On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:15 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Interesting Rick never thought of that.? That's kind of a first for these old lathes.? If I remember correctly the 9L and 10 inch uses 15 change gears like the Dalton.? Dennis

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 11:10?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

The lever is for change gears. I think there's only seven change gears needed along with the 3 positions with the lever. I'll have to look at the threading chart and count how many gears there are.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:06 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Yes I can see that's?not a Champion overhead drive.? Also Rick what does the lever on the front of the head stock do.? My 10 inch does not have this feature.? I always?figured it was something to do with the back gear setup.?

Dennis

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 10:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

The manley overhead drive was made in York. Pennsylvania and is Serial number 428. The lathe is Serial number 67.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:20 PM, Rick Clayton via

<rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

It has a hand lever that's on a cam, so you can loosen up the belt in 5 seconds and move it to another pulley size. I think the serial number of the overhead drive was in the two hundred range.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:16 PM, Rick Clayton via

<rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

it has a 1hp century motor. I took this lathe apart and put it in the back of my pickup truck with only a floor Jack, no hoists by myself.?

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:01 PM, Rick Clayton via

<rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

I have three 13 x 5's, one has a Manley overhead drive on it that looks like it was made specifically for this lathe.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:58 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Hey Rick you have Blower and Forge lathes.? Which?ones do you have?? I have a 9L on floor legs but no drive.? Also have a parts lathe that a guy here in Oregon gave me.? I needed change gears and a tail stock for the one I restored?and the parts lathe gave me everything?I needed.? This is the 9 inch Blower and Forge lathe I? have.? I also have a 10 inch Blower and Forge that has the overhead drive and is on floors legs. This lathe I have not restored and is packed away right now.? I thought my 10 inch was the only one of that size known of what sizes do you have.? I also have never seen a 16 inch but have a couple of 13 inch models.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 9:51?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

I got my first Dalton 12 years ago.?

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:50 PM, Rick Clayton

<rjc112979@...> wrote:

I have 17 dalton lathes and 2 dalton combination machines. I love finding them.with different accessories. 4 champion blower and forge lathes including the only 16 x 8 one known to exist

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:44 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Hey Ralph, are you ever going to dig that Dalton out of storage and set it up?? Your friends?back at the NAMEs show said you also have a couple of clocks in your home.? Someone said you were a bit of a hoarder just like me?.? So I have had over sixty lathes in the last 30 years. How many clocks do you have:-)))))? I don't?remember you saying you had a lever tailstock?Ralph.? Yours make four then that we know of. It's a shame that the NAMEs show is no more.? My buddy? Ratshooter was with me when we met you there and have made good friends?with one of the board members from that show.? Karl Gross is his name and he is the one that conned Tim and me to come back to the show in 2016. Hope you're doing?well Ralph and again thank you for letting me use your lever collet closer for the Dalton I had at the NAMEs show and also used in the seminar that Ratshooter and I put on on Sunday morning.? Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 4:24?PM Ralph <rferone@...> wrote:

Dennis, I have a lever operated tailstock on my Dalton.

Ralph

Dennis Turk wrote:

Rick I have the?first lever operated tailstock?found way back in 2003 when I went to Susanville Comifornia?and picked up the first pedal lathe found.? I have all the history on? that lathe.? It is also one I have never restored. I believe there is one more lever?operated tailstock?out there I think. For you guys that have never used one of these kinds of tail stocks Dalton had the very?best one though SB as well as Atlas made one they just did not work as nice as Daltons.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:56?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

Also has some change gears, collets,? thread dial indicator, face plate, collet draw bar. How many daltons are knots have this type of tailstock l?

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 5:08 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

One other little bit of information about the overhead drives Dalton built.? These drives were used on all m models?of Daltons except the TL as it had a different?design drive if ordered with the overhead setup.? So the silent chain drives were very large and looked huge when mounted on the little Lot 4 or Lot 5.? Nots so much on the Lot 6 or Dalton 9.? The overhead drive you see in my video is mounted on a Lot 6 but is the identical drive to what is on Ricks Lot 5.? Dennis.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:00?PM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:

Rick if you ordered your Dalton with the overhead drive and for bench mount you got the much larger bed feet to support the large weight up high. I had a set of these but both had been broken and poorly welded?back together.? Gray Pilgrim now has that lathe..? Or AK Bart, another Oregon Dalton owner:-))))) The pictures show what this lathe looked like when? I picked it up in San Francisco.? This lathe was given to me all I had to do was pick it up.? As you can see this lathe has the third version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? What is missing is a large guard casting that covers the two silent chain drives.? There was a gear setup at the end of the motor shaft where you shifted gears for reveres. The motor shaft had one sprocket?for the silent chain and also a gear for driving the reverse?setup. It was like the other two drives way over engineered and was?complicated and prone to lots of noise?and wear.? Also these overhead derives?coast as much as the lathe did.

Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:20?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

This lathe also has larger bed feet a draw bar for the headstock and the lever operated tailstock.?

