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Cheap Disk Drives
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aburkefl
Yesterday, Rich and I exchanged notes about the cost and size of disk drives over the years. Yesterday, in pursuit of an addition to my HD DVR, I was able to purchase an external WD hard drive - 1 TB, that's 1 terrabyte or 1,000 gigs! - for $140 including the case.
The interfaces available are USB 2.0 and SATA. My HD DVR has a port for the SATA interface. Just plugged it in and the "system" formatted it and used it right away. Just can't believe how big - and inexpensive - drives have become. Art - N4PJ |
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Art,
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It is indeed amazing how cheap mass storage has become!! But (this question is a tiny bit off-topic), what I really want to know is: What kind of DVR did you try this on?? I'd LOVE to be able to add a TB to my DVR (Verizon FiOS, a Motorola QIP 7216). Do you (or anyone else) know if a SATA drive will plug-n-play in this DVR with the Verizon software?? Cheers & 73, Chuck WA3CEJ ----- Original Message -----
From: aburkefl To: dxlab@... Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:23 AM Subject: [dxlab] Cheap Disk Drives Yesterday, Rich and I exchanged notes about the cost and size of disk drives over the years. Yesterday, in pursuit of an addition to my HD DVR, I was able to purchase an external WD hard drive - 1 TB, that's 1 terrabyte or 1,000 gigs! - for $140 including the case. The interfaces available are USB 2.0 and SATA. My HD DVR has a port for the SATA interface. Just plugged it in and the "system" formatted it and used it right away. Just can't believe how big - and inexpensive - drives have become. Art - N4PJ |
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Gil rojomn Charter
LUCKY LUCKY YOU AND I AM JEALOUS, there is a USB port on the DVR I have
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from Charter but it does not work. I checked and it is not connected , so I am stuck with the rotten small 160gig drive it has which gives only 20 hours of HD recording, yechhhhh. Gil Rochester ,MN W0MN ICC and twitter WzeroMN 44.082036N 92.513219W 1050' -----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...] On Behalf Of Chuck Goelz Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:00 AM To: dxlab@... Subject: Re: [dxlab] Cheap Disk Drives Art, It is indeed amazing how cheap mass storage has become!! But (this question is a tiny bit off-topic), what I really want to know is: What kind of DVR did you try this on?? I'd LOVE to be able to add a TB to my DVR (Verizon FiOS, a Motorola QIP 7216). Do you (or anyone else) know if a SATA drive will plug-n-play in this DVR with the Verizon software?? Cheers & 73, Chuck WA3CEJ ----- Original Message ----- From: aburkefl To: dxlab@... Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:23 AM Subject: [dxlab] Cheap Disk Drives Yesterday, Rich and I exchanged notes about the cost and size of disk drives over the years. Yesterday, in pursuit of an addition to my HD DVR, I was able to purchase an external WD hard drive - 1 TB, that's 1 terrabyte or 1,000 gigs! - for $140 including the case. The interfaces available are USB 2.0 and SATA. My HD DVR has a port for the SATA interface. Just plugged it in and the "system" formatted it and used it right away. Just can't believe how big - and inexpensive - drives have become. Art - N4PJ ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links |
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FireBrick
What is a DVR?
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How do you use it with DXLabs? And why would you want to watch 20 hours of ANYTHING, when you could be using Ham Radio????? Life is about...Priorities.... LOL On 12/3/2009 9:23:48 AM, Gil rojomn Charter (rojomn@...) wrote:
LUCKY LUCKY YOU AND I AM JEALOUS, there is a USB port on the DVR I have |
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I'm sure Art will answer but I'll guess that it is a DircTV HD DVR. I've got one too and although I haven't attempted to add an external drive it has the capability of adding a USB or SATA external hard drive. That also has the neat capability of connecting it to a router wired or wireless with an add on accessory so that you can access it over your computer network and view saved TV movies or programs on your PC via a free downloadable App called DIRECTVTOPC. It's unbelievable how things are becoming so integrated these days! Pretty soon, TV's and PC's will be pretty much the same thing!
