Hi all,
Who is Thessalonius? I've searched encyclopedias, and I can't find
the name. Is it in the DU, and I've just forgotten?
Thanks,

Thomas, son of Acimgirl


--- In Disappearance_of_the_Universe@..., "garyrrenard"
<garyrrenard@y...> wrote:

Linda wrote:

Gary, have you figured out which form Thessalonius has taken in

this

lifetime?

Linda

Hi Linda. Not yet! But I have some ideas, and I'm sure the answer
will present itself when it's supposed to. I'll let you know. Love
and peace, Gary.

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I mentioned in another post, and just looked up to get the exact name
and details.

This is a report of his "passing" and something about him and his
life.


Our beloved minister/teacher and spiritual guide, Eric Butterworth,
made a peaceful transition into the Flow of Eternal Life on Thursday,
April 17, 2003, at Greenwich Hospital in Greenwich, Connecticut. Eric
was considered a legend and spiritual icon in the Unity movement.
Charles Fillmore, grandson of the founder of Unity, has described him
as "Unity's leading spokesman." We will never know the countless
number of lives that have been changed by applying the Spiritual
Principles taught by Eric Butterworth.
The author of 16 best-selling books on metaphysical spirituality, a
gifted theologian, philosopher, and lecturer, Eric was a highly
respected New Age pioneer and innovator of New Thought, whose life
was dedicated to helping people to help themselves. His teaching was
focused on the Divinity of all people and his desire was that
everyone would know their Oneness with God. He began his daily radio
broadcasts, which at times went around the world, with the words: "
You can change your life by altering your thoughts." A gentle voice
with a powerful message, he inspired hundreds of thousands of people
for over fifty years. His vital radio messages, most needed in our
time, will continue.

A scholar and educator, Eric established three powerful Unity
ministries. The first was in Pittsburgh. He then moved to Detroit,
where his teaching resulted in the building of the Detroit Unity
Temple, the largest Unity church at that time, where more that 2,000
people attended his Sunday Services each week. While in Detroit, he
authored his first book, Unity: A Quest for Truth. In 1961, Eric
began his ministry in New York City. He lectured every Sunday at
Carnegie Hall, then Town Hall, and since 1976, Avery Fisher Hall,
where the weekly attendance grew to several thousand.

In 1968, Eric wrote his first bestseller, Discover the Power Within
You, which is considered a classic in the New Thought Spiritual
Movement. His other popular books include Spiritual Economics, The
Universe

Is Calling, and Life Is for Loving. His latest book, The Creative
Life: 7 Keys to Your Inner Genius, has received widespread
recommendation and praise. Eric's books have been translated into
several languages, and he has often been referred to as a "Twentieth
Century Emerson." A visionary and an innovator, he originated the
Spiritual Therapy Workshops, which he conducted for over 35 years.

His devotees include people from all walks and stations of life, all
of whom state that his teachings helped to change their lives. In the
premier issue of "O" Magazine, Oprah Winfrey identified Discover the
Power Within You as one of the books that changed her perspective on
life and religion. It is on her list of "classics" that she will
recommend in her new book club. Oprah states: "Eric Butterworth
teaches that God isn't 'up there.' He exists inside each one of us,
and it's up to us to seek the Divine within." Her favorite quote by
Eric is: "The greatest mistake is believing that we are 'only human.'
We are human by expression but Divine in creation and limitless in
potentiality." Dr. Maya Angelou, beloved by millions, has stated of
Eric: "He has been, is now, and shall forever be my teacher." The
unique spiritual bond that existed between Eric and Maya is evident
to all who know them. Noted composer, Marvin Hamlish, another
admirer, said: "All who heard him were truly inspired. He led them
home to themselves. Eric was a true prophet."

