Re: Cannot get Commander to Connect to SDR
Mark,
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Using SmartSDR CAT to obtain band data is secure via SmartLink? for remote ops, while port forwarding is by default insecure as the open port is not protected. However, you can configure your router's firewall to allow access to a specific port or range of ports only for the specific IP address or subnet assigned to your remote router.?
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Alternatively, when I've used port forwarding for remote ops, I've usually logged into my home router to enable the external port and then disabled it when done operating.?
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Good luck and 73,
Larry KB1VFU
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Re: Cannot get Commander to Connect to SDR
Larry, after reading this I think I failed to mention to you that we actually have a VPN in place between home and remote site…so the router does not need any port forwarding. ?
We now have commander working one direction if you can believe that…what that means is that when I change the frequency on the flex, commander changes the frequency and tracks it. ?If I go to spot collector, and click on a spot, the commander window changes to that stations frequency and mode…HOWEVER, what we don’t have is the propogation of that information back to the radio. ?Go figure…so information from commander, or spotter does not flow back to the radio…
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On Feb 14, 2025, at 12:25?PM, Larry Benoit via groups.io <lbenoit@...> wrote:
Mark,
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You said: "I have configured the General Tab within Commander Configuration with the IP Address of my home computer, and listed the IP Port as 4992." ?
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If you operate remote this won’t work because there is no valid routing information for DX Commander to connect to the radio.? If you want to establish a direct connection to the 6500 without using SmartSDR CAT you need to enable port forwarding on your home router per this article as Dave noted:
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Also, you need a fixed public IP address for your home router and a fixed IP address for your 6500. With this method you can specify WSJTX Radio to DX Lab Suite Commander or configure to connect to a SmartSDR CAT serial port per my previous post.?
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Here is yet another method for remote ops:
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1) Create a new TCP port for SmartSDR CAT (for example port 60000)
2) Configure WSJTX Radio to Flex6xxx
3) Configure WSJTX Network Server to: 127.0.0.1:60000
4) Configure DX Commander Radio to FLEXCAT (essentially the same as KENWOOD) and set Primary CAT Serial Port to a valid SmartSDR CAT port number.
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Alternatively, I've tried setting DX Commander to a Flex 6600 and the IP address to the localhost IP address: 127.0.0.1 and the IP Port number to a valid SmartSDR CAT TCP port number, but that doesn't work. But,? it doesn't need to work, because other methods work flawlessly.?
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73,
Larry KB1VFU
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Re: QSO Path in DX Atlas?
+ AA6YQ comments below
2.41 is not a new version, it was released a year ago.
+ It's new for Paul W2ECK, as he reported in /g/DXLab/message/227832? ? ?73, ? ? ? ? ? ?Dave, AA6YQ
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Re: QSO Path in DX Atlas?
2.41 is not a new version, it was released a year ago.
Alex
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On 2025-02-14 18:53, Dave AA6YQ wrote: + AA6YQ comments below
When using DXView World Map the WSJTX FT8 qso path is plotted correctly. If i enable DX Atlas map instead of the World Map, the qso path is not plotted. Is it possible to have the qso path shown in DX Atlas?
+ I just confirmed that DX Atlas version 2.3 correctly plots the QSO path.
+ Earlier, you reported here that you've just upgraded to DX Atlas version 2.41; perhaps there's been a regression in this new version.
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
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Re: QSO Path in DX Atlas?
+ AA6YQ comments below
When using DXView World Map the WSJTX FT8 qso path is plotted correctly. If i enable DX Atlas map instead of the World Map, the qso path is not plotted. Is it possible to have the qso path shown in DX Atlas?
+ I just confirmed that DX Atlas version 2.3 correctly plots the QSO path.
+ Earlier, you reported here that you've just upgraded to DX Atlas version 2.41; perhaps there's been a regression in this new version.
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
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+ AA6YQ comments below
When I use the 'Sync All" button on the QSL tab the resulting date and time of the LOTW QSL and QSO sync does not update to the same. The resulting report says that both were updated together. If I do them individually the dates and times will match. Is this normal or an issue?
+ The dates shown beneath the "Sync LoTW QSOs" and "Sync LoTW QSLs" buttons are unrelated: + The date shown beneath the "Sync LoTW QSOs" button is the date on which LoTW last accepted one of your QSOs, as reported the last time you invoked "Sync LoTW QSOs". + The date shown beneath the "Sync LoTW QSLs" button is the date on which LoTW last confirmed one of your QSOs, as reported the last time you invoked "Sync LoTW QSLs". ? ? ?73, ? ? ? ? ? ? Dave, AA6YQ
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When I use the 'Sync All" button on the QSL tab the resulting date and time of the LOTW QSL and QSO sync does not update to the same. The resulting report says that both were updated together. If I do them individually the dates and times will match. Is this normal or an issue?
