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Re: Photos added

Dennis Turk
 

Hi All

Well now Mr. Wright has a very rare Dalton indeed. Also one of the
most complete Lot 2 machines we have seen. As top collector of
Dalton's I only have a few parts to one but he has the complete lathe
with lots of bits and pieces. Looks Good Ron and thanks for posting
pictures.

One other thing Ron does your lathe have a nose piece to hold the
collets or do they seat right into the end of the spindle. I have a
Lot 2 spindle were Dalton put the collet seat right into the spindle in
place of the 3MT. I have never seen another one like it.

Dennis Turk




--- In daltonlathes@..., "Ron Wright" <refwright@...> wrote:

Hi everyone, My name is Ron Wright from Worcestershire England. I
have
just added pics of my LOT2 No-205. I bought it as a box of bits about
18 years ago. I have several lathes so this one is simply a
collectors
item. It came with chuck, face plate, 32 collets and closer and 30
change wheels. Only just found this site so didn't know Dalton's had
an
enthusiastic following.


Happy Anniversary Dalton Group

 

This group in now 2 years old and we have 59 members

Sooo HAPPY ANNIVERSARY

Ron Peeler
Moderator


Photos added

Ron Wright
 

Hi everyone, My name is Ron Wright from Worcestershire England. I have
just added pics of my LOT2 No-205. I bought it as a box of bits about
18 years ago. I have several lathes so this one is simply a collectors
item. It came with chuck, face plate, 32 collets and closer and 30
change wheels. Only just found this site so didn't know Dalton's had an
enthusiastic following.


Re: pics

Dennis Turk
 

Hi Guys

If you take a look at Marks pictures you will see that his Dalton is a
very early 1914 Lot 4. I say early because it has a Lot 3 compound on
it and the cross side screw does not mount like all the rest I have
seen. Marks lathe does not have a screw in mount rather a some what
odd mount that he needs to post some pictures of. really bizzar.

I have also seen pictures of a Lot 5 in Canada that is also a very nice
lathe one of the best originals I have seen. Marks is one of the most
original nicest condition very early lathes I have seen.

On another note I will be leaving in the first part of may to travel
back to Wisconsin to pickup the very nice Lot 4 with overhead drive
that I won on eBay a week or so ago. On that trip I will end up in
Oakmont Pa were I will pick up the Lot 8 9 1/2 by 48 inch Dalton which
is the only one we have ever seen.

Turk

--- In daltonlathes@..., "Mark E. Frazier"
<markefrazier@...> wrote:

I just put some pics of the dalton here I recently aquired. I won't
be doing a full blown restoration but will be cleaning it up and
making
a few repairs. It is just temporarily set up in the pics to see how
it
runs. I will be moving it into my small shop in the spare room in my
house as its permanent home. I will post more pics then.


pics

Mark E. Frazier
 

I just put some pics of the dalton here I recently aquired. I won't
be doing a full blown restoration but will be cleaning it up and making
a few repairs. It is just temporarily set up in the pics to see how it
runs. I will be moving it into my small shop in the spare room in my
house as its permanent home. I will post more pics then.


Re: this is facinating

 

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Morning Mark
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?? Where are you located.? Any Pictures?
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I look at all the restored Daltons nicely painted and get a little?depressed that mine doesn't look that good.? I use my Dalton for turning Brass and Nickle Silver ferrules so its kinda into a small production mode. Maybe later this year after I have? some ferrules stockpiled, I might have enough down time to make it look all nice and pretty. But in the meantime, I'm producing parts.
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Ron Peeler
Peeler Fifes
Moodus Ct
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B-4 owner



To: daltonlathes@...
From: markefrazier@...
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 23:20:37 +0000
Subject: [daltonlathes] this is facinating

Just want to say hi to everyone. I just aquired a lot#4 ; no. 300
Dalton lathe in very good condition. In searching the internet for
info, I stumbled onto Oldarn.com where I found Dennis Turk who gave me
a wealth of information. I had no idea this machine was such a
celebrity. I bought this one as the main machine in my home shop. It
seems to be a well built lathe.




Get in touch in an instant.


this is facinating

Mark E. Frazier
 

Just want to say hi to everyone. I just aquired a lot#4 ; no. 300
Dalton lathe in very good condition. In searching the internet for
info, I stumbled onto Oldarn.com where I found Dennis Turk who gave me
a wealth of information. I had no idea this machine was such a
celebrity. I bought this one as the main machine in my home shop. It
seems to be a well built lathe.


