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Dave, Very interesting info on the coal trains in the area. I have little knowledge of what used to happen up that way then or now. I just know, there is a lot less moving on the rails then there was

Ed -- ? ? Thanks for this explanation. ?So it really wasn't a double header after all! ?This way of moving power around would seem to be the best way economically! ? ? ?NYC did use

4/3/53 Layed in. 4/4/53 Mohawk yard, power 3012, yard rate, marked on Mohawk 2:30 PM, marked off Mohawk 10:30 PM, on duty 8:00, paid $14.79 for 100 miles, G. Austin engineer, Cooper fireman.

Good morning Dave, It was probably only a double header going north with the 2582 being the power in the lead with an engineer and fireman and the 2751 being towed under steam with only Dad as the

Ed -- ? ? ? ? ?This is interesting! ? This must have been a double-header in both directions. ?Being paid at the local freight rate, does that mean that they worked switching at various places

10/8/48 B1Wx/DWx, power Alco class L-1b 4-8-2 2582 on B1Wx, Alco class L-2a 4-8-2 2785 on DWx, local freight rate, marked on DeWitt 11:45 AM, Cooper engine watch on Alco class L-2a 4-8-2 2751 on train

9/30/85 Regular day off. 10/1/85 PYRP, power B&M 351-D&H 7405-B&M 364-MEC 285, through freight rate, marked on Mechanicville 8:00 PM, taxi to train @ Mohawk, marked off Rouses Point 7:45 AM, on duty

6/17/80 WR7, power 7615-7408-CR GP38-2 8234-8237, through freight rate, marked on Hudson 11:30 PM, marked off Oneonta 12:05 PM, on duty 12:35, paid $145.97 for 171 miles, Cooper engineer, no fireman,

5/15/71 WR1, power 704-709-754, through freight rate, marked on Oneonta 11:15 AM, 23" initial terminal delay, marked off Whitehall 4:45 PM, on duty 5:30, paid $41.35 for 135 miles, Stan Chapman

4/23/69 NJ 101-200, power NJ 4051, local freight rate, marked on Rouses Point 7:30 AM, marked off Rouses Point 4:10 PM, on duty 8:40, paid $35.82 for 112 miles, Cooper engineer, no fireman, E.R.

5/18/62 SC20, power 4118-4128-4074, local freight rate, marked on Rouses Point 5:45 AM, marked off Whitehall 12:45 PM, on duty 7:00, paid $24.29 for 115 miles, A. Gennette engineer, Cooper fireman.

10/19/61 XW1 (extra west), power narrow gauge class K-36 2-8-2 486, local freight rate, marked on Alamosa 11:00 AM, ran lite, marked off Chama 9:10 PM, on duty 10:10, paid $30.16 for 147 miles, C.T.

Thanks Sam. Ed

Have you reached out to Alco Historic Photos? They have around 10000 drawings. You'll need a check and snailmail it though.

Does anyone know were I can find a good schematic drawing of the Alco C-420? Thanks. Ed

4/12-27/61 Furloughed. 4/28/61 Plattsburg yard, power 4028, yard-local freight rate, marked on Plattsburg 11:00 PM, marked off Plattsburg 7:00 AM, on duty 8:00, paid $22.56 for 100 miles, A.J.

6/28/64 Plattsburg yard, power 4119, yard-local freight rate, marked on Plattsburg 6:30 AM, marked off Plattsburg 2:30 PM, on duty 8:00, paid $22.56 for 100 miles, E.B. King engineer, Cooper fireman.

EdI thought it had something to do with the Cherry Vally branch.Thank YouAl -----------------------------------------From: "Ed Cox via groups.io" To: "[email protected]" Cc: Sent: Tuesday July

Al, I looked it up on the map. Dad may have spelled it wrong. Hyndsville, NY is about halfway between Cobleskill and Seward on the Cherry Valley branch. Ed

EdWhere is Hindsville? The only place I can think of is just west of Cobleskill about where the Cherry valley branch left the main.Thank youAl -----------------------------------------From: "Ed Cox