Sure they do...
And pay 10% to play the game?
Try again.
Jim W7RY
On 4/4/2023 2:58 PM, joe braswell
wrote:
i imagine they have a group of friend who buy each
other's stuff but never actually pay for it.? this was they can
say "snooze, you lose" to bait you into another bidding frenzy.
:-D
On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 2:37?PM
Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) < lyndon@...>
wrote:
Eric
writes:
> Did you guys see that #44261 just sold on eBay for over
$2500!=C2=A0 I was =
> amazed to say the least! I really had no idea they where
worth that much.
On eBay, never equate selling/listing price with 'worth'.
For an example, look at the absolutely stupid listing prices
that
some jackass in Australia has on his/her Drake and other
listings.
There is also a character on Vancouver Island who regularly
lists
old Swan gear, and occasionally Drake gear, for completely
absurd
prices.? And his shipping charges are even more insane.? The
listings
do come and go, so maybe there are people out there stupid
enough
to pay those ridiculously inflated prices.? Or maybe he just
hauls
the stuff to the dump.? What I can't figure out is how he
acquirs
it all in the first place.? He is not exactly located in the
middle
of a metropolis.
--lyndon
--
Thanks and 73, Jim W7RY
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Something is "worth" exactly what the buyer pays for it.
Sometimes that's $50, sometimes that's $500.
John K5MO
On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 3:33?PM Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via <w1es= [email protected]> wrote: The price, and thus the value or worth of an item is exactly what a willing buyer and seller are willing to agree on.?
If the buyer perceives value, who am I or anyone else to say that he’s wrong?
73,
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Sent from Proton Mail for iOS
On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 14:37, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) < lyndon@...> wrote: Eric writes:
> Did you guys see that #44261 just sold on eBay for over $2500!=C2=A0 I was =
> amazed to say the least! I really had no idea they where worth that much.
On eBay, never equate selling/listing price with 'worth'.
For an example, look at the absolutely stupid listing prices that
some jackass in Australia has on his/her Drake and other listings.
There is also a character on Vancouver Island who regularly lists
old Swan gear, and occasionally Drake gear, for completely absurd
prices. And his shipping charges are even more insane. The listings
do come and go, so maybe there are people out there stupid enough
to pay those ridiculously inflated prices. Or maybe he just hauls
the stuff to the dump. What I can't figure out is how he acquirs
it all in the first place. He is not exactly located in the middle
of a metropolis.
--lyndon
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Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
I continue to be amazed at how many people are bothered by this.
If you don't want to buy it, move on! Not your monkeys, not your
circus But it does. When people pay these stupid prices, it drives up the price for the entire marketplace, and that *does* affect me. --lyndon
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Re: L4B and PSU SPLY for sale
Hello Chris,
I'm interested.? Shipping would be required.? Can you share pictures?
Thank you Chris.
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An insurance fraud investigator acquaintance of mine, once told us people with advertise (Then in local sales papers, like the Big Nickel) to establish an asking price, then ‘lose’ the item(s) and subsequentially claim a loss through the insuring insurance company. ? He told us this was a fraud ‘game’ that was hard to prove, so hard, in? fact,? that the fraud carried over into housing and building insurance.? List for a ridiculous price, take it off the market, and later torch it? and claim the ‘established’ loss. ? Also hard to prove……. ? Joe – W7RKN ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2023 12:33 PM
To: [email protected]; echapm4@...
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] Stupid eBay Pricing? The price, and thus the value or worth of an item is exactly what a willing buyer and seller are willing to agree on.? If the buyer perceives value, who am I or anyone else to say that he’s wrong? 73, Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana. Sent from Proton Mail for iOS On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 14:37, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) <lyndon@...> wrote: Eric writes:
> Did you guys see that #44261 just sold on eBay for over $2500!=C2=A0 I was =
> amazed to say the least! I really had no idea they where worth that much.
On eBay, never equate selling/listing price with 'worth'.
For an example, look at the absolutely stupid listing prices that
some jackass in Australia has on his/her Drake and other listings.
