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Does anyone know of a good brand of these pesky connectors?? By good I mean NOT a plastic body that melts at the mere sight of a soldering iron?? I have soldered more than a few connections in my life but I really hate having to put one of these together.? Even fine wire and micro tip with the heat turned down I seem to ruin three to get one good one made up.? A PTFE body would be excellent but I haven't found them---yet.
Paul K0UYA
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Yeah, all the DINs I have do melt extremely easily!
The trick I found is to plug them into the socket while soldering.
The problem I saw was the pin alignment drifted, is that what you are seeing?
73,
Gary
WB6OGD
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On 4/9/2021 7:45 AM, Paul Kraemer wrote: Does anyone know of a good brand of these pesky connectors?? By good I mean NOT a plastic body that melts at the mere sight of a soldering iron?? I have soldered more than a few connections in my life but I really hate having to put one of these together.? Even fine wire and micro tip with the heat turned down I seem to ruin three to get one good one made up.? A PTFE body would be excellent but I haven't found them---yet.
Paul K0UYA
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Have you tried Neutrik? I've never used their DIN connectors but other connectors that I have used are primo top-notch stuff. 73 -Jim NU0C On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 09:45:26 -0500 "Paul Kraemer" <elespe@...> wrote: Does anyone know of a good brand of these pesky connectors?? By good I
mean NOT a plastic body that melts at the mere sight of a soldering
iron?? I have soldered more than a few connections in my life but I
really hate having to put one of these together.? Even fine wire and
micro tip with the heat turned down I seem to ruin three to get one good
one made up.? A PTFE body would be excellent but I haven't found them---yet.
Paul K0UYA
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As a caution, not all DIN connectors have the same spacing/orientation for a given number of pins. ?Not sure they have distinguishing part numbers.
73,
Evan, K9SQG
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From: wb6ogd <garywinblad@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, Apr 9, 2021 11:10 am
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] DIN connectors
Yeah, all the DINs I have do melt extremely easily!
The trick I found is to plug them into the socket while soldering.
The problem I saw was the pin alignment drifted, is that what you are
seeing?
73,
Gary
WB6OGD
On 4/9/2021 7:45 AM, Paul Kraemer wrote:
> Does anyone know of a good brand of these pesky connectors?? By good I
> mean NOT a plastic body that melts at the mere sight of a soldering
> iron?? I have soldered more than a few connections in my life but I
> really hate having to put one of these together.? Even fine wire and
> micro tip with the heat turned down I seem to ruin three to get one
> good one made up.? A PTFE body would be excellent but I haven't found
> them---yet.
>
> Paul K0UYA
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One theory is higher heat and shorter period of time on the junction. Heat the junction quickly and as soon as the solder flows get off of it before the plastic starts to soften. Takes practice.?
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On Apr 9, 2021, at 12:52 PM, Evan via groups.io <k9sqg@...> wrote:
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As a caution, not all DIN connectors have the same spacing/orientation for a given number of pins. ?Not sure they have distinguishing part numbers.
73,
Evan, K9SQG
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From: wb6ogd <garywinblad@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, Apr 9, 2021 11:10 am
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] DIN connectors
Yeah, all the DINs I have do melt extremely easily!
The trick I found is to plug them into the socket while soldering.
The problem I saw was the pin alignment drifted, is that what you are
seeing?
73,
Gary
WB6OGD
On 4/9/2021 7:45 AM, Paul Kraemer wrote:
> Does anyone know of a good brand of these pesky connectors?? By good I
> mean NOT a plastic body that melts at the mere sight of a soldering
> iron?? I have soldered more than a few connections in my life but I
> really hate having to put one of these together.? Even fine wire and
> micro tip with the heat turned down I seem to ruin three to get one
> good one made up.? A PTFE body would be excellent but I haven't found
> them---yet.
>
> Paul K0UYA
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I gave up on soldering DIN connectors a long time ago. I just buy a
cable with the correct connectors on each end, cut it in half, and make
the attachments to the wires in a home made break-out box.
Mike, W1NR
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On 4/9/2021 10:45 AM, Paul Kraemer wrote: Does anyone know of a good brand of these pesky connectors?? By good I
mean NOT a plastic body that melts at the mere sight of a soldering
iron?? I have soldered more than a few connections in my life but I
really hate having to put one of these together.? Even fine wire and
micro tip with the heat turned down I seem to ruin three to get one good
one made up.? A PTFE body would be excellent but I haven't found
them---yet.
