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Re: Help needed to understand gin/raising pole

 

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I have the same setup but use pelican clips for the gib pole lines for consistency and to save…. ?… 20 seconds ?

On Aug 17, 2023, at 11:14 AM, Mark via groups.io <khimaira20@...> wrote:

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I made a spectra bridle that attaches to the foot rails on each side and have a stainless ring that lines up at the mast pivot point. I use the ring to snap the jib and screacher halyards to and tie on lines for the ginpole.?
Oh…just used a rubber pad at the ginpole base for grabbing the mast and keep it on compression.

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On Aug 17, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Anton <iamyouranton@...> wrote:

?As has been described in detail by me and others on other lists, you absolutely need lines to restrain the pole?as well as the mast side to side, and to keep the mast from rotating. The critical thing is, as you can see in Dan Morton’s pics, is that the pivot point for all the stays has to be in line with the pivot point of the mast, or the lines will loosen or tighten as you raise it.?

On the F24 MK1 mast raising system I helped rebuild, there is a spot one the cabin top that is not much lower than the pivot point for the mast, so it was easy to use a bolt eye for the pivot point, in fact, I welded a tang on to the eye with a hole in it that could take 1/4” pins/bolts and used clevises so that everything was on a very defines rotating center. I could actually put a 1/4” rod though the two mast raising holes and the side stay holes, they were exactly in line. It works very smoothly, and controllably.?

Using a rope triangle for the pivot should work except at the lowest spot where you might have to restrain it manually a bit side to side, but once it is above the pivot point, its pull will keep the lines taut.?

As you know, I made a rear mast crutch with a add-on higher mast holding cup so that the starting height of the rear part of the mast is much higher and therefore mush easier to start cranking up with the winch, remove the hardest part of the raise, and therefore also the highest tension on the raising line, and thus also any possible side-pull if things go… sideways ;-) It also would solve the problem of the flexible line lifting pivot triangle (as opposed to a stiff metal one) being pulled off center by the mast being below its highest point. Making an add-on or flip-up mast crutch that is higher than the flat position is not hard, and makes the raising much more possible single handed.?

On my boat, I use the halyards to restrain the mast side-to side, but have to adjust them several times as the mast goes up because they are not attached to the pivot point, but my. Mast is light and short so it’s not a huge hassle.?

Anton


Drive locally, Warm globally!

On Aug 17, 2023, at 9:18 AM, Nige Oswald <ioi.nige@...> wrote:

You still need the stays on the mast too to stop it going side to side. ?You can use halyards for this though too and the loads are not very high.

Before raising and lowering I always think of the two triangulated planes and run mu eyes over them - one with the gin pole and one with the mast.


Cheers

Nige

On Aug 17, 2023, at 8:26 AM, Greg <cartersboat@...> wrote:

?OK, James, I'll go look for those photos! ?Nick, you described what I was thinking, bolting plates though the mast's tab that grab & align with base. I must be missing a part, because this gin pole has no way of attaching to the mast. Today I'll start noodling/sketching an all-in-one, easy-install part that physically aligns the mast and base, and secures the gin pole upright. Once all of this is done, I believe it should be OK to have only the side-wires done properly on the gin pole, and no need for temporary stays on the mast? Does that sound right??
Nick, yes please, it would be GREAT to see those instructions but I understand they may be too buried.?
Thank you guys!
-Greg


Re: Help needed to understand gin/raising pole

 

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Oh, right, the gin pole stays will keep the rings in the right place even when the mast is low!

Anton


On Aug 17, 2023, at 11:14, Mark via groups.io <khimaira20@...> wrote:

?
I made a spectra bridle that attaches to the foot rails on each side and have a stainless ring that lines up at the mast pivot point. I use the ring to snap the jib and screacher halyards to and tie on lines for the ginpole.?
Oh…just used a rubber pad at the ginpole base for grabbing the mast and keep it on compression.