Born in Winnipeg, Canada in 1916, Eric attended Fresno State
University and Capital University in Ohio, where he studied music. He
began training for the ministry at Unity Village in Missouri during
WWII. He left to join the army and, as a lieutenant in the Medical
Corps, trained medical personnel and also served as chaplain and
counselor. After the war, he returned to his ministerial studies and
graduated from Unity Ministerial School.

Eric Butterworth was scheduled to deliver his much-anticipated Easter
message at Avery Fisher Hall. The lecture he had written was
delivered instead by Olga Butterworth, whose meditations have
complimented Eric's Sunday messages since their marriage in 1972.

In addition to Olga, Eric is survived by his sons, Tom of New Canaan,
Connecticut; Alan of St. Louis; and Charles of Baltimore; and eight
grandchildren.

Gifts, specifically designated: "To the Memory of Eric Butterworth,"
may be sent to The Unity Center, Box 1501, Greenwich, CT 06836.

Eric was 86 years old but was always fond of saying: "My age is none
of my business." and "I am as old as God and as young as the
morning." We say to him in love and gratitude: "Good morning, Eric!
We bless you in this new beginning on your eternal journey in the
Light of Love."


The Unity Center of Practical Christianity
213 West 58th Street
New York, NY 10019

unitycenter@...
Phone (212) 582-1300
Fax (212) 582-2158

Was Jon Mundy's magazine always called that?

Wasn't it called "On Course" or something?

I remember a MIRACLES magazine put out by Paul Ferrini. It was
expensive and "glossy" and maybe that's why it evenutally folder.

It was too expensive and pretty.

I have a few back issues of it, one from 1993.

I once started to copy an artile from it, I found especially
helpful and have the author's permission (Kevin Bidner) to repostit.

If I ever get it done.



~ Carrie




--- In Disappearance_of_the_Universe@..., "garyrrenard"
<garyrrenard@y...> wrote:

The following is from a column in Jon Mundy's "Miracles
Magazine" called "On The Light Side." This Magazine is available

free

for the asking. It must, however, be renewed each year. Send

requests

to jon@m... (If that whole address didn't come out,
the first part of it is jon@miracles and the second part of it is
magazine.org)

A man goes to see the Rabbi. "Rabbi, something terrible is
happening and I have to talk to you about it." The Rabbi
asked, "What's wrong?" The man replied, "My wife is poisoning me."
The Rabbi, very surprised by this asks, "How can that be?"
The man then pleads, "I'm telling you, I"m certain she's
poisoning me. What should I do?"
The Rabbi then offers, "Tell you what. Let me talk to her.

I'll

see what I can find out and I'll let you know."
A week later the Rabbi calls the man and says, "Well, I spoke

to

your wife. I spoke to her on the phone for three hours. You want my
advice?"
The man said yes and the Rabbi replied, "Take the poison."

A good book about this (I once read from the library) and Jesus
awakening to his Power is "Discovering the Power Within" by Eric
Butterworth. Or "Discover"?

He was a Unity Minister and writer (who passed away this year).

I keep thinking I'm going to look up that book online, on a used
book store and buy it, and then forget.

It tells about the times of Jesus and goes over bible passages and
writes about them in a real, understandable way.

It was a long time ago, and I don't remember any more of the details.

~ Carrie




--- In Disappearance_of_the_Universe@..., LindaL
<lklanglois@y...> wrote:

I think J was 32 or 33 when crucified. At 12 he was talking with

the wise men in the Temple, and they were marvelling at him.

jane4r1 <melbywells@e...> wrote:Hello everybody,
I just had to respond to this thread about age and ACIM. Who made
the original comments? I am curious and would like to know. My

first

thoughts on reading this were, How old was J when he tried teaching
others about the Truth? How old does one have to be to learn
forgiveness lessons, anyway? Or to learn the Truth? "The truth will
seldom be well received by anyone" (D.U., Arten, page 36). Maybe

the

older we are the easier it is to *practice* forgiveness.