Paul K0UYA
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I hear ya, Mike!
From Central NC and not Westford...
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow.? Fruit flies like a banana.
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On Friday, April 9, 2021 3:12 PM, Michael McCarthy <lists@...> wrote: I gave up on soldering DIN connectors a long time ago. I just buy a
cable with the correct connectors on each end, cut it in half, and make
the attachments to the wires in a home made break-out box.
Mike, W1NR
On 4/9/2021 10:45 AM, Paul Kraemer wrote:
Does anyone know of a good brand of these pesky connectors?? By good I
mean NOT a plastic body that melts at the mere sight of a soldering
iron?? I have soldered more than a few connections in my life but I
really hate having to put one of these together.? Even fine wire and
micro tip with the heat turned down I seem to ruin three to get one good
one made up.? A PTFE body would be excellent but I haven't found
them---yet.
Paul K0UYA
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Fully agree, Neutrik is really good stuff. Worth every Cent.
You may also try Hirschmann/Belden connectors. I had good
experience with them, too.
Sometimes you can tell just from the price. If it's too cheap,
don't be surprised if it's not worth more than you paid. If it
comes to coaxial (and other) connectors, I make no more
compromises. Did that when I was as student and had little money.
Often ended up with melted connectors...
Someone said that proper heat is important. I second that. Too
low temperatures of your solding iron are usually worse than too
high. You just have to keep the time short.
Good luck with your next DIN connector!
73, Dieter DL5RDO
Am 09.04.2021 um 18:44 schrieb Jim
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Have you tried Neutrik? I've never used their DIN connectors but other connectors that I have used are primo top-notch stuff.
73
-Jim
NU0C
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 09:45:26 -0500
"Paul Kraemer" <elespe@...> wrote:
Does anyone know of a good brand of these pesky connectors?? By good I
mean NOT a plastic body that melts at the mere sight of a soldering
iron?? I have soldered more than a few connections in my life but I
really hate having to put one of these together.? Even fine wire and
micro tip with the heat turned down I seem to ruin three to get one good
one made up.? A PTFE body would be excellent but I haven't found them---yet.
Paul K0UYA
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I have soldered thousands of 5 pin dins! CB radio days . Flux is your friend here just a little. Then a small tip and a very hot iron +760deg . If you hold iron on post for more than 2 seconds it’s going to melt ! I earlier post someone said put the din in the socket . ?We had a junk radio on a pan vise , just a 2 “ by ?2”. Part of radio with socket. Worked great ! You could turn it for next wire and it was a heat sink.? ? It takes practice! Remember fixing a lot of dins that CBer tried to wire .? High heat ? ?Flux. ?No more than 2 seconds or even less ?! You should have a fighting chance!? 73s Byron AC9PA?
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On Apr 10, 2021, at 8:29 AM, Dieter Horst <dieter.horst@...> wrote: ?
Fully agree, Neutrik is really good stuff. Worth every Cent.
You may also try Hirschmann/Belden connectors. I had good
experience with them, too.
Sometimes you can tell just from the price. If it's too cheap,
don't be surprised if it's not worth more than you paid. If it
comes to coaxial (and other) connectors, I make no more
compromises. Did that when I was as student and had little money.
Often ended up with melted connectors...
Someone said that proper heat is important. I second that. Too
low temperatures of your solding iron are usually worse than too
high. You just have to keep the time short.
Good luck with your next DIN connector!
73, Dieter DL5RDO
Am 09.04.2021 um 18:44 schrieb Jim
Shorney:
Have you tried Neutrik? I've never used their DIN connectors but other connectors that I have used are primo top-notch stuff.
73
-Jim
NU0C
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 09:45:26 -0500
"Paul Kraemer" <elespe@...> wrote:
Does anyone know of a good brand of these pesky connectors?? By good I
mean NOT a plastic body that melts at the mere sight of a soldering
iron?? I have soldered more than a few connections in my life but I
really hate having to put one of these together.? Even fine wire and
micro tip with the heat turned down I seem to ruin three to get one good
one made up.? A PTFE body would be excellent but I haven't found them---yet.
Paul K0UYA
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One "trick" I have ?used is to put a "heatsink clip" (pointed nose) on each pin that I soldered and that seemed to help. ?I clipped it on the base if there was room, from ?the end if there wasn't. ?Worked for me.
73,
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Similar?to Evan's procedure, I have used narrow-tipped locking forceps. I've also used those "third hand" helpers with the dual alligator clips.?