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+ AA6YQ comments below
Yes I get the same behavior - I hadn't tried this before. If I double click on the tiny window the normal size window pops up with the status bar as before. It must be a Windows 11 thing.
+ Windows 10 and Windows 11 will attempt to fully expand a window if you move it too close to a border of your screen. Perhaps the behavior you report is related to that. I don't know whether it can be de-activated.
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
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Re: Reasonable call prefilter
There have been discussions in this group about the 13 character
limitation. The supported maximum callsign length can vary in
Amateur Radio software.? However, there are known callsigns (with
and without modifiers) that are longer than 13 characters; if you
have Microsoft Access, they can easily be seen in the LoTW and eQSL
Access databases supplied in DXLabs.? The maximum size of the
Callsign field in the appropriate table (Callsigns table in LoTW,
AGCallsigns table in eQSL) is 16 characters.?
These are present in the LoTW Access database table:
EA9/EA7KMZ/QRP, JK3HFN/SO2005/3, JK3HFN/SO2005/4, VI2020STAYHOME
All 4 entries have uploaded QSO's into LoTW.? VI2020STAYHOME is a
searchable callsign on QRZ.com.
By the way, states
TQSL supports a maximum callsign length of 20 characters.?
The eQSL Access database table has more entries >= 14 characters,
several /QRP style calls, along with dual calls (call/special event
call), and several entries that would not be considered valid.?
Callsigns in the eQSL Access database look to be truncated to a
maximum 15 characters (this does not appear to be the case in the
LoTW Access database).? Take for example "EA8/OE7WGT/p/QR".? This
should be EA8/OE7WGT/p/QRP.? On the eQSL.cc web page, I can only
type up to EA8/OE7WGT/p/Q (14 characters) in the search field.? If
you enter the URL ,
and click on "See if cards waiting", you'll see several cards
waiting to be retrieved.? Therefore, eQSL supports uploading QSO's
with callsigns up to 16 characters.
The takeaway is that hams have uploaded QSO's to LoTW and eQSL with
callsigns longer than 13 characters.? It remains to be seen if there
is enough demand to increase the callsign length support in
DXKeeper.
73,
Bill
WB2RIS
On 2/11/2025 2:36 AM, Bj?rn SM7IUN
wrote:
13 seems to be a de facto standard.?
The callsign field in the Cabrillo standard is 13
characters wide.
Contest loggers like Win-Test and DXLog have the same.
Bj?rn SM7IUN
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AA6YQ comments below
The ITU has fairly clear regulations on valid amateur
callsigns
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essentially limiting callsigns to Letter-number (e.g. W1, G5,
F2, etc.), Letter-letter-number (e.g., WA1, KH6, PY3, VE2,
etc.), Letter-number-number (e.g. A61, C53, E77, etc.) or
Number-letter-number (e.g., 2E1, 3B8, 4L1, 4X4, 5A1, etc.)
followed by up to four characters the last of which must be a
letter *except* in the case of half series assignments
(3DA-3DM Eswatani, 3DN-3DZ Fiji, SSA-SSM Egypt, and SSN-SSZ
Sudan) where the prefix should be *three* characters followed
by a number then a maximum of *three* characters the last of
which must be a letter.
*However* Article 19, section 3 includes language that permits
the use of callsigns with more than four characters in the
suffix "On special occasions, for temporary use".
DXKeeper permits logging callsigns of up to 13 characters (to
handle up to 7 character callsigns with a "portable" prefix or
suffix).? I could not find a reference to maximum callsign
size for SpotCollector.
For those who chase Special Event operations, what is a
reasonable
(practical) limit for the length of special event (special
occasion, temporary use) callsigns that one might encounter on
the air or see via the cluster network?? Is the 13 character
limit in DXKeeper workable (assuming there is no need for a
"portable" modifier to an already jumbo sized callsign
<G>)?
+ There have been no complaints posted here about DXKeeper's
13-character limit on callsigns.
+ SpotCollector also imposes a 13-character limit on
callsigns.
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Re: Cannot get Commander to Connect to SDR
Thanks Larry for taking the time to explain this to me…we will take a look at doing it this way.
Mark
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On Feb 14, 2025, at 12:25?PM, Larry Benoit via groups.io <lbenoit@...> wrote:
Mark,
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You said: "I have configured the General Tab within Commander Configuration with the IP Address of my home computer, and listed the IP Port as 4992." ?
