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Re: A few questions about my Lot 4
The small hole on the tail stock next to the spindle locking arm is for white lead.? The lathe came with a small brass knob that has a point that extended down into the small reservoir.? This was used for applying a small amount of white lead on your dead center when you were turning a part between centers.? I have found a number of these lathes with white lead residue in the bottom of the? hole.? White lead is carcinogenic and very hazardous to ones health. As your lathe is a Lot 5 and we think the Lot 5 started around 1921 or 22.? With a serial number? that high I am going out on a limb and say your lathe was built in around 1926.? Each Dalton Lot number carries its own sequential serial number list so your lathe is the 5179th Lot 5 lathe built.? Look at your thread chart on the end door does it give the NY address or the Sound Beach address.? If its Sound beach your lathe for sure was built after 1925 as that was the year Dalton moved into the new plant.? As to your drive belt stay with the one on the lathe in the picture you will find that the leather belt is prone to far more slippage than your Urethane belt is. The problem with the center not ejecting from the tail stock is that its to short.? If you can drill and tap the end of the center (if its not hard as a rock) and add a small screw so the lead screw has something to push against.? I have a number of tail stock tools that I? have added something to aid in ejecting even on my Harding lathe.? A small amount of wear on the bed will? not really bother you .? Not until the wear is extensive will you notice any problems.? As the bed wears in front of the chuck the center height changes slightly.? This will affect the diameter of the part your turning.? Unless your turning a very small part (1/8 and under) you should? not notice any problem.?? To check to see just how much bed wear you have run the saddle all the way to the left or put the tool right up next to the chuck.? Now lift the saddle up and see how much it moves.? Now move the saddle all the way to the tail stock end and do the same thing.? If you have bed wear in front of the chuck you will have vertical play but at the tail stock end were there is no wear you should have little to no play at all.? The difference in clearance between the two test points is how much the bed is worn. Dalton has anti lift shoes under the saddle but be advised that these also wear over time so you may see some movement at the tail stock end also.? When your lathe was new and with the way the factory fit the lathe you would see almost no lift of the saddle at all.? I have two Daltons that for all intent are brand new with no wear and the clearance between the under side of the bed and the anti lift shoes are negligible. One being a Lot 5 like yours and also a Lot 6 lathe I have.
On Monday, February 1, 2021, 03:27:31 PM PST, Ryan Bardsley <rbardsley@...> wrote:
Good evening, Well, I finally decided to move my Dalton into the basement after having problems with rust and freezing fingers trying to use my lathe in my unheated garage. I painted the floor and walls to help reduce moisture in there and I think it will come together nicely a new shop space. While moving my lathe, I came up with a few questions that I thought I'd ask the group about.?
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Re: Oldest Dalton has been found.
Hi Ryan,
I am actually down on Long Island not in Worcester( although that is where I want to go to college funnily enough). I appreciate the offer and might reach out with some questions as I start going through this thing in a couple of weeks. I don't really plan on restoring it cosmetically, but I do plan on thoroughly going through it on the mechanical side of things and trying my best to clean up that original finish for a nice patina! Thanks, Colin |
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A few questions about my Lot 4
Good evening,
Well, I finally decided to move my Dalton into the basement after having problems with rust and freezing fingers trying to use my lathe in my unheated garage. I painted the floor and walls to help reduce moisture in there and I think it will come together nicely a new shop space. While moving my lathe, I came up with a few questions that I thought I'd ask the group about.?
Ryan Manchester, MA |
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Re: Oldest Dalton has been found.
