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Economical way to control a Yaesu G-450ADC with DXView?

 

After 10 years I finally replaced a CDE AR-22R with a Yaesu G-450ADC turning my little Mosley tri-bander. Of course now I'm wondering what the best/most economical way would be to control it via DXView. Not sure it matters, but I'm using a TS-890S that is connected to the computer/internet via USB, Ethernet and serial port. Any recommendations for someone on a limited budget?
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Jim McPhee
Placitas, NM
W5ABA
 

Hi Jim,

PstRotatorAz rotator software will interface with DX Lab and a supported rotor controller.? It supports a wide range of rotor and interfaces, including ERC controllers, which are very reasonably priced.? I use a Green Heron RT-21, which are somewhat expensive, but very high quality.?

See the list of supported controllers and protocols with links to the suppliers. PstRototorAZ is excellent and very well supported.


Good luck and 73,
Larry KB1VFU
 

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I have a G-450 rotor that I put an ERC interface in. See:
DXLabs will talk to that interface directly, as will N1MM+, WriteLog, and many other software packages.
I don't know what you mean by economical, but this is about the cheapest you can get, using the kit version, without designing and building an interface your self.
?
The one I have has worked fine for years, was simple to build and put in the Yaesu Controller box, and interface to software.

Gordon - N1MGO

On 7/29/2022 18:46 PM, Jim McPhee wrote:

After 10 years I finally replaced a CDE AR-22R with a Yaesu G-450ADC turning my little Mosley tri-bander. Of course now I'm wondering what the best/most economical way would be to control it via DXView. Not sure it matters, but I'm using a TS-890S that is connected to the computer/internet via USB, Ethernet and serial port. Any recommendations for someone on a limited budget?
--
Jim McPhee
Placitas, NM
W5ABA


 

Since the G450 lacks provision for computer control, the ERC board
is probably the only reasonable aftermarket add on. I know some
of the replacement controllers will work but they are not inexpensive.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2022-07-30 9:37 AM, Gordon LaPoint wrote:
I have a G-450 rotor that I put an ERC interface in. See:
DXLabs will talk to that interface directly, as will N1MM+, WriteLog, and many other software packages.
I don't know what you mean by economical, but this is about the cheapest you can get, using the kit version, without designing and building an interface your self.
The one I have has worked fine for years, was simple to build and put in the Yaesu Controller box, and interface to software.
Gordon - N1MGO
On 7/29/2022 18:46 PM, Jim McPhee wrote:
After 10 years I finally replaced a CDE AR-22R with a Yaesu G-450ADC turning my little Mosley tri-bander. Of course now I'm wondering what the best/most economical way would be to control it via DXView. Not sure it matters, but I'm using a TS-890S that is connected to the computer/internet via USB, Ethernet and serial port. Any recommendations for someone on a limited budget?
--
Jim McPhee
Placitas, NM
W5ABA
 

Larry,

Thank you for taking the time to respond. I appreciate your input.
--
Jim McPhee
Placitas, NM
W5ABA
 

Hi Gordon,

I had read about the ERC from Vibroplex? and thought it might fit my needs and budget. It's good to hear from someone who is using it successfully.
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Jim McPhee
Placitas, NM
W5ABA
 

Thanks Joe. Looks like the ERC board is the way to go for me. There are some very sophisticated controllers on the market, but they're out of my reach.? And right now I'm enjoying a simple controller that is quiet and that accurate tracks the orientation of the antenna!
--
Jim McPhee
Placitas, NM
W5ABA
 

I have also used that board - no problem to install and it works just fine.??

73 de Chuck, WS1L



On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 11:57 AM Jim McPhee <jmcphee@...> wrote:
Hi Gordon,

I had read about the ERC from Vibroplex? and thought it might fit my needs and budget. It's good to hear from someone who is using it successfully.
--
Jim McPhee
Placitas, NM
W5ABA

 

If you enjoy tinkering, the cheapest way I've found to add computer control to a rotor controller is the open source K3NG Rotor controller software on an Arduino board.?


I recently added computer control to a 1969-vintage HAM-M controller, using an Arduino Mega 2650 Embed and a relay board (less than?$30 in parts).??

