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Dalton restoration parts and questions
Is their anyone on this group who has ...dare I say it..."parts
machines". I'm looking for a few bits and pieces to complete my lot 5. 1)Brass plates for thread chart,(need not be a factory item if one of you knows someone who may have reproduced the info onto their own plate) mabye a vintage distributors tag.(to fill the holes drilled into the swing door.) 2)The top of the compound slide (tool mounting base). Mine has been crashed a "couple times" by someone in the last eighty years or so:).It has a screw holding one edge of tool base slot and is missing a big chunk from the opposite sides edge.(in the "dove tail" sliding section) Did Dalton paint the raised lettering on their castings? I've read references to some of the members about it still being there on some of their finds, but have yet to see it reproduced on some of the nice restorations on the site. ......To Dennis; See what your nice pictures you forwarded to me has now caused? Thanks for a wonderful way to pass the winter doldrums, I'm almost finished with my "tune up" on the old girl, Just in time for sprin, when I'll be able to start on the Hendey Norton Universal. |
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Re: Three jaw chuck for a Dalton on eBay
john rosberg
Thanks, Dennis! just exactly what I need, and right down the road from me, as well! ? fingers crossed! John Rosberg
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Three jaw chuck for a Dalton on eBay
Dennis Turk
Hi all
Just thought i would give you guys a heads up on a old Dalton chuck on eBay. I have talked tot he seller and he said he had it for many years after he got rid of the lathe as it was wore out. Said he scrapped the lathe but kept the chuck but could not remember what the lathe was called that it went to. The item number is 250093111904 Dennis Turk |
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Re: Belt tension
If your counter shaft has slotted holes, you can slide it back to set
the tension. The belt needs to be fairly tight to prevent slipping. If you are just starting out with lathe work, it may be better if the belt was not super tight. If you have a crash, better to have the belt slip before things break. jim |
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Belt tension
Pete
I am starting to put together my B-4. I had to figure out the wiring on
the reverse/forward switch which didnt work. It now works.I was wondering how should i keep the tension between the lathe and the drive pulley? Is it common just to slide the two apart to create tension? How tight should the belt be? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. Pete |
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Re: Where to find other antique machinery sites
Mike,
There is an antique machinery section on the PRACTICAL MASCHINIST'S BOARD: Someone there may be able to help you with your miller. On your Dalton, there may be a formula at the bottom of the thread chart to calculate the feed rate with the clutch. On the B-6, the formula is: "FEED = .288" / THREAD" That means: with the gears set to cut 72 threads per inch, the feed rate with the clutch would be .004 / rev. ( .288/72 = .004) The formula on the Lot 5 / B-4 may be different. Jim |
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Re: Lot 5 S/N 405 found and logged.
Dennis Turk
开云体育Hi Mile
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OK on the back of your apron there is a hollow worm
gear that the lead screw passes through.? In this worm gear is a key that
the lead screw drives.? The worm gear drives a gear that has a clutch in it
that is activated by the knob on the front of your apron.? On the back side
of this driven worm gear is a spur gear that is engaged into the gear that
drives the hand wheel pinion gear that? engages the rack gear under the
bed.? When you turn the knob on the front to the right it will tighten the
clutch and the lead screw will drive this gear train giving you a very fine slow
feed rate to you saddle.? With the half nuts the feed rate is very fast and
will not give a good clean cut.? It also saves your half nuts and lead
screw threads just for threading so they do not ware out near as fast.?
Here is a pictures of kind of what the back side of you apron looks like.?
This is in fact the back side of a TL Dalton but yours is very
similar.
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AS you can see by the pictures there is no half
nuts because the TL Dalton was a none thread cutting lathe.? The lead screw
per say did not have any threads on it only a smooth shaft with a keyway.?
The TL was a very inexpencive lathe used for wood work and some limited metal
work.
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Turk
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Where to find other antique machinery sites
Anyone have any reccomendations for other old iron sites? I have a
Hendey-Norton Universal Miller Early 1900's vintage. Quite an amazing machine for it's age. Horizontal mill with vertical mill attachment. Variable speeds to powerfeed X&Y axis two speed manual z travel with a swiveling table. I'd like to find more about it. Most of the patent dates are from the late 1888-1899 years. Up until I moved it out of the shop this was a working machine. |
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Re: Lot 5 S/N 405 found and logged.
and the Number is?????
----Original Message Follows---- From: "oddball_racing" <oddball_racing@...> Reply-To: daltonlathes@... To: daltonlathes@... Subject: [daltonlathes] Lot 5 S/N 405 found and logged. Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:57:23 -0000 I've located the serial number on my Dalton Six. Although edstoller tried to help, I couldn't see what I think he sent as a photo. However, the curiousity got the best of me and I broke down the lathe to thoughly clean it up, all the while looking for the s/n. FYI it was stamed into the end surface of the far side bed rail. Thanks for the help, Mike |
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Lot 5 S/N 405 found and logged.
I've located the serial number on my Dalton Six. Although edstoller
tried to help, I couldn't see what I think he sent as a photo. However, the curiousity got the best of me and I broke down the lathe to thoughly clean it up, all the while looking for the s/n. FYI it was stamed into the end surface of the far side bed rail. Thanks for the help, Mike |
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Re: any other S/N location on a B-4?
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any other S/N location on a B-4?
As asked in my previous post I'm told to find the s/n of my Dalton Six
w/30"long bed on the right end (tailstock) of the far bed rail. I also saw evidence of this in one of the picture files. My lathe shows no sign of ever being stamped with anything in that area. Any other place I can look? |
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Re: New member seeking Dalton Six advice
Dennis Turk
开云体育Hi Jim
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Yes the babbit bearings are actually molded and
used as is? with a little scraping to fit the spindle.? The back side
of the bearings you can see the ejector pin marks so I know they came from a
mold. Quite actuate I mite add.
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Turk
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Re: New member seeking Dalton Six advice
OK Denny,
Are the babbit bearings in the B-4 in a removeable shell? If so, it would be easier to reduce the clearnce. For some reason I was thinking the babbit was just cast against the cast iron and then line bored. You're right about keeping the spindle centered.... I have shims under both the upper and lower bronze inserts in my lathe. good to see more Daltons showing up. Are you going to post some pics of the taper attachment on Greg's (now yours) B-6? later, Jim |
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Re: New member seeking Dalton Six advice
Dennis Turk
开云体育Hi Jim and all
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One thing to remember about these bearings is they
ware on the bottom as well as the top.? By dressing off the bearing cap and
or the bearing shell itself you will be lowering the spindle and getting it out
of alignment with the tail stock.? You may find that you will have to shim
between the bottom bearing and the casting.? This is standard practice in
correcting worn bearing problems.? I have seen many a plain bearing lathes
with shim under the bottom bearing.? You will find that you will have to do
this.? In doing this you will see that you will have to kiss of just a
little from the upper bearing were it sets on top of the lower
bearing.?? Now if there is clearance between the bearing shells and I
have seen this in a number of Daltons you will probably have to shim the upper
bearing in a like amount.
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Dennis Turk
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Ed Stoller