Re: Lot 4 B-4 in Wisconsin

Dennis Turk
 

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Hi Ralph
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You can see a couple of my Daltons on Tony Griffiths Dalton site and the one on the home page of Andy Sargents web site is the very first Dalton I found and I restored that one in the late 90's
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Dennis

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] Lot 4 B-4 in Wisconsin

Dennis

Is your display on line?


Ralph

Dennis Turk wrote:

Hi All

Well I did it again. I won the lathe that was up for bid with the
overhead drive. The wife and later this spring will be traveling to
Wisconsin and Ohio. I will finally get a chance I hope to meet Andy
Sargent and also Steve Wells of the South Bend group. I will be
hauling a load of lathe stuff East and then bringing the Dalton home
from Wisconsin. The Wisconsin lathe should make a great display and
will be added to the other Dalton's on display at Turk Mfg. Inc. in
Hillsboro Oregon.

Will keep you posted on how things turn out.

Dennis Turk.


Re: Lot 4 B-4 in Wisconsin

 

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Dennis

Is your display on line?


Ralph

Dennis Turk wrote:

Hi All

Well I did it again. I won the lathe that was up for bid with the
overhead drive. The wife and later this spring will be traveling to
Wisconsin and Ohio. I will finally get a chance I hope to meet Andy
Sargent and also Steve Wells of the South Bend group. I will be
hauling a load of lathe stuff East and then bringing the Dalton home
from Wisconsin. The Wisconsin lathe should make a great display and
will be added to the other Dalton's on display at Turk Mfg. Inc. in
Hillsboro Oregon.

Will keep you posted on how things turn out.

Dennis Turk.


Lot 4 B-4 in Wisconsin

Dennis Turk
 

Hi All

Well I did it again. I won the lathe that was up for bid with the
overhead drive. The wife and later this spring will be traveling to
Wisconsin and Ohio. I will finally get a chance I hope to meet Andy
Sargent and also Steve Wells of the South Bend group. I will be
hauling a load of lathe stuff East and then bringing the Dalton home
from Wisconsin. The Wisconsin lathe should make a great display and
will be added to the other Dalton's on display at Turk Mfg. Inc. in
Hillsboro Oregon.

Will keep you posted on how things turn out.

Dennis Turk.


Re: dalton 36" w/ most orig tooling on ebay

Dennis Turk
 

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Hi All
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Donald is sending me copies of all the literature he has as most of it is new to us.? I will send it to Andy so he can get it up on the web site.? The lathe Donald has is pick up only and I am anticipating a trip from Oregon to Wisconsin to get it if I decide to bid on it and can? win it.? Donald and I have had numerous conversations by email and phone about his lathe.? he inherited it from a friend that died and has no interest or knowledge of it.? Most of what he has in his description is what I gave him or he got off Tony's site in England.
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The overhead drive on Donald's lathe is similar to but unlike any we have seen up till now.? I think this was an evolution from forward reveres being handled by clutches and gears to a forward reveres switch and so all the really troublesome parts to these early drives were replaced with just a switch and simple?belt and silent chain.? The long lever hanging down from the left of the drive is for tensioning the belt.? It is in fact the old lever that was used on the models with clutches.
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The Lot 8 91/2 inch should be crated for delivery to Forward Air next week so I am looking forward to seeing this?unknown lathe.? last year there were some parts to a 9 1/2 inch on eBay and I got all of them.? There was the lower half of the end door with perfect tags a set of change gears a chuck and one head stock clamp. The seller tried to find the rest of the lathe but again it was a death of an old fellow that had it and the widow or children disposed of it and what we got was all that was left.? It was not sold it was dumped at the land fill.? They just missed the parts that I got or they would have been gone also.? By the looks of the end door and the change gears the lathe must have been in great shape.? Such a shame.
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Keep you all posted on the lot 8 when it gets here.
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Dennis Turk

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 3:30 PM
Subject: [daltonlathes] dalton 36" w/ most orig tooling on ebay

