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John Daniel in pamiller Tranquility
Hello, I believe John Daniel, to be my 7th Great Grandfather. Due to our family having only one Daniel male and can't be found, we are not able to do a Y DNA. My Great Aunt Virginia Daniel has done a test and has helped in confirming our Daniel tree.? Now the ever present issue, who was his father?? John's son Martin, spent his adult life in Mecklenburg Co, VA. Martin's children were John Walker, Stark, Elizabeth, Sarah, Milley, Wiley, Mary & Martin Jr. Martin Jr married Avarilla Yancey, children Stith, Thomas, Margaret, Dolly, Zachariah, Nancy, Stephen, Terresa & James. Pam also states that John's brother William passed BY 7 May 1882. There are two William Daniel who passed that year. One in Mecklenburg Co, VA But I don't want to assume that the William Pam speaks of is from Mecklenburg.? As you can see, some the children's names match others here in group.? Any tips and info is appreciated. Thanks Kathy? Virginia Daniel FTDNA kit # B809010 |
Hi, Kathy and all,
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Some quick stuff on John Daniel>Martin. My comments in [brackets].
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Martin's birth, online trees seem all over the place. The guardianship, probate, and tax records narrow his birth pretty precisely to 1778, very early 1779 at the latest.
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He has several guardians through the years. They are all appointed until he's legally allowed to choose (age 14 for boys, 12 for girls):
LDS film 008196650 item 2 Granvill Ct Minutes 1792-1795
November Court 1793, p. 113:
Martin Daniel comes into Court and being above the age of fourteen years, Chooses John Howard his Guardian, who enters into Bond in the sum of 1000 pounds with Willis Roberts and Robert Downey his Securities.
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LDS film 1906926 Wills and estate papers (Hillsborough District), 1772-1806?
file of John Daniel:
[I'm just putting a couple of the sheets that speak to Martin's age, but this is an absolutely luscious file. I've wallowed in it sooooo many times in SLC.]
-Mar 1789 - by Tho Daniel bond Mackburg [Mecklenburg?], by Howel Lewis bond, by ball due M. Daniel... Granville County, At the request & by the consent of Peter Bennett Guardian of the estate of Martin Daniel who is at present of lawful age We the under written subscribers have examined the above acct & find a ball. due to Martin Daniel of ?52.13.4 as above stated. Thomas Owen J.P., Thomas Vass [so it can't be 1789, Martin comes of age in 1799]? on left side of this sheet is Bennetts acct of ?33.15 for 4 1/2 years services as Gardian (Nov. 1792, so Martin is not of age in 1789)
?[My quick description of the page is tricky in terms of it saying Martin is of age. The top shows Bennett's accts, so 1789 fits since father John's death. But it's in a section of 1798-99 papers when later guardian Robert Hester had demanded an acctg by Peter Bennet. Martin's gdn accts show him still going to school in 1792 and boarding with Charles Yancey, so he's not of age in 1789. I think the accounts are for up to 1789 and then the examination and confirmation of the accounts at the bottom is much later after Robert Hester has taken over guardianship of Martin. But the examination and certification is not dated separately.]
-16 Apr 1798 Peter Bennett replies to suit, that Feb last in conversation Hester said he would direct his atty Potter not to proceed, that Bennett has paid ?150-200 as part payment of balance due...
-Apr 1801 [at Hillsborough Superior Ct] Martin Daniel v. Peter Bennett.? Bennett deposes again that Hester agreed not to proceed...that said Daniel after he came of age agreed that this suit should not be proceeded in, that they would settle amounts themselves. that he went 3 times to home of said Daniel in the year 1799 and beginning of 1800 and could not find him at home, and that the said Daniel moved to the state of Virginia in or about May 1800.
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[Also in this file, Martin Daniel is signing for his own receipts around Feb 1799.]
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On the Granville tax lists, there are guardians for Martin Daniel until 1799 when he's listed in his own right as a poll. Then he does the land swap with Samuel Bugg of Mecklenburg and moves there.
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LDS films for these tax years:
1758773 NC Granville Tax Lists 1767-1809 [some years on other films] - 1st book is 1767-1803, early stuff out of order and skips]
1758774 NC Granville Tax Lists 1755-1809
1758774? NC Granville Tax Lists
306819? NC Granville Tax Lists
0018071? Tax Lists for various counties, various yrs, from St. Archives [this had 1769]
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1780 "Lists of Assessments" [amounts, not acreage]
Goshen Distr - not alphabetical
Richard Bennet, Lewis Bennet, then next
Selah Daniel 2190 or 3370 - 13 - 4
skip 1 Peter Bennet
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1782 " "A list of persons and their Taxable property"
Goshen - not alphabetical
Selah Daniel 200 acres, 0 <7 or from 50-60, 1 from 7 to 16 or 40 to 50, 2 from 6 to 40, 5 horse/mule, 25 cattle, total 305
far from Selah is Chesley. [Those are the three slaves, Jack, Hamblin, and Rose.]
