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Re: SpotCollector keeps going into yellow status
Any idea what may be causing my SpotCollector to continue to go into yellow status?Most likely because SpotCollector can not keep up with the number/rate of incoming spots. I say that because you indicate the "yellow" status is more common on weekends (when the spot rate is generally highest). Look at the suggestions here: <> to optimize SC performance and consider reducing the incoming spot rate by disabling skimmer spots on one or more of your spot sources and in severe cases filtering spots on the cluster (e.g. disable spots for US stations if you are not chasing VUCC or WAS). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2025-04-13 1:06 PM, Tim Pierce via groups.io wrote: Over the past few weeks I've had issues with SpotCollector turning to yellow status for my sources. Sometimes it's all 4 sources that I'm using, other times it may be 2, or just a single source. I have been closing SpotCollector and reopening which has, temporarily, allowed me to reconnect to my sources. |
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SpotCollector keeps going into yellow status
Over the past few weeks I've had issues with SpotCollector turning to yellow status for my sources. Sometimes it's all 4 sources that I'm using, other times it may be 2, or just a single source. I have been closing SpotCollector and reopening which has, temporarily, allowed me to reconnect to my sources.
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The yellow status seems to take place more on the weekends than during the week.
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Any idea what may be causing my SpotCollector to continue to go into yellow status?
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Tim
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Re: Graphics cards and Monitors for the shack/ DXLab
开云体育Celos, tengo celos. I am so jealous here. I went and bought a full size desktop from Best buy and it cost about twice as much. It has only 16 gig of ram too. It works fine but I think you have way outdone me. I should have done more research before buying this. Oh well! ? Outlook LT Gil W0MN Hierro Candente Batir de Repente 44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of KK1L Ron via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2025 3:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DXLab] Graphics cards and Monitors for the shack/ DXLab ? I see the thread has morphed a little, but the core is graphics cards (pun intended). On a related note I just this week upgraded my computer from an HP Z620 workstation (it is still housing my RAID backup) with an AceMagic M1 -? Ryzen 7 6800H mini PC. The embedded graphics is Radeon 680M and the G2D rating referenced in this thread earlier is 800. I have not fully vetted the machine for speed, but all 7 DXLabs apps open up full in only 1 minute and 3! My HP took something like 5 minutes...maybe. I have today moved all the shack stuff to this rig and am getting things squared away. I had my doubts about these NUC sized rigs. ? At just under $400...6 USB 3.0 ports, 1 USB-C 3.2G2, HDMI, DP, 2.5G Ethernet, WiFi 6, BT5.2, 32G DDR5, 1TB SSD.? The computer is dwarfed by all the cabling I have running to it! Running a Dell 2718Q 4K 27" monitor as the main screen. The others are smaller 1080P monitors. No RF noise. The big 4K is a joy to have in front of me.? ? ? -- 73 es God Bless de Ron KK1L <>< -- W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W Hierro candente, batir de repente HP Laptop |
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Re: Graphics cards and Monitors for the shack/ DXLab
Ph right on, Dave!? I originally needed a large DB because I was chasing -- HARD! -- that last Zone 22.? After completing WAZ, I'm now working 6 meters a little, where I probably won't ever have a DB larger than maybe 500 entries, although sometimes more might help, I really don't know. I ordered one of the mini PCs last week, and then cancelled the order after reading a few bad reviews on that particular one.? Thursday I ordered a more classic tower machine that I think I'll be more comfortable with. Intel I7 Hexa-core 8th GEN | 512GB NVMe SSD | 32GB RAM | Windows 11 Pro?-- it isn't brand new, but it'll beat the stuffing out of my current machine -- an I7-2600 with 16 GB RAM.? I might not need to worry about cores when it arrives.Vy 7 3 Earl / KD5XB DM84 currently on 50.313 e e
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On Saturday, April 12th, 2025 at 12:20 PM, Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:
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Re: Graphics cards and Monitors for the shack/ DXLab
I see the thread has morphed a little, but the core is graphics cards (pun intended). On a related note I just this week upgraded my computer from an HP Z620 workstation (it is still housing my RAID backup) with an AceMagic M1 -? Ryzen 7 6800H mini PC. The embedded graphics is Radeon 680M and the G2D rating referenced in this thread earlier is 800. I have not fully vetted the machine for speed, but all 7 DXLabs apps open up full in only 1 minute and 3! My HP took something like 5 minutes...maybe. I have today moved all the shack stuff to this rig and am getting things squared away. I had my doubts about these NUC sized rigs.
