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QRZ subscription value?
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I'm getting back into the hobby and am interested in DXing.? I currently have little interest in QRZ awards.? I'm guessing that QRZ will help with information useful when seeking QSL cards from ops who don't use LotW.? LotW is my primary QSL route.? More than 10 years ago I sought paper QSL cards and expect to do so now for needed QSLs.? I just received a WAZ award due to my old QSL card collection and LotW. Is QRZ relevant today and is there an advantage to buying a Premium subscription to avoid ads?? I'm considering getting a subscription and API to use in DXKeeper/DXLab. Thanks for your insight and experience. Rich, NU6T |
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+ QRZ provides two separate services: "callbook lookup", and "QRZ confirmations" which are valid for "QRZ awards". + "Callbook lookup" is useful because it provides your QSO partner's name - which can be helpful during interactive QSOs - and location - which can confirm that your directional antenna is pointing to the correct azimuth. With a free QRZ subscription, you can configure DXKeeper to use "QRZ via Pathfinder" at no charge; yo In 'll be limited to 4 QRZ lookups per minute, which is only relevant if you import an ADIF or tab-delimited file with DXKeeper configured to perform callbook lookups of each imported QSO. Interactive usage is somewhat slowed by the fact that Pathfinder must download and display QRZ's advertising - which is why this form of access is free. the HamQTH callbook is also free, but has significantly less coverage than QRZ. QRZ's "XML Data" callbook access eliminates the rate-limiting and advertising delays, but requires an annual paid subscription. BuckMaster HamCall is an alternative paid callbook service. + I have been pursuing ARRL DXing awards since I first began DXing back in 1990. I thus have no personal interest in obtaining QRZ confirmations. An increasing number of DXers do pursue QRZ awards, which is why I extended DXKeeper so support uploading QSOs to QRZ. Even if you're not pursuing QRZ awards, it is polite to upload your logged QSOs to QRZ for those ops who do pursue QRZ awards; unlike Club Log, eQSL, and LoTW, however, you must purchase an annual QRZ Logbook" subscription? in order to do so. If you're competing in the annual DX Marathon, a QRZ confirmation indicates that a logged QSO is likely "low risk", and can be included in your end-of-year submission without concern that you'll lose points by having submitted a busted QSO; DXLab's Realtime Award Tracking for DX Marathon can be configured to take QRZ confirmations into account when determining whether a QSO with an active station would increase your DX Marathon score. ? ? ?73, ? ? ? ? ? ?Dave, AA6YQ |
Is QRZ relevant today and is there an advantage to buying a Premium subscription to avoid ads? I'm considering getting a subscriptionUnless one is pursuing QRZ.com's proprietary awards that have no general recognition or is using QRZ Log, I have found no value in any QRZ.com subscription. DXLab Suite can harvest QSL address data from the web pages for free - the only limitation is on the number of daily lookups (~100) and some speed limiting (4 per minute) neither of which is significant unless one is trying to lookup data for contest QSOs in real time or trying to lookup data for a large contest log. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2025-03-13 7:28 PM, Richard Hill via groups.io wrote: I'm getting back into the hobby and am interested in DXing. I currently |
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On 3/13/2025 4:28 PM, Richard Hill via groups.io wrote:
Is QRZ relevant today and is there an advantage to buying a Premiumsubscription to avoid ads? Hi Rich, I've used DXKeeper since 2003, Spot Collector fairly regularly, and use QRZ often to look up hams and their QTH, but almost never send cards. Back when there was RTTY activity on DXpeditions, I used WinWarbler. I upload to LOTW, eQSL, and ClubLog regularly. I'm considering getting a subscription and API to use in DXKeeper/DXLab.That's the only reason for a subscription -- I like to support ham software when it's requested, but they only accept subscriptions, so I haven't sent them anything. 73, Jim K9YC |
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One thing that the ARRL got right is that anyone can submit confirmations to LoTW at no charge, whether they are an ARRL member or not. Charging for the ability to submit confirmations for QRZ awards limits the number of ops will submit confirmations via QRZ. One can satisfy "A QSL is the final courtesy of a QSO" by uploading confirmations to Club Log, eQSL, and LoTW - all at no charge. ? ? ? 73, ? ? ? ? ? ?Dave, AA6YQ |
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On 2025-03-13 8:29 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
It appears that one can export an ADIF file of QSOs and manually import that file to QRZ log. One can not use the API interface supported by DXKeeper unless one is a QRZ.com subscriber and one can not download confirmations - even an ADIF file - unless one is a subscriber. I have not attempted to determine if one can set up a logbook for a previous callsign (particularly if the call has been reassigned) as it would be pointless. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2025-03-13 8:29 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote: One thing that the ARRL got right is that anyone can submit confirmations to LoTW at no charge, whether they are an ARRL member or not. |
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One can submit? QSOs to QRZ for free via multiple methods, I have used them all:
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- manual entry at QRZ.com - import ADIF files - import from LoTW.? LoTW confirmations are imported and count toward QRZ awards. One can create a logbook for a previous callsign.? I did so for my prior call.? That one has not been reassigned, I'm not sure how it would work if it were reassigned. QRZ awards are all free. My normal practice is to upload my logs from DXKeeper to LoTW? then import to QRZ from LoTW. I do have a QRZ subscription because I find value in the site and want to support it.? However I have not configured DXKeeper to upload and sync with QRZ because...well, laziness :-)? I'll get around to it someday. 73, -Ron KR2D On 3/13/2025 8:50 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