Elizabeth
"You are in fact, the Love of God, and your real life is with Him."
(D.U., page 42)




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I would feel the same way you do, but have you thought about maybe
doing what she so strongly wants you to do?

Because she wants it so badly?

There's a place in ACIM where it says if a brother asks you to do a
foolish thing (you feel is foolish) and strongly insists on it, to do
it. Because it means so much to him.

And doesn't really matter all that much, in Truth.

This is later "corrected" (if Jesus really corrected it, and Helen
didn't- realizing the implications of what she had previously
written) and changed to "as long as it doesn't hurt him or anyone
else".

Seems like any other corrections were made where the orginal words
were, and this changed.

I think if we are aligned with Spirit, and in "Right Mind" nobody
would be attracted to us who would strongly insist we do something to
hurt someone else (like murder them).

And if they did, it might be more a projection of what is in our
own mind and not so much someone else strongly insisting on it.


I can just imagine the court case that would result from this!
Using ACIM to show that I did it because my brother strongly insisted
I do. (LOL)

But, if it would make your mother happy and feel better, and not be
all that big a deal, maybe you could just get the kids babpised?

My daughter was faced with this with her first child, her inlaws
wanted him babtised. They finally went ahead and did it, peace
resulted and the baby is now a 15 year old teenager (over 6'tall) and
it doesn't seem to have harmed him any.

Not trying to tell you what to do, but just writing it for the
sake of possible discussion.

~ Carrie





--- In Disappearance_of_the_Universe@..., "jane4r1"
<melbywells@e...> wrote:

Please bear with me as I tell this story. My mother is 70 years

old.

She is angry with me for not going to Church and for not baptizing

my

2 sons. She believes that "young people today" ("young" for me is

41)

have not had any "real troubles" and are "arrogant in not believing
in God" and "not asking God to help" them. She really thinks that

my

2 sons will go to hell because they have not been baptized. She
doesn't understand that I (along with many other ACIM students)
believe that our relationship with God is individual and personal

and

doesn't require us to attend church or follow the rules of the
established church. I could say that she is too "old" to understand
ACIM, but that would be judging her harshly. She has her path and I
have mine. I love her and forgive her every day.

I guess I am saying that I don't think age has anything to do with
one's spirituality.

Love,
Elizabeth

--- In Disappearance_of_the_Universe@..., BBFBBN@a...
wrote:

Hello melbywells@e...,

In reference to your comment:

è Maybe the older we are the easier it is to *practice*
è forgiveness.

I just think that the older we are the more practice we had at

trying to make

this a better world, we try so hard to carve out our

little "niche"

and still

feel empty and realize that it is not working and then we ask for

help.

I was introduced to the Course in 1988. I was in my mid 30's

having gone

through another failed relationship ... due to my attraction to

men

who were

addicts.

And it answered a lot of questions for me .. it made sense .. but

I

still had

to go through stuff ... I still had to try to make this world a

better place

for me ... I wanted equality for Black people, try to find that

good black

man ... I had causes ... but no matter what I did nothing seemed

to work. When

my son got sick I knew I needed help and I found Joe Jessup and

Course Talk.

Even then I knew I had another classroom to go through and when

my

son passed

away ... I just shut down ... however, it was my core belief in

the

Course ..

that this world is not real, that escape through suicide or

whatever was not

the answer. There is no place to escape in a dream ... all I

could do was

wake up .. and I was and still am too fearful to do that.

I am now 48 now and after reading Gary's Book and recently

attending the

workshops conducted by Ken ... it is almost like I am seeing the

Course with new

eyes.

This world DOES NOT WORK.

I understand that now.

Now I am ready to intensify my study and attention in sticking

with

the Right

Teacher and stop thinking that I have the answers.

And I believe that for most folks, that comes with age and time.