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1785 [completely alphabetical, no districts] "Acres, County, Free Poll, Slaves, Wheels, Stud Horses, Price for Season, Stock in Trade"
Robert Hester 200a Granv 1, 3 [not listed here as gdn of Martin Daniel or for est Daniel, but the acreage fits for Celia/Martin's land, the 3 slaves must be Jack, Hamblin and Rose as listed in the estate and guardian accounts for Martin, son of John Daniel.]
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1786 [completely alphabetical, no districts] "Acres, County, Free Poll, Slaves, Whites, Stud horses and their price, Pack of Play Cards, Stock in Trade"
Robert Hester 200a, 1-3
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1787 [alphabetical - I just took acreage]
Robert Hester 200a, 1-3
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1796 (some given in at Nov Ct, some others at Feb 1797, May 1797 courts)
Goshen Distr, alph: Land, Free polls, Slaves, Stud Horses, Town Lotts, [blank column]
next Robert Hester do for Martin Daniel 240a, 0-1-0-0 [acreage up]
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1797 Land, F Polls, Slaves, T Lotts, S. Horses [different from before]
Goshen Distr
Robert Hester Ditto for M. Daniel 200a 0-1-0-0 [acrege normal 200]
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1798 Land, F Polls, Slaves, T Lotts, S Horses
Goshen Distr
Robert Hester Ditto for M. Daniel 200a 0-0-0-0
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1799 Land, Free Poles, Slaves, Town Lots, Studs, Price
Goshen
next Martin Daniel 225a 1-1-0-0 [acreage up]
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1800 Acres of Land, F Polls, Slaves, Town Lotts, S Horses
Goshen
Martin Daniel 240a 1-1-0-0 [acreage up, matches 1796]
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1801 Acres of Land, Free Poles, B. Polls,, Town Lotts, S. Horses
Goshen
Martin Daniel 0a 1-0-0-0
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1802 Land, F. Polls, Slaves, T. Lotts, S. Horses
Goshen
Samuel Briggs 200 0-2-0-0 [There can be little doubt this must be Martin's land to Samuel Bugg, my reading error surely. There are Briggs in Granville, but....]
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1803 Land, Free poles, Slaves Town Lotts, Stud Horses
Goshen
Samuel Bugg [sic] 200a 0-2-0-0
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No more of this Martin in Granville tax lists.
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The Martin Daniel/Samuel Bugg land swap [FYI, I don't capitalize much in deed abstract language, just what the deed capitalizes, saves me time!]
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Mck DB 11-27 Samuel Bugg Jr of Meck to Martin Daniel of Granville [doesn't say NC] 15 Oct 1800, ?300, 150a Meck, beg at Swepson Jeffries Sr land in little Creek at a Corner red Oak and thence along the sd Jeffries line to a Corner tree at the old field and thence along the sd old field on to a Corner pine at the head of the Branch on Skipwith line and thence along the sd Skipwith line to a corner spanish oak on John Buggs line and thence along the sd Buggs line to a Corner Hickory on Taylors Road and thence along the sd Road to where it turns out to a corner black Jack in the sd Buggs line and John Goodes jr line and thence along the sd Goodes line to the sd Road and thence along Samuel Youngs down to the sd Creek to a corner white oak on little Creek and thence up the sd Creek to the beg.? wit Thomas (x) Daniel, John Oliver, John Daniel, Joshua Wall, pr by Thomas Daniel, Joshua Wall, John Daniel. recd 8 Jun 1801
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Granv DB V221 Martin Daniel of Mecklenburg VA to Samuel Bugg Junr of Granville NC, ?300, 200a Granville beginning at a hickory Daniel's thence south 20 poles to a red oak, thence East to John Olivers line, thence along the said Olivers line to a corner on the Creek, thence west along the said Olivers line to a corner oak, thence south to a corner hickory in Daniels line, thence along the said Daniels line to the beginning, wr 19 Nov 1800, pr Aug 1811, wit Chesley Daniel, John Oliver [this doesn't plat well?]
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Mck DB 10-455? ?Martin Daniel Dd Trust to Alexander Boyd Tr et al recd 9 Feb 1801=
Martin Daniel of Meck to Alexander Boyd Junr & Richard Boyd of Meck of second part and Boyd and Bullock of Granville County of the third part.? 22 Nov 1800.? whereas said Martin Daniel is justly indebted unto the sd Boyd & Bullock ?73.11.8 due on demand to bear interest fr 1 Aug last, Martin acknowledges and also what cost may accrue on an attachment levied in Granvill [sic] County State No Carolina against the said Daniel at the Instance of the sd Boyd & Bullock on the 20th Novr 1800 and also for and in the further consideration of the Sum of 50 Cents paid by sd Alexander and Richard Boyd,? sold to sd Alexander Boyd and Richard Boyd, two tracts in Meck, one =150a being the Land sd Martin Daniel Swapt with Saml Bugg, bd by Lands of Swepson, Jeffries, Peyton Skipwith, John Bugg, John Goode Junr, Samuel Young.? the other Tract =150a being the land the sd Daniel has purchased of Thomas Daniel and bounded by the lands of William Daniel, Joshua Wall and Tignal Jones's estate.? to Alexander and Richard Boyd in trust nevertheless if sd Martin Daniel does not pay before 22 Nov 1801, then Boyds may after advertizing 4 weeks in one of the Virginia Gazetts sell sd lands to pay off Boyd and Bullock.? wit Francis Royster, John Royster, Thomas (x) Daniel, William Mitchell, Jeremiah Moore.