There is also a character on Vancouver Island who regularly lists
old Swan gear, and occasionally Drake gear, for completely absurd
prices. And his shipping charges are even more insane. The listings
do come and go, so maybe there are people out there stupid enough
to pay those ridiculously inflated prices. Or maybe he just hauls
the stuff to the dump. What I can't figure out is how he acquirs
it all in the first place. He is not exactly located in the middle
of a metropolis.
--lyndon
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Are talking about a Drake 2C for $2,500?
Tim
WB8UHZ
On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 04:47:18 PM EDT, Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io <w1es@...> wrote:
I continue to be amazed at how many people are bothered by this.? If you don't want to buy it, move on!? Not your monkeys, not your circus.
73,
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow.? Fruit flies like a banana.
Sent with secure email.
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On Tuesday, April 4th, 2023 at 4:33 PM, Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
When E-Bay dropped the
commission fees that they had when E-Bay first started, thats
when all this crap started.
I remember when E-Bay first started, I don't remember what % it
was say 5%.
When you sold something they would get 5% of the sale.
BUT.. in those days if you listed something crazy like as
described below, if it did NOT sell, and time ran out the seller
still had to pay the 5% of the asking price it wasn't free
listings like now.
They got their 5% if it sold or not.
That stopped all that crazy listings you had to set a reasonable
price because you were gonna give E-Bay 5% no matter what.
Joe WB9SBD
On 4/4/2023 1:37 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg
(VE7TFX/VE6BBM) wrote:
Eric writes:
Did you guys see that #44261 just sold on eBay for over $2500!=C2=A0 I was =
amazed to say the least! I really had no idea they where worth that much.
On eBay, never equate selling/listing price with 'worth'.
For an example, look at the absolutely stupid listing prices that
some jackass in Australia has on his/her Drake and other listings.
There is also a character on Vancouver Island who regularly lists
old Swan gear, and occasionally Drake gear, for completely absurd
prices. And his shipping charges are even more insane. The listings
do come and go, so maybe there are people out there stupid enough
to pay those ridiculously inflated prices. Or maybe he just hauls
the stuff to the dump. What I can't figure out is how he acquirs
it all in the first place. He is not exactly located in the middle
of a metropolis.
--lyndon
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I continue to be amazed at how many people are bothered by this.? If you don't want to buy it, move on!? Not your monkeys, not your circus.
73,
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow.? Fruit flies like a banana.
Sent with secure email.
------- Original Message -------
On Tuesday, April 4th, 2023 at 4:33 PM, Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
When E-Bay dropped the
commission fees that they had when E-Bay first started, thats
when all this crap started.
I remember when E-Bay first started, I don't remember what % it
was say 5%.
When you sold something they would get 5% of the sale.
BUT.. in those days if you listed something crazy like as
described below, if it did NOT sell, and time ran out the seller
still had to pay the 5% of the asking price it wasn't free
listings like now.
They got their 5% if it sold or not.
That stopped all that crazy listings you had to set a reasonable
price because you were gonna give E-Bay 5% no matter what.
Joe WB9SBD
On 4/4/2023 1:37 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg
(VE7TFX/VE6BBM) wrote:
Eric writes:
Did you guys see that #44261 just sold on eBay for over $2500!=C2=A0 I was =
amazed to say the least! I really had no idea they where worth that much.
On eBay, never equate selling/listing price with 'worth'.
For an example, look at the absolutely stupid listing prices that
some jackass in Australia has on his/her Drake and other listings.
There is also a character on Vancouver Island who regularly lists
old Swan gear, and occasionally Drake gear, for completely absurd
prices. And his shipping charges are even more insane. The listings
do come and go, so maybe there are people out there stupid enough
to pay those ridiculously inflated prices. Or maybe he just hauls
the stuff to the dump. What I can't figure out is how he acquirs
it all in the first place. He is not exactly located in the middle
of a metropolis.
--lyndon
|
When E-Bay dropped the
commission fees that they had when E-Bay first started, thats
when all this crap started.