Peace

Hi Gary,
Today as i was mowing the lawn and thinking about your book,it came
to mind how utterly astonishing it must have been to your
friends,family and especially Karen when you finally got around to
explaining the appearence of Arten and Pursah in your life.I wondered
how one could approach such a subject and the reactions you got.
My lawnmower is very slow so I have lots of time to get lost in my
thoughts as you can probably tell.
I read the disappearance so quickly,I almost gobbled it down,that now
I cannot recall all its finer details ,hence the lack of great
metaphysical questions now but after I read it again I'll be back
with a more spiritual focus!!!!
At the start of this year as I was making my list of "to do's" the
course was not even a distant thought on my mind,now having been
thrown for a loop since reading Disappearance I'm still feeling
bemused about how quickly i've crossed a threshold of sorts and how
it has all become very important to me.
thanks,
Simon

Ossie wrote: (In referring to how she tells people about the Course.)

I go for the guts, you are not a body, God did not create the world,

there is no one out there ... this is all in your mind .. and the
mind is not in your brain ... this is an insane world because the ego
has tricked you into believing all this crazy stuff was made by God
and it that it is real; there is no opposite to Love .. etc., I could
go on and on and my favorite sayings when I meet men ...
relationships are about "kill or be killed" which part are you
interested in?

and the looks I get LOL

So I recommend your book first now. :-)

Hi Ossie. You are too funny. I'd give anything to be a fly on the
wall on one of your dates! (LOL) Love and peace, Gary.

Carrie wrote:

There are and were many rumors about why her boards finally closed...

Hi Carrie, Thanks for all of the information about Marianne
Williamson and also about her message boards. That gives me an
opportunity to clarify my impression of how Marianne is briefly
discussed in my book.
She's mentioned a couple of times and it was just kind of matter
of fact, just short discussions. I think there are a few people
(probably not many) who took that, plus what was said about her
(Pursah referred to her as "the Holy rap artist") as being
disrespectful. Not only was that *not* my impression at the time, but
I'd like to say for the record that I have nothing but enormous
respect for Marianne and the work she does.
I mention in the book while talking to my ascended friends that
I love Marianne (something that has been overlooked so far) and I'd
like her to know that I identified very much with her life story
in "A Return To Love" on a personal level. It's as though we've lived
parallel lives in the way we were both born about the same time,
shared the same generational experiences, and both felt like the
world was some kind of a big private club and we didn't know the
secret handshake. Fortunately, we also share the same Answer. No
disrespect for her was meant in the book. That wasn't Arten's or
Pursah's or my attitude, and it shouldn't be interpreted that way.
God Bless you Marianne. Love and peace, Gary.

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Don't you think on boards and lists where it doesn't seem like
people want to make peace it's good practice for those who DO seem to
want peace to find it in themselves, anyway?

I also have come to believe that maybe online is one of the few,
maybe THE only "safe" place where a person can let of steam and vent.

Bounce off people, get feedback, learn what works and what doesn't,
and maybe be "themself" as far as not always trying to be nice,
peaceful, happy, agreeable, etc.

When it doesn't seem like others are the way we think maybe they
should be, this is when *I* have a chance to be how *I* want to be,
and change my mind/perception of them.

Doesn't the course say what isn't love is fear and a call for love,
requiring the same repsonse?

Sometimes this doesn't mean kind words and hugs and friendship, but
just accepting the person the way they are and feel at the time,
whatever they may be.

How someone else is choosing to be doesn't have to effect how I am.

At least it's a goal.

The boards are great practice.

And, of course, Marianne's life got busy and she got more "well
known" and spent more time doing t.v. shows than working in her
office answering the phone and filling orders for tapes like she once
did.

She hadn't been on her boards for maybe 1 1/2 years when I got there.

She didn't close the boards because she didn't have time to write on
them herself. Or she would have done so long before.

And she obviously didn't take the time to really check into it or
she would have learned that people there were like a family. Even
though they all didn't always get along.

