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Scott's Latne
Dennis Turk
Hi All
Well Scott's 1914 lathe sold yesterday. I have emailed the new owner and welcomed him to the Dalton gang. I was surprised that the lathe sold for that price. This is the highest price paid for a Dalton yet. I have not heard back from the person that used buy it now to purchase the lathe but I hope we do. There have been a number of Daltons sold on eBay over the years and most has not joined the group. I have emailed each one but with no response back. After September I am hoping to find the time to finish up the thread dial project. I know it has been a year in the works but just remember good things some time come slowly. Turk |
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Re: Change gears
Dennis Turk
Ops I ment to say you would need a 44 tooth not a 40 to have a
complete set. Also these gears fit a Lot 2 3 4 and 5 lathe --- In daltonlathes@..., "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...> wrote: gears that are correct for a Dalton lathe. I would like to sell the setsome new ones and the rest are used but all aver very serviceable gears.pitch thread and that is about the limit of what you can cut on a Dalton. |
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Change gears
Dennis Turk
Hi All
Just a note to let you all know that I have some Boston change gears that are correct for a Dalton lathe. I would like to sell the set first but if no takers I will brake them up and sell individuals. The set consist of the following gears. 1 each 32 - 36 - 40 - 48 - 52 - 56 - 60 - 64 - 72 plus a 20 tooth for use as a slower feed gear. The gears are mostly Boston but I think there is one or two Browning gears in the lot. There are some new ones and the rest are used but all aver very serviceable gears. You would need two each 25 tooth one 40 and a 96 tooth to have a complete set. The second 25 tooth gears is only used on a 12 pitch thread and that is about the limit of what you can cut on a Dalton. If you have a 25 and a 96 with this set you can cut every thread from 10 to 72 plus a few odd ones but missing the 12. I would like $75 for the lot and I will cover postage. Dennis Turk |
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Re: Dalton Lathe on Ebay
Dennis Turk
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi All
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No I did not make an offer.? Chris
Kirk?decided to keep the lathe till he can find a bigger one.? I am
just sending him a list of change gears as he has only what is on the
lathe.? Nice fellow that restores old hit and miss engines.? Probably
will end up helping him some way.? I still have a couple of gears left so I
will see what he has and go from there.
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Dennis
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Re: Chuck Mounting Question
Dennis Turk
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi john
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Here are a couple of pictures of the machineing of
a back plate I did on John Glands Datlon.? This may help a little to
understand.
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Dennis Turk
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Re: Chuck Mounting Question
Hello John,
I'll try to answer some of your questions. You may be able to use the backplate off your 3 jaw chuck if the diameters are larger than the finish diameters required for the 4 jaw chuck. If you are not aware of it, there are two outside diameters on the flange. The one that has the mounting bolts and a smaller one that fits into the counterbore (recess) in the chuck. ( if you haven't removed the backplate from your 3 jaw, be sure to index mark both the chuck body and backplate flange before disassembly. ) The spare backplate that you mentioned with the thicker flange may be a new one that hasn't been fit to a chuck. This one may be the better choice. The reason that it's best to fit the backplate on your own lathe is so that the backplate recess that fits into the chuck counterbore will be concentric and square to YOUR spindle. I don't know if the dimensions for the backplate will come with a new chuck. If not, you will have to measure the chuck counter bore dia and depth then cut the backplate to fit. Also, on a 4 jaw you will have to drill and tap the holes in the backplate. hope this helps, Jim --- In daltonlathes@..., "bomber60015" <john_rosberg@...> wrote: it doesn't look much younger than the lathe), and it's only in thethe one on the Union chuck, and is not drilled for any mounting |
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Chuck Questions
bomber60015
Good Morning Gents
