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Thanks Bill. That's a big help. I thought so, but wasn't sure. Now I just need the ex-LV C-420 horn info. Ed

Ed, It had an M3RT-1 when it was on the D&H. I checked in "Lehigh & Hudson River A Link in a Great Chain" by Robert Yanosey and all the photographic evidence points to them being delivered with M3RT1.

Does anyone know what type of horn came on the ex-L&HR C-420 or the original 2 chime horns delivered on the ex-LV C-420's? I know some were converted to Nathan M-3R-T1s in the 80's. Thanks

6/18/80 RW6, power CR GP38-2 8237-D&H 7402-7607, through freight rate, marked on Oneonta 11:30 PM, outlawed @ SC cabin, marked off Hudson 12:10 PM, on duty 12:40, paid $137.95 for 165 miles, Cooper

5/16/71 RW6, power 754-709-704, through freight rate, marked on Whitehall 12:45 AM, marked off Oneonta 7:15 AM, on duty 6:30, paid $39.78 for 130 miles, Stan Chapman engineer, Cooper fireman.

4/24/69 Rouses Point yard, power 4075, yard rate, marked on Rouses Point 11:00 PM, marked off Rouses Point 7:00 AM, on duty 8:00, paid 28.04 for 100 miles, T.T. Abbott engineer, Cooper fireman.

5/19/62 SC19, power 5003-5011-4105, local freight rate, marked on Whitehall 10:30 AM, cut 4105 & picked up 4126 @ Plattsburg, marked off Rouses Point 6:00 PM, on duty 7:30, paid $26.82 for 127 miles,

10/20/61 2CT1, power narrow gauge class K-36 2-8-2 486, local freight rate, marked on Chama 10 AM, 3:05 switching, marked off Chama 7:00 PM, on duty 9:00, paid $29.12 for 147 miles, C.T. Sisemore

Thanks again Gordon. Ed

I can think of reasons for running two L-1's to Watertown, with one dead-in-train with an engine watchman. First, the only ways to dead-head a steam locomotive were to keep a head of steam for

4/29-5/13/61 Furloughed. 5/14/61 Plattsburg yard, power 4028, yard-local freight rate, marked on Plattsburg 7:00 AM, marked off Plattsburg 4:00 PM, on duty 9:00, paid $26.85 for 119 miles, W.B. Barber

8/9/64 Plattsburg yard, power 4070, yard-local freight rate, marked on Plattsburg 6:30 AM, marked off Plattsburg 2:30 PM, on duty 8:00, paid $23.26 for 100 miles, E.B. King engineer, Cooper fireman.

Dave, Very interesting info on the coal trains in the area. I have little knowledge of what used to happen up that way then or now. I just know, there is a lot less moving on the rails then there was

Ed -- ? ? Thanks for this explanation. ?So it really wasn't a double header after all! ?This way of moving power around would seem to be the best way economically! ? ? ?NYC did use

4/3/53 Layed in. 4/4/53 Mohawk yard, power 3012, yard rate, marked on Mohawk 2:30 PM, marked off Mohawk 10:30 PM, on duty 8:00, paid $14.79 for 100 miles, G. Austin engineer, Cooper fireman.

Good morning Dave, It was probably only a double header going north with the 2582 being the power in the lead with an engineer and fireman and the 2751 being towed under steam with only Dad as the

Ed -- ? ? ? ? ?This is interesting! ? This must have been a double-header in both directions. ?Being paid at the local freight rate, does that mean that they worked switching at various places

10/8/48 B1Wx/DWx, power Alco class L-1b 4-8-2 2582 on B1Wx, Alco class L-2a 4-8-2 2785 on DWx, local freight rate, marked on DeWitt 11:45 AM, Cooper engine watch on Alco class L-2a 4-8-2 2751 on train

9/30/85 Regular day off. 10/1/85 PYRP, power B&M 351-D&H 7405-B&M 364-MEC 285, through freight rate, marked on Mechanicville 8:00 PM, taxi to train @ Mohawk, marked off Rouses Point 7:45 AM, on duty

6/17/80 WR7, power 7615-7408-CR GP38-2 8234-8237, through freight rate, marked on Hudson 11:30 PM, marked off Oneonta 12:05 PM, on duty 12:35, paid $145.97 for 171 miles, Cooper engineer, no fireman,