At least one person later said they would come on the boards and
then report to Marianne what they found there. But, coming onto a
board as a spy, and telling people off, calling them abusive and
threatening to get the boards closed if they didn't change isn't
really a fair assessment of the dynamics of the place.

Marianne did put a generic, vague statement on her website weeks
later saying she had made the decision to close the boards and was
sorry if anyone was disappointed about this.

I'm sure we all lived.... and it must have been perfect, because
it happened.

The closest to it now is the TRCM newsgroup. And there are people
on there who delight in pointing out how terrible it is, who should
be thrown off and how it should be moderated with rules.

I always wonder why people hang out there if they feel that way.

More fun to see faults and errors and fight to change them, than
go on one of the thousands of moderated boards they wouldn't have
problems with.

~ Carrie






--- In Disappearance_of_the_Universe@..., LindaL
<lklanglois@y...> wrote:

I have been on several discussion groups but have ended usually

fairly quickly, because I flat out don't have time to read all the
messages - never mind respond. I'm on vacation week, so I have been
able to keep up, but when I start work again next week, I may have to
either start using the delete button or read the messages online when
I have a chance. I suspect that could have happened to Marianne. She
is much busier than I, and if I can't keep up...! So sounds as if she
never read them and it may have been someone she appointed to keep
charge of them who deleted them.

Martha can attest to me that sometimes there is just no way to make

peace. We both happened on a very small discussion group one time
where there was nothing but arguments going on and both made attempts
to make peace. We were totally ignored! They did not WANT peace! We
both finally gave up as we were only talking to ourselves or each
other and we can do that by regular mail! LOL It was really amusing
to us, right Martha?

On this discussion group there are over 90 members. Most rarely

post or never do. I suspect many of them are very busy, too. Some may
be shy. Some just like to look on. Some have differing views. It is a
Course group but the same lessons keep popping up, and the solution
is all the same.

Love,

Linda


starchild1124 <starchild1124@y...> wrote:



Marianne Williamson's boards...

Were up for around 3 years.

[cut to save space]


~ Carrie





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I think it's something you have to decide and feel is "right" for
you (or not).

Doesn't really matter what others are doing, or Ken suing anyone,
etc.etc.

It's only a book.

It says in it, after doing the workbook lessons that we're not in
the hands of our "Inner Teacher".

I haven't been too good at this, I'm not a natural listener (LOL)

I take what feels right to me from a lot of things (books, tapes,
my own thinking, etc) and pass over what doesn't.

This might change from day to day, or minute to minute.

I don't "do" the lessons anymore, and don't really read the book to
much now. I figure if I don't know what it says by now, I probably
never will.

I've been in sort of a put it into my life mode for the past few
years. I think since the time I got a computer and online.

I don't think I'm a spiritual teacher, or probably even a good
example of ACIM.

I'm a human being on the planet earth, illusion as it may be, doing
the best I can like everyone else.

I don't know how to be anything else.

I think all we can do is remember to look inside ourselves and
not "out there" for answers.

I, myself don't think Ken and Endeaver Academy are living what
ACIM teaches, and if one side would back down and let the other
be "right" THAT side would be the real winner.

Just my own opinion about it.

It's only a book. And anyting can (and sometimes is) used as an ego
issue.

But only one ego can see ego issues in anyone else.

The course doesn't let us get away with anything.

Good thing we can choose to learn through joy instead of pain, and
at each moment we can start again.

Over and over and over and over.