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If you operate remote this won’t work because there is no valid routing information for DX Commander to connect to the radio.? If you want to establish a direct connection to the 6500 without using SmartSDR CAT you need to enable port forwarding on your home router per this article as Dave noted:
?
Also, you need a fixed public IP address for your home router and a fixed IP address for your 6500. With this method you can specify WSJTX Radio to DX Lab Suite Commander or configure to connect to a SmartSDR CAT serial port per my previous post.?
?
Here is yet another method for remote ops:
?
1) Create a new TCP port for SmartSDR CAT (for example port 60000)
2) Configure WSJTX Radio to Flex6xxx
3) Configure WSJTX Network Server to: 127.0.0.1:60000
4) Configure DX Commander Radio to FLEXCAT (essentially the same as KENWOOD) and set Primary CAT Serial Port to a valid SmartSDR CAT port number.
?
Alternatively, I've tried setting DX Commander to a Flex 6600 and the IP address to the localhost IP address: 127.0.0.1 and the IP Port number to a valid SmartSDR CAT TCP port number, but that doesn't work. But,? it doesn't need to work, because other methods work flawlessly.?
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73,
Larry KB1VFU
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Re: Cannot get Commander to Connect to SDR
Mark,
?
You said: "I have configured the General Tab within Commander Configuration with the IP Address of my home computer, and listed the IP Port as 4992." ?
?
If you operate remote this won’t work because there is no valid routing information for DX Commander to connect to the radio.? If you want to establish a direct connection to the 6500 without using SmartSDR CAT you need to enable port forwarding on your home router per this article as Dave noted:
?
Also, you need a fixed public IP address for your home router and a fixed IP address for your 6500. With this method you can specify WSJTX Radio to DX Lab Suite Commander or configure to connect to a SmartSDR CAT serial port per my previous post.?
?
Here is yet another method for remote ops:
?
1) Create a new TCP port for SmartSDR CAT (for example port 60000)
2) Configure WSJTX Radio to Flex6xxx
3) Configure WSJTX Network Server to: 127.0.0.1:60000
4) Configure DX Commander Radio to FLEXCAT (essentially the same as KENWOOD) and set Primary CAT Serial Port to a valid SmartSDR CAT port number.
?
Alternatively, I've tried setting DX Commander to a Flex 6600 and the IP address to the localhost IP address: 127.0.0.1 and the IP Port number to a valid SmartSDR CAT TCP port number, but that doesn't work. But,? it doesn't need to work, because other methods work flawlessly.?
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73,
Larry KB1VFU
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I use a program called syncback from
They even have a free version which will do just fine for what most
need.
mine is set to back up my log every hour, so unless i am making a
lot of q's
chances are i won't ever loose much.
73
Bob
On 2/14/2025 9:36 AM, Don Carlgren via
groups.io wrote:
Good idea Bruce,
I turned that on as well.? As a former systems analyst I'm
kind of kicking myself.? One of my primary jobs was to write
code to backup headend unix servers and verify them for
integrity.? I hang my head in shame! :)? At least I didn't?
lose anything this time!
73, Don
VA7ZT
On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at
5:37?AM Bruce - K5WBM via <bruce.mclain= [email protected]>
wrote:
DXKeeper can
automatically backup your log on shutdown.? That won’t
protect from a spontaneous PC reboot but at least you would
have a backup from the last DXKeeper shutdown which might
minimize the lost data.
I shutdown DXKeeper every evening and it backs up my
log to my NAS.
Yep, I know.? I'm a systems analyst.? I just
need to smarten up and do backups more often.?
The plan is to replace the computer when we get
moved into our new house but for now it's the
best I can do.? I'll start doing a backup
everyday just in case.?
73, Don
VA7ZT
+ AA6YQ comments below
I keep the log file on a Raid 5
NAS drive because I know the little computer
at my rig is an old piece of garbage.? It's
done spontaneous reboots once in a while
since I got it several years ago.
+ A RAID drive won't protect against disk
corruption caused your PC's spontaneous
reboots; RAID protects against data loss due
to disk failure, not incorrect write
operations from the PC - as you've now
experienced.
? ? 73,
? ? ? ? ?Dave, AA6YQ
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When using DXView World Map the WSJTX FT8 qso path is plotted correctly;y. If i enable DX Atlas map instead of the World Map, the qso path is not plotted. Is it possible to have the qso path shown in DX Atlas?
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73 Paul w2eck
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Don,
Just don’t forget to periodically go back and delete some of the older backups.
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Good idea Bruce,
I turned that on as well.? As a former systems analyst I'm kind of kicking myself.? One of my primary jobs was to write code to backup headend unix servers and verify them for integrity.? I hang my head in shame! :)? At least I didn't? lose anything this time!
