in the bed because then my tonneau cover couldn't close.? I don't mind holes in the truck.
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I have an FT857D that is not installed and hasn't been used for years, so I am no longer familiar with it.? Can it receive 11m AM and SSB?? I have no interest or need to transmit, only receive.? If it will receive I might install it in my pickup.? Thanks.
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Ft-857 and Winlink/VARA HF Question
Friends,
Here in San Diego, our ARES group has made leaps forward in the expanded use of Winlink for EmComm.
As a part of that, I am expanding my skillset from basic Winmor to VARA. ? ? I have gotten VARA FM to play on my FT-857 and Signalink rig and now want to use VARA HF on the same rig.? This rig is set up and works fine on Winmor HF.?
I have had only minor success in making compete connections with VARA FM. ? Today I had a complete connection, but its fairly rare that it works out without? repeat tries.
One of my colleagues suggested the following: ? "VARA HF tip: make sure that your receiver passband filter is at least 2.8 kHz. If your receiver defaults to 2.4 kHz, you can't sustain a VARA connection because VARA reaches into the corners of the envelope."
Can anyone advise me of where to find, if there is one, a menu item to see what the RX BPF value is on the FT-857?? And is It adjustable?
Cheers,
Dennis Yard N1TEN
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Hello All,
Tim Moes of Midwest Technical Services has repaired my 857 for $220 and change.? Bad interconnect cable, two diodes, and a FET.? He did find a small amount of corrosion on the PCB and repaired that too.? Considerably less than the quote from Y for $871.? Good service.
Mel, K6KBE
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Re: FT-857D Randomly powering on/off
Hi Jim:
14.2v at the battery when at idle.
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Re: FT-857D Randomly powering on/off
Hi Robert:
?Finally got a nice sunny day and checked the fuses and they seem to be in good shape with no burns or trace marks. That being said I will keep that on my things to check list. Since the original instance, my problem has not repeated itself, but that being said anything is possible at any time.
I never turn the radio on prior to starting the car, and in my case I let the cabin temp come up to a comfortable temp before turning on the radio, ie around 15C and never turn the radio on when the cabin temp is below zero.
Also checked the Molex connector at the radio and all is good and re-seated the connector to be on the safe side.
Tnx for your assistance Bob
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Re: FT-857D sounding slightly distorted on FM but HF OK
Hi Gary,
It's been a little while but if memory serves me I used Chem-Wick with a regular TC iron for the Main I/O pins and then the same wick with a Weller D8200 for the ground pins. I did have to reheat one or 2 pins while pulling at it to get them out though. I then wicked the holes clear from both sides and reinstalled. Whichever works for what you have for equipment.
Mitch
N4MF
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Re: FT-857D Randomly powering on/off
I would check the output of your cars alternator I have a gut feeling it¡¯s high voltage?jim kb1pfl ?
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Re: FT-857D Randomly powering on/off
Hi Fred, ? that is normal operation. ? If the radio is switched on when power is removed, then, when power is restored it will come back on. If the radio was switched off then it will stay switched off when power is restored. ? I have a relay device in my cars which supplies power to the radios 10 seconds after the car is started and then removes it 10 minutes after I switch the car off. Prevents flat batteries but allows me to complete a QSO before I get out of the car without having to keep the ignition on. The radio automatically comes on when the power is applied by the relay. ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fred Dalzell via Groups.Io - dalzellf=mac.com at groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 15 January 2020 04:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FT-857] FT-857D Randomly powering on/off? MIke - actually, that might not be true. Last night I was testing my setup for Winter Field Day and accidentally disconnected my 857 from?the battery while powered up. I reconnected and?the radio came to life. Not what I had expected. Again, it was already on before I did this. I have never had it spontaneously turn itself on from a cold start. ?
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Mitch,
When you removed the two filters did you find it necessary to somehow crush the filter to break it apart so the soldered pins would come out easier and keep the board from being damaged? I've tried as much a 400 degrees on the ground contacts and they are not melting the solder.? Just wondering what method you used to removed these filters. Gary A. - W0MNA
On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 12:55 PM < n4mf@...> wrote: Hi Gary,
Actually no i did not do the blocking caps, neither did Yaesu when they replaced CF1005. Something I plan to do in the short term, just wanted to get the rig back working correctly.
Mitch
N4MF
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Re: FT-857D Randomly powering on/off
Hi Mike and Jim
If you are using blade fuses this can be a problem. Some of the fuse holders only have a very narrow point of contact and will leave a black burn mark across them, clean them up and they go ok for some time. Particularly happened on my IC-7000.
Back to my earlier suggestion of the problem I had with the display not being on after starting the car. The display was blank and I had audio on HF as I like to know the signal is there while driving, audio indicator. I could also turn the radio by using the on/off button and then turn it on again and the display work ok till the next start. It usually takes months before the fault occurs gain if I reseat the remote connector on the back of the control head. I have operated this radio in this configuration mostly for 10 years in 2 different vehicles. This fault happened infrequently since replacing the display board about 2 years ago.