~ Carrie






--- In Disappearance_of_the_Universe@..., "sonnetone"
<sonnet.one@n...> wrote:

Hi Carrie,
I read ACIM a few years ago, but only got to number 12 in the

lessons. I

really only half understood the text because I don't really have a

Church

background and the Jesus thing kind of put me off. Having read

Gary's book I

have gone back to reading some of it and find it makes more sense

now, even

if I am still a bit taken aback by the whole notion of unreal

worlds not

created by God and reappearing ascended Masters etc.
I always did resonate, though, with the idea of the Comforter being

sent to

bring you peace-for me that would equate with the Holy Spirit who

sees your

error but does not believe in it.
Anyway, following on from this little backgound info, I would like

to ask if

you know of any sites where I might find some of the history to the

court

cases and fall outs amongst the ACIM factions. I am interested, as

I've been

loosely involved in groups before and it's only after you've been

involved

awhile you get to hear all the things that would have made you

leave sooner

rather later. All does not appear to be as rosy in the ACIM garden

as I

thought and I would just like to more aware of where the thorns

are. I don't

want to be wasting a year of my life doing lessons that have a

dubious and

disputed origin.

I thank you in advance of any advice you can give - I believe that

only a

true seeker has the temerity to ask all the questions that in the

end will

leave only silence and perhaps a knowing smile,

David


----- Original Message -----
From: "starchild1124" <starchild1124@y...>
To: <Disappearance_of_the_Universe@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 5:07 AM
Subject: [Disappearance_of_the_Universe] Re: A + P used to mean

something

This is a discussion list.... I was writing it in the spirit of
discussion.

I didn't mean it personally against Ken and his judgement.

I was told he said to someone on the phone he was suing people

over

the copyright because of an "agreement we made when we chose to

be in

the world of form/illusion".

He also sued Ryan Rothgab who believed, and believes that ACIM

was

written by Jesus (which Helen and the foundation used to INSIST

on-

that Helen had nothing to do with writing it, and now they have
changed all that and claim she is the author) and Ryan went to

court

without a lawyer and used what the court teaches as his "non

defense".

He lost and was fined a huge amount, which, with interest is now
over $200,000.

The guy works as a clown, entertaining children, and believe

ACIM

is the word of God, that he is living.

I know his peace isn't disturbed by the fine and how it will
probably be a million dollars by the time he dies, and I know he
needs or wants no defense.

We're told not to see ourselves (or others) as unfairly treated
and victims of the world we see.

But, going by Ken's beliefs that we made an agreement to go by

the

laws of the world (like suing people over the ownership of WORDS)

it

doesn't seem like a very nice thing to take someone who had

websites

based on ACIM and bring him to court, win, and now hold a

$200,000+

settlement over them.

Ken could have taken him to court, won and not asked for damages
from a person who will never be able to pay it. He could have
FORGIVEN Ryan for his mistakes- for believing the course was

written

by Jesus and given to the world to live and share.

It's only words in a book, and form.

Ken uses the excuse he wants to protect the course and keep

people

from changing it and using it out of context, but after reading

the

Urtext and seeing home much he changed it, that's kind of a joke.

Also, seems like he could be more of an example of living what

it

says, in the way he treats his "brothers in Christ".

That probably sounds judgemental, but is coming from the point

of

view that he takes.

We're in the world and this is how the world is and sees

things.

Maybe he's making the point that it's not possible to put "what
the course teaches" into our lives, while living in the world of

form.

Doesn't sound at all like the tapes he made, that I used to

listen

to right after I got the book.

But then he also used to tell about how Helen never wanted to

be

known as the author of the book, and now he has proven in a court

of

law that she was.

Not a big deal, just as I said- discussion on a discussion

board.

without discussion it would just be a "board"

~ Carrie




--- In Disappearance_of_the_Universe@..., "mstreet"
<mastreet@t...> wrote:

I sent this in early this morning but apparently it has

evaporated

or something or other. So I am pasting and sending this same

response

in again, and see what happens. :-) I just hope it doesn't come
across as being to harsh. I just feel that we have no way of

knowing

how another is being guided.

Carrie wrote:

Of course, then he might have to try and explain how his views

about suing people over the words in it relates to what it says

in

it.<<

Carrie:

I don't know, and I doubt if you know, the reason for Ken doing

whatever it is he doing. Maybe it is some agreement he made with
Helen, based on what her inner guidance was, or maybe it is part

of

his own forgiveness lessons.

