What you have is a Dalton 10 ? inch.? These were under development when the company failed in 1929 we think.? Yours is the third one I have seen.? It would help if you would include your name in your post so I can keep track of who has what especially these rare models.??? So number one what is the size of the threading lead screw.? I am going to guess its 1 inch 8. How I knew it was a 10 inch is the four bolt head stock bearing caps.? This head stock is much like the head stock on the Lot 1 combination machine. Also your picture of the back side of the apron is different than all other Daltons.? The half nuts are wider and the clutch is a bit different.? Other than that it looks l much like a Lot 6 or a Dalton 9 inch. ??What are you missing from the lathe if any?? Dennis

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Hello, I've posted pictures on here a couple years ago trying to identify my lathe but didn't succeed. there are no stamped marking on it on the end of the bed as usual. I found one piece behind the apron that says dalton and a couple other pieces with random letters and numbers. I have begun restoring the lathe so I'm once again looking to identify it, it looks comparable to the Dalton lathes that are said to be produced at the end of the companies life and have no stamps on them. looks like there was a round tag on it at one time and was painted grey or white at one time. pictures attached?

Gareth here are a couple of pictures of one of our other Dalton 10 inch machines.? The first one is also included a bench model I found in Florida about 20 years ago. Tried to purchase it but the seller would not ship it. ?We have also lost track of it so have no idea of what ever happened to it.?

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The odd thing about the 10 inch lathe is the compound slide and the cross slide as its made just like the Lot 2 lathe and till this ten inch showed up we have ever seen another model use that style of compound mounting.? On the lot 2 it was not successful and so the Lot 3 lathe later that year (1913) was changed.? The end door also is a puzzle to us as it used the patent hinge that is on the Dalton TL lathe and that patent date is 1922. Mitch Nash has the only complete Dalton 10 and also on it all castings had the word Dalton were ground off.? Also no serial number.? This would indicate that these larger lathes were prototypes that were sold off at the end of production in 1929.? We think this was to gain some small amount of revenue.? With no name or serial number three would be no tractability.? Also Mitch Nash’s lathe has? a thread chart but the upper part where the company name and address would have been was cut off.? Gareth I have two Dalton 9 parts lathes so down the road we can look to see if any of the cross slide and compound parts can be used on your lathe.?

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It’s really interesting guys that we now have three of these really rare lathes show up.? I really think given the quality of the Lot 6 lathe and also the Dalton 9 inch lathe this 10inch lathe would have been a real success if it had not been for the stock market crash of 1929.

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Interesting thanks for the info, I wonder how many like it were built. It will be a couple days before I can check the lead screw size. I'm missing the gear cover that goes on the end, the compound rest is missing, The chuck is in bad shape and the cross slide gib isnt in very good shape. I think thats all I'm missing. I'm also curious what the holes in the legs were for they are on both sides. thanks

Gareth McIver

Gareth if you talking about two holes that are on the face of the legs there was a gear storage wrack that bolted onto the inside of? one of the legs.? The holes at the end of the legs are for bolting the lathe legs to the floor as in this era most all shop floor were wood and machines were lag bolted do the floor.???

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Interesting thanks for the info, I wonder how many like it were built. It will be a couple days before I can check the lead screw size. I'm missing the gear cover that goes on the end, the compound rest is missing, The chuck is in bad shape and the cross slide gib isnt in very good shape. I think thats all I'm missing. I'm also curious what the holes in the legs were for they are on both sides. thanks

Gareth McIver

Gareth as to the cross slide compound problem.? You see in my photo the cross slide has a fat spud standing up that the compound lower casting sits over.? Then the lower casting is secured to the spud with a sort of clamp on one side of the compound casting.? On a Lot 2 it was held with a blunt nosed set screw.? This was just not a very successful attachment design. ??The one on the Dalton 10 was better but the more conventional design on the Lot 3 4 5 6 and Dalton 9 is much better.? So do you have the cross slide Gareth?? If so I can help you in a fabricated compound. ??WE might have another alternative though.? When you get the lathe back together I will have you do some specific measuring for me so I can see if we can substitute a Dalton 9 cross side and compound.? If so I do have these parts.? What is unique about the end door on your lathe is that rather than the door swinging horizontally it pivots vertically.? The last patent that old Hubert Dalton got was for this hinge. All Dalton TL lathes use this style of door and hinge.? In fact the door on a TL looks just like the one on your Dalton 10 only yours would be larger.? We can do some photo work on the TL door and hinge so you could fabricate a facsimile for your lathe or get pictures and dimensions off the only one to exist being Mitch Nash’s lathe.? Best thing would be to talk Mitch into sending us his door and hinge attachment casting so we could replicated it..? Need to talk to Mitch if he is still with this group. Pictures are of on of my Dalton TL lathes though smaller the door on the Dalton 10 looks just like it and functions just the same.