I remember when E-Bay first started, I don't remember what % it
was say 5%.
When you sold something they would get 5% of the sale.
BUT..? in those days if you listed something crazy like as
described below, if it did NOT sell, and time ran out the seller
still had to pay the 5% of the asking price it wasn't free
listings like now.
They got their 5% if it sold or not.
That stopped all that crazy listings you had to set a reasonable
price because you were gonna give E-Bay 5% no matter what.
Joe WB9SBD
On 4/4/2023 1:37 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg
(VE7TFX/VE6BBM) wrote:
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Eric writes:
Did you guys see that #44261 just sold on eBay for over $2500!=C2=A0 I was =
amazed to say the least! I really had no idea they where worth that much.
On eBay, never equate selling/listing price with 'worth'.
For an example, look at the absolutely stupid listing prices that
some jackass in Australia has on his/her Drake and other listings.
There is also a character on Vancouver Island who regularly lists
old Swan gear, and occasionally Drake gear, for completely absurd
prices. And his shipping charges are even more insane. The listings
do come and go, so maybe there are people out there stupid enough
to pay those ridiculously inflated prices. Or maybe he just hauls
the stuff to the dump. What I can't figure out is how he acquirs
it all in the first place. He is not exactly located in the middle
of a metropolis.
--lyndon
|
i imagine they have a group of friend who buy each other's stuff but never actually pay for it.? this was they can say "snooze, you lose" to bait you into another bidding frenzy. :-D
On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 2:37?PM Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) < lyndon@...> wrote: Eric writes:
> Did you guys see that #44261 just sold on eBay for over $2500!=C2=A0 I was =
> amazed to say the least! I really had no idea they where worth that much.
On eBay, never equate selling/listing price with 'worth'.
For an example, look at the absolutely stupid listing prices that
some jackass in Australia has on his/her Drake and other listings.
There is also a character on Vancouver Island who regularly lists
old Swan gear, and occasionally Drake gear, for completely absurd
prices.? And his shipping charges are even more insane.? The listings
do come and go, so maybe there are people out there stupid enough
to pay those ridiculously inflated prices.? Or maybe he just hauls
the stuff to the dump.? What I can't figure out is how he acquirs
it all in the first place.? He is not exactly located in the middle
of a metropolis.
--lyndon
|
Re: TR4cw/rit production numbers question
I have S/N 44195
73, Jim W7RY
On 4/4/2023 11:44 AM, Eric wrote:
I have #45407 that just got back from a trip to see Ron Baker in
January. Looking thru this thread I think that is the latest
serial number that has been listed.??
It works great and I am really happy to have it.? Picked it up at
a garage sale in 2019, and in fact I didn't even realize it was a
RIT version until I got it home. I had just thought it was a CW
version.?Also got a set of B line twins at same sale, and of
course two sets of AC-4 and MS-4.? All in like new condition.? He
had an L4B for but had no power supply so I passed as he really
wanted to much for it.? He told me that he had listed it on
Facebook marketplace for over a year and that I was the first one
to come see it that even knew what it was.? I just happened to see
all the Drake stuff on a table in the driveway as I drove by and
had to stop.? Boy am I glad I did!
Did you guys see that #44261 just sold on eBay for over $2500!? I
was amazed to say the least! I really had no idea they where worth
that much.?
73,
Eric
K8CCA
--
Thanks and 73, Jim W7RY
|
The price, and thus the value or worth of an item is exactly what a willing buyer and seller are willing to agree on.?
If the buyer perceives value, who am I or anyone else to say that he’s wrong?
73,
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Sent from Proton Mail for iOS
On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 14:37, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) < lyndon@...> wrote: Eric writes:
> Did you guys see that #44261 just sold on eBay for over $2500!=C2=A0 I was =
> amazed to say the least! I really had no idea they where worth that much.
On eBay, never equate selling/listing price with 'worth'.
For an example, look at the absolutely stupid listing prices that
some jackass in Australia has on his/her Drake and other listings.