I've another new guy question ¨C Before I get to it, thanks to all of you who've been kind and patient with my previous inquiries ¨C while I'm sure they are elementary to you folks, they were a bit daunting to me ¨C I appreciate your kindness and patience. O to the question ¨C I've gotten to the point that the 3-jaw Union Chuck that came with the lathe is now the weakest link in the accuracy chain (previous weakest link wsa me ;-} ). The scroll and backsides of the jaws are very worn (no surprise ¨C it doesn't look much younger than the lathe), and it's only in the accurate ballpark at one diameter setting (darned near maxed out). I've decided to spring for a decent 4-jaw chuck ¨C I read, with relief, though the spindle threads on these old nails IS oddball (I was scratching my head wondering why I couldn't seem to find a commercially available chuck that would mount up easily). Is there a reason I couldn't use the back plate off the Union chuck to mount the new 4-jaw? Also, among the rusty greasy bits that come with the latch is what appears to be a spare back plate. It mounts on the spindle very nicely, but the flange (is that the right term?) is thicker that the one on the Union chuck, and is not drilled for any mounting hardware. Could THIS be used to mount the new chuck? Lastly, I've seen references on the board here to getting a back plate and doing the mounting to the chuck on your own lathe. While this makes sense (getting maximum accuracy), I have no idea how to go about doing this . . .. any pointers? Thanks, in advance, for any assistance you may be able to render! John Rosberg |
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Chuck Mounting Question
bomber60015
Good Morning Gents
I've another new guy question ¨C Before I get to it, thanks to all of you who've been kind and patient with my previous inquiries ¨C while I'm sure they are elementary to you folks, they were a bit daunting to me ¨C I appreciate your kindness and patience. O to the question ¨C I've gotten to the point that the 3-jaw Union Chuck that came with the lathe is now the weakest link in the accuracy chain (previous weakest link wsa me ;-} ). The scroll and backsides of the jaws are very worn (no surprise ¨C it doesn't look much younger than the lathe), and it's only in the accurate ballpark at one diameter setting (darned near maxed out). I've decided to spring for a decent 4-jaw chuck ¨C I read, with relief, though the spindle threads on these old nails IS oddball (I was scratching my head wondering why I couldn't seem to find a commercially available chuck that would mount up easily). Is there a reason I couldn't use the back plate off the Union chuck to mount the new 4-jaw? Also, among the rusty greasy bits that come with the latch is what appears to be a spare back plate. It mounts on the spindle very nicely, but the flange (is that the right term?) is thicker that the one on the Union chuck, and is not drilled for any mounting hardware. Could THIS be used to mount the new chuck? Lastly, I've seen references on the board here to getting a back plate and doing the mounting to the chuck on your own lathe. While this makes sense (getting maximum accuracy), I have no idea how to go about doing this . . .. any pointers? Thanks, in advance, for any assistance you may be able to render! John Rosberg |
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Re: The Dalton papers - Hubert K Dalton history
oldarnmonger
Hey - He even owned a nice chunk of (gulp) Chrysler stock when he left
the world. Man - Between the considerable fortune he left his first ex and what he left for his last wife, I wish he was MY uncle! If anyone has any thoughts to pass on to Ms. Taylor, send them to me and I'll forward them. She declined to have her email addy plastered on the credits, but told me to forward any comments to her. Jim - I've still got to post the link to the Flint connections that old Hubert had on the history page. Thanks for the info. - Andy ...Who ownes 2 bow-ties and 2 Daltons and is happy with all of them. |
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Re: The Dalton papers - Hubert K Dalton history
Dennis Turk
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Jim and Andy
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Actually Hubert Dalton having some influence with
GM and more importantly Chevy is understandable.? We all know that Hubert's
lathes were not the best built by any means and so the history of the Chevy
division of GM is only carrying on a tradition of second or third best
products.? Yep just a tradition that has spanned over 90
years."-)))))? To all those Ford owneres isn't number one a great place to
be.-"))))))
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Turk
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The Dalton papers - Hubert K Dalton history
oldarnmonger
Okay fellas,
I've received the draft manuscript of Hubert K. Dalton's personal history from a most generous contributor, Gay Taylor, out in California. She did considerable research into old Hubert when she was a part of the Peck family (the family of Hubert's sister/nephew). Now that her life has moved on in different directions, she has chosen to share her research with those of us who have an interest in Dalton, the man, as well as his machines and inventions. It's now scanned into a 104 page (4 mb) PDF file and posted on the web at There are parts that are a little challenging to read, and the photos aren't great, but the original paper version is exactly the same. I tried to scan it in at a higher than normal resolution so nothing got lost. Seems to look as good as the paper version. I know a 4 mb file will be a hassle for those of us using dialup connections. If you need it on a CD, drop me a line. Hope you find Gay's manuscript on Hubert's life history as fascinating as I do. - Andy |
