I hadn’t joined in this conversation, because I didn’t see a connection, but kit #20230 is Cecil Daniels. I purchased that kit and #20231 who is my first cousin, A. David Daniel. They are only off by one number on one marker which I was told was a “volatile” marker that could change over a 200 year period. Apparently, the change for our line was at Josiah Daniel b 1805 NC. We cannot find a scrap of paper that places him in Caswell Co., NC, but Cecil Daniels has a direct line to James Key Daniel and Sarah “Salley” Brown, both b VA. We found that they had one son in the right age bracket in the 1810 and 1820 census records who had never been identified. We have claimed him now, based on the DNA match, later census records showing Josiah’s parents b VA, and the names of Josiah’s children: first son James Jordan Daniel, a son William Brown Daniel and a daughter Sarah. Also, an exact DNA match with A. David Daniel and my 3rd cousin Jerry H. Daniel would support the change being at our Josiah. We are solid on our paper trail from Josiah b 1805 down to the present. Cecil’s paper trail is good back to Capt. William Daniel of Middlesex Co., VA, coming down thru son Robert, and we “piggy-back” on his DNA match. I’m not sure how I can help with this particular subject, but feel free to ask me questions. BTW, I have done the autosomal DNA test thru FamilyTreeDNA and have lots of Daniel cousins on that site, too. I wonder if we’d get matches there. It does at least include female connections that don’t show up in Y-DNA. I know that there are overall thousands more who have tested thru ancestrydna and I have my Daniel aunt (Mary Moore) on that website. I imported my DNA there and my daughter Karen Cavanaugh is there, too.