<IMG_0357.jpeg>

On Aug 17, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Anton <iamyouranton@...> wrote:

?As has been described in detail by me and others on other lists, you absolutely need lines to restrain the pole?as well as the mast side to side, and to keep the mast from rotating. The critical thing is, as you can see in Dan Morton’s pics, is that the pivot point for all the stays has to be in line with the pivot point of the mast, or the lines will loosen or tighten as you raise it.?

On the F24 MK1 mast raising system I helped rebuild, there is a spot one the cabin top that is not much lower than the pivot point for the mast, so it was easy to use a bolt eye for the pivot point, in fact, I welded a tang on to the eye with a hole in it that could take 1/4” pins/bolts and used clevises so that everything was on a very defines rotating center. I could actually put a 1/4” rod though the two mast raising holes and the side stay holes, they were exactly in line. It works very smoothly, and controllably.?

Using a rope triangle for the pivot should work except at the lowest spot where you might have to restrain it manually a bit side to side, but once it is above the pivot point, its pull will keep the lines taut.?

As you know, I made a rear mast crutch with a add-on higher mast holding cup so that the starting height of the rear part of the mast is much higher and therefore mush easier to start cranking up with the winch, remove the hardest part of the raise, and therefore also the highest tension on the raising line, and thus also any possible side-pull if things go… sideways ;-) It also would solve the problem of the flexible line lifting pivot triangle (as opposed to a stiff metal one) being pulled off center by the mast being below its highest point. Making an add-on or flip-up mast crutch that is higher than the flat position is not hard, and makes the raising much more possible single handed.?

On my boat, I use the halyards to restrain the mast side-to side, but have to adjust them several times as the mast goes up because they are not attached to the pivot point, but my. Mast is light and short so it’s not a huge hassle.?

Anton


Drive locally, Warm globally!

On Aug 17, 2023, at 9:18 AM, Nige Oswald <ioi.nige@...> wrote:

You still need the stays on the mast too to stop it going side to side. ?You can use halyards for this though too and the loads are not very high.

Before raising and lowering I always think of the two triangulated planes and run mu eyes over them - one with the gin pole and one with the mast.


Cheers

Nige

On Aug 17, 2023, at 8:26 AM, Greg <cartersboat@...> wrote:

?OK, James, I'll go look for those photos! ?Nick, you described what I was thinking, bolting plates though the mast's tab that grab & align with base. I must be missing a part, because this gin pole has no way of attaching to the mast. Today I'll start noodling/sketching an all-in-one, easy-install part that physically aligns the mast and base, and secures the gin pole upright. Once all of this is done, I believe it should be OK to have only the side-wires done properly on the gin pole, and no need for temporary stays on the mast? Does that sound right??
Nick, yes please, it would be GREAT to see those instructions but I understand they may be too buried.?
Thank you guys!
-Greg


Re: Help needed to understand gin/raising pole

 

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I made a spectra bridle that attaches to the foot rails on each side and have a stainless ring that lines up at the mast pivot point. I use the ring to snap the jib and screacher halyards to and tie on lines for the ginpole.?
Oh…just used a rubber pad at the ginpole base for grabbing the mast and keep it on compression.

IMG_0357

On Aug 17, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Anton <iamyouranton@...> wrote:

?As has been described in detail by me and others on other lists, you absolutely need lines to restrain the pole?as well as the mast side to side, and to keep the mast from rotating. The critical thing is, as you can see in Dan Morton’s pics, is that the pivot point for all the stays has to be in line with the pivot point of the mast, or the lines will loosen or tighten as you raise it.?

On the F24 MK1 mast raising system I helped rebuild, there is a spot one the cabin top that is not much lower than the pivot point for the mast, so it was easy to use a bolt eye for the pivot point, in fact, I welded a tang on to the eye with a hole in it that could take 1/4” pins/bolts and used clevises so that everything was on a very defines rotating center. I could actually put a 1/4” rod though the two mast raising holes and the side stay holes, they were exactly in line. It works very smoothly, and controllably.?

Using a rope triangle for the pivot should work except at the lowest spot where you might have to restrain it manually a bit side to side, but once it is above the pivot point, its pull will keep the lines taut.?

