Re: A few questions about my Lot 4
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Ryan if an when you take the gear box apart when you seal it up take some pictures would love to see what the inside looks like. Oh did not answer your question about finish.? Japanning was not a very durable finish and in many cases we have seen most of it washed off the lathe.? Its not unusual to not see much of any of the Japanning under paint put on the lathe at a later date.? The gear box shows all the signs of being japanned but little is left.? ?Dennis
On Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 08:11:48 AM PST, Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@...> wrote:
Looked at the tag on the gear box again and have second thoughts.? The tag list one HP at 1800 rpm? 3/4 HP at 1200 rpm.? No listing for hp for the other two speeds.? So they are not spindle speeds but rather maximum input rpm for a given hp motor.? Does not make a lot of sense so probably wrong on all this.? The tag may have listed the rpm for a four step pulley that may have originally been on the out put side of the gear box.? Just guessing.? Hmmm a puzzle. Still neat though.? Question Ryan is the gear box output shaft 7/8 of an inch in diameter so the Dalton pulley fits right on or is it smaller and the pulley is bushed to fit?
Dennis
On Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 08:02:46 AM PST, Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@...> wrote:
Ryan that gear reducer is really neat.? Never seen one like it before.??
Now I find three things a mystery about your lathe.? OK first your patent tag.? It does not have the 1922 patent date on it and all Lot 5 lathes we have seen have the 1922 dated patent on it. Oh the 1922 patent is for the special end door hinge on the Dalton TL lathe and has nothing to do with the Lot 5 lathe Dalton just used the same tag on all Lot number machines.??
Second your thread chart tag.? We have seen the small overlay tag before but usually the small overlay tag has sound beach on it and covers the large tag with NY on it.? Yours is the other way around really odd.??
Third is the tag on the gear reducer as it looks like it was a Dalton made tag that it shows Boston gear on it, it also shows the spindle speeds you get with each belt position and that is something that Boston would not do so here is my take on that.? The gear reducer is a Dalton furnished item.? Dalton either installed the tag or when they ordered it from Boston had Boston put that tag on it. But the gear box is most definitely a Dalton provided item. Cool.? ?Darn you got a Dalton something I don't:-((((((??
I do have a Lot 6 lathe that was purchased in Seattle Washington and we have the sales invoice for it and when the first owner purchased the lathe he also purchased a South Bend silent chain drive to run it.? The lathe? is a 1929 built lathe and SB only built the silent chain drive bench mount drive in 1929 and 1930.? I knew what the drive was though its not listed as a SB on the invoice.
Dennis
On Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 06:07:18 AM PST, Ryan Bardsley <rbardsley@...> wrote:
Interesting! What on Earth were they thinking with their naming convention? So, I have a Type B-4, with a serial number that starts with 5, that is a 7 inch lathe? Hah!
My change gear cover seems "unfinished" and I'll include a pic. It only says "Dalton. I don't have the Dalton brass plates that attach to the front, but I'll attach pictures of the label plates I do have. Mine also came with a large Boston gear reduction box, but it leaks like a sieve. Before I install it in its new location I was going to see about sealing things up. I ran out of paint trying while giving everything a once-over. So, that's why it's only got a bit of gray on it. The lathe and gearbox had been painted in a bright green and blue at some point. I have never found any traces of black paint on it.?
Great tips on the dead centers. I'll see about getting those drilled and threaded at some point. I have to say, it's always exciting to get a new space setup. It's all nice and clean for a few hours...
Best,
Ryan
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Dennis Turk