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:57 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Picture was taken in the front entry of Turk Mfg. Hillsboro Oregon where it was displayed with many other machines that I have restored.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:54?AM Dennis Turk <dennisturk448@...> wrote:

If you have looked at the photo of my later model Lot 5 you will note the clutch lever is now located differently.? This drive only has one clutch for on and off function.? The motor is operated by a large forward reverse?switch mounted on the back side of the drive vertical column?and is operated by moving the wood handle you see on the back side of the lathe.? It's a bit odd that not only did the drive have a clutch but the motor start stop and reverse function was controlled by a switch.? Answer,? The clutch freed?up the countershaft from the silent chain and motor making it easier to rotate the spindle by hand for setups. This lathe was found at the very tip of the ponisia that runs North from Green Bay up into lake Michigan.? Was owned by a retired teacher that had had it for over 50 years but had never set it up to run in all that time.? He said he did move it three times in the 50 years.? So for sure this lathe has not cut a chip in over 75 years.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:44?AM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Rick

Your Lot 5 is equipped with the first generation?overhead?drive.? I see you're missing the little disk that gave you access to adjusting the clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6 also has this drive but I have an early 1922 Lot 5

with the next version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? PIcture included.? If you have run your lathe you will? note the noise?that comes from the silent chain drive.? I have always found the name?silent chain kind of funny as they are noise?as heck.? My Lot 6 is as close to brand new as one could possibly find and it's?still noisy.? Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

Picked this up in Massachusetts today.

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On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:06 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Yes I can see that's?not a Champion overhead drive.? Also Rick what does the lever on the front of the head stock do.? My 10 inch does not have this feature.? I always?figured it was something to do with the back gear setup.?

Dennis

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 10:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

The manley overhead drive was made in York. Pennsylvania and is Serial number 428. The lathe is Serial number 67.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:20 PM, Rick Clayton via

<rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

It has a hand lever that's on a cam, so you can loosen up the belt in 5 seconds and move it to another pulley size. I think the serial number of the overhead drive was in the two hundred range.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:16 PM, Rick Clayton via

<rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

it has a 1hp century motor. I took this lathe apart and put it in the back of my pickup truck with only a floor Jack, no hoists by myself.?

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:01 PM, Rick Clayton via

<rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

I have three 13 x 5's, one has a Manley overhead drive on it that looks like it was made specifically for this lathe.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:58 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Hey Rick you have Blower and Forge lathes.? Which?ones do you have?? I have a 9L on floor legs but no drive.? Also have a parts lathe that a guy here in Oregon gave me.? I needed change gears and a tail stock for the one I restored?and the parts lathe gave me everything?I needed.? This is the 9 inch Blower and Forge lathe I? have.? I also have a 10 inch Blower and Forge that has the overhead drive and is on floors legs. This lathe I have not restored and is packed away right now.? I thought my 10 inch was the only one of that size known of what sizes do you have.? I also have never seen a 16 inch but have a couple of 13 inch models.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 9:51?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

I got my first Dalton 12 years ago.?

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:50 PM, Rick Clayton

<rjc112979@...> wrote:

I have 17 dalton lathes and 2 dalton combination machines. I love finding them.with different accessories. 4 champion blower and forge lathes including the only 16 x 8 one known to exist

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:44 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Hey Ralph, are you ever going to dig that Dalton out of storage and set it up?? Your friends?back at the NAMEs show said you also have a couple of clocks in your home.? Someone said you were a bit of a hoarder just like me?.? So I have had over sixty lathes in the last 30 years. How many clocks do you have:-)))))? I don't?remember you saying you had a lever tailstock?Ralph.? Yours make four then that we know of. It's a shame that the NAMEs show is no more.? My buddy? Ratshooter was with me when we met you there and have made good friends?with one of the board members from that show.? Karl Gross is his name and he is the one that conned Tim and me to come back to the show in 2016. Hope you're doing?well Ralph and again thank you for letting me use your lever collet closer for the Dalton I had at the NAMEs show and also used in the seminar that Ratshooter and I put on on Sunday morning.? Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 4:24?PM Ralph <rferone@...> wrote:

Dennis, I have a lever operated tailstock on my Dalton.

Ralph

Dennis Turk wrote:

Rick I have the?first lever operated tailstock?found way back in 2003 when I went to Susanville Comifornia?and picked up the first pedal lathe found.? I have all the history on? that lathe.? It is also one I have never restored. I believe there is one more lever?operated tailstock?out there I think. For you guys that have never used one of these kinds of tail stocks Dalton had the very?best one though SB as well as Atlas made one they just did not work as nice as Daltons.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:56?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

Also has some change gears, collets,? thread dial indicator, face plate, collet draw bar. How many daltons are knots have this type of tailstock l?

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 5:08 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

One other little bit of information about the overhead drives Dalton built.? These drives were used on all m models?of Daltons except the TL as it had a different?design drive if ordered with the overhead setup.? So the silent chain drives were very large and looked huge when mounted on the little Lot 4 or Lot 5.? Nots so much on the Lot 6 or Dalton 9.? The overhead drive you see in my video is mounted on a Lot 6 but is the identical drive to what is on Ricks Lot 5.? Dennis.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:00?PM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:

Rick if you ordered your Dalton with the overhead drive and for bench mount you got the much larger bed feet to support the large weight up high. I had a set of these but both had been broken and poorly welded?back together.? Gray Pilgrim now has that lathe..? Or AK Bart, another Oregon Dalton owner:-))))) The pictures show what this lathe looked like when? I picked it up in San Francisco.? This lathe was given to me all I had to do was pick it up.? As you can see this lathe has the third version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? What is missing is a large guard casting that covers the two silent chain drives.? There was a gear setup at the end of the motor shaft where you shifted gears for reveres. The motor shaft had one sprocket?for the silent chain and also a gear for driving the reverse?setup. It was like the other two drives way over engineered and was?complicated and prone to lots of noise?and wear.? Also these overhead derives?coast as much as the lathe did.

Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:20?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

This lathe also has larger bed feet a draw bar for the headstock and the lever operated tailstock.?

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:57 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Picture was taken in the front entry of Turk Mfg. Hillsboro Oregon where it was displayed with many other machines that I have restored.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:54?AM Dennis Turk <dennisturk448@...> wrote:

If you have looked at the photo of my later model Lot 5 you will note the clutch lever is now located differently.? This drive only has one clutch for on and off function.? The motor is operated by a large forward reverse?switch mounted on the back side of the drive vertical column?and is operated by moving the wood handle you see on the back side of the lathe.? It's a bit odd that not only did the drive have a clutch but the motor start stop and reverse function was controlled by a switch.? Answer,? The clutch freed?up the countershaft from the silent chain and motor making it easier to rotate the spindle by hand for setups. This lathe was found at the very tip of the ponisia that runs North from Green Bay up into lake Michigan.? Was owned by a retired teacher that had had it for over 50 years but had never set it up to run in all that time.? He said he did move it three times in the 50 years.? So for sure this lathe has not cut a chip in over 75 years.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:44?AM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Rick

Your Lot 5 is equipped with the first generation?overhead?drive.? I see you're missing the little disk that gave you access to adjusting the clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6 also has this drive but I have an early 1922 Lot 5

with the next version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? PIcture included.? If you have run your lathe you will? note the noise?that comes from the silent chain drive.? I have always found the name?silent chain kind of funny as they are noise?as heck.? My Lot 6 is as close to brand new as one could possibly find and it's?still noisy.? Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

Picked this up in Massachusetts today.

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On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:20 PM, Rick Clayton via groups.io

<rjc112979@...> wrote:

It has a hand lever that's on a cam, so you can loosen up the belt in 5 seconds and move it to another pulley size. I think the serial number of the overhead drive was in the two hundred range.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:16 PM, Rick Clayton via groups.io

<rjc112979@...> wrote:

it has a 1hp century motor. I took this lathe apart and put it in the back of my pickup truck with only a floor Jack, no hoists by myself.?

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:01 PM, Rick Clayton via groups.io

<rjc112979@...> wrote:

I have three 13 x 5's, one has a Manley overhead drive on it that looks like it was made specifically for this lathe.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:58 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Hey Rick you have Blower and Forge lathes.? Which?ones do you have?? I have a 9L on floor legs but no drive.? Also have a parts lathe that a guy here in Oregon gave me.? I needed change gears and a tail stock for the one I restored?and the parts lathe gave me everything?I needed.? This is the 9 inch Blower and Forge lathe I? have.? I also have a 10 inch Blower and Forge that has the overhead drive and is on floors legs. This lathe I have not restored and is packed away right now.? I thought my 10 inch was the only one of that size known of what sizes do you have.? I also have never seen a 16 inch but have a couple of 13 inch models.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 9:51?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

I got my first Dalton 12 years ago.?

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:50 PM, Rick Clayton

<rjc112979@...> wrote:

I have 17 dalton lathes and 2 dalton combination machines. I love finding them.with different accessories. 4 champion blower and forge lathes including the only 16 x 8 one known to exist

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:44 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Hey Ralph, are you ever going to dig that Dalton out of storage and set it up?? Your friends?back at the NAMEs show said you also have a couple of clocks in your home.? Someone said you were a bit of a hoarder just like me?.? So I have had over sixty lathes in the last 30 years. How many clocks do you have:-)))))? I don't?remember you saying you had a lever tailstock?Ralph.? Yours make four then that we know of. It's a shame that the NAMEs show is no more.? My buddy? Ratshooter was with me when we met you there and have made good friends?with one of the board members from that show.? Karl Gross is his name and he is the one that conned Tim and me to come back to the show in 2016. Hope you're doing?well Ralph and again thank you for letting me use your lever collet closer for the Dalton I had at the NAMEs show and also used in the seminar that Ratshooter and I put on on Sunday morning.? Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 4:24?PM Ralph <rferone@...> wrote:

Dennis, I have a lever operated tailstock on my Dalton.

Ralph

Dennis Turk wrote:

Rick I have the?first lever operated tailstock?found way back in 2003 when I went to Susanville Comifornia?and picked up the first pedal lathe found.? I have all the history on? that lathe.? It is also one I have never restored. I believe there is one more lever?operated tailstock?out there I think. For you guys that have never used one of these kinds of tail stocks Dalton had the very?best one though SB as well as Atlas made one they just did not work as nice as Daltons.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:56?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

Also has some change gears, collets,? thread dial indicator, face plate, collet draw bar. How many daltons are knots have this type of tailstock l?

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 5:08 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

One other little bit of information about the overhead drives Dalton built.? These drives were used on all m models?of Daltons except the TL as it had a different?design drive if ordered with the overhead setup.? So the silent chain drives were very large and looked huge when mounted on the little Lot 4 or Lot 5.? Nots so much on the Lot 6 or Dalton 9.? The overhead drive you see in my video is mounted on a Lot 6 but is the identical drive to what is on Ricks Lot 5.? Dennis.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:00?PM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:

Rick if you ordered your Dalton with the overhead drive and for bench mount you got the much larger bed feet to support the large weight up high. I had a set of these but both had been broken and poorly welded?back together.? Gray Pilgrim now has that lathe..? Or AK Bart, another Oregon Dalton owner:-))))) The pictures show what this lathe looked like when? I picked it up in San Francisco.? This lathe was given to me all I had to do was pick it up.? As you can see this lathe has the third version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? What is missing is a large guard casting that covers the two silent chain drives.? There was a gear setup at the end of the motor shaft where you shifted gears for reveres. The motor shaft had one sprocket?for the silent chain and also a gear for driving the reverse?setup. It was like the other two drives way over engineered and was?complicated and prone to lots of noise?and wear.? Also these overhead derives?coast as much as the lathe did.

Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:20?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

This lathe also has larger bed feet a draw bar for the headstock and the lever operated tailstock.?

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:57 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Picture was taken in the front entry of Turk Mfg. Hillsboro Oregon where it was displayed with many other machines that I have restored.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:54?AM Dennis Turk <dennisturk448@...> wrote:

If you have looked at the photo of my later model Lot 5 you will note the clutch lever is now located differently.? This drive only has one clutch for on and off function.? The motor is operated by a large forward reverse?switch mounted on the back side of the drive vertical column?and is operated by moving the wood handle you see on the back side of the lathe.? It's a bit odd that not only did the drive have a clutch but the motor start stop and reverse function was controlled by a switch.? Answer,? The clutch freed?up the countershaft from the silent chain and motor making it easier to rotate the spindle by hand for setups. This lathe was found at the very tip of the ponisia that runs North from Green Bay up into lake Michigan.? Was owned by a retired teacher that had had it for over 50 years but had never set it up to run in all that time.? He said he did move it three times in the 50 years.? So for sure this lathe has not cut a chip in over 75 years.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:44?AM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Rick

Your Lot 5 is equipped with the first generation?overhead?drive.? I see you're missing the little disk that gave you access to adjusting the clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6 also has this drive but I have an early 1922 Lot 5

with the next version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? PIcture included.? If you have run your lathe you will? note the noise?that comes from the silent chain drive.? I have always found the name?silent chain kind of funny as they are noise?as heck.? My Lot 6 is as close to brand new as one could possibly find and it's?still noisy.? Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

Picked this up in Massachusetts today.

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On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:16 PM, Rick Clayton via groups.io

<rjc112979@...> wrote:

it has a 1hp century motor. I took this lathe apart and put it in the back of my pickup truck with only a floor Jack, no hoists by myself.?

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:01 PM, Rick Clayton via groups.io

<rjc112979@...> wrote:

I have three 13 x 5's, one has a Manley overhead drive on it that looks like it was made specifically for this lathe.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:58 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Hey Rick you have Blower and Forge lathes.? Which?ones do you have?? I have a 9L on floor legs but no drive.? Also have a parts lathe that a guy here in Oregon gave me.? I needed change gears and a tail stock for the one I restored?and the parts lathe gave me everything?I needed.? This is the 9 inch Blower and Forge lathe I? have.? I also have a 10 inch Blower and Forge that has the overhead drive and is on floors legs. This lathe I have not restored and is packed away right now.? I thought my 10 inch was the only one of that size known of what sizes do you have.? I also have never seen a 16 inch but have a couple of 13 inch models.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 9:51?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

I got my first Dalton 12 years ago.?

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:50 PM, Rick Clayton

<rjc112979@...> wrote:

I have 17 dalton lathes and 2 dalton combination machines. I love finding them.with different accessories. 4 champion blower and forge lathes including the only 16 x 8 one known to exist

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:44 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Hey Ralph, are you ever going to dig that Dalton out of storage and set it up?? Your friends?back at the NAMEs show said you also have a couple of clocks in your home.? Someone said you were a bit of a hoarder just like me?.? So I have had over sixty lathes in the last 30 years. How many clocks do you have:-)))))? I don't?remember you saying you had a lever tailstock?Ralph.? Yours make four then that we know of. It's a shame that the NAMEs show is no more.? My buddy? Ratshooter was with me when we met you there and have made good friends?with one of the board members from that show.? Karl Gross is his name and he is the one that conned Tim and me to come back to the show in 2016. Hope you're doing?well Ralph and again thank you for letting me use your lever collet closer for the Dalton I had at the NAMEs show and also used in the seminar that Ratshooter and I put on on Sunday morning.? Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 4:24?PM Ralph <rferone@...> wrote:

Dennis, I have a lever operated tailstock on my Dalton.

Ralph

Dennis Turk wrote:

Rick I have the?first lever operated tailstock?found way back in 2003 when I went to Susanville Comifornia?and picked up the first pedal lathe found.? I have all the history on? that lathe.? It is also one I have never restored. I believe there is one more lever?operated tailstock?out there I think. For you guys that have never used one of these kinds of tail stocks Dalton had the very?best one though SB as well as Atlas made one they just did not work as nice as Daltons.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:56?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

Also has some change gears, collets,? thread dial indicator, face plate, collet draw bar. How many daltons are knots have this type of tailstock l?