As you know, I made a rear mast crutch with a add-on higher mast holding cup so that the starting height of the rear part of the mast is much higher and therefore mush easier to start cranking up with the winch, remove the hardest part of the raise, and therefore also the highest tension on the raising line, and thus also any possible side-pull if things go… sideways ;-) It also would solve the problem of the flexible line lifting pivot triangle (as opposed to a stiff metal one) being pulled off center by the mast being below its highest point. Making an add-on or flip-up mast crutch that is higher than the flat position is not hard, and makes the raising much more possible single handed.?

On my boat, I use the halyards to restrain the mast side-to side, but have to adjust them several times as the mast goes up because they are not attached to the pivot point, but my. Mast is light and short so it’s not a huge hassle.?

Anton


Drive locally, Warm globally!

On Aug 17, 2023, at 9:18 AM, Nige Oswald <ioi.nige@...> wrote:

You still need the stays on the mast too to stop it going side to side. ?You can use halyards for this though too and the loads are not very high.

Before raising and lowering I always think of the two triangulated planes and run mu eyes over them - one with the gin pole and one with the mast.


Cheers

Nige

On Aug 17, 2023, at 8:26 AM, Greg <cartersboat@...> wrote:

?OK, James, I'll go look for those photos! ?Nick, you described what I was thinking, bolting plates though the mast's tab that grab & align with base. I must be missing a part, because this gin pole has no way of attaching to the mast. Today I'll start noodling/sketching an all-in-one, easy-install part that physically aligns the mast and base, and secures the gin pole upright. Once all of this is done, I believe it should be OK to have only the side-wires done properly on the gin pole, and no need for temporary stays on the mast? Does that sound right??
Nick, yes please, it would be GREAT to see those instructions but I understand they may be too buried.?
Thank you guys!
-Greg


Re: Help needed to understand gin/raising pole

 

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As has been described in detail by me and others on other lists, you absolutely need lines to restrain the pole?as well as the mast side to side, and to keep the mast from rotating. The critical thing is, as you can see in Dan Morton’s pics, is that the pivot point for all the stays has to be in line with the pivot point of the mast, or the lines will loosen or tighten as you raise it.?

On the F24 MK1 mast raising system I helped rebuild, there is a spot one the cabin top that is not much lower than the pivot point for the mast, so it was easy to use a bolt eye for the pivot point, in fact, I welded a tang on to the eye with a hole in it that could take 1/4” pins/bolts and used clevises so that everything was on a very defines rotating center. I could actually put a 1/4” rod though the two mast raising holes and the side stay holes, they were exactly in line. It works very smoothly, and controllably.?

Using a rope triangle for the pivot should work except at the lowest spot where you might have to restrain it manually a bit side to side, but once it is above the pivot point, its pull will keep the lines taut.?

As you know, I made a rear mast crutch with a add-on higher mast holding cup so that the starting height of the rear part of the mast is much higher and therefore mush easier to start cranking up with the winch, remove the hardest part of the raise, and therefore also the highest tension on the raising line, and thus also any possible side-pull if things go… sideways ;-) It also would solve the problem of the flexible line lifting pivot triangle (as opposed to a stiff metal one) being pulled off center by the mast being below its highest point. Making an add-on or flip-up mast crutch that is higher than the flat position is not hard, and makes the raising much more possible single handed.?

On my boat, I use the halyards to restrain the mast side-to side, but have to adjust them several times as the mast goes up because they are not attached to the pivot point, but my. Mast is light and short so it’s not a huge hassle.?

Anton


Drive locally, Warm globally!

On Aug 17, 2023, at 9:18 AM, Nige Oswald <ioi.nige@...> wrote:

You still need the stays on the mast too to stop it going side to side. ?You can use halyards for this though too and the loads are not very high.

Before raising and lowering I always think of the two triangulated planes and run mu eyes over them - one with the gin pole and one with the mast.


