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Re: Drawbar Question - too short

 

What collet nose adapter?are you using?? The original Dalton 3C adapter did not have a flange on it and was flush to the end of the spindle thread when installed.? the picture shows an original 3C adapter and thread guard.?


On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 1:52?PM pling via <pinglis74=[email protected]> wrote:
I have a late 20's B4-Lot 5 Dalton Lathe that I've restored.? I purchased a set of Dalton Collets along with the drawbar and collet adapter some time ago.? The drawbar appears to be too short by about 5/8".? From the shoulder to the end of the drawbar is just a bit shy of 9".? It appears to me that the drawbar should be about 9 1/2 or 9 5/8 inches from shoulder to end.? If someone in the group has a Dalton drawbar please measure it from the shoulder to the end.? I could make this one work by cutting back the shoulder to extend the reach of the bar but I'd like to understand the problem first.? The collets say 'Dalton' on them.? the adapter is unbranded and the drawbar has no name on it but it is clearly a vintage piece.? Was there an earlier Dalton lathe that had different (shorter) spindle dimensions?


Drawbar Question - too short

 

I have a late 20's B4-Lot 5 Dalton Lathe that I've restored.? I purchased a set of Dalton Collets along with the drawbar and collet adapter some time ago.? The drawbar appears to be too short by about 5/8".? From the shoulder to the end of the drawbar is just a bit shy of 9".? It appears to me that the drawbar should be about 9 1/2 or 9 5/8 inches from shoulder to end.? If someone in the group has a Dalton drawbar please measure it from the shoulder to the end.? I could make this one work by cutting back the shoulder to extend the reach of the bar but I'd like to understand the problem first.? The collets say 'Dalton' on them.? the adapter is unbranded and the drawbar has no name on it but it is clearly a vintage piece.? Was there an earlier Dalton lathe that had different (shorter) spindle dimensions?


Re: Dalton Lot 4 no. 2071 compound slide question

 

This picture shows the normal setup of the compound slide.? The lead screw?nut is at the right side of the lower casting.
As to the?scraping this is not what Dalton did rather this?lathe bed has been oil spotted something Dalton did not do.?
Dennis

On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 10:32?AM Charlie Earnest via <springgreensaws=[email protected]> wrote:

Hello,
Last summer I was given a Dalton lot 4 lathe (no. 2071) with a 36" bed by a friend who had owned it for a number of years. It was operational and fully functional, with a couple minor issues that others here have run into. This is my first lathe, of any kind. I have zero experience using a lathe. I'm not a machinist. I am, however, a guy who needed a lathe in order to manufacture my own hardware for the custom woodworking saws I make. Please excuse any mistakes I make in terminology or description. I have read enough to make me generally familiar with this type of lathe and I have now used it enough to know how much I don't know.?
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At the beginning of the year i decided to make a new base, replace the drive system (not original), completely breakdown, restore, and finally reassemble the lathe. It was quite a learning experience and I am glad I did it. This group was a huge help in answering questions I had and problems I ran into. Mostly. While the following has nothing to do with the lathe being functional or not, it does make repeatability an issue. At least for me. The compound slide appears to have the degrees marked on the wrong side of the base. With the handle on the right and the t- slot for the tool post on the left, the degree markings are on the far side and cannot be read. Based on the pictures I've been able to look at here, this does not seem to be correct and makes little sense to me. Has anyone run into this before? Unfortunately I cannot tell whether the captured bronze nut is simply mounted on the wrong side or whether the degree marks were put on the wrong side because I cannot find a picture showing the pieces in a way that can be used to verify which problem it is. Ultimately it does not matter but I am a curious sort of fellow so..... I figured I'd ask here. I've included some pictures of the lathe as it looks now, some great original scraping marks, and finally three pics of the issue I mentioned.
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Any help would be greatly appreciated and if further pics are needed I will be happy to provide them. Thank you.?
?
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Charlie Earnest?
Spring Green Saw Works


Re: Dalton Lot 4 no. 2071 compound slide question

 

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That is Beautiful guy. ?I too got a lot 4 as my first lathe. Mine was missing many parts (still is) I also had to build a base (used a old Dewalt saw stand), rebuilt the motor mount and pulley system nd put a different motor on it. ?Since then I have proven the proposition there is no such thing as just “one lathe” ( I own 4). The Dalton world teaches a bunch of new things. ?


On Feb 12, 2025, at 10:32 AM, Charlie Earnest via <springgreensaws@...> wrote:

Hello,
Last summer I was given a Dalton lot 4 lathe (no. 2071) with a 36" bed by a friend who had owned it for a number of years. It was operational and fully functional, with a couple minor issues that others here have run into. This is my first lathe, of any kind. I have zero experience using a lathe. I'm not a machinist. I am, however, a guy who needed a lathe in order to manufacture my own hardware for the custom woodworking saws I make. Please excuse any mistakes I make in terminology or description. I have read enough to make me generally familiar with this type of lathe and I have now used it enough to know how much I don't know.?
?
At the beginning of the year i decided to make a new base, replace the drive system (not original), completely breakdown, restore, and finally reassemble the lathe. It was quite a learning experience and I am glad I did it. This group was a huge help in answering questions I had and problems I ran into. Mostly. While the following has nothing to do with the lathe being functional or not, it does make repeatability an issue. At least for me. The compound slide appears to have the degrees marked on the wrong side of the base. With the handle on the right and the t- slot for the tool post on the left, the degree markings are on the far side and cannot be read. Based on the pictures I've been able to look at here, this does not seem to be correct and makes little sense to me. Has anyone run into this before? Unfortunately I cannot tell whether the captured bronze nut is simply mounted on the wrong side or whether the degree marks were put on the wrong side because I cannot find a picture showing the pieces in a way that can be used to verify which problem it is. Ultimately it does not matter but I am a curious sort of fellow so..... I figured I'd ask here. I've included some pictures of the lathe as it looks now, some great original scraping marks, and finally three pics of the issue I mentioned.
?
Any help would be greatly appreciated and if further pics are needed I will be happy to provide them. Thank you.?
?
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Charlie Earnest?
Spring Green Saw Works