73, Don VA7ZT On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 5:37?AM Bruce - K5WBM via <bruce.mclain= [email protected]> wrote: DXKeeper can automatically backup your log on shutdown.? That won’t protect from a spontaneous PC reboot but at least you would have a backup from the last DXKeeper shutdown which might minimize the lost data.
I shutdown DXKeeper every evening and it backs up my log to my NAS.
Yep, I know.? I'm a systems analyst.? I just need to smarten up and do backups more often.? The plan is to replace the computer when we get moved into our new house but for now it's the best I can do.? I'll start doing a backup everyday just in case.?
73, Don VA7ZT + AA6YQ comments below
I keep the log file on a Raid 5 NAS drive because I know the little computer at my rig is an old piece of garbage.? It's done spontaneous reboots once in a while since I got it several years ago.
+ A RAID drive won't protect against disk corruption caused your PC's spontaneous reboots; RAID protects against data loss due to disk failure, not incorrect write operations from the PC - as you've now experienced. ? ? 73, ? ? ? ? ?Dave, AA6YQ
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Re: Can't Enable DX Atlas ?
The problem has been fixed by installing an updated version of DX Atlas. V2.41
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73 Paul w2eck
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Good idea Bruce,
I turned that on as well.? As a former systems analyst I'm kind of kicking myself.? One of my primary jobs was to write code to backup headend unix servers and verify them for integrity.? I hang my head in shame! :)? At least I didn't? lose anything this time!
73, Don VA7ZT
On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 5:37?AM Bruce - K5WBM via <bruce.mclain= [email protected]> wrote: DXKeeper can automatically backup your log on shutdown.? That won’t protect from a spontaneous PC reboot but at least you would have a backup from the last DXKeeper shutdown which might minimize the lost data.
I shutdown DXKeeper every evening and it backs up my log to my NAS.
Yep, I know.? I'm a systems analyst.? I just need to smarten up and do backups more often.? The plan is to replace the computer when we get moved into our new house but for now it's the best I can do.? I'll start doing a backup everyday just in case.?
73, Don VA7ZT + AA6YQ comments below
I keep the log file on a Raid 5 NAS drive because I know the little computer at my rig is an old piece of garbage.? It's done spontaneous reboots once in a while since I got it several years ago.
+ A RAID drive won't protect against disk corruption caused your PC's spontaneous reboots; RAID protects against data loss due to disk failure, not incorrect write operations from the PC - as you've now experienced. ? ? 73, ? ? ? ? ?Dave, AA6YQ
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Re: Cannot get Commander to Connect to SDR
Larry, thanks for your tip…if we cannot get it to work as we had before, this will b a fall back position. ?BTW, SmartLink should have nothing to and should not prevent us from connecting Commander to the Flex 6500. ?
Said differently, Smartlink has nothing to do with any logging or radio control programs.
Smartlink is a network communication tool that connects SmartSDR software to a Flex radio when the radio is in a different location from the SmartSDR software.
Mark
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On Feb 14, 2025, at 8:41?AM, Larry Benoit via groups.io <lbenoit@...> wrote:
Dave,
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This is an alternative method that uses Flex SmartSDR CAT and is therefore more secure.?
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73,
Larry KB1VFU
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Re: Cannot get Commander to Connect to SDR
Dave,
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This is an alternative method that uses Flex SmartSDR CAT and is therefore more secure.?
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73,
Larry KB1VFU
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DXKeeper can automatically backup your log on shutdown. ?That won’t protect from a spontaneous PC reboot but at least you would have a backup from the last DXKeeper shutdown which might minimize the lost data.
I shutdown DXKeeper every evening and it backs up my log to my NAS.
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Yep, I know.? I'm a systems analyst.? I just need to smarten up and do backups more often.? The plan is to replace the computer when we get moved into our new house but for now it's the best I can do.? I'll start doing a backup everyday just in case.?
73, Don VA7ZT + AA6YQ comments below
I keep the log file on a Raid 5 NAS drive because I know the little computer at my rig is an old piece of garbage.? It's done spontaneous reboots once in a while since I got it several years ago.
+ A RAID drive won't protect against disk corruption caused your PC's spontaneous reboots; RAID protects against data loss due to disk failure, not incorrect write operations from the PC - as you've now experienced. ? ? 73, ? ? ? ? ?Dave, AA6YQ
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Re: Spot Collector Need Filter Troubles
Problem solved.? Pilot error (as usual).? Sri for take up the bandwidth.
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Dale
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Alex, VE3NEA
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