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question regarding Commander

steve baughn
 

I am running an Icom 7800 which I had hooked up to DX Lab until about a year ago when we moved. I cannot remember for the life of me how I had it hooked up but am thinking a ran an RS-232 cable from the rig to the pc. I cannot get it to run now and am thinking perhaps I do not have the right cable. Can someone please advise this OM? Many thanks!

Steve, WD8NPL
 

+ AA6YQ comments below
I am running an Icom 7800 which I had hooked up to DX Lab until about a year ago when we moved. I cannot remember for the life of me how I had it hooked up but am thinking a ran an RS-232 cable from the rig to the pc. I cannot get it to run now and am thinking perhaps I do not have the right cable. Can someone please advise this OM?

+ You must connect a COM port on your computer to an Icom CI-V interface, which is in turn connected to the Remote jack on the backpanel of your IC-7800. You can build or buy the CI-V interface; see



+ If you have additional questions, don't hesitate to post them here.

? ? ? ? 73,

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Dave, AA6YQ
 

The IC-7800 has a DB9 jack marked RS-232C that provides a built-in
CI-V interface. You will need to set Miscellaneous (Others) Set Mode
(in the Icom Menu system) to CI-V in order to enable the CI-V function.

I can not find any reference whether use of the RS-232C interface
requires a "straight through", "Null Modem" or "Gender Changer"
type cable in the manual (whether the IC7800 is DTE or DCE).

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2025-03-22 1:30 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
+ AA6YQ comments below


I am running an Icom 7800 which I had hooked up to DX Lab until about a
year ago when we moved. I cannot remember for the life of me how I had it
hooked up but am thinking a ran an RS-232 cable from the rig to the pc. I
cannot get it to run now and am thinking perhaps I do not have the right
cable. Can someone please advise this OM?
+ You must connect a COM port on your computer to an Icom CI-V interface, which is in turn connected to the Remote jack on the backpanel of your IC-7800. You can build or buy the CI-V interface; see

+ If you have additional questions, don't hesitate to post them here.
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below

The IC-7800 has a DB9 jack marked RS-232C that provides a built-in CI-V interface.

+ You're right, Joe. Later Icom transceivers provide a USB connection with a built-in CI-V interface, but the IC-7800 provides an RS-232 connection with a built-in CI-V interface

73,

Dave, AA6YQ
steve baughn
 

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Good Morning All,

Still trying to get the 7800 wired up right to the pc to get DX Lab working. What I am using from the 7800 to the pc is a db9 straight through cable. In the 7800 manual it says the rs232 jack is wired as a modem (dce). Should the stright through cable work or do I need a null modem cable? Thanks,

Steve, WD8NPL

On 3/22/2025 1:30 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:

+ AA6YQ comments below
I am running an Icom 7800 which I had hooked up to DX Lab until about a year ago when we moved. I cannot remember for the life of me how I had it hooked up but am thinking a ran an RS-232 cable from the rig to the pc. I cannot get it to run now and am thinking perhaps I do not have the right cable. Can someone please advise this OM?

+ You must connect a COM port on your computer to an Icom CI-V interface, which is in turn connected to the Remote jack on the backpanel of your IC-7800. You can build or buy the CI-V interface; see



+ If you have additional questions, don't hesitate to post them here.

? ? ? ? 73,

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Dave, AA6YQ
 

Should the stright through cable work or do I need a null
modem cable?
Computer is generally DTE. Does the 7800 have a female DE9
RS-232 connector and the computer a male DE9 connector? If
so, a straight through (pin for pin) connection is appropriate.

It should work with connections for only pins 2,3 and 5 ...
make sure Commander and the IC-7800 are set for the same
CI-V address (6Ah default) and the same data communication
rate. DO NOT use the default AUTO in the 7800 - either
9600 or 19200 should work fine. Since only 2,3,5 are used,
Commander's Primary CAT Serial Port (and MultiRadio port if
used) should be 8,N,1, OFF/N, OFF/N ...