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Bye the way I've seen 1 TB external drives advertised for prices like $79.99 although I don't think those had the SATA capability. 73, Rich - W3ZJ Chuck Goelz wrote: Art, |
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On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 09:23, Gil rojomn Charter <rojomn@...> wrote:
LUCKY LUCKY YOU AND I AM JEALOUS, there is a USB port ?on the DVR I have Dish Network is similar though you CAN make the USB port work and add your own storage ... for a $39.95 activation fee. I'm nervous with disks getting so cheap. I'd want anything I cared about to be in a mirrored configuration at least. Of course, it's so cheap now that the I in RAID is back to being "inexpensive" ... -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! |
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Jeff Blaine AC0C
Cheap drives are great. Here I run 4x500gb in a RAID 1+0 for my ham rig. It's very fast and redundant - when (not if) a drive fails, I just replace it and the system rebuilds the array in the background - saves a tremendous amount of headaches in the long run. My DXLAB applications really fly on that drive.
73/jeff/ac0c From: Rich - W3ZJ Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:45 AM To: dxlab@... Subject: Re: [dxlab] Cheap Disk Drives I'm sure Art will answer but I'll guess that it is a DircTV HD DVR. I've got one too and although I haven't attempted to add an external drive it has the capability of adding a USB or SATA external hard drive. That also has the neat capability of connecting it to a router wired or wireless with an add on accessory so that you can access it over your computer network and view saved TV movies or programs on your PC via a free downloadable App called DIRECTVTOPC. It's unbelievable how things are becoming so integrated these days! Pretty soon, TV's and PC's will be pretty much the same thing! Bye the way I've seen 1 TB external drives advertised for prices like $79.99 although I don't think those had the SATA capability. 73, Rich - W3ZJ Chuck Goelz wrote: Art, [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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FireBrick wrote:
What is a DVR?Digital Video Recorder. Record programs to a hard drive and watch them later at your leisure. Also great for fast forwarding past advertisements. If you don't have one you must be wrathing TV the old fashioned way on their schedule instead of yours :-) How do you use it with DXLabs?Well not with DXLab but in addition to it. You start watching a movie but leave SpotCollector running in the background. When an interesting spot comes in, you pause the movie, work the DX then go back to your movie :-) And why would you want to watch 20 hours of ANYTHING, when you could beNope, you can have your cake and eat it too :-) 73, Rich - W3ZJ
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On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:15, Rich - W3ZJ <rich@...> wrote:
advertisements. If you don't have one you must be wrathing TV the old That's what I do. Joe DX tells me when I need to go down the hall to N5UWY to work something. :-) Yes, priorities. One of my priorities is to limit my TeeVee watching to stuff I like, when *I* want to watch it. I sort of knew that in pre-DVR days, but tape management was always a hassle with the VCR. Now my problem is that I tend to let content accumulate on the DVR without watching it. It's changed my viewing habits so much that if a new show catches my interest, I have to ask if I am ready to commit to watching the new content given what else I watch. More often than not, I say "nah". Just said "yes" to Dr Who, though that is delivered by DVD/USPS; I don't have the right setup to stream it directly from Netflix (their postal distribution system works great though). "Net net", as they say, is that we watch a lot less TeeVee. Not what the conduit and content providers had in mind, I'm sure. :-) But back to DXLabs. Storage is sort of a big-picture kind of topic, but it *is* part of running DXLabs, I assure you. Understanding what is available and potentially, what to avoid, is important. Peter -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! |
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DANNY DOUGLAS
I just purchased a replacement 19 inch lcd tv which is sitting right here next to my two computer screens. In fact, it also has a computer input. The satellite box is connected to it, as well as a "security"s camera, that is pointed out in the back yard, where I can see two of my beams rotating as well as the weather to the north and east west (lightning monitor). Our tv boxes have DVRs built in, with 40 hours copy available. The tv is set up for closed caption on, all the time, so its no problem to DX with DXLab and watch tv at the same time.
Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB All 2 years or more (except Novice). Short stints at: DA/PA/SU/HZ/7X/DU CR9/7Y/KH7/5A/GW/GM/F |
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Bill Bailey, KG4NZR
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From: "aburkefl" <aburkefl@...> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:23 AM To: <dxlab@...> Subject: [dxlab] Cheap Disk Drives Yesterday, Rich and I exchanged notes about the cost and size of disk drives over the years. Yesterday, in pursuit of an addition to my HD DVR, I was able to purchase an external WD hard drive - 1 TB, that's 1 terrabyte or 1,000 gigs! - for $140 including the case.Seagate 1TB is $109 at BestBuys. Couldn't pass it when I upgraded. Bill Bailey, KG4NZR/9 Indianapolis |
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Spot Spy nicely complements this "multi-tasking" approach as well. Just
carry your cell phone around the house with you and receive SC alerts and special callsign notifications on your mobile phone. 73, Cliff K3LL From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...] On Behalf Of Peter Laws Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:32 AM To: dxlab@... Subject: Re: [dxlab] Cheap Disk Drives On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:15, Rich - W3ZJ <rich@... <mailto:rich%40w3zj.com> > wrote: advertisements. If you don't have one you must be wrathing TV the oldThat's what I do. Joe DX tells me when I need to go down the hall to N5UWY to work something. :-) Yes, priorities. One of my priorities is to limit my TeeVee watching to stuff I like, when *I* want to watch it. I sort of knew that in pre-DVR days, but tape management was always a hassle with the VCR. Now my problem is that I tend to let content accumulate on the DVR without watching it. It's changed my viewing habits so much that if a new show catches my interest, I have to ask if I am ready to commit to watching the new content given what else I watch. More often than not, I say "nah". Just said "yes" to Dr Who, though that is delivered by DVD/USPS; I don't have the right setup to stream it directly from Netflix (their postal distribution system works great though). "Net net", as they say, is that we watch a lot less TeeVee. Not what the conduit and content providers had in mind, I'm sure. :-) But back to DXLabs. Storage is sort of a big-picture kind of topic, but it *is* part of running DXLabs, I assure you. Understanding what is available and potentially, what to avoid, is important. Peter -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! |
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On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:29, Cliff Frescura <cf@...> wrote:
Spot Spy nicely complements this "multi-tasking" approach as well. ?JustA fine thing (assuming I had a plan that includes SMS) but if I need to be texted because I'm so far from the radio room .... then I'm so far from the radio room!! :-) -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! |
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If you have 3 teenagers with cell phones, then you NEED to have a texting
plan! I've also cut trips to the grocery store short based on Spot Spy alerts since it only takes a few minutes to get back home. 73, Cliff K3LL From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...] On Behalf Of Peter Laws Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:32 PM To: dxlab@... Subject: Re: [dxlab] Cheap Disk Drives On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:29, Cliff Frescura <cf@... <mailto:cf%40cfcorp.com> > wrote: Spot Spy nicely complements this "multi-tasking" approach as well. JustA fine thing (assuming I had a plan that includes SMS) but if I need to be texted because I'm so far from the radio room .... then I'm so far from the radio room!! :-) -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! |
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Please tell me how to set this up in the US, last time I tried it led me to a German site.
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Thanks, Earl KD5XB -- Earl Needham Quoting from the Coast Guard: ZUT Posted via Blackberry -----Original Message-----
From: "Cliff Frescura" <cf@...> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 10:29:47 To: <dxlab@...> Subject: RE: [dxlab] Cheap Disk Drives Spot Spy nicely complements this "multi-tasking" approach as well. Just carry your cell phone around the house with you and receive SC alerts and special callsign notifications on your mobile phone. 73, Cliff K3LL From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...] On Behalf Of Peter Laws Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:32 AM To: dxlab@... Subject: Re: [dxlab] Cheap Disk Drives On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:15, Rich - W3ZJ <rich@... <mailto:rich%40w3zj.com> > wrote: advertisements. If you don't have one you must be wrathing TV the oldThat's what I do. Joe DX tells me when I need to go down the hall to N5UWY to work something. :-) Yes, priorities. One of my priorities is to limit my TeeVee watching to stuff I like, when *I* want to watch it. I sort of knew that in pre-DVR days, but tape management was always a hassle with the VCR. Now my problem is that I tend to let content accumulate on the DVR without watching it. It's changed my viewing habits so much that if a new show catches my interest, I have to ask if I am ready to commit to watching the new content given what else I watch. More often than not, I say "nah". Just said "yes" to Dr Who, though that is delivered by DVD/USPS; I don't have the right setup to stream it directly from Netflix (their postal distribution system works great though). "Net net", as they say, is that we watch a lot less TeeVee. Not what the conduit and content providers had in mind, I'm sure. :-) But back to DXLabs. Storage is sort of a big-picture kind of topic, but it *is* part of running DXLabs, I assure you. Understanding what is available and potentially, what to avoid, is important. Peter -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! |
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Help? Anybody? How do I get SpotSpy to send me an SMS when a station I "need" shows up in Spot Collector?
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Thanks, Earl --- In dxlab@..., "Earl Needham" <earl.kd5xb@...> wrote:
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Spot Spy is a DXL add on written by DL9HO, hence the German site.