There is also a character on Vancouver Island who regularly lists
old Swan gear, and occasionally Drake gear, for completely absurd
prices. And his shipping charges are even more insane. The listings
do come and go, so maybe there are people out there stupid enough
to pay those ridiculously inflated prices. Or maybe he just hauls
the stuff to the dump. What I can't figure out is how he acquirs
it all in the first place. He is not exactly located in the middle
of a metropolis.
--lyndon
|
Re: TR4cw/rit production numbers question
Drake seemed married to big dropping resistors, as with the R-4C and L-4B. ?I didn’t know about the TR-4C with RIT drift issue. ?Not a surprise considering Drake’s History. ?
By the way Paul, I just learned from Warren Pratt about your involvement in the Apache Saturn project.
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On Apr 4, 2023, at 12:46 PM, Paul Christensen <w9ac@...> wrote:
?
My TR-4Cw-RIT is in mint condition and is S/N 45303.? Nice radio, but in no way is it worth $2,500.? But, a few people must have wanted one in a bad way.
?
Anyway, I’m curious if anyone with the RIT version has detected PTO drift of more than 1.2 kHz.? I’ve traced my drift to the RIT board.? In particular, the 15V Zener diode and 2W series resistor are responsible.? I used compressed air,
not freeze-mist spray to locate components most susceptible to drift. ?It’s strictly limited to the resistor and diode.
?
Next, I’ll replace both components and if it’s still an issue, my plan is to cascade a 24V Zener with a well-filtered 78L15 low-drop-out 15v regulator.? Because the TR-4C has no regulated LV, 250V is brought to the board, then regulated
by the diode-resistor combination.? The diode seems to be well within its safe Zener region.? It’s a shame that the AC-4 didn’t include a LV transformer secondary winding like the R-4C.? That would have made better LV regulation much easier to attain.
?
Paul, W9AC
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Re: Drake and station WLO
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On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 10:30 AM, John K5MO wrote: Sorry, if this has been posted before, but there's an interesting photo of Drake gear in a commercial setting in the photo at the bottom of this page:
I remember hearing WLO yrs ago. Looks like they used both 4 line an 7 line equipment
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Deal with KNOWN sellers/buyers from CCA, QTH, QRZ, clubs, in person estate auctions, friends, etc. ? eBAY and Craigs list are DANGEROUS predatory platforms/scammers…..3x burned over 9 years…..?? Looks/cosmetics can be very deceiving……So are very flowery wordy Ads.??? BEWARE! NO FREE LUNCH…….. If too good to be true,? FULL STOP!......IMHO! ? STAY SAFE AND STAY WELL!
Respectfully,
Thomas K. Lanieri, NU2W
NJ Licensed EMT; PHTLS, AMLS, PHPEC B.A.A. EMS Support ARC N.E. BioMedical Services ARC N.E. Disaster Health Services DanaFarber-Am Cancer Society ?
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Re: TR4cw/rit production numbers question
My TR-4Cw-RIT is in mint condition and is S/N 45303.? Nice radio, but in no way is it worth $2,500.? But, a few people must have wanted one in a bad way. ? Anyway, I’m curious if anyone with the RIT version has detected PTO drift of more than 1.2 kHz.? I’ve traced my drift to the RIT board.? In particular, the 15V Zener diode and 2W series resistor are responsible.? I used compressed air, not freeze-mist spray to locate components most susceptible to drift. ?It’s strictly limited to the resistor and diode. ? Next, I’ll replace both components and if it’s still an issue, my plan is to cascade a 24V Zener with a well-filtered 78L15 low-drop-out 15v regulator.? Because the TR-4C has no regulated LV, 250V is brought to the board, then regulated by the diode-resistor combination.? The diode seems to be well within its safe Zener region.? It’s a shame that the AC-4 didn’t include a LV transformer secondary winding like the R-4C.? That would have made better LV regulation much easier to attain. ? Paul, W9AC
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Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
Eric writes: Did you guys see that #44261 just sold on eBay for over $2500!=C2=A0 I was =
amazed to say the least! I really had no idea they where worth that much. On eBay, never equate selling/listing price with 'worth'. For an example, look at the absolutely stupid listing prices that some jackass in Australia has on his/her Drake and other listings. There is also a character on Vancouver Island who regularly lists old Swan gear, and occasionally Drake gear, for completely absurd prices. And his shipping charges are even more insane. The listings do come and go, so maybe there are people out there stupid enough to pay those ridiculously inflated prices. Or maybe he just hauls the stuff to the dump. What I can't figure out is how he acquirs it all in the first place. He is not exactly located in the middle of a metropolis. --lyndon
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Re: TR4cw/rit production numbers question
Eric!