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2025-03-23 11:07 AM, steve baughn via groups.io wrote:
Good Morning All,
Still trying to get the 7800 wired up right to the pc to get DX Lab working. What I am using from the 7800 to the pc is a db9 straight through cable. In the 7800 manual it says the rs232 jack is wired as a modem (dce). Should the stright through cable work or do I need a null modem cable? Thanks,
Steve, WD8NPL
On 3/22/2025 1:30 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
+ AA6YQ comments below

??? I am running an Icom 7800 which I had hooked up to DX Lab until
??? about a year ago when we moved. I cannot remember for the life of
??? me how I had it hooked up but am thinking a ran an RS-232 cable
??? from the rig to the pc. I cannot get it to run now and am thinking
??? perhaps I do not have the right cable. Can someone please advise
??? this OM?


+ You must connect a COM port on your computer to an Icom CI-V interface, which is in turn connected to the Remote jack on the backpanel of your IC-7800. You can build or buy the CI-V interface; see



+ If you have additional questions, don't hesitate to post them here.

? ? ? ? 73,

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Dave, AA6YQ
steve baughn
 

Still trying to get Commander up and running with the Icom 7800. Am using a straight through DB-9 cable. have set the 7800 ci-v to on, ci-v address to 6A in both commander and the 7800 but still appears the radio/computer link is not there. Anybody got any ideas? Thanks,

Steve, WD8NPL

On 3/23/2025 11:50 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

Should the stright through cable work or do I need a null
modem cable?
Computer is generally DTE.? Does the 7800 have a female DE9
RS-232 connector and the computer a male DE9 connector?? If
so, a straight through (pin for pin) connection is appropriate.

It should work with connections for only pins 2,3 and 5 ...
make sure Commander and the IC-7800 are set for the same
CI-V address (6Ah default) and the same data communication
rate. DO NOT use the default AUTO in the 7800 - either
9600 or 19200 should work fine.? Since only 2,3,5 are used,
Commander's Primary CAT Serial Port (and MultiRadio port if
used) should be 8,N,1, OFF/N, OFF/N ...

73,

?? ... Joe, W4TV

On 2025-03-23 11:07 AM, steve baughn via groups.io wrote:
Good Morning All,

Still trying to get the 7800 wired up right to the pc to get DX Lab working. What I am using from the 7800 to the pc is a db9 straight through cable. In the 7800 manual it says the rs232 jack is wired as a modem (dce). Should the stright through cable work or do I need a null modem cable? Thanks,

Steve, WD8NPL

On 3/22/2025 1:30 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
+ AA6YQ comments below

??? I am running an Icom 7800 which I had hooked up to DX Lab until
??? about a year ago when we moved. I cannot remember for the life of
??? me how I had it hooked up but am thinking a ran an RS-232 cable
??? from the rig to the pc. I cannot get it to run now and am thinking
??? perhaps I do not have the right cable. Can someone please advise
??? this OM?


+ You must connect a COM port on your computer to an Icom CI-V interface, which is in turn connected to the Remote jack on the backpanel of your IC-7800. You can build or buy the CI-V interface; see



+ If you have additional questions, don't hesitate to post them here.