Dalton Lot 4 no. 2071 compound slide question

 

Hello,
Last summer I was given a Dalton lot 4 lathe (no. 2071) with a 36" bed by a friend who had owned it for a number of years. It was operational and fully functional, with a couple minor issues that others here have run into. This is my first lathe, of any kind. I have zero experience using a lathe. I'm not a machinist. I am, however, a guy who needed a lathe in order to manufacture my own hardware for the custom woodworking saws I make. Please excuse any mistakes I make in terminology or description. I have read enough to make me generally familiar with this type of lathe and I have now used it enough to know how much I don't know.?
?
At the beginning of the year i decided to make a new base, replace the drive system (not original), completely breakdown, restore, and finally reassemble the lathe. It was quite a learning experience and I am glad I did it. This group was a huge help in answering questions I had and problems I ran into. Mostly. While the following has nothing to do with the lathe being functional or not, it does make repeatability an issue. At least for me. The compound slide appears to have the degrees marked on the wrong side of the base. With the handle on the right and the t- slot for the tool post on the left, the degree markings are on the far side and cannot be read. Based on the pictures I've been able to look at here, this does not seem to be correct and makes little sense to me. Has anyone run into this before? Unfortunately I cannot tell whether the captured bronze nut is simply mounted on the wrong side or whether the degree marks were put on the wrong side because I cannot find a picture showing the pieces in a way that can be used to verify which problem it is. Ultimately it does not matter but I am a curious sort of fellow so..... I figured I'd ask here. I've included some pictures of the lathe as it looks now, some great original scraping marks, and finally three pics of the issue I mentioned.
?
Any help would be greatly appreciated and if further pics are needed I will be happy to provide them. Thank you.?
?
--
Charlie Earnest?
Spring Green Saw Works


Re: Dalton lathe

 

Also look at how thin the bottom?casting for the tail stock?is.? This confirmed?its a Lot 2 as the swing on a Lot 2 is 6 inches a Lot 3 7 1/4.


On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 11:21?AM Dennis Turk <dennisturk448@...> wrote:
Yes the compound looks to be the lot two series.? Lot 3 used the same bed and other parts from the Lot two but had? different? cross slide and compound slice more like a Lot 4. Blew?the picture op a bit.?

On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 11:17?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:
Maybe a lot 3? No serial # or lot # on the bed.


Re: Dalton lathe

 

Yes the compound looks to be the lot two series.? Lot 3 used the same bed and other parts from the Lot two but had? different? cross slide and compound slice more like a Lot 4. Blew?the picture op a bit.?


On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 11:17?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:
Maybe a lot 3? No serial # or lot # on the bed.


Re: Dalton lathe

 

Maybe a lot 3? No serial # or lot # on the bed.


Re: Dalton lathe

 


Re: Dalton lathe

 

Here's what I believe is a lot 2 for sale. I asked them for the serial number they couldn't find it


Re: Dalton lathe

 

Little better view of the two lathes.?


On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 10:48?AM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448=[email protected]> wrote:
Boy now there is a rare one.? I have a really bad one and I know of two others so that makes four.? I have always felt that this model turned out to be too expensive?to build given the market they were targeting.? This looks to be the only complete one we have seen as the other three are far from complete machines. Thanks for sharing Rick.?

On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 10:43?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:


Re: Dalton lathe

 

Boy now there is a rare one.? I have a really bad one and I know of two others so that makes four.? I have always felt that this model turned out to be too expensive?to build given the market they were targeting.? This looks to be the only complete one we have seen as the other three are far from complete machines. Thanks for sharing Rick.?


On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 10:43?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:


Re: Dalton lathe

 


Re: Dalton lathe

 

Dennis there's a lot 5 serial # 55 for sale one of the first 100.


Re: Dalton lathe

 


Re: Dalton lathe

 

It measures as a lot 6 but doesn't say it on the bed.


Re: Dalton lathe

 

Rick this is the?first one with the most complete overhead double silent chain drive we have seen.? ?Usually one or two?of the guards are missing. Lot 6 or Dalton 9 I can't tell from the photo.? Dennis


On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 5:02?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979=[email protected]> wrote:
Picked this up when I was in upstate NY.


Dalton lathe

 

Picked this up when I was in upstate NY.


Re: Dalton six

 

Lot 4 guessing about 1920 production.? What's the serial?number on the end of the rear bed way?? Has most of its original countershaft? drive setup.? There are 15 change gears that came with the lathe with two 24 teeth and one 96 tooth. The 96 tooth only used for power feed not threading.? Looks to be in original finish overall quite nice and original
Dennis?

On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 5:07?PM Clay McWhorter via <Customoutdoorsman=[email protected]> wrote:

Ran across this dalton six in what appears to be great shape. Has 3 different size chucks, a box of gears?


Dalton six

 

Ran across this dalton six in what appears to be great shape. Has 3 different size chucks, a box of gears?