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Gareth here are a couple more pictures of the compound on Mitch Nash’s lathe.? This is the only complete Dalton 10 that we know of.? Mitch uses his lathe and has not been restored.? Dennis

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Interesting thanks for the info, I wonder how many like it were built. It will be a couple days before I can check the lead screw size. I'm missing the gear cover that goes on the end, the compound rest is missing, The chuck is in bad shape and the cross slide gib isnt in very good shape. I think thats all I'm missing. I'm also curious what the holes in the legs were for they are on both sides. thanks

Gareth McIver

Gareth I did some photo shop work on Mitch’s picture so here is what the original compound looks like and you can see the clamp bar on the side of the lower casting.???? Dennis

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Thanks Dennis, why were the cross slide and compound unsuccessful on the lot 2 and will this one be the same? is the end door specific to the lot 10, I wonder if I could find dimensions and fab one. The lathe is currently going through electrolysis so paint and reassembly will be starting soon, then I will have a better idea of what I will be needing and probably some more questions. Any info is appreciated thanks for the help

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The door on Mitch’s lathe like all other Daltons is cast iron.? Not sure Mitch is still with this forum as I would have thought he would have chimed in on this series of post Gareth. ??The parts you show look quite good.? Do you need a new cross slide gib made I think you mentioned it was damaged.

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I do have the cross slide it appears to be the same as Mitch's, its nice to have his as a reference. I attached a picture of various parts on a shelf, the cross slide is with them, I can get a better photo of it tomorrow though. Good to know that the compound can be fabricated, looking forward to getting it operational. Would the door on Mitch's lathe be cast Iron or cast aluminum?

We’re are you located Gareth?? Dennis

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Yes the cross slide gib I have isnt in very good shape I would like to get a new one if possible

How the heck did a Rare Dalton get up there.? Hmmmmmmm.:-)))))))? Dennis

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In Prince Edward Island, Canada

Damn Gareth you could not be any farther away from me and still be on the North America continent.? Bet its wet there and also cold and windy”-((? I’m in Oregon Gareth.? I bet the fishing around there is good though.? Dennis

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Gareth I am heading down to my Oregon coast place today.? Will be off line till this evening.?? As to the gib all I need is the dimensions and I can make one if you don’t have a mill or know someone out there that does and can make one.? Really easy for me as I happen to have a custom made carbide cutter we had made years ago when we were doing aerospace work for Boeing aircraft in the late 1990’s? It has the correct angle so I can cut the angle on the edge of the gib without having to tip the head on my mill.? Made lots of Dalton and SB gibs.? They were made from mild steel usually.?

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I wish Mitch would jump into this post so we can get dimensions off his compound. ?One nice thing Gareth is the radial angle graduations are on the cross slide as they are usually on the compound base casting.? Making the bottom casting will be easy the top casting a bit harder.? If your more interested in function than originality we might be able to use the top half of a SB compound .? I have lead screws nuts and handles so that’s not a problem.?

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Gareth do you have any of the change gears for the lathe or what gears do you have.? Also what is the width of the change gears and also the hole diameter in the gear.? You may not understand gear pitch so let me know what you have and I think I can figure out what pitch they are.? I am almost sure knowing how Dalton used ever part they could the change gears are going to be the same gears used on the Lot 6 and Dalton 9 inch lathe.? There would be no reason to change as your lathe is not that much bigger.? Also what spindle nose does your lathe have.? The Lot 6 and Dalton 9 have a 1 7/8 – 8? spindle nose with a number 4 Morris Taper.? If so the lathe could use 4C collets or the ? inch collet. ?

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I know just a bunch of more questions but I have always been fascinated with this lathe as it’s so rare and we know so little about it.? I? have quite a collection of Dalton sales literature and there is no mention of a 10 ? inch lathe in any of the stuff I? have.? Some of it shows the full line of lathes that Dalton sold during the 20’s and again no mention of your lathe.? The one thing that does puzzle me is the end door and the compound slide.? For one the end door did not exist till after 1921 and the compound slide design was only used in 1913 on the Lot 2.? Just a frigging puzzle to me.? Then on the other hand all this old 80 year old has to do is worry about some darn old lathe that should not exist”-)))))? Dennis

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I have been trying to figure out how it got here myself, I believe a local blacksmith owned it but how it got there im not sure. We are definitely out of the way here, I didn’t realize we are basically straight across from Oregon, but yes Fishing and farming are our two big things here