? ? ? ? 73,

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Dave, AA6YQ
steve baughn
 

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2025-03-25 20:22:08.824 > ? ?RadioFreq + theAdjustment ?= -0.01
2025-03-25 20:22:08.824 > CIVModule.SetXcvrFreq: NewFreq = -0.01, ?theBand = -1, ?QSYBand = -1
2025-03-25 20:22:08.824 > CIVModule.EnqueueXcvrCmd: Command = Wait
2025-03-25 20:22:08.832 > CIVModule.GetRadioSMeter: True
2025-03-25 20:22:08.841 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Frequency, count = 10
2025-03-25 20:22:08.842 > ? ?response timeout Request Frequency
2025-03-25 20:22:08.842 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd: 10 [Request Frequency] F = 0, M = 0, A = 0, A2 = 0
2025-03-25 20:22:08.843 > CIVModule.RequestFrequency
2025-03-25 20:22:09.048 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd: 18 [Wait] F = 0, M = 0, A = 0, A2 = 0
2025-03-25 20:22:09.253 > CIVModule.PollXcvr, Idle Mode = 9, PollCount = 12
2025-03-25 20:22:09.253 > CIVModule.RequestFrequency
2025-03-25 20:22:09.447 > CIVModule.PollXcvr, Idle Mode = 10, PollCount = 12
2025-03-25 20:22:09.448 > CIVModule.SendCommand: ?FE ?FE ?6A ?E0 ?1A ? 6 ?FD ?
2025-03-25 20:22:09.653 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 1
2025-03-25 20:22:09.827 > CIVModule.EnqueueXcvrCmd: Command = Wait
2025-03-25 20:22:09.828 > CIVModule.EnqueueXcvrCmd: Command = Request Frequency
2025-03-25 20:22:09.828 > CIVModule.EnqueueXcvrCmd: Command = Wait
2025-03-25 20:22:09.829 > CIVModule.EnqueueXcvrCmd: Command = Request Mode
2025-03-25 20:22:09.859 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 2
2025-03-25 20:22:10.065 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 3
2025-03-25 20:22:10.269 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 4
2025-03-25 20:22:10.467 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 5
2025-03-25 20:22:10.667 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 6
2025-03-25 20:22:10.871 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 7
2025-03-25 20:22:11.086 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 8
2025-03-25 20:22:11.286 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 9
2025-03-25 20:22:11.480 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 10
2025-03-25 20:22:11.481 > ? ?response timeout Request Data Submode
2025-03-25 20:22:11.481 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd: 18 [Wait] F = 0, M = 0, A = 0, A2 = 0
2025-03-25 20:22:11.684 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd: 10 [Request Frequency] F = 0, M = 0, A = 0, A2 = 0
2025-03-25 20:22:11.684 > CIVModule.RequestFrequency
2025-03-25 20:22:11.685 > CIVModule.SendCommand: ?FE ?FE ?6A ?E0 ? 3 ?FD ?
2025-03-25 20:22:11.886 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Frequency, count = 1
2025-03-25 20:22:12.103 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Frequency, count = 2
2025-03-25 20:22:12.294 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting respo

These are the errors showing up-hope this makes sense.
Steve, WD8NPL

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of steve baughn via groups.io <steve.baughn@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2025 4:50 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [DXLab] question regarding Commander
?
Still trying to get Commander up and running with the Icom 7800. Am
using a straight through DB-9 cable. have set the 7800 ci-v to on, ci-v
address to 6A in both commander and the 7800 but still appears the
radio/computer link is not there. Anybody got any ideas? Thanks,

Steve, WD8NPL

On 3/23/2025 11:50 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> > Should the stright through cable work or do I need a null
> > modem cable?
>
> Computer is generally DTE.? Does the 7800 have a female DE9
> RS-232 connector and the computer a male DE9 connector?? If
> so, a straight through (pin for pin) connection is appropriate.
>
> It should work with connections for only pins 2,3 and 5 ...
> make sure Commander and the IC-7800 are set for the same
> CI-V address (6Ah default) and the same data communication
> rate. DO NOT use the default AUTO in the 7800 - either
> 9600 or 19200 should work fine.? Since only 2,3,5 are used,
> Commander's Primary CAT Serial Port (and MultiRadio port if
> used) should be 8,N,1, OFF/N, OFF/N ...
>
> 73,
>
> ?? ... Joe, W4TV
>
> On 2025-03-23 11:07 AM, steve baughn via groups.io wrote:
>> Good Morning All,
>>
>> Still trying to get the 7800 wired up right to the pc to get DX Lab
>> working. What I am using from the 7800 to the pc is a db9 straight
>> through cable. In the 7800 manual it says the rs232 jack is wired as
>> a modem (dce). Should the stright through cable work or do I need a
>> null modem cable? Thanks,
>>
>> Steve, WD8NPL
>>
>> On 3/22/2025 1:30 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
>>> + AA6YQ comments below
>>>
>>> ??? I am running an Icom 7800 which I had hooked up to DX Lab until
>>> ??? about a year ago when we moved. I cannot remember for the life of
>>> ??? me how I had it hooked up but am thinking a ran an RS-232 cable
>>> ??? from the rig to the pc. I cannot get it to run now and am thinking
>>> ??? perhaps I do not have the right cable. Can someone please advise
>>> ??? this OM?
>>>
>>>
>>> + You must connect a COM port on your computer to an Icom CI-V
>>> interface, which is in turn connected to the Remote jack on the
>>> backpanel of your IC-7800. You can build or buy the CI-V interface; see
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> + If you have additional questions, don't hesitate to post them here.
>>>
>>> ? ? ? ? 73,
>>>
>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Dave, AA6YQ
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
 

?+ AA6YQ comments below
Still trying to get Commander up and running with the Icom 7800. Am using a straight through DB-9 cable. have set the 7800 ci-v to on, ci-v address to 6A in both commander and the 7800 but still appears the radio/computer link is not there. Anybody got any ideas?
+ Make sure Commander and your IC-7800 are set to the same baud rate.