Cheers

Nige

On Aug 17, 2023, at 8:26 AM, Greg <cartersboat@...> wrote:

?OK, James, I'll go look for those photos! ?Nick, you described what I was thinking, bolting plates though the mast's tab that grab & align with base. I must be missing a part, because this gin pole has no way of attaching to the mast. Today I'll start noodling/sketching an all-in-one, easy-install part that physically aligns the mast and base, and secures the gin pole upright. Once all of this is done, I believe it should be OK to have only the side-wires done properly on the gin pole, and no need for temporary stays on the mast? Does that sound right??
Nick, yes please, it would be GREAT to see those instructions but I understand they may be too buried.?
Thank you guys!
-Greg


Re: Help needed to understand gin/raising pole

 

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You still need the stays on the mast too to stop it going side to side. ?You can use halyards for this though too and the loads are not very high.

Before raising and lowering I always think of the two triangulated planes and run mu eyes over them - one with the gin pole and one with the mast.


Cheers

Nige

On Aug 17, 2023, at 8:26 AM, Greg <cartersboat@...> wrote:

?OK, James, I'll go look for those photos! ?Nick, you described what I was thinking, bolting plates though the mast's tab that grab & align with base. I must be missing a part, because this gin pole has no way of attaching to the mast. Today I'll start noodling/sketching an all-in-one, easy-install part that physically aligns the mast and base, and secures the gin pole upright. Once all of this is done, I believe it should be OK to have only the side-wires done properly on the gin pole, and no need for temporary stays on the mast? Does that sound right??
Nick, yes please, it would be GREAT to see those instructions but I understand they may be too buried.?
Thank you guys!
-Greg


Re: Help needed to understand gin/raising pole

dan morton
 

Here are some pics of my F25c #9 with carbon mast which I sold a few years ago.

And for some inspiration :), here's a drone video of her finally sailing after lots of repair work!??

My gin pole had a pin that slotted into a hole in the mast and had fin-like pieces on each side to help it from twisting.
These boats almost all had a custom mast raising solution because the ones from the kit were terrible.?
You can see the Ginpole?laying on the ground here.

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This is my first attempt with mast?raising after buying.? Not recommended to use tiedown?straps but you get the idea on the general setup
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Aluminum bars to keep mast from turning
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Working with rigging company to setup?Dyneema raising lines
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On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 10:26?AM Greg <cartersboat@...> wrote:
OK, James, I'll go look for those photos!? Nick, you described what I was thinking, bolting plates though the mast's tab that grab & align with base. I must be missing a part, because this gin pole has no way of attaching to the mast. Today I'll start noodling/sketching an all-in-one, easy-install part that physically aligns the mast and base, and secures the gin pole upright. Once all of this is done, I believe it should be OK to have only the side-wires done properly on the gin pole, and no need for temporary stays on the mast? Does that sound right??
Nick, yes please, it would be GREAT to see those instructions but I understand they may be too buried.?
Thank you guys!
-Greg


Re: Help needed to understand gin/raising pole

 

OK, James, I'll go look for those photos! ?Nick, you described what I was thinking, bolting plates though the mast's tab that grab & align with base. I must be missing a part, because this gin pole has no way of attaching to the mast. Today I'll start noodling/sketching an all-in-one, easy-install part that physically aligns the mast and base, and secures the gin pole upright. Once all of this is done, I believe it should be OK to have only the side-wires done properly on the gin pole, and no need for temporary stays on the mast? Does that sound right??
Nick, yes please, it would be GREAT to see those instructions but I understand they may be too buried.?
Thank you guys!
-Greg


Re: Help needed to understand gin/raising pole

 

You need to lock rotation. In mtns w no cell service but posted pics in main group 1-2 weeks ago

Mobile so please excuse the errant dictation and auto-correct,

Prof James Looby


Help needed to understand gin/raising pole

 

Hi. I’m working on the restoration of 25C #15. Her mast hasn’t been up in 21 years! ?I only assume the gin pole that was inside the boat has been used before, but I can’t figure out how to make it work. Does anyone else have gear that looks the same??