One "trick" I have ?used is to put a "heatsink clip" (pointed nose) on each pin that I soldered and that seemed to help.? I clipped it on the base if there was room, from ?the end if there wasn't.? Worked for me.
73,
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The same problem can arise with a
DIN socket. Poking a piece of copper wire into
each pin-socket in turn and using a hot iron quickly on a clean
tag worked well.
Michael 2E0IHW
On 10/04/2021 18:04, Evan via groups.io
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One "trick" I have ?used is to put a "heatsink clip"
(pointed nose) on each pin that I soldered and that seemed to
help. ?I clipped it on the base if there was room, from ?the
end if there wasn't. ?Worked for me.
Evan, K9SQG
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Does anyone know of a good brand of these pesky connectors?? By good I mean NOT a plastic body that melts at the mere sight of a soldering iron?? I have soldered more than a few connections in my life but I really hate having to put one of these together.? Even fine wire and micro tip with the heat turned down I seem to ruin three to get one good one made up.? A PTFE body would be excellent but I haven't found them---yet.
Paul K0UYA
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Try rfconnection.com.? Bob - W3DK.
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-------- Original message -------- From: Paul Kraemer <elespe@...> Date: 4/12/21 20:42 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [DRAKE-RADIO] DIN connectors
Does anyone know of a good brand of these pesky connectors?? By good I mean NOT a plastic body that melts at the mere sight of a soldering iron?? I have soldered more than a few connections in my life but I really hate having to put one of these together.? Even fine wire and micro tip with the heat turned down I seem to ruin three to get one good one made up.? A PTFE body would be excellent but I haven't found them---yet. Paul K0UYA
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On 4/12/21 7:42 PM, Paul Kraemer wrote: Even fine wire and micro tip with the heat turned down I seem to
ruin three to get one good one made up. You're doing it wrong. A HOT tip. Get on and off quickly. Use RMA rosin flux in addition to the core flux. And, personally, use 63/37 solder. 0.032" -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWI www.foxsmercantile.com
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Turn up the heat!
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On Apr 12, 2021, at 7:42 PM, Paul Kraemer <elespe@...> wrote:
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Does anyone know of a good brand of these pesky connectors? By good I mean NOT a plastic body that melts at the mere sight of a soldering iron? I have soldered more than a few connections in my life but I really hate having to put one of these together. Even fine wire and micro tip with the heat turned down I seem to ruin three to get one good one made up. A PTFE body would be excellent but I haven't found them---yet.
Paul K0UYA
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I'll add that a larger tip with more thermal mass will get the job done quicker. 73 -Jim NU0C On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 21:30:32 -0500 "Jeffrey Angus" <jdangus@...> wrote: On 4/12/21 7:42 PM, Paul Kraemer wrote:
Even fine wire and micro tip with the heat turned down I seem to
ruin three to get one good one made up. You're doing it wrong. A HOT tip. Get on and off quickly.
Use RMA rosin flux in addition to the core flux.
And, personally, use 63/37 solder. 0.032"
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The Metal Body circular DIN connectors exist, BUT typical hobbyist & radio amateur will Constantly Complain about PRICE. These two (2) manufacturers are found through ALL Major Electronics Distributors:
RS (former Allied Electronics); Mouser; Newark; Digi-Key; Farnell (UK, EU); and Future. DELTRON COMPONENTS (North Lincolnshire, UK)
SWITCHCRAFT/CONXALL (Chicago area, USA)
DIN CABLE MOUNT
greg, w9gb
Conxall (military) division is in my neighborhood
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My memory isn't good enough to give specifics but I do remember that there are different DIN connectors that retain the same designation. ?As I vaguely recall, it might be 4, 5, pin styles. While they might have the same number ?of pins, they may not have identical arrangements. ?This can make connector selection confusing.
Please send flames off list.
73,
Evan, K9SQG
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From: Gregory Beat via groups.io <w9gb@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Mar 12, 2023 1:12 pm
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] DIN connectors
The Metal Body circular DIN connectors exist,
BUT typical hobbyist & radio amateur will Constantly Complain about PRICE.
DELTRON COMPONENTS (North Lincolnshire, UK)
SWITCHCRAFT/CONXALL (Chicago area, USA)
DIN CABLE MOUNT
greg, w9gb
Conxall (military) division is in my neighborhood
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Gary WB6OGD
Jim Shorney
Greg W9GB