+ You don't want "CI-V transceive" enabled, though enabling it would not prevent interaction

+ Contact Icom to determine the pinouts on the IC-7800's RS232 port (pins 2 and 3, specifically). Though I have an IC-7800, I used its CI-V remote port so that I can quickly switch to a backup transceiver if necessary.

? ? 73,

? ? ? ? ? Dave, AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below
2025-03-25 20:22:08.824 > ? ?RadioFreq + theAdjustment ?= -0.01
2025-03-25 20:22:08.824 > CIVModule.SetXcvrFreq: NewFreq = -0.01, ?theBand = -1, ?QSYBand = -1
2025-03-25 20:22:08.824 > CIVModule.EnqueueXcvrCmd: Command = Wait
2025-03-25 20:22:08.832 > CIVModule.GetRadioSMeter: True
2025-03-25 20:22:08.841 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Frequency, count = 10
2025-03-25 20:22:08.842 > ? ?response timeout Request Frequency
2025-03-25 20:22:08.842 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd: 10 [Request Frequency] F = 0, M = 0, A = 0, A2 = 0
2025-03-25 20:22:08.843 > CIVModule.RequestFrequency
2025-03-25 20:22:09.048 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd: 18 [Wait] F = 0, M = 0, A = 0, A2 = 0
2025-03-25 20:22:09.253 > CIVModule.PollXcvr, Idle Mode = 9, PollCount = 12
2025-03-25 20:22:09.253 > CIVModule.RequestFrequency
2025-03-25 20:22:09.447 > CIVModule.PollXcvr, Idle Mode = 10, PollCount = 12
2025-03-25 20:22:09.448 > CIVModule.SendCommand: ?FE ?FE ?6A ?E0 ?1A ? 6 ?FD ?
2025-03-25 20:22:09.653 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 1
2025-03-25 20:22:09.827 > CIVModule.EnqueueXcvrCmd: Command = Wait
2025-03-25 20:22:09.828 > CIVModule.EnqueueXcvrCmd: Command = Request Frequency
2025-03-25 20:22:09.828 > CIVModule.EnqueueXcvrCmd: Command = Wait
2025-03-25 20:22:09.829 > CIVModule.EnqueueXcvrCmd: Command = Request Mode
2025-03-25 20:22:09.859 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 2
2025-03-25 20:22:10.065 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 3
2025-03-25 20:22:10.269 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 4
2025-03-25 20:22:10.467 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 5
2025-03-25 20:22:10.667 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 6
2025-03-25 20:22:10.871 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 7
2025-03-25 20:22:11.086 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 8
2025-03-25 20:22:11.286 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 9
2025-03-25 20:22:11.480 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Data Submode, count = 10
2025-03-25 20:22:11.481 > ? ?response timeout Request Data Submode
2025-03-25 20:22:11.481 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd: 18 [Wait] F = 0, M = 0, A = 0, A2 = 0
2025-03-25 20:22:11.684 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd: 10 [Request Frequency] F = 0, M = 0, A = 0, A2 = 0
2025-03-25 20:22:11.684 > CIVModule.RequestFrequency
2025-03-25 20:22:11.685 > CIVModule.SendCommand: ?FE ?FE ?6A ?E0 ? 3 ?FD ?
2025-03-25 20:22:11.886 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Frequency, count = 1
2025-03-25 20:22:12.103 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting response from Request Frequency, count = 2
2025-03-25 20:22:12.294 > CIVModule.ExecuteNextXcvrCmd awaiting respo
?
These are the errors showing up-hope this makes sense.
+ Those aren't error reports, those are diagnostics reported when you enable "Log debugging info". They indicate that Commander is not receiving responses from your IC-7800.

? ? ? ? 73,

? ? ? ? ? ?Dave AA6YQ

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