Today I made the pole’s guy wires, running to triangulated floating rings per StephenB’s notes. But there’s no way to get everything attached by one person. I think the gin pole should notch in somehow between the mast and the mast foot part. This pole has a shaped wood insert bolted into the end, perhaps for compression strength. Do I need to devise a way to lock the mast rotation and mast foot together during raise/lower? Or is it better that the mast can still rotate during the operation??

can you see enough from these photos, or anyone available for a video call to direct me on this??

stumped!?

ps, I’ll post up the carbon chainplates retrofit video tonight. That project came out great. Just need a mast in the sky now…
thanks?
Greg 707.486.3954


F 82R Sail logo

 

Hi all
can anyone please help with the logo for my new sail, if you have a digital version I could provide for my sail maker, I promise a video from the first hoist ?

Best Regards?
Martin F
#106 F82R “Lydius “


#5 still for sale

Charlie P Mayer
 

$28,000

Boat is too good to be sitting around.? Needs to be used.? No issues that would prevent an immediate sail.

Updated info attached.? Between San Antonio and Austin.?

Punch list includes several minor items.? One unfixed delam on port ama deck - 12x12 approx.

Fun boat - enjoyed it - but I have other things to do.

Charlie Mayer
361-790-4579
call or text
if you can't see attached file, please let me know


mast

Charlie P Mayer
 

anybody have an original carbon mast for sale?


Re: Number 5 for sale - ?otra vez!

Charlie P Mayer
 

inside

I have many others, or can take afresh for specific details



On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 12:23?PM Heymatey via <heymatey=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Charlie, I understand! :)

What are you asking for her? Any other photos?

Marc


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie P Mayer <charliepmayer@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, Jun 13, 2023 12:12 pm
Subject: Re: [F25C-Owners] Number 5 for sale - ?otra vez!

Hi Marc,
Sorry for the long delay.
Life kinda got in the way of everything else.
My apologies.

Boat is still for sale.
Pics and info attached.

Charlie Mayer



Some detail

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 3:07?PM Heymatey via <heymatey=[email protected]> wrote:
Charlie, I can't find where you posted your boat. Would you mind sending a link??

Many thanks in advance,?
Marc Jacobi?

-------- Original message --------
From: Charlie P Mayer <charliepmayer@...>
Date: 8/15/22 2:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [F25C-Owners] Number 5 for sale - ?otra vez!

Thank you Robert!? Hope you are doing well.? Do you have a link for the FCT site?

Thanks again,
Charlie

On Aug 14, 2022, at 5:30 PM, robert remmers via <robbob324@...> wrote:

Also put on farrier Corsair trimaran site?

FCT site?

Robert?


On Aug 14, 2022, at 4:12 PM, Charlie P Mayer <charliepmayer@...> wrote:

?
Greetings!?

I haven't sailed the boat since late 2019 as I can best recall.? She lives in a boat shed I built just for her.
Geico has refused to renew my insurance, and I am not spending enough time at the lake to warrant keeping the boat.
Perhaps it's time for her to go somewhere she gets properly sailed.

I bought her from the original builder in March of 2019.? This is the boat from Corsicana that is in the "Files" "For Sale" section.
New Smyth main and jib - 2019.? 2020 Smyth screacher and spin.? New 2019 furling Maxi-Screacher from Elliott/Pattison.? New Tohatsu 5 hp propane motor in 2020.

No idea what these boats are selling for - any thoughts?

If you're interested please send me a pm.?

Would appreciate insurance info, too.

Thank you,
Charlie Mayer
Canyon Lake, Texas


Re: Number 5 for sale - ?otra vez!

Charlie P Mayer
 

High 20s low 30s depending on inspection and optional equipment.
outside pics attached


On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 12:23?PM Heymatey via <heymatey=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Charlie, I understand! :)

What are you asking for her? Any other photos?

Marc


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie P Mayer <charliepmayer@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, Jun 13, 2023 12:12 pm
Subject: Re: [F25C-Owners] Number 5 for sale - ?otra vez!

Hi Marc,
Sorry for the long delay.
Life kinda got in the way of everything else.
My apologies.

Boat is still for sale.
Pics and info attached.