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Re: lead screw bushing
Dennis Turk
Hay dream on kid it ain't ever gunna happen. It goes to the grave
with me. Hay you ever going to answer my emails?? Turk Yeah, so when can I expect delivery of that Hardinge you've been storing out in your shop for me? I have space all cleared out in my basement, and I've been waiting for months! "-)) Dave |
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Re: lead screw bushing
Yeah, so when can I expect delivery of that Hardinge you've been
storing out in your shop for me? I have space all cleared out in my basement, and I've been waiting for months! "-)) Dave --- In daltonlathes@..., "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...> wrote: yes it did ship out today. Sorry Ron. Remember I am approaching the age of senility so you may have to just bare with me for a few years that I am still around."-)))) |
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Re: lead screw bushing
Dennis Turk
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOwe dam I meant to say Brad Thayer's countershaft
pulley assembly and yes it did ship out today.? Sorry Ron.? Remember I
am approaching the age of senility so you may have to just bare with me for a
few years that I am still around."-))))
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Turk
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Re: lead screw bushing
Hold on Mr Turk
You wrote "Well I have Ron Peelers counter shaft pulley with new shaft ready to ship off tomorrow. This will get his Dalton back into operation." Ahhh Not me. You have my face plate. As much as I would love a counter shaft pulley with new shaft, this one isn't mine. Ron P |
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Re: lead screw bushing
Dennis Turk
Hi Dave
OK the two arrows you I have not a clue as to what two holes would be there for. There should be a hole in the outer rim just opposite the zero mark and that is for a Tommy bar so you can remove the bushing from the saddle. Greg Fosmarks Lot 6 had two small bras pins in this same area and they were spring loaded so the dial would not rub on the bushing. Totally different setup than a Lot 2 3 4 or 5. Well I have Ron Peelers counter shaft pulley with new shaft ready to ship off tomorrow. This will get his Dalton back into operation. Just finishing up a 9 inch SB saddle cross slide and compound rebuild for a fellow up in Alberta Canada. Really great shape so was an easy fix. Still painting a lot of black parts so better get back to it. Turk --- In daltonlathes@..., "Dave" <dkirk_4@...> wrote: lead screw bushing. I think that's what this is called. It's the partthat screws into the saddle that the lead screw goes thru and the dialring would ride up against.The part that gets replaced at the TurkWorks and gets a little thrust bearing hidden in.They are at right angles to each other. They're kind of hard to see inthe pictures I posted in with my lathe files, so I lightened them alittle and drew little arrows to them.more stock for one more of these on Friday afternoon and all they hadwas a piece with two holes drilled in it so they put some pins in there?what you do if you accidentally drill a hole in the wrong place on a partyou need?computer. Damn thunderstorm again and this one sounds like a doozy! Theyjust won't leave us alone lately. |
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lead screw bushing
Hi guys,
I was just cleaning up some of the lot 5 parts and I got to the lead screw bushing. I think that's what this is called. It's the part that screws into the saddle that the lead screw goes thru and the dial ring would ride up against.The part that gets replaced at the Turk Works and gets a little thrust bearing hidden in. There are two pins thru the part of it where the 0 line is. They are at right angles to each other. They're kind of hard to see in the pictures I posted in with my lathe files, so I lightened them a little and drew little arrows to them. Anyone know what they're there for? They need just a little more stock for one more of these on Friday afternoon and all they had was a piece with two holes drilled in it so they put some pins in there? Practice job for one of the apprentice's? Like, Ok kid, here's what you do if you accidentally drill a hole in the wrong place on a part you need? Ok, I'm gonna post the pic's real quick and turn off my computer. Damn thunderstorm again and this one sounds like a doozy! They just won't leave us alone lately. Dave |
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