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 5:08 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

One other little bit of information about the overhead drives Dalton built.? These drives were used on all m models?of Daltons except the TL as it had a different?design drive if ordered with the overhead setup.? So the silent chain drives were very large and looked huge when mounted on the little Lot 4 or Lot 5.? Nots so much on the Lot 6 or Dalton 9.? The overhead drive you see in my video is mounted on a Lot 6 but is the identical drive to what is on Ricks Lot 5.? Dennis.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:00?PM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:

Rick if you ordered your Dalton with the overhead drive and for bench mount you got the much larger bed feet to support the large weight up high. I had a set of these but both had been broken and poorly welded?back together.? Gray Pilgrim now has that lathe..? Or AK Bart, another Oregon Dalton owner:-))))) The pictures show what this lathe looked like when? I picked it up in San Francisco.? This lathe was given to me all I had to do was pick it up.? As you can see this lathe has the third version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? What is missing is a large guard casting that covers the two silent chain drives.? There was a gear setup at the end of the motor shaft where you shifted gears for reveres. The motor shaft had one sprocket?for the silent chain and also a gear for driving the reverse?setup. It was like the other two drives way over engineered and was?complicated and prone to lots of noise?and wear.? Also these overhead derives?coast as much as the lathe did.

Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:20?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

This lathe also has larger bed feet a draw bar for the headstock and the lever operated tailstock.?

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:57 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Picture was taken in the front entry of Turk Mfg. Hillsboro Oregon where it was displayed with many other machines that I have restored.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:54?AM Dennis Turk <dennisturk448@...> wrote:

If you have looked at the photo of my later model Lot 5 you will note the clutch lever is now located differently.? This drive only has one clutch for on and off function.? The motor is operated by a large forward reverse?switch mounted on the back side of the drive vertical column?and is operated by moving the wood handle you see on the back side of the lathe.? It's a bit odd that not only did the drive have a clutch but the motor start stop and reverse function was controlled by a switch.? Answer,? The clutch freed?up the countershaft from the silent chain and motor making it easier to rotate the spindle by hand for setups. This lathe was found at the very tip of the ponisia that runs North from Green Bay up into lake Michigan.? Was owned by a retired teacher that had had it for over 50 years but had never set it up to run in all that time.? He said he did move it three times in the 50 years.? So for sure this lathe has not cut a chip in over 75 years.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:44?AM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Rick

Your Lot 5 is equipped with the first generation?overhead?drive.? I see you're missing the little disk that gave you access to adjusting the clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6 also has this drive but I have an early 1922 Lot 5

with the next version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? PIcture included.? If you have run your lathe you will? note the noise?that comes from the silent chain drive.? I have always found the name?silent chain kind of funny as they are noise?as heck.? My Lot 6 is as close to brand new as one could possibly find and it's?still noisy.? Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

Picked this up in Massachusetts today.

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On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:01 PM, Rick Clayton via groups.io

<rjc112979@...> wrote:

I have three 13 x 5's, one has a Manley overhead drive on it that looks like it was made specifically for this lathe.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:58 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Hey Rick you have Blower and Forge lathes.? Which?ones do you have?? I have a 9L on floor legs but no drive.? Also have a parts lathe that a guy here in Oregon gave me.? I needed change gears and a tail stock for the one I restored?and the parts lathe gave me everything?I needed.? This is the 9 inch Blower and Forge lathe I? have.? I also have a 10 inch Blower and Forge that has the overhead drive and is on floors legs. This lathe I have not restored and is packed away right now.? I thought my 10 inch was the only one of that size known of what sizes do you have.? I also have never seen a 16 inch but have a couple of 13 inch models.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 9:51?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

I got my first Dalton 12 years ago.?

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:50 PM, Rick Clayton

<rjc112979@...> wrote:

I have 17 dalton lathes and 2 dalton combination machines. I love finding them.with different accessories. 4 champion blower and forge lathes including the only 16 x 8 one known to exist

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:44 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Hey Ralph, are you ever going to dig that Dalton out of storage and set it up?? Your friends?back at the NAMEs show said you also have a couple of clocks in your home.? Someone said you were a bit of a hoarder just like me?.? So I have had over sixty lathes in the last 30 years. How many clocks do you have:-)))))? I don't?remember you saying you had a lever tailstock?Ralph.? Yours make four then that we know of. It's a shame that the NAMEs show is no more.? My buddy? Ratshooter was with me when we met you there and have made good friends?with one of the board members from that show.? Karl Gross is his name and he is the one that conned Tim and me to come back to the show in 2016. Hope you're doing?well Ralph and again thank you for letting me use your lever collet closer for the Dalton I had at the NAMEs show and also used in the seminar that Ratshooter and I put on on Sunday morning.? Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 4:24?PM Ralph <rferone@...> wrote:

Dennis, I have a lever operated tailstock on my Dalton.

Ralph

Dennis Turk wrote:

Rick I have the?first lever operated tailstock?found way back in 2003 when I went to Susanville Comifornia?and picked up the first pedal lathe found.? I have all the history on? that lathe.? It is also one I have never restored. I believe there is one more lever?operated tailstock?out there I think. For you guys that have never used one of these kinds of tail stocks Dalton had the very?best one though SB as well as Atlas made one they just did not work as nice as Daltons.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:56?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

Also has some change gears, collets,? thread dial indicator, face plate, collet draw bar. How many daltons are knots have this type of tailstock l?

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 5:08 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

One other little bit of information about the overhead drives Dalton built.? These drives were used on all m models?of Daltons except the TL as it had a different?design drive if ordered with the overhead setup.? So the silent chain drives were very large and looked huge when mounted on the little Lot 4 or Lot 5.? Nots so much on the Lot 6 or Dalton 9.? The overhead drive you see in my video is mounted on a Lot 6 but is the identical drive to what is on Ricks Lot 5.? Dennis.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:00?PM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:

Rick if you ordered your Dalton with the overhead drive and for bench mount you got the much larger bed feet to support the large weight up high. I had a set of these but both had been broken and poorly welded?back together.? Gray Pilgrim now has that lathe..? Or AK Bart, another Oregon Dalton owner:-))))) The pictures show what this lathe looked like when? I picked it up in San Francisco.? This lathe was given to me all I had to do was pick it up.? As you can see this lathe has the third version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? What is missing is a large guard casting that covers the two silent chain drives.? There was a gear setup at the end of the motor shaft where you shifted gears for reveres. The motor shaft had one sprocket?for the silent chain and also a gear for driving the reverse?setup. It was like the other two drives way over engineered and was?complicated and prone to lots of noise?and wear.? Also these overhead derives?coast as much as the lathe did.

Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:20?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

This lathe also has larger bed feet a draw bar for the headstock and the lever operated tailstock.?

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:57 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Picture was taken in the front entry of Turk Mfg. Hillsboro Oregon where it was displayed with many other machines that I have restored.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:54?AM Dennis Turk <dennisturk448@...> wrote:

If you have looked at the photo of my later model Lot 5 you will note the clutch lever is now located differently.? This drive only has one clutch for on and off function.? The motor is operated by a large forward reverse?switch mounted on the back side of the drive vertical column?and is operated by moving the wood handle you see on the back side of the lathe.? It's a bit odd that not only did the drive have a clutch but the motor start stop and reverse function was controlled by a switch.? Answer,? The clutch freed?up the countershaft from the silent chain and motor making it easier to rotate the spindle by hand for setups. This lathe was found at the very tip of the ponisia that runs North from Green Bay up into lake Michigan.? Was owned by a retired teacher that had had it for over 50 years but had never set it up to run in all that time.? He said he did move it three times in the 50 years.? So for sure this lathe has not cut a chip in over 75 years.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:44?AM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Rick

Your Lot 5 is equipped with the first generation?overhead?drive.? I see you're missing the little disk that gave you access to adjusting the clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6 also has this drive but I have an early 1922 Lot 5

with the next version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? PIcture included.? If you have run your lathe you will? note the noise?that comes from the silent chain drive.? I have always found the name?silent chain kind of funny as they are noise?as heck.? My Lot 6 is as close to brand new as one could possibly find and it's?still noisy.? Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

Picked this up in Massachusetts today.

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On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:58 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Hey Rick you have Blower and Forge lathes.? Which?ones do you have?? I have a 9L on floor legs but no drive.? Also have a parts lathe that a guy here in Oregon gave me.? I needed change gears and a tail stock for the one I restored?and the parts lathe gave me everything?I needed.? This is the 9 inch Blower and Forge lathe I? have.? I also have a 10 inch Blower and Forge that has the overhead drive and is on floors legs. This lathe I have not restored and is packed away right now.? I thought my 10 inch was the only one of that size known of what sizes do you have.? I also have never seen a 16 inch but have a couple of 13 inch models.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 9:51?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

I got my first Dalton 12 years ago.?

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:50 PM, Rick Clayton

<rjc112979@...> wrote:

I have 17 dalton lathes and 2 dalton combination machines. I love finding them.with different accessories. 4 champion blower and forge lathes including the only 16 x 8 one known to exist

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:44 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Hey Ralph, are you ever going to dig that Dalton out of storage and set it up?? Your friends?back at the NAMEs show said you also have a couple of clocks in your home.? Someone said you were a bit of a hoarder just like me?.? So I have had over sixty lathes in the last 30 years. How many clocks do you have:-)))))? I don't?remember you saying you had a lever tailstock?Ralph.? Yours make four then that we know of. It's a shame that the NAMEs show is no more.? My buddy? Ratshooter was with me when we met you there and have made good friends?with one of the board members from that show.? Karl Gross is his name and he is the one that conned Tim and me to come back to the show in 2016. Hope you're doing?well Ralph and again thank you for letting me use your lever collet closer for the Dalton I had at the NAMEs show and also used in the seminar that Ratshooter and I put on on Sunday morning.? Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 4:24?PM Ralph <rferone@...> wrote:

Dennis, I have a lever operated tailstock on my Dalton.

Ralph

Dennis Turk wrote:

Rick I have the?first lever operated tailstock?found way back in 2003 when I went to Susanville Comifornia?and picked up the first pedal lathe found.? I have all the history on? that lathe.? It is also one I have never restored. I believe there is one more lever?operated tailstock?out there I think. For you guys that have never used one of these kinds of tail stocks Dalton had the very?best one though SB as well as Atlas made one they just did not work as nice as Daltons.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:56?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

Also has some change gears, collets,? thread dial indicator, face plate, collet draw bar. How many daltons are knots have this type of tailstock l?

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 5:08 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

One other little bit of information about the overhead drives Dalton built.? These drives were used on all m models?of Daltons except the TL as it had a different?design drive if ordered with the overhead setup.? So the silent chain drives were very large and looked huge when mounted on the little Lot 4 or Lot 5.? Nots so much on the Lot 6 or Dalton 9.? The overhead drive you see in my video is mounted on a Lot 6 but is the identical drive to what is on Ricks Lot 5.? Dennis.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:00?PM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:

Rick if you ordered your Dalton with the overhead drive and for bench mount you got the much larger bed feet to support the large weight up high. I had a set of these but both had been broken and poorly welded?back together.? Gray Pilgrim now has that lathe..? Or AK Bart, another Oregon Dalton owner:-))))) The pictures show what this lathe looked like when? I picked it up in San Francisco.? This lathe was given to me all I had to do was pick it up.? As you can see this lathe has the third version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? What is missing is a large guard casting that covers the two silent chain drives.? There was a gear setup at the end of the motor shaft where you shifted gears for reveres. The motor shaft had one sprocket?for the silent chain and also a gear for driving the reverse?setup. It was like the other two drives way over engineered and was?complicated and prone to lots of noise?and wear.? Also these overhead derives?coast as much as the lathe did.

Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:20?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

This lathe also has larger bed feet a draw bar for the headstock and the lever operated tailstock.?

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:57 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Picture was taken in the front entry of Turk Mfg. Hillsboro Oregon where it was displayed with many other machines that I have restored.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:54?AM Dennis Turk <dennisturk448@...> wrote:

If you have looked at the photo of my later model Lot 5 you will note the clutch lever is now located differently.? This drive only has one clutch for on and off function.? The motor is operated by a large forward reverse?switch mounted on the back side of the drive vertical column?and is operated by moving the wood handle you see on the back side of the lathe.? It's a bit odd that not only did the drive have a clutch but the motor start stop and reverse function was controlled by a switch.? Answer,? The clutch freed?up the countershaft from the silent chain and motor making it easier to rotate the spindle by hand for setups. This lathe was found at the very tip of the ponisia that runs North from Green Bay up into lake Michigan.? Was owned by a retired teacher that had had it for over 50 years but had never set it up to run in all that time.? He said he did move it three times in the 50 years.? So for sure this lathe has not cut a chip in over 75 years.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:44?AM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Rick

Your Lot 5 is equipped with the first generation?overhead?drive.? I see you're missing the little disk that gave you access to adjusting the clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6 also has this drive but I have an early 1922 Lot 5

with the next version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? PIcture included.? If you have run your lathe you will? note the noise?that comes from the silent chain drive.? I have always found the name?silent chain kind of funny as they are noise?as heck.? My Lot 6 is as close to brand new as one could possibly find and it's?still noisy.? Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

Picked this up in Massachusetts today.

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On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:50 PM, Rick Clayton

<rjc112979@...> wrote:

I have 17 dalton lathes and 2 dalton combination machines. I love finding them.with different accessories. 4 champion blower and forge lathes including the only 16 x 8 one known to exist

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:44 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Hey Ralph, are you ever going to dig that Dalton out of storage and set it up?? Your friends?back at the NAMEs show said you also have a couple of clocks in your home.? Someone said you were a bit of a hoarder just like me?.? So I have had over sixty lathes in the last 30 years. How many clocks do you have:-)))))? I don't?remember you saying you had a lever tailstock?Ralph.? Yours make four then that we know of. It's a shame that the NAMEs show is no more.? My buddy? Ratshooter was with me when we met you there and have made good friends?with one of the board members from that show.? Karl Gross is his name and he is the one that conned Tim and me to come back to the show in 2016. Hope you're doing?well Ralph and again thank you for letting me use your lever collet closer for the Dalton I had at the NAMEs show and also used in the seminar that Ratshooter and I put on on Sunday morning.? Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 4:24?PM Ralph <rferone@...> wrote:

Dennis, I have a lever operated tailstock on my Dalton.

Ralph

Dennis Turk wrote:

Rick I have the?first lever operated tailstock?found way back in 2003 when I went to Susanville Comifornia?and picked up the first pedal lathe found.? I have all the history on? that lathe.? It is also one I have never restored. I believe there is one more lever?operated tailstock?out there I think. For you guys that have never used one of these kinds of tail stocks Dalton had the very?best one though SB as well as Atlas made one they just did not work as nice as Daltons.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:56?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

Also has some change gears, collets,? thread dial indicator, face plate, collet draw bar. How many daltons are knots have this type of tailstock l?

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 5:08 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

One other little bit of information about the overhead drives Dalton built.? These drives were used on all m models?of Daltons except the TL as it had a different?design drive if ordered with the overhead setup.? So the silent chain drives were very large and looked huge when mounted on the little Lot 4 or Lot 5.? Nots so much on the Lot 6 or Dalton 9.? The overhead drive you see in my video is mounted on a Lot 6 but is the identical drive to what is on Ricks Lot 5.? Dennis.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:00?PM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:

Rick if you ordered your Dalton with the overhead drive and for bench mount you got the much larger bed feet to support the large weight up high. I had a set of these but both had been broken and poorly welded?back together.? Gray Pilgrim now has that lathe..? Or AK Bart, another Oregon Dalton owner:-))))) The pictures show what this lathe looked like when? I picked it up in San Francisco.? This lathe was given to me all I had to do was pick it up.? As you can see this lathe has the third version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? What is missing is a large guard casting that covers the two silent chain drives.? There was a gear setup at the end of the motor shaft where you shifted gears for reveres. The motor shaft had one sprocket?for the silent chain and also a gear for driving the reverse?setup. It was like the other two drives way over engineered and was?complicated and prone to lots of noise?and wear.? Also these overhead derives?coast as much as the lathe did.

Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:20?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

This lathe also has larger bed feet a draw bar for the headstock and the lever operated tailstock.?