Charlie Mayer



Some detail

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 3:07?PM Heymatey via <heymatey=[email protected]> wrote:
Charlie, I can't find where you posted your boat. Would you mind sending a link??

Many thanks in advance,?
Marc Jacobi?

-------- Original message --------
From: Charlie P Mayer <charliepmayer@...>
Date: 8/15/22 2:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [F25C-Owners] Number 5 for sale - ?otra vez!

Thank you Robert!? Hope you are doing well.? Do you have a link for the FCT site?

Thanks again,
Charlie

On Aug 14, 2022, at 5:30 PM, robert remmers via <robbob324@...> wrote:

Also put on farrier Corsair trimaran site?

FCT site?

Robert?


On Aug 14, 2022, at 4:12 PM, Charlie P Mayer <charliepmayer@...> wrote:

?
Greetings!?

I haven't sailed the boat since late 2019 as I can best recall.? She lives in a boat shed I built just for her.
Geico has refused to renew my insurance, and I am not spending enough time at the lake to warrant keeping the boat.
Perhaps it's time for her to go somewhere she gets properly sailed.

I bought her from the original builder in March of 2019.? This is the boat from Corsicana that is in the "Files" "For Sale" section.
New Smyth main and jib - 2019.? 2020 Smyth screacher and spin.? New 2019 furling Maxi-Screacher from Elliott/Pattison.? New Tohatsu 5 hp propane motor in 2020.

No idea what these boats are selling for - any thoughts?

If you're interested please send me a pm.?

Would appreciate insurance info, too.

Thank you,
Charlie Mayer
Canyon Lake, Texas


Re: Number 5 for sale - ?otra vez!

 

Hi Charlie, I understand! :)

What are you asking for her? Any other photos?

Marc


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie P Mayer <charliepmayer@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, Jun 13, 2023 12:12 pm
Subject: Re: [F25C-Owners] Number 5 for sale - ?otra vez!

Hi Marc,
Sorry for the long delay.
Life kinda got in the way of everything else.
My apologies.

Boat is still for sale.
Pics and info attached.

Charlie Mayer



Some detail

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 3:07?PM Heymatey via <heymatey=[email protected]> wrote:
Charlie, I can't find where you posted your boat. Would you mind sending a link??

Many thanks in advance,?
Marc Jacobi?

-------- Original message --------
From: Charlie P Mayer <charliepmayer@...>
Date: 8/15/22 2:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [F25C-Owners] Number 5 for sale - ?otra vez!

Thank you Robert!? Hope you are doing well.? Do you have a link for the FCT site?

Thanks again,
Charlie

On Aug 14, 2022, at 5:30 PM, robert remmers via <robbob324@...> wrote:

Also put on farrier Corsair trimaran site?

FCT site?

Robert?


On Aug 14, 2022, at 4:12 PM, Charlie P Mayer <charliepmayer@...> wrote:

?
Greetings!?

I haven't sailed the boat since late 2019 as I can best recall.? She lives in a boat shed I built just for her.
Geico has refused to renew my insurance, and I am not spending enough time at the lake to warrant keeping the boat.
Perhaps it's time for her to go somewhere she gets properly sailed.

I bought her from the original builder in March of 2019.? This is the boat from Corsicana that is in the "Files" "For Sale" section.
New Smyth main and jib - 2019.? 2020 Smyth screacher and spin.? New 2019 furling Maxi-Screacher from Elliott/Pattison.? New Tohatsu 5 hp propane motor in 2020.

No idea what these boats are selling for - any thoughts?

If you're interested please send me a pm.?

Would appreciate insurance info, too.

Thank you,
Charlie Mayer
Canyon Lake, Texas


Re: Number 5 for sale - ?otra vez!

Charlie P Mayer
 

Hi Marc,
Sorry for the long delay.
Life kinda got in the way of everything else.
My apologies.

Boat is still for sale.
Pics and info attached.

Charlie Mayer



Some detail


On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 3:07?PM Heymatey via <heymatey=[email protected]> wrote:
Charlie, I can't find where you posted your boat. Would you mind sending a link??

Many thanks in advance,?
Marc Jacobi?