Congrats on the late S/N TR4CW/RIT!!
This, according to Bill Frost,? was probably the last TR-4C
built. Back in the Seventies, Drake records indicated that the
last two built were shipped to Henry Radio in Los Angeles. This
one had the highest S/N of the two. I am the original owner.
Cheers!
de Benton? w4jba
On 4/4/2023 11:44 AM, Eric wrote:
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I have #45407 that just got back from a trip to see Ron Baker in
January. Looking thru this thread I think that is the latest
serial number that has been listed.??
It works great and I am really happy to have it.? Picked it up at
a garage sale in 2019, and in fact I didn't even realize it was a
RIT version until I got it home. I had just thought it was a CW
version.?Also got a set of B line twins at same sale, and of
course two sets of AC-4 and MS-4.? All in like new condition.? He
had an L4B for but had no power supply so I passed as he really
wanted to much for it.? He told me that he had listed it on
Facebook marketplace for over a year and that I was the first one
to come see it that even knew what it was.? I just happened to see
all the Drake stuff on a table in the driveway as I drove by and
had to stop.? Boy am I glad I did!
Did you guys see that #44261 just sold on eBay for over $2500!? I
was amazed to say the least! I really had no idea they where worth
that much.?
73,
Eric
K8CCA
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Re: Drake and station WLO
On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 10:30 AM, John K5MO wrote:
Sorry, if this has been posted before, but there's an interesting photo of Drake gear in a commercial setting in the photo at the bottom of this page:
I remember hearing WLO yrs ago. Looks like they used both 4 line an 7 line equipment
John K5MO
These are really great pics! Wonder how long the 4 line continued to be operated after the 7 line was launched in commercial settings? Probably the same for any other tube equipment.? Gradually depending upon budgets etc.
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Re: TR4cw/rit production numbers question
I have #45407 that just got back from a trip to see Ron Baker in January. Looking thru this thread I think that is the latest serial number that has been listed.??  It works great and I am really happy to have it.? Picked it up at a garage sale in 2019, and in fact I didn't even realize it was a RIT version until I got it home. I had just thought it was a CW version.?Also got a set of B line twins at same sale, and of course two sets of AC-4 and MS-4.? All in like new condition.? He had an L4B for but had no power supply so I passed as he really wanted to much for it.? He told me that he had listed it on Facebook marketplace for over a year and that I was the first one to come see it that even knew what it was.? I just happened to see all the Drake stuff on a table in the driveway as I drove by and had to stop.? Boy am I glad I did! Did you guys see that #44261 just sold on eBay for over $2500!? I was amazed to say the least! I really had no idea they where worth that much.? 73, Eric K8CCA
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Re: Drake and station WLO
Interesting pics John.? Never seen those before or even heard of WLO before.? Worth hanging onto those pics.
But....strange they used?stacks of 7-line gear in a commercial?setting when Drake was offering rack mounted SPR-4's (RR-1 and RR-2), rack mounted TR-7's with digital VFO's?(TR-4310), R-7's with digital VFO's?(R-4245) and several other earlier variants of those that were being used by marine stations, both shipboard and coastal (Radio Monaco).? Maybe saved some money?
Thanks for sharing.
73 Peter VE7PS
On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 6:35?AM John K5MO < johnk5mo@...> wrote: Another more detailed shot
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joe braswell
Rob Sherwood
NU2W
Paul Christensen
K8CCA