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John Daniel b.1623 of Over Tabley and Barbados

Kevin Daniel All Messages By This Member #182 Hi William, ? ? There is an authoritative report from a professional genealogist in the UK regarding the line of William Daniel who married Dorothy Forth but as far as I am aware nothing authoritative has been published regarding the descendants of Thomas Danyers. That William Daniel was from the Over Tabley family, though. That does not mean that there is no authoritative work on this topic, I am just not aware of any such documented research. What is your interest in this line? I have a copy of the report regarding William Daniel and Dorothy Forth, which concluded that there was no connection to William Daniel of Middlesex County, VA to the Over Tabley Daniels and that none of the children of Willam and Dorothy Forth Daniel immigrated to America. I think the report concluded that that line became extinct with the children of William Daniel, but it has been 20 years since I read the report, so I do not trust my memory on that. I only have a hard copy of that report and it is in storage. I am in the process of moving so will eventually get to that set of file cabinets which are in storage. The misinformation about a connection between the Over Tabley Daniels and Middlesex, VA Daniels is still widely circulated, so I should publish this report so it is not lost. The report was generated at the request of two wealthy Daniel brothers in Washington, D.C. who hired professional genealogists in the U.S. and U.K. in an attempt to prove the ancestry of William Daniel of Middlesex. Their genealogists failed in the attempt but generated some very good research based on primary records. Both brothers were elderly at the time I corresponded with them and are now deceased. I received my copy of the report from them. One of the brothers was among the early participants in the Daniel Y DNA Project in 2002-3. The Y DNA of the line of William Daniel of Middlesex, County, VA has long since been proved using primary record research and Y DNA testing.? A descendant of the Chesire Daniel family is participating in the Daniel Y DNA Project but has had no matches to anyone else in the project. The Y DNA of this line cannot, however, be considered proved since there is only one proved participant from this line in the project. To prove a Y DNA line, direct male descendants from two sons of the suspected ancestor must first be proved using primary records and then tested and match on a Y DNA test.? Kevin
Jack Danel All Messages By This Member #183 开云体育 Hi Kevin I have a vague memory of an email from about 15 years ago from a descendant of the Over Tabley Danyers folks. He was R1b. Jack Danel On 8/1/2022 11:36 AM, Kevin Daniel via groups.io wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text Hi William, ? ? There is an authoritative report from a professional genealogist in the UK regarding the line of William Daniel who married Dorothy Forth but as far as I am aware nothing authoritative has been published regarding the descendants of Thomas Danyers. That William Daniel was from the Over Tabley family, though. That does not mean that there is no authoritative work on this topic, I am just not aware of any such documented research. What is your interest in this line? I have a copy of the report regarding William Daniel and Dorothy Forth, which concluded that there was no connection to William Daniel of Middlesex County, VA to the Over Tabley Daniels and that none of the children of Willam and Dorothy Forth Daniel immigrated to America. I think the report concluded that that line became extinct with the children of William Daniel, but it has been 20 years since I read the report, so I do not trust my memory on that. I only have a hard copy of that report and it is in storage. I am in the process of moving so will eventually get to that set of file cabinets which are in storage. The misinformation about a connection between the Over Tabley Daniels and Middlesex, VA Daniels is still widely circulated, so I should publish this report so it is not lost. The report was generated at the request of two wealthy Daniel brothers in Washington, D.C. who hired professional genealogists in the U.S. and U.K. in an attempt to prove the ancestry of William Daniel of Middlesex. Their genealogists failed in the attempt but generated some very good research based on primary records. Both brothers were elderly at the time I corresponded with them and are now deceased. I received my copy of the report from them. One of the brothers was among the early participants in the Daniel Y DNA Project in 2002-3. The Y DNA of the line of William Daniel of Middlesex, County, VA has long since been proved using primary record research and Y DNA testing.? A descendant of the Chesire Daniel family is participating in the Daniel Y DNA Project but has had no matches to anyone else in the project. The Y DNA of this line cannot, however, be considered proved since there is only one proved participant from this line in the project. To prove a Y DNA line, direct male descendants from two sons of the suspected ancestor must first be proved using primary records and then tested and match on a Y DNA test.? Kevin
Kevin Daniel All Messages By This Member #184 Hi Jack, ? ?You are probably correct. Unfortunately, this participant does not identify his ancestry in the description of his ancestry on FTDNA so every time I want to look at his results, I have to once again figure out who he is.... He has not been responsive to contact attempts for some time and I lost my emails during the time we were communicating to a computer crash. I really wanted to get him to assist in confirming the Y DNA of this family.....? Cheers, Kevin
Kevin Daniel All Messages By This Member #185 He and his family still live in Cheshire or that vicinity....
Kevin Daniel All Messages By This Member #187 The Cheshire Daniel in our Y DNA project has not responded to emails for several years. I am not sure if he is still living. I will try again, though. Unfortunately, my correspondence with him was lost in a computer crash and I do not recall what information he shared with me. All I can say is that he does not match any other Daniel man in our project. The project web site is: If you do encounter any Daniel men who can prove descent from these Daniels, please feel free to give them link to our project web site. We would also very much like to add participation from any other UK Daniel men to the project. Best, Kevin
georgia cavanaugh All Messages By This Member #188 开云体育 William, you would be an excellent addition to our Daniel DNA project. Please consider doing the Y-DNA test. Thank you. Georgia Daniel Cavanaugh ? Sent from for Windows ?
Kevin Daniel All Messages By This Member #189 Hi Georgia, I believe that William's surname is Norvill, not Daniel. If so, it would not benefit William or the Daniel DNA Project for him to take a Y DNA test. or join the Daniel Y DNA Project It would, however, be beneficial if he wanted to trace his paternal Norvill ancestry.? There is a company, LivingDNA in the.U.K. which does autsomal DNA testing and also determines mtDNA haplogroup and also high level Y DNA haplogroups for men as part of the test. I have tested with them and their product would probably be best for autosomla DNA testing for U.K. residents. Best, Kevin
georgia cavanaugh All Messages By This Member #191 开云体育 OK, so William, do you have a direct Daniel line? If not, Kevin is right, of course, that the autosomal would be the better test. We have quite a lot of Daniel connected cousins who have done that test. Georgia ? Sent from for Windows ?

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