How does that relate to all the course says, like "to have,

give

all to all" and we can only keep something by giving it away?<<

Now to me, this is talking about the Holy Spirit's Thought

system.

In order for me to know that I have that Thought system in my

mind, I

need to give it to all. If I restrict it to just a few, then I am
saying it is not true.

The Course tells us, our minds are split, between the wrong

minded

thought system of the ego, and the Holy Spirit's Thoughts, in our
right minds. I am not different from my brother in this. And I

also

share with them in the need of awakening.

The more I accept the Atonement or forgiveness (for myself) for

my

wrong perceptions, the more I am allowing the love of the Holy

Spirit

to reflect through me. As I do that more and more, I see that like
me, my brother too, has a right mind, that he can turn to,

whenever

he so chooses. As I acknowledge that, I am strengthening it in my
mind, "to have all, give to all." I am seeing that we are truly
joined in our minds. That the separation had no effect on the

truth,

that we are one.

~ Martha

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I noticed you wrote "This world does not work"

I have written this before, too. "The world is upside down and
backwards and not meant to work". I thought this was in ACIM, but
can't find it, at least in that way.

Maybe Ken W. or Marianne Williamson paraphrased on a tape.

The last time I wrote this, someone (forget who) corrected me and
said that's not true. The world DOES WORK. It works perfectly.

It works at being what it is- ego/separation.

But it does work. It works just fine, being "the world".

It just doesn't work the way we might think it should, going by
what ACIM teaches.

But if it was like that, it would no longer be the world.
Ego/illusion.

It wouldn't be anything.

Not saying you're wrong, and I do know what you mean by "The world
doesn't work".

Just thought I'd pass that perspective about it on.

I had never thought of it like that before.

~ Carrie






--- In Disappearance_of_the_Universe@..., BBFBBN@a...
wrote:

Hello melbywells@e...,

In reference to your comment:

è Maybe the older we are the easier it is to *practice*
è forgiveness.

I just think that the older we are the more practice we had at

trying to make

this a better world, we try so hard to carve out our little "niche"

and still

feel empty and realize that it is not working and then we ask for

help.

I was introduced to the Course in 1988. I was in my mid 30's

having gone

through another failed relationship ... due to my attraction to men

who were

addicts.

And it answered a lot of questions for me .. it made sense .. but I

still had

to go through stuff ... I still had to try to make this world a

better place

for me ... I wanted equality for Black people, try to find that

good black

man ... I had causes ... but no matter what I did nothing seemed

to work. When

my son got sick I knew I needed help and I found Joe Jessup and

Course Talk.

Even then I knew I had another classroom to go through and when my

son passed

away ... I just shut down ... however, it was my core belief in the

Course ..

that this world is not real, that escape through suicide or

whatever was not

the answer. There is no place to escape in a dream ... all I

could do was

wake up .. and I was and still am too fearful to do that.

I am now 48 now and after reading Gary's Book and recently

attending the

workshops conducted by Ken ... it is almost like I am seeing the

Course with new

eyes.

This world DOES NOT WORK.

I understand that now.

Now I am ready to intensify my study and attention in sticking with

the Right

Teacher and stop thinking that I have the answers.

And I believe that for most folks, that comes with age and time.

Peace

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A man goes to see the Rabbi. "Rabbi, something terrible is
happening and I have to talk to you about it." The Rabbi
asked, "What's wrong?" The man replied, "My wife is poisoning me."
The Rabbi, very surprised by this asks, "How can that be?"
The man then pleads, "I'm telling you, I"m certain she's
poisoning me. What should I do?"
The Rabbi then offers, "Tell you what. Let me talk to her. I'll
see what I can find out and I'll let you know."
A week later the Rabbi calls the man and says, "Well, I spoke to
your wife. I spoke to her on the phone for three hours. You want my
advice?"
The man said yes and the Rabbi replied, "Take the poison."