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At just under $400...6 USB 3.0 ports, 1 USB-C 3.2G2, HDMI, DP, 2.5G Ethernet, WiFi 6, BT5.2, 32G DDR5, 1TB SSD.? The computer is dwarfed by all the cabling I have running to it!
Running a Dell 2718Q 4K 27" monitor as the main screen. The others are smaller 1080P monitors. No RF noise. The big 4K is a joy to have in front of me.?
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Re: Graphics cards and Monitors for the shack/ DXLab
+ AA6YQ comments below
+ Setting an application's affinity is indeed transient; it is reset when the application is restarted, and when Windows is rebooted. There are several Windows automation tools that can be used make this automatic: Automation Workshop, Process Hacker, and Anvir Task Manager. I have no experience with any of them. My advice is to first determine whether assigning DXLab applications to cores yields a significant performance improvement in your usage scenario before taking this step. + If your use of SpotCollector is solely to identify active stations with whom a QSO would advance your progress towards the awards or personal objectives that you are pursuing, then you don't need a deep Spot Database;? 60 minutes worth of Spot Database Entries is sufficient to eliminate the clutter caused by multiple spots of the same station. + A deeper Spot Database is only required to learn and? visualize the activity patterns of specific stations you are hunting and to identify and visualize actual propagation openings to those stations - the goal being to find and work them before they are spotted and the cluster hordes descend on the frequency. ? ? ? ? 73, ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Dave, AA6YQ |
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Re: Windows 11 24 H2
+ AA6YQ comments below
Do you know if 24 H2 ever got straightened out?? I remember a few months ago that it was one update you DID NOT want to install.? I’m asking because a friend of mine has the home edition of Windows 11 and he is wondering if it is safe to install.+ Perplexity's report, with citations of its sources, is appended below. ? ? ?73, ? ? ? ? ? ? Dave, AA6YQ Windows 11 24H2 offers performance improvements and new features but has faced reliability concerns due to persistent bugs, though many issues have been addressed through patches. Here's a breakdown: Key Considerations
Stability Status
Recommendation Proceed with the update if your device isn’t on a safeguard hold, as security risks increase with delayed updates. For mission-critical systems, wait 1–2 weeks after installation to monitor for device-specific issues. Always back up data before updating.
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Re: Graphics cards and Monitors for the shack/ DXLab
+ AA6YQ comments below
I shared your?explanation with ND0B (whom I was on zoom with) and he used one of your computers while attending? NDSU in the 1970's . (North Dakota?State University).? The corp you worked for donated some computers to NDSU, and he noticed your byline at the end of your message....small world!+ A few years after we designed the Nova 2 minicomputer, my long-time accomplice Mike Druke and I were walking with our wives along the boardwalk of a beach town on Cape Code. We came across a fellow with a video camera who was taking pictures of customers and in real time printing the resulting image on a tee shirt. When we looked at the equipment he was using, we found a Nova 2 doing the digitizing! + Learning that Disney had selected the Nova 2 to control its then-new "Space Mountain" ride was a bit more nerve-wracking... ? ? ? ?73, ? ? ? ? ? ? Dave, AA6YQ |
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Re: Graphics cards and Monitors for the shack/ DXLab
+ AA6YQ comments below
+ The user decides? - how many cores to purchase - how many cores to assign to each application
+ The Windows Task Manager displays each core's utilization, so a determined user without a deep understanding of the concepts can achieve an optimal assignment of applications to cores through trial and error. ? ? ? 73, ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Dave, AA6YQ |
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Re: Graphics cards and Monitors for the shack/ DXLab
Thanks for the info, Dave. I understand to go into Windows Task Manager, Details tab, and Set Affinity to accomplish this.? I am finding, that when Spot Collector is terminated and restarted, I have to do it all over again.? I don't see a method to "Save" the affinity that I have set. I also notice that, when I set it, the box shows this as a RESTRICTION on which processors are allowed to run a particular program, and the default is to allow ALL processors to run all programs. It's going to take a while to build up my spots database enough to see the effects, I'll look at it then.? My spots database currently has less than 200 entries.? I just cleared it trying to get better performance.? Oh well...? :-) 7 3 Earl / KD5XB DM84 on six meters e e
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On Saturday, April 12th, 2025 at 12:52 AM, Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:
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Re: Windows 11 24 H2
开云体育OK thanks. ? 73, Bob KB4CL ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of KA9JAC via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2025 10:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DXLab] Windows 11 24 H2 ? Here you can find a bug report from a couple weeks ago. On 4/12/2025 8:38 AM, Bob Main via groups.io wrote:
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Re: Windows 11 24 H2
开云体育Here you can find a bug report from a couple weeks ago.personally I have been using it without any issues. 73 Bob On 4/12/2025 8:38 AM, Bob Main via
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Windows 11 24 H2
开云体育Do you know if 24 H2 ever got straightened out?? I remember a few months ago that it was one update you DID NOT want to install.? I’m asking because a friend of mine has the home edition of Windows 11 and he is wondering if it is safe to install. ? 73, Bob KB4CL |
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Re: Graphics cards and Monitors for the shack/ DXLab
Dave, I shared your?explanation with ND0B (whom I was on zoom with) and he used one of your computers while attending? NDSU in the 1970's . (North Dakota?State University).? The corp you worked for donated some computers to NDSU, and he noticed your byline at the end of your message....small world! 73, N0AN Hasan On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 1:52?AM Dave AA6YQ via <aa6yq=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Graphics cards and Monitors for the shack/ DXLab
开云体育Nice explanation but does the user have any part in this or is it all I the coding ?and the hardware in use? If the user has any part in this then how does the user accomplish it? It sounds like a user would? need to go get his Computer Science degree to even begin to touch this process.? ? ? Outlook LT Gil W0MN Hierro Candente Batir de Repente 44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave AA6YQ via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2025 1:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DXLab] Graphics cards and Monitors for the shack/ DXLab ? + AA6YQ comments below
+ The terms threads and cores refer to different aspects of a CPU's functionality. Threads
A CPU can be optimized to rapidly switch among multiple threads, for example by maintaining a separate register set for reach thread to avoid the need to save the current thread’s registers to memory and load the new thread’s registers from memory when switching between threads. At the extreme, a single CPU can appear to run multiple threads simultaneously – though it is actually switching among them. Threads improve computational efficiency by allowing better utilization of a CPU’s resources; for example, a CPU can be executing threads A and B while thread C is waiting for data to be read from an SSD. However, two threads running on the same CPU do not yield a doubling of performance. Cores A core is a single CPU capable of executing one thread at a time, possibly with the ability to rapidly switch among multiple threads. Multiple cores exploit the parallelism both among and within the applications you are running. For example, each of SpotCollector’s threads can profitably run on separate cores, though there will be some contention over access to the Spot Database.? There is less contention among separate applications – like DXKeeper and PropView – especially when they don’t read or write the same files. -- W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W Hierro candente, batir de repente HP Laptop |
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Re: Graphics cards and Monitors for the shack/ DXLab
+ AA6YQ comments below
Oh my, I just realized the difference in cores and threads.? I was thinking threads, as in giving giving three THREADS to Spot Collector.? Is it instead three cores / six threads? + The terms threads and cores refer to different aspects of a CPU's functionality. Threads
A CPU can be optimized to rapidly switch among multiple threads, for example by maintaining a separate register set for reach thread to avoid the need to save the current thread’s registers to memory and load the new thread’s registers from memory when switching between threads. At the extreme, a single CPU can appear to run multiple threads simultaneously – though it is actually switching among them. Threads improve computational efficiency by allowing better utilization of a CPU’s resources; for example, a CPU can be executing threads A and B while thread C is waiting for data to be read from an SSD. However, two threads running on the same CPU do not yield a doubling of performance. Cores A core is a single CPU capable of executing one thread at a time, possibly with the ability to rapidly switch among multiple threads. Decisions If you're contemplating the purchase of a new PC, then you can choose the number of cores you want based on an optimum assignment of applications to cores. If you're trying to optimize the the performance of a PC you already possess, then the process is to assign its cores to applications in the most performance-profitable manner. With respect to CPU and primary memory (RAM), SpotCollector is the most consumptive DXLab application. Start by assigning it 2 or 3 cores. If you have configured SpotCollector to generate a propagation forecast for each active station, assigning a core to PropView and the VOACAP engine would likely be performance-profitable as well. ? ? ? ?73, ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Dave, AA6YQ (co-designer of 4 minicomputers and 1 microprocessor for Data General Corp back in the 1970s).? |