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:57 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Picture was taken in the front entry of Turk Mfg. Hillsboro Oregon where it was displayed with many other machines that I have restored.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:54?AM Dennis Turk <dennisturk448@...> wrote:

If you have looked at the photo of my later model Lot 5 you will note the clutch lever is now located differently.? This drive only has one clutch for on and off function.? The motor is operated by a large forward reverse?switch mounted on the back side of the drive vertical column?and is operated by moving the wood handle you see on the back side of the lathe.? It's a bit odd that not only did the drive have a clutch but the motor start stop and reverse function was controlled by a switch.? Answer,? The clutch freed?up the countershaft from the silent chain and motor making it easier to rotate the spindle by hand for setups. This lathe was found at the very tip of the ponisia that runs North from Green Bay up into lake Michigan.? Was owned by a retired teacher that had had it for over 50 years but had never set it up to run in all that time.? He said he did move it three times in the 50 years.? So for sure this lathe has not cut a chip in over 75 years.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:44?AM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Rick

Your Lot 5 is equipped with the first generation?overhead?drive.? I see you're missing the little disk that gave you access to adjusting the clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6 also has this drive but I have an early 1922 Lot 5

with the next version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? PIcture included.? If you have run your lathe you will? note the noise?that comes from the silent chain drive.? I have always found the name?silent chain kind of funny as they are noise?as heck.? My Lot 6 is as close to brand new as one could possibly find and it's?still noisy.? Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

Picked this up in Massachusetts today.

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On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:44 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Hey Ralph, are you ever going to dig that Dalton out of storage and set it up?? Your friends?back at the NAMEs show said you also have a couple of clocks in your home.? Someone said you were a bit of a hoarder just like me?.? So I have had over sixty lathes in the last 30 years. How many clocks do you have:-)))))? I don't?remember you saying you had a lever tailstock?Ralph.? Yours make four then that we know of. It's a shame that the NAMEs show is no more.? My buddy? Ratshooter was with me when we met you there and have made good friends?with one of the board members from that show.? Karl Gross is his name and he is the one that conned Tim and me to come back to the show in 2016. Hope you're doing?well Ralph and again thank you for letting me use your lever collet closer for the Dalton I had at the NAMEs show and also used in the seminar that Ratshooter and I put on on Sunday morning.? Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 4:24?PM Ralph <rferone@...> wrote:

Dennis, I have a lever operated tailstock on my Dalton.

Ralph

Dennis Turk wrote:

Rick I have the?first lever operated tailstock?found way back in 2003 when I went to Susanville Comifornia?and picked up the first pedal lathe found.? I have all the history on? that lathe.? It is also one I have never restored. I believe there is one more lever?operated tailstock?out there I think. For you guys that have never used one of these kinds of tail stocks Dalton had the very?best one though SB as well as Atlas made one they just did not work as nice as Daltons.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:56?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

Also has some change gears, collets,? thread dial indicator, face plate, collet draw bar. How many daltons are knots have this type of tailstock l?

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 5:08 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

One other little bit of information about the overhead drives Dalton built.? These drives were used on all m models?of Daltons except the TL as it had a different?design drive if ordered with the overhead setup.? So the silent chain drives were very large and looked huge when mounted on the little Lot 4 or Lot 5.? Nots so much on the Lot 6 or Dalton 9.? The overhead drive you see in my video is mounted on a Lot 6 but is the identical drive to what is on Ricks Lot 5.? Dennis.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:00?PM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:

Rick if you ordered your Dalton with the overhead drive and for bench mount you got the much larger bed feet to support the large weight up high. I had a set of these but both had been broken and poorly welded?back together.? Gray Pilgrim now has that lathe..? Or AK Bart, another Oregon Dalton owner:-))))) The pictures show what this lathe looked like when? I picked it up in San Francisco.? This lathe was given to me all I had to do was pick it up.? As you can see this lathe has the third version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? What is missing is a large guard casting that covers the two silent chain drives.? There was a gear setup at the end of the motor shaft where you shifted gears for reveres. The motor shaft had one sprocket?for the silent chain and also a gear for driving the reverse?setup. It was like the other two drives way over engineered and was?complicated and prone to lots of noise?and wear.? Also these overhead derives?coast as much as the lathe did.

Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:20?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

This lathe also has larger bed feet a draw bar for the headstock and the lever operated tailstock.?

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:57 PM, Dennis Turk

<dennisturk448@...> wrote:

Picture was taken in the front entry of Turk Mfg. Hillsboro Oregon where it was displayed with many other machines that I have restored.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:54?AM Dennis Turk <dennisturk448@...> wrote:

If you have looked at the photo of my later model Lot 5 you will note the clutch lever is now located differently.? This drive only has one clutch for on and off function.? The motor is operated by a large forward reverse?switch mounted on the back side of the drive vertical column?and is operated by moving the wood handle you see on the back side of the lathe.? It's a bit odd that not only did the drive have a clutch but the motor start stop and reverse function was controlled by a switch.? Answer,? The clutch freed?up the countershaft from the silent chain and motor making it easier to rotate the spindle by hand for setups. This lathe was found at the very tip of the ponisia that runs North from Green Bay up into lake Michigan.? Was owned by a retired teacher that had had it for over 50 years but had never set it up to run in all that time.? He said he did move it three times in the 50 years.? So for sure this lathe has not cut a chip in over 75 years.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:44?AM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Rick

Your Lot 5 is equipped with the first generation?overhead?drive.? I see you're missing the little disk that gave you access to adjusting the clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6 also has this drive but I have an early 1922 Lot 5

with the next version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? PIcture included.? If you have run your lathe you will? note the noise?that comes from the silent chain drive.? I have always found the name?silent chain kind of funny as they are noise?as heck.? My Lot 6 is as close to brand new as one could possibly find and it's?still noisy.? Dennis

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:

Picked this up in Massachusetts today.

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