-------- Original message --------
From: Charlie P Mayer <charliepmayer@...>
Date: 8/15/22 2:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [F25C-Owners] Number 5 for sale - ?otra vez!

Thank you Robert!? Hope you are doing well.? Do you have a link for the FCT site?

Thanks again,
Charlie

On Aug 14, 2022, at 5:30 PM, robert remmers via <robbob324@...> wrote:

Also put on farrier Corsair trimaran site?

FCT site?

Robert?


On Aug 14, 2022, at 4:12 PM, Charlie P Mayer <charliepmayer@...> wrote:

?
Greetings!?

I haven't sailed the boat since late 2019 as I can best recall.? She lives in a boat shed I built just for her.
Geico has refused to renew my insurance, and I am not spending enough time at the lake to warrant keeping the boat.
Perhaps it's time for her to go somewhere she gets properly sailed.

I bought her from the original builder in March of 2019.? This is the boat from Corsicana that is in the "Files" "For Sale" section.
New Smyth main and jib - 2019.? 2020 Smyth screacher and spin.? New 2019 furling Maxi-Screacher from Elliott/Pattison.? New Tohatsu 5 hp propane motor in 2020.

No idea what these boats are selling for - any thoughts?

If you're interested please send me a pm.?

Would appreciate insurance info, too.

Thank you,
Charlie Mayer
Canyon Lake, Texas


Re: F25C for sale

 

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David?

How did you come across f25c ?


Did you build. ?
Robert


On May 29, 2023, at 4:32 PM, David Collins <davidcollins@...> wrote:

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Contact me for a look at the boat.

?

$30,000

?

Kindest regards,

David Collins

(310) 310-4914 (text & voice)

?

?

<HiPer montage.pdf>


F25C for sale

 

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Contact me for a look at the boat.

?

$30,000

?

Kindest regards,

David Collins

(310) 310-4914 (text & voice)

?

?


Re: Lengh rigging

 

I would contact Colligo as the forestay can be lengthened/shortened with their chain plate distributors.? With this all you need is a rough measurement of your present forestay or measurement from another F25C. This approach also allows you to adjust the mast rake.??

Thank you and wishing you well,?

Prof James G. Looby??
USN SAR/USMC Corpsman - "So others may live"


Re: Lengh rigging

 

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Honestly, it might be worth the trouble of putting the mast up to check how it all goes together. ?That way you can provide your rigger with accurate info and pics so they can design something that will work the first time out.?

I’d be happy to take measurements off my boat that’s in the garage awaiting a refit but I haven’t set it up ever so I don’t know how it goes together either. Also, it’s stainless wire rigging, probably stock, whatever that is, whatever got installed by whoever the first owner was.?

Anton


On May 10, 2023, at 20:08, Chris Sund <chris.sund@...> wrote:

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But, Mark, – and I mention this for arteckraf’s [the OP] consideration – doesn’t this speak to Garry’s point, that, given the individual nature of many F-25c’s, specific measurements for each individual boat are probably a better way to go when ordering standing rigging than making one’s rigging to measurements from other peoples' boats, particularly given that your forestay is attached forward of the stock chainplate?

Cheers,
Christopher

formerly F-25c #16?“惭颈苍诲产别苍诲别谤"

On May 10, 2023, at 6:48 PM, Mark via groups.io <khimaira20@...> wrote:

Here’s what’s on mine…

Forestay: 375” [5mm?Dyform?Stainless Steel]
Shrouds: 381”?(31’ 9” eye to eye ) [7mm?Dynex?Dux?or STS-HSR?or equivalent]

Mark Z
Khimaira?
F25c #20

On May 10, 2023, at 4:15 PM, Garry Sagert <gsagert@...> wrote:

?Given that it was a kit boat there is some possibility that some F-25Cs have subtle differences in their rigging, so it would be ideal if you could use your existing rigging as a reference.

Synthetic rigging is normally terminated at the lower end with lashings so you should easily be able to accommodate something a bit short, but not a bit long, so err on the short side!
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Garry Sagert
F-82R “Unleaded”
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