However, it's not exactly a plug and play affair - it does take some investigation if nobody else has documented exactly what configuration options and wiring are required for whatever type of controller you have.? That investigation, plus a stubborn desire to fit everything inside the original case, cost me a lot more time than originally anticipated. If I were accounting for my time, I likely could have bought a new Green Heron controller instead...

I don't know whether anyone has adapted it to your particular model of rotor/controller, but there's an active group on (/g/radioartisan) where you could ask.?

Just another idea...if the ERC works with your controller, that's probably the best bet.
73 de W0ZF

On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 11:03 AM Jim McPhee <jmcphee@...> wrote:
Thanks Joe. Looks like the ERC board is the way to go for me. There are some very sophisticated controllers on the market, but they're out of my reach.? And right now I'm enjoying a simple controller that is quiet and that accurate tracks the orientation of the antenna!
--
Jim McPhee
Placitas, NM
W5ABA

 

The K3NG board should work more easily on a (current) Yaesu rotator
than on a CDE/Hy-Gain rotator since the Yaesu does not have a brake
and the direction pot is isolated. However, to the best of my knowledge, there are no "cookbook" instructions for the Yaesu controller unlike
the ERC.

If one is willing to experiment (and possibly customize the K3NG
code), the K3NG design would be a nice way to go. However, for a
"drop in" solution, the ERC is probably the the least expensive
and proven.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2022-07-30 1:13 PM, Dave Fugleberg wrote:
If you enjoy tinkering, the cheapest way I've found to add computer control
to a rotor controller is the open source K3NG Rotor controller software on
an Arduino board.

I recently added computer control to a 1969-vintage HAM-M controller, using
an Arduino Mega 2650 Embed and a relay board (less than $30 in parts).
However, it's not exactly a plug and play affair - it does take some
investigation if nobody else has documented exactly what configuration
options and wiring are required for whatever type of controller you have.
That investigation, plus a stubborn desire to fit everything inside the
original case, cost me a lot more time than originally anticipated. If I
were accounting for my time, I likely could have bought a new Green Heron
controller instead...
I don't know whether anyone has adapted it to your particular model of
rotor/controller, but there's an active group on groups.io (
/g/radioartisan) where you could ask.
Just another idea...if the ERC works with your controller, that's probably
the best bet.
73 de W0ZF
On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 11:03 AM Jim McPhee <jmcphee@...> wrote:

Thanks Joe. Looks like the ERC board is the way to go for me. There are
some very sophisticated controllers on the market, but they're out of my
reach. And right now I'm enjoying a simple controller that is quiet and
that accurate tracks the orientation of the antenna!
--
Jim McPhee
Placitas, NM
W5ABA
 

Does anyone know if the G450A rotator will work with a G1000DXA or G800DXA control boxes?
We have had good success connecting the Arduino based NV1Q controller to the DIN port on the G1000DXA and into DX Lab.
I have a friend who has the 450, we could buy a new control box. (?) tnx Peter
 

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I just installed an easy rotor control module in mine and I have been very pleased.


Bruce - K5WBM

On Jun 21, 2024, at 11:33?PM, VE6KK via groups.io <hamve6kk@...> wrote:

?Does anyone know if the G450A rotator will work with a G1000DXA or G800DXA control boxes?
We have had good success connecting the Arduino based NV1Q controller to the DIN port on the G1000DXA and into DX Lab.
I have a friend who has the 450, we could buy a new control box. (?) tnx Peter

 

On 6/21/2024 10:39 PM, VE6KK wrote:
Does anyone know if the G450A rotator will work with a G1000DXA or
G800DXA control boxes?
Probably not. The original G450A used an *AC* motor the G800DXA
and G1000DXA are DC motors. There was a late G450ADC (with no
change in markings) with a DC motor but most G450s that you will
find are AC motors.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 6/21/2024 10:39 PM, VE6KK wrote:
Does anyone know if the G450A rotator will work with a G1000DXA or G800DXA control boxes?
We have had good success connecting the Arduino based NV1Q controller to the DIN port on the G1000DXA and into DX Lab.
I have a friend who has the 450, we could buy a new control box. (?) tnx Peter

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