Maybe it is time to take the radio out from under the seat and re-do all the connects.
Good luck hope you find your problem.
Bet Regards Bob
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Re: FT-857D Randomly powering on/off
"Molex" ?
I think that the connectors used on these radios is "Molex-Style"
and not a genuine part (I could be wrong there) However, Molex
connectors are designed for situations where the are plugged in,
and rarely disconnected, and they don't withstand regular plugging
and unplugging.? I first came across them many years ago as the
output connectors on high-current DC rack-mounted power supplies
which are usually only unplugged if the supply goes faulty.
The cable to my 857 is never disconnected,? as I have Power-Poles
as standard on all my 12v gear, and a Power-pole does the plugging
and unpluggin when I move my radios between the car and the shack.
de Stu,? G3OCR
On 14/01/2020 10:21 pm, Jim, ND9M /
VQ9JC via Groups.Io wrote:
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Mike,
Several years ago, my 857 started shutting off for no
obvious reason. After checking all the obvious things like
connections etc (plus a ton of head scratching), I discovered
that the Molex connector had gotten warm at some point, and
one of the pins had become slightly discolored. Although I
cleaned off the pins, the problem continued intermittently.
But it was then that I also noted that the voltage
indicated on the front panel display was occasionally dropping
below 11 volts or so; when the voltage dropped like that, the
rig shut off. Although the power supply output appeared to be
stable, I switched it out anyway, but had the same irritating
intermittent failure.
I looked more closely at the Molex plug on the power cord
and noticed that its color had darkened slightly. changed out
the Molex plug in favor of a more robust plug, and the voltage
no longer varied.
The bottom line was that the pin connection had developed
enough resistance that it caused an intermittent voltage drop.
73,
Jim, ND9M
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Hi Jim:
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I will check that out. Makes partial sense that is worth investigating. Tnx
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Hi Mike,
Several years ago, my 857 started shutting off for no obvious reason. After checking all the obvious things like connections etc (plus a ton of head scratching), I discovered that the Molex connector had gotten warm at some point, and one of the pins had become slightly discolored. Although I cleaned off the pins, the problem continued intermittently.
But it was then that I also noted that the voltage indicated on the front panel display was occasionally dropping below 11 volts or so; when the voltage dropped like that, the rig shut off. Although the power supply output appeared to be stable, I switched it out anyway, but had the same irritating intermittent failure.
I looked more closely at the Molex plug on the power cord and noticed that its color had darkened slightly. changed out the Molex plug in favor of a more robust plug, and the voltage no longer varied.
The bottom line was that the pin connection had developed enough resistance that it caused an intermittent voltage drop.
73,
Jim, ND9M
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Re: FT-857D Randomly powering on/off
I have never used a Hall effect unit in any of my radio installations, but if the Hall unit is disconnecting the ground lead from the battery, all the current would travel through the coaxial cable or the main radio chassis ground if the chassis was indeed grounded. Not a good practice if there is a ground main wire fault condition. ? ? Regards, ? Tom ?
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From: Mike VE3YFSent: January 14, 2020 1:02 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FT-857] FT-857D Randomly powering on/off ? Sorry Guy's:
Just looked thru my notes and my devices are direct to the + Post of the battery, the Hall device is on the - Post of the battery. So equipment is directly wired to the positive Post.
73 De Mike
VE3YF -- +++++++++++++++ Tony VA7TF? VE7ACF
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Sorry Guy's:
Just looked thru my notes and my devices are direct to the + Post of the battery, the Hall device is on the - Post of the battery. So equipment is directly wired to the positive Post.
73 De Mike
VE3YF
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Re: FT-857D Randomly powering on/off
Hi Fred:
Not sure what you are getting at.
If you are thinking that the radio had no power to prior to radio turning itself on, and once it was given power it turned itself on. Fine, but then why would it turn itself off, and then start the cycle again of on and off for approx 5 minutes, and stayed off until I turned it one a few minutes later. And during the rest of the trip the radio performed perfectly. The radio is always manually turned off when I shut the vehicle down, and as a fail-safe the radio will turn itself off after 1hr from a menu setting.
Also the other device that is in the circuit had power soon as I turned it on, the APRS rig had power full time so that part of the equation doesn't fit. I don't turn the 857 on until the head has reached the cabin temp both in winter and summer.
73 De Mike
VE3YF
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Re: FT-857D Randomly powering on/off
MIke - actually, that might not be true.
Last night I was testing my setup for Winter Field Day and accidentally disconnected my 857 from?the battery while powered up. I reconnected and?the radio came to life. Not what I had expected. Again, it was already on before I did this. I have never had it spontaneously turn itself on from a cold start. Fred KI7BCL
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Mike VE3YF
Tony VA7TF, VE7ACF