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Mck DB 11-65 release deed. whereas by deed 22 Nov 1800 Martin Daniel of the one part, Richard Boyd & Alexander Boyd jr of the second part and Boyd & Bullock of Granville Co NC of the third part.? If aforesd Martin Daniel shall not on or before 22 Nov 1801 pay to sd Boyd and Bullock √72.11.8 w/interest and also certain Costs and Expenses in sd Deed mentioned in deed, then they may advertise and sell land; Martin Daniel has fully discharged sd Debt Interest Cost and Expence, so they release and quit Claim.? wit H. R. Field, Robert Boyd, David Boys, Richard Oliver, recd 11 Jan 1802.
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DB Mck 11-30? Martin Daniel of Meck to Samuel A. Taylor same 14 Oct 1801, $686 and one third to him in hand paid, 144.5a Meck on S sd of Little Creek, being the same on Which the sd Daniel now lives, bd beg at John Buggs corner black Jack in John Goodes line thence N5 W15p to the main Road then the same Course across the Road with Samuel Youngs line 25p to the head of a Branch thence down the Branch as it meanders to little Creek thence up the Creek as it meanders (with Blands and Jeffries lines) 250p when reduced to a Strait line to sd Jeffries corner Spanish Oak on the Bank of sd Ck then with Jeffries line S 12.5 E35p to Jeffries & Skipwiths corner white Oak thence with Skipwiths line S 73 E46p to a Branch then down the Branch as it Meanders to the Junction of another Branch then with the main branch N 12 W10p to John Buggs corner spanish Oak on sd branch then with Buggs line S85 E34p S75 E28p S65 E9p [yes three calls in a row] to a Corner small Hickory on the main Road then down the main Road as it Meanders to wit, N15 E32p N30 E41p to a Corner small Hickory (formerly Buggs corner pine) then S34 E10p and N76[74?] E12p to beg.? wit John Hill, John Goode jr, Edmund Bugg, John Bugg, Achilles Jeffries, pr by John Goode Junr, Edmund Bugg, John Bugg, recd 14 Dec 1801.
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BTW:
Martin's father John Daniel names his brother William Daniel as executor in his will wr 15 Dec 1778, pr May 1779. [Granv WB1-235]
Then in 1782 Selah Daniel is apptd admrx because William has died:
Granv WB1-338: May Ct 1782:
“It being certified to the Court that William Daniel Executor of the Last Will & Testament of John Daniel deceased is Dead and no other executor appointed to the aforesd Will Therefore Administration with the Will annexed is granted to Selah Daniel wife and relict of the said John Daniel decd which was Order'd to be certified. Teste Reuben Searcy CC”
[WB1 is on LDS film 007653486]
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So we have brothers John and William in Granville, seems like both died fairly young.
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Regards to all,
Pam in CA |
开云体育Pam, Kathy, and All,I descend from Martin Daniel Sr (ca 1750-1811) through his son Martin Daniel Jr who married Avarilla “Avey” Yancey. ?Pam..we’ve correspond quite a bit in the past on my Martin Daniel Sr.? Kathy…I think you’ve confused Martin Daniel Sr (ca 1750-1811) with the Martin Daniel who was the son of John Daniel. ?They were distinctly two different people. ? YDNA evidence has shown that a descendant of Stark Daniel (son of Martin Daniel Sr) matches a descendant of William Powell Daniel (b ca 1808) in Mecklenburg Co., VA. ?Do we know if this William Powell Daniel descends from the William Powell Daniel born circa 1755?? ?If so…it could possibly link Martin Daniel Sr (ca 1750-1811) and William Powell Daniel the Elder (b ba 1755). ? Thanks in advance for any help or insight on these families…. Charlie Rathbun Knoxville, TN? On Feb 20, 2022, at 12:44 AM, Pam Miller <gen@...> wrote:
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Charles you are correct. I have confused the two different Martin's. I emailed Pam that I had. I have 28 matches for Martin, and 44 matches for Zachariah Yancey with Great Aunt Virginia Daniel DNA.?
Without a YDNA, I can only work with matches thru Ancestry & FTDNA .? James G Daniel abt 1818 VA married Tabitha Bumpass - 4th GGP thats where the trail went cold. Who were James's parents?? Matches lead me to Martin & Avarilla R Yancey. I have not found a will on either. James & Tabitha had 9 children. Mary, Martha Jane, Prince Albert, James Thomas, Theophilus, John Halbert, Jessee B, Noah Boggert, & William Franklin Kathy Johnstown, OH ? |
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