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On 2025-03-13 9:03 PM, Ron DeBlock wrote:
- import from LoTW. LoTW confirmations are imported and count towardThat does appear to be a better way to simplify getting QSOs into QRZ log for non-subscribers. One can create a logbook for a previous callsign. I did so for myI tried it and at least for callsigns that have been reassigned one needs to "prove" ownership for the time period in question. That will be a real problem for my original Extra Class call from 1978- 1995 ... I doubt that I have copies of that license and it was prior to the records in the current FCC ULS (although they could verify a claim if the bothered to *gasp* look in a printed Callbook from that era). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2025-03-13 9:03 PM, Ron DeBlock wrote: One can submit? QSOs to QRZ for free via multiple methods, I have used them all: |
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Dave, following your instructions got my DXK running properly again.? ?But when I logged some new QSOs and attempted upload to LoTW a similar problem came up:
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In DXK QSL tab...
<Add Requested> <Enable All>
LoTW operations panel...
<Upload to LoTW>
all the QSO's enabled are immediately disabled and this error message plays for each:
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Disabled QSL Queue entry for 6Y7EI on 2025-03-14 at 21:02:17 - station location "Williston, Florida" specified in QSO's QTHID item "williston" doesn't match station location "Williston" selected on the QSL Configuration window's LotW tab
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Seems like somewhere there is a QTHID "williston," with station location "Williston, Florida" that is accessed when trying to upload to LoTW.
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Can you help once again?? I really appreciate your patience...
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Bruce - W4NDX |
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+ AA6YQ comments below
Disabled QSL Queue entry for 6Y7EI on 2025-03-14 at 21:02:17 - station location "Williston, Florida" specified in QSO's QTHID item "williston" doesn't match station location "Williston" selected on the QSL Configuration window's LotW tab Seems like somewhere there is a QTHID "williston," with station location "Williston, Florida" that is accessed when trying to upload to LoTW. + Assuming that you changed the name of your LoTW "Station Location" to Williston, as I suggested, then on the Main window's "my QTHs" tab, the LoTW selector in the Entry whose ID is Williston should specify Williston - not "Williston, Florida". 73, Dave, AA6YQ |
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One use case, of mine, might be of interest to you regarding QRZ.com "xml data subscription".
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First, I use DXKeeper for my logbook.? Which enables me to set specific fields of interest for display after I log a contact.
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DXKeeper also enables me to automatically query the qrz.com data base (with the xml data subscription) when you enter a new contact.
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DXKeeper ALSO allows you to customize key information you would like displayed AFTER a query to qrz.com xml database.
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for example, after a query, my log book, for the relevant call sign, will show
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callsign? ? Date/Time? ? Band? ? Mode? ?Operator Name? ?QTH? ?Grid Square? ?DISTANCE
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DISTANCE, on the right, is always of interest for me on any given day.? ?
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All of the above information emits from a xml data query made by DXKeeper and all for some tiny payment.?
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I obtain a 5 year subscription which worked out to be not much a year (I don't recall but even for my very tight budget it is not a big deal).
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I hope this helps.? I personally think xml data subscription is required for any ham operator if you are even slightly interested in who your most recent contact was AND enabling a log with some detailed information so you can look back later.??
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Like I say, I am always excited to make contact 5000 miles away.? ?Still seems magical and my shows the magic via the xml query from DXKeeper to qrz.com.??
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Thank you for reading.??
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Mike KM2B |
开云体育Anyone that can afford a reasonable HF station these days can afford QRZ. It ?is far more up to date and has far more information than the old days of the callbook. That book and or CDs if adjusted for inflation was far more expensive and far less useful. ? Outlook LT Gil W0MN Hierro Candente Batir de Repente 44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike KM2B via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2025 7:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DXLab] QRZ subscription value? ? "All of the above information emits from a xml data query made by DXKeeper and all for some tiny payment. " ? OK, my apology:? The xml query delivers the Operator Name, QTH, Grid Square and DISTANCE. ? Not ALL of the data.? ?gotta do better at proofreading my old bain's glitches. -- Mike KM2B -- W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W Hierro candente, batir de repente HP Laptop |
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