If you have Spot Spy installed and running. 1. Click on the Config button 2. Click on the tab labeled Alarms 3. Check the box Send E-mail (Note in the US/Canada, you probably will never use the SMS config as is requires an SMS provider gateway) 4. In the email config, enter your "email address" of your cell phone to send SMS messages a. See in order to determine your email address of your cell phone in order to send SMS messages to it. b. For instance if your provider is Verizon, use 1234567890@... (replace the numbers with your 10 digit cell number) 5. Enter the email server info like you did for your PC email client (outlook, etc) 6. You can set the alert triggers under the Alarms tab as well, in addition to using the Needed Callsigns tab to enter specific calls, modes and bands. There are a bunch of other features, but that should get you started. 73, Cliff K3LL From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...] On Behalf Of earl_needham Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:28 PM To: dxlab@... Subject: [dxlab] Re: Cheap Disk Drives Help? Anybody? How do I get SpotSpy to send me an SMS when a station I "need" shows up in Spot Collector? Thanks, Earl --- In dxlab@... <mailto:dxlab%40yahoogroups.com> , "Earl Needham" <earl.kd5xb@...> wrote: to a German site. [mailto:dxlab@... <mailto:dxlab%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Peter Laws |
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aburkefl
Your DVR must be able to accept something like this. When I first bought the DVR almost three years ago, the manual made reference to the USB port, the SATA port and the Ethernet port as - "for future use." The future has arrived!
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My HD DVR is a DirecTV (originally purchased at Circuit City) HR20. I found out on the DirecTV website (tips and tricks) about adding the external drive. If you're only looking for a drive for backup/storage, I found a number of even cheaper drives, butr I specifically needed one with the SATA capability. It's also possible I could have disassembled the DVR and replaced the existing hard drive. I was reluctant to do that. Art - N4PJ --- In dxlab@..., "Chuck Goelz" <c.goelz@...> wrote:
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aburkefl
I found quite a few 1 TB drives for $100 or less, but many (most!) of 'em couldn't do SATA. I also didn't have to pay any shipping!
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In addition to the amount of disk storage, I couldn't believe the small size of this one. I have a 500 GB MyBook and this little guy is half that size! I can feel that it's running, but I can't hear it. For the guys wanting to know how I can do DXLabs and TV at the same time - we took the low tech approach - we have a baby monitor system with the TX in the shack and the RX wherever we want it to be. When Joe DX hollers we come a-running! I keep threatening to make recordings to create our own Josephine DX so we have different voices - one for the wife and one for me. At the moment, our workaround is to have her version announce the callsign while mine doesn't. As soon as we hear a callsign, we know "...it's for you dear!" Art - N4PJ --- In dxlab@..., "Bill Bailey, KG4NZR" <kg4nzr@...> wrote:
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Gil rojomn Charter
Well, mine does not. It has the connector but it is not active. I cannot
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replace the drive as it is rente3d form Charter. Gil Rochester ,MN W0MN ICC and twitter WzeroMN 44.082036N 92.513219W 1050' -----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...] On Behalf Of aburkefl Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:45 AM To: dxlab@... Subject: [dxlab] Re: Cheap Disk Drives Your DVR must be able to accept something like this. When I first bought the DVR almost three years ago, the manual made reference to the USB port, the SATA port and the Ethernet port as - "for future use." The future has arrived! My HD DVR is a DirecTV (originally purchased at Circuit City) HR20. I found out on the DirecTV website (tips and tricks) about adding the external drive. If you're only looking for a drive for backup/storage, I found a number of even cheaper drives, butr I specifically needed one with the SATA capability. It's also possible I could have disassembled the DVR and replaced the existing hard drive. I was reluctant to do that. Art - N4PJ --- In dxlab@..., "Chuck Goelz" <c.goelz@...> wrote: question is a tiny bit off-topic), what I really want to know is: What kind of DVR did you try this on?? I'd LOVE to be able to add a TB to my DVR (Verizon FiOS, a Motorola QIP 7216). Do you (or anyone else) know if a SATA drive will plug-n-play in this DVR with the Verizon software?? drives over the years. Yesterday, in pursuit of an addition to my HD DVR, I was able to purchase an external WD hard drive - 1 TB, that's 1 terrabyte or 1,000 gigs! - for $140 including the case. the SATA interface. Just plugged it in and the "system" formatted it and used it right away.
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