Hey Everyone,
I'm new here but the Lot 1 No. 4 lathe in the pictures is mine and I'm the "whipersnapper" you are all talking about. First off, I have no intentions of selling this thing. I made a deal with my friend who gave it to me(It didn't come from an estate sale) that if I ever decided that I didn't want it, I would return it to him. However, this thing is way too cool so I have every intention of cleaning it up and using it. I don't, however, intend on restoring it as of now as I currently don't have the time. (I'm a senior in high school, have way too many time consuming hobbies, and my own business to take care of lol.) This being said, just because I plan on using this lathe and not restoring it doesn't mean that I won't take care of it! I will make sure to totally go through this thing and give it a complete servicing as well as keeping it maintained. Although I am new to this and am only 17 year old, I am a quick learner, (especially with mechanical things) and know more about antiques and servicing things than most people my age do. I collect and revive antique small engines,have also been into antique ( pre 1942) cars since I was a toddler, and recently got into vintage trucks as well if that gives you all any idea. I get that many of you would rather see this thing restored in a museum(people said the same thing about me daily driving a 1971 Dodge with only 16711 original miles on it) but I believe that these machines were built to be used and? and that's what I intend to do. I will admit, however, that I am very much a beginner when it comes to lathes and machining and while I know several machinists who are going to teach me about using a lathe, I would greatly appreciate any help that some of you guys can offer when I start to get the lathe itself up and going again. ( I am very much looking forward it by the way!) I think many of you will find that I am not your average teenager and that this lathe will be well taken care of, not abused and broken. I will definitely be starting a new thread about reviving this thing when I get some free time over my next school break in a couple of weeks. Expect plenty of questions! :) - Colin |
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Re: 1918 Dalton Type B4 - with no serial #
开云体育Oh and also the compound. Let me know how the compound slide is attached to the cross slide. Can’t really tell in the photo.?On Jan 16, 2021, at 9:31 AM, John Roberts <jroberts321@...> wrote:
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Re: 1918 Dalton Type B4 - with no serial #
开云体育The lathe is a puzzle to me. Most all of it looks like a Lot 4. But the saddle cross slide does not. They look like a Lot 2.?On Jan 16, 2021, at 9:31 AM, John Roberts <jroberts321@...> wrote:
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Re: 1918 Dalton Type B4 - with no serial #
?John, On my B-4, ser.# is on the right end of the rear way.? Was hard to see on my lathe.? Norm
On Monday, January 25, 2021, 2:44:14 PM EST, John Roberts <jroberts321@...> wrote:
My 104 year old (born in 1916) Grandfather died last week and I now have a Dalton lathe that he owned and loved for most of his life. ? He told me the story of picking up the lathe during the Great Depression when - I believe he said - the lathe was being phased out or replaced by the shop (I believe in NY) - that had been using it. ? He died with a piece of brass still in the machine - he enjoyed making candle sticks with the lathe. I was trying to determine what lot and serial # were marked on the lathe - but I can’t seem to find it where I believe it should be. ? Here are some photos of the lathe and the area where I thought the serial # should have been. Any ideas what this lathe is and why there doesn’t appear to be a serial #? ? I measured the distance from the center of the work piece to the top rail - also shown below. |
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1918 Dalton Type B4 - with no serial #
John Roberts
My 104 year old (born in 1916) Grandfather died last week and I now have a Dalton lathe that he owned and loved for most of his life. ? He told me the story of picking up the lathe during the Great Depression when - I believe he said - the lathe was being phased out or replaced by the shop (I believe in NY) - that had been using it. ? He died with a piece of brass still in the machine - he enjoyed making candle sticks with the lathe. I was trying to determine what lot and serial # were marked on the lathe - but I can’t seem to find it where I believe it should be. ? Here are some photos of the lathe and the area where I thought the serial # should have been. Any ideas what this lathe is and why there doesn’t appear to be a serial #? ? I measured the distance from the center of the work piece to the top rail - also shown below. ? ? |
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1918 Dalton Type B4 - with no serial #
John Roberts
开云体育My 104 year old (born in 1916) Grandfather died last week and I now have a Dalton lathe that he owned and loved for most of his life. ? He told me the story of picking up the lathe during the Great Depression when - I believe he said - the lathe was being phased out or replaced by the shop (I believe in NY) - that had been using it. ? He died with a piece of brass still in the machine - he enjoyed making candle sticks with the lathe. I was trying to determine what lot and serial # were marked on the lathe - but I can’t seem to find it where I believe it should be. ? Here are some photos of the lathe and the area where I thought the serial # should have been. Any ideas what this lathe is and why there doesn’t appear to be a serial #? ? I measured the distance from the center of the work piece to the top rail - also shown below. |
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1918 Dalton Type B4 - with no serial #
John Roberts
开云体育My 104 year old (born in 1916) Grandfather died last week and I now have a Dalton lathe that he owned and loved for most of his life. ? He told me the story of picking up the lathe during the Great Depression when - I believe he said - the lathe was being phased out or replaced by the shop (I believe in NY) - that had been using it. ? He died with a piece of brass still in the machine - he enjoyed making candle sticks with the lathe. I was trying to determine what lot and serial # were marked on the lathe - but I can’t seem to find it where I believe it should be. ? Here are some photos of the lathe and the area where I thought the serial # should have been. Any ideas what this lathe is and why there doesn’t appear to be a serial #? ? I measured the distance from the center of the work piece to the top rail - also shown below. |
Dennis Turk
Colin
Dan Linscheid