Just back from a sled adventure up north and found this in my Email.
Really nice 1920 s/n 2564 a good looker too;Comes complete with
original legs and overhead drive collets etc. no bids as yet either
w/an opener at 400 item 150225994157. no alliliation to me, just
thought I'd share with members. P.S 12 good pix with some copies of
original literature too.(located in Wisconsin area)


dalton 36" w/ most orig tooling on ebay

 

Just back from a sled adventure up north and found this in my Email.
Really nice 1920 s/n 2564 a good looker too;Comes complete with
original legs and overhead drive collets etc. no bids as yet either
w/an opener at 400 item 150225994157. no alliliation to me, just
thought I'd share with members. P.S 12 good pix with some copies of
original literature too.(located in Wisconsin area)


Dalton Member banned

 

Sorry for letting the spammer in. If I did everything right, he has
been banned.

Ron
Dalton Group Moderator
B-4 Owner


The elusive 9 1/2 by 48 inch Dalton finally found

Dennis Turk
 

Hi guys

Well we have finally found a 9 inch Dalton. Its sitting 15 miles from
Pittsburgh and was on eBay very briefly yesterday but a quick email and
a phone call secured the lathe for restoration and display.

The lathe is a bench model with no drive or any accessories that we
know of so far. The lathe at one time had a lever collet closer on it
but now has a hand wheel closer with nose piece and thread protector
but little ells. Last year I found an end door and a set of change
gears and one head stock clamp to a 9 inch and up till now that is all
we had.

The Lathe will be moved to Oregon by Forward Air in a few weeks and I
can do a proper assessment and let all know what we have.

This lathe has been in the owners family for a very long time and is
being sold by the grandson of the original owner. We do not know as
yet if he was the original purchaser or not. The lathe is a post 1925
constructed lathe as it has South Beach CT on the gear chart.

I will put a few picture of it up on my photo site for you guys to take
a look at.



Will post more information on the lathe as soon as I find out more
about it.

Dennis Turk


Re: thanks for the photos guys,but.....

 

Without seeing the collets, it's difficult to say what you have. There
are collet chucks that don't use a draw bar. I'm thinking of spring
collets and flex collets. But I'm not familiar with ones used on small
threaded spindles.

jim


thanks for the photos guys,but.....

 

....perhaps my lathe was used differenly. I have in my box of goodies,
a bunch of collets and an adapter like a morse 1-2 that fits in the
spindle. There are no threads on the collets to take them up tight. I
think perhaps there may have been like a cap type collar that would go
onto the spindle threads with a counter bore to help the
aligning/centering issue. Not exactly a quick change collet though!
Anyone familiar with this set-up. If it is what I think it is, I am
apparently missing said collar I guess. any opinions?


Re: I need collet closer parts photos.

Dennis Turk
 

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Hi Mike and Jim
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Yes the Lot 2 3 4 and? 5 only use 3C collets.? The Lot 6 and the we think Lot 7 or 8 (unfound models) used the 3C and the 4C.
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Ya know Jim I am still fussing over us not getting that really odd 11 inch Dalton down in Florida.? Just could not make the guy understand what he had and what should be done with it.? Money was all he was after.? Bugger.
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I did not tell you that Lot 5 that was up one eBay for two days I think four months or so ago I did get the rest of the lathe.? I have the tail stock legs (with Dalton Mfg. NY on it) and the head stock cabinet (with South Beach CT on it) all most ready to take to the museum and set up the Lot 5 that I have completed the restoration on.? The Lot 5 is the one I got about two or three years ago from NC.
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I will post some pictures after its setup.
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Turk
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Bonner
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 12:40 PM
Subject: [daltonlathes] Re: I need collet closer parts photos.

Mike,

I added some pics of my collet closer for my B-6. The album is Lot 6
s/n 167. If you have a Lot 4, I believe it only uses 3c collets. The
dimensions for 3c collets can be found here:



jim


Re: I need collet closer parts photos.

 

Mike,

I added some pics of my collet closer for my B-6. The album is Lot 6
s/n 167. If you have a Lot 4, I believe it only uses 3c collets. The
dimensions for 3c collets can be found here:



jim


I need collet closer parts photos.

 

Although the photo files are extensive, can anyone refer me to a
file, photo or sketch of the collet closer/holder parts? Whose machine
should I look closer at in the archives? Thanks Mike


Dalton lathe on eBay UK

Nick Griffiths
 

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Just noticed this nice example on eBay uk - item number 120212414766
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Regards,
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Nick