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Re: Drake TR-7 - A repair journey

 

Jim,

Thanks! I fear this may be one of those occasions where the best course of action is do nothing / just live with the consequences of someone else's butchery:-( I did try to move the headless screw stuck in one of the nuts, but it would not budge. My friend has a well-equipped mechanical workshop (which I do not). Maybe a small, left-handed drill bit would work.

I did find this, but it was not encouraging:


I was listening to the 20 m band on the TR-7 last night, enjoying signals from the US booming in, when the synthesiser unlocked and the digital display spun off to 17.xxx.x. I checked all of the power supply rails and they were normal. Turning the radio off for 10 minutes and then back on fixed it. This thing really is the gift that keeps giving!

Regards,

Mark, G4FPH.


Re: RV75 Issues: Part 4

 

Jim,
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Thanks for the troubleshooting tips. I do have a NanoVNA and will eventually get around to checking the crystal if this proves necessary. I'd like to eliminate other possible causes first, as removing this crystal for testing introduces the risk of damaging it. This crystal in mounted in a different way than I have seen previously; a wire is soldered to the metal crystal case and connected to a PC ground pad as shown below; I suspect this was done at the factory. If it comes to removing the crystal. I'd like to have a replacement in hand; other than case type and freq, not clear if any other specs need attention.



I will check U202 per your suggestion; I have ordered a replacement just in case. Also replacement varactors om the way.

Best,

Rick
K8EZB









Re: RV75 Issues: Part 4

 

Do you have, or know anyone who has, a NanoVNA or similar? That can be used to check the crystal. There are actually two varactors. CR216 is controlled from the digital board, CR217 is the RIT control. Check U202. It is a common analog switch IC and is a known failure point in the TR7. They are easy enough to check. When a switch section is turned on the voltage on the input and output pins should be the same. When switched off the voltages will be different.



73

-Jim
NU0C

On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 07:24:16 -0800
"Rick K8EZB" <frboswell@...> wrote:

The VCXO circuitry is somewhat complex and is implemented entirely with discrete components including several semiconductors, a 15.5 MHz crystal, a varactor diode, three variable inductors, and numerous resistors and axial lead ceramic capacitors of the type that were found failed elsewhere on the RF & Analog board. I have visually inspected this circuit under a magnifier and have checked several voltages but have so far not been able to identify a reason why the VCXO is not working. Given the number of components involved and without any clear indication of a component failure, it makes no sense to me to start replacing components, some of which may be available only by salvaging from another RV75 RF & Analog board.

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73

-Jim
NU0C


Re: Drake TR-7 - A repair journey

 

If it is not cross threaded you may be able to tease the broken stub out with a dental pick or other sharp pointy thing. Or if you had the proper tools, very carefully drill it out. I don't know of anyone who has had any success that way. Generally I dislike PEM nuts. Your options are limited. You don't want to pop it out of the chassis. If you have to replace it you need to go to the next size up and enlarge the hole accordingly.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 12:17:13 -0800
"atlasstuff" <g4fph@...> wrote:

I'm wondering what to do with the chassis screws that are broken off in their pem (I think that's what they are called) nuts. I can't imagine the nuts are designed to be pulled out and replaced. Anyone have experience to share here, please?

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73

-Jim
NU0C


Re: Drake TR-7 - A repair journey

 

Jim,

Thanks for the link to the mods. That was the ref. I had been looking for. I will check the decoupling and add an additional wire into my DC power lead.

I'm wondering what to do with the chassis screws that are broken off in their pem (I think that's what they are called) nuts. I can't imagine the nuts are designed to be pulled out and replaced. Anyone have experience to share here, please?

Regards,

Mark, G4FPH.


Re: Drake PS7 Filtercap. Spec.

 

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Hello Gregory

First of all, thank you very much for your detailed feedback.
I will now take a closer look on all the links and supporting information.
This is really good knowledge.

Br.
Bent

Fra: [email protected] <[email protected]> p? vegne af Gregory Beat via groups.io <w9gb@...>
Sendt: 14. februar 2024 14:58
Til: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Emne: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] Drake PS7 Filtercap. Spec.
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[Edited Message Follows]

Brent -

Drake PS7 Power Supply used two (2) 15,000 mFd, 30 VDC electrolytic capacitors

Let¡¯s start with the Datasheets (17 pages) for Mallory Electrolytic Capacitors (circa 1980s - 1990s)

The Drake PS7 used Screw Terminal Electrolytic capacitors for DC Power Filtering.
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In the 1990s, Cornell Dubliner Electronics (CDE) acquired the Mallory Electrolytic capacitors.


READING Parts Number for CDE Electrolytic Capacitors


The CGR series of electrolytic capacitors are manufactured by CDE today.
Mouser, Digi-Key, & Master Electronics are distributors,
BUT this specific model may have to be Ordered (Production Lead Time)

Pricing will be in the range of $50 to $60 each (depending on Distributor¡¯s orders)
CGR153U030V3L : 15,000 mFd, 30 VDC (45 VDC surge), 2¡± diameter, 3.67¡± height

CDE shows 67 ¡°in stock¡± (CGR153U030V3L)


MASTER ELECTRONICS has 63 pieces, In Stock. $66.97 Each.


The CGR series (CDE, former Mallory) was updated in 2005 to meet global RoHS (no lead)
CDE recommends the 550C series for New Designs (see below).


CDE Type 550C, 105¡ãC High Ripple, Inverter Grade, Aluminum


SUBSTITUTION CRITERIA?
  1. Match for Capacity (mFd) and Working Voltage (VDC)
  2. Select for Screw Terminal Spacing?
  3. Select to be No Larger than Original (Diameter, Height)
==
The Mallory ¡°FP¡± Twist-Lock versions were acquired by Antique Electronic Supply (Arizona)
They manufacture these Metal Can capacitors with original Mallory equipment (imported from Mexico)

List of CE Manufacturing Products

¡ª
Hayseed Hamfest (Iowa) is another ¡°FP¡±-type metal can capacitor supplier for restorers
of 1950s thru 1970s vacuum tube audio amplifiers and radios.

==
Greg, W9GB


Re: Drake PS7 Filtercap. Spec.

 
Edited

Brent -

Drake PS7 Power Supply used two (2) 15,000 mFd, 30 VDC electrolytic capacitors

Let¡¯s start with the Datasheets (17 pages) for Mallory Electrolytic Capacitors (circa 1980s - 1990s)

The Drake PS7 used Screw Terminal Electrolytic capacitors for DC Power Filtering.
¡ª
In the 1990s, Cornell Dubliner Electronics (CDE) acquired the Mallory Electrolytic capacitors.


READING Parts Number for CDE Electrolytic Capacitors


The CGR series of electrolytic capacitors are manufactured by CDE today.
Mouser, Digi-Key, & Master Electronics are distributors,
BUT this specific model may have to be Ordered (Production Lead Time)

Pricing will be in the range of $50 to $60 each (depending on Distributor¡¯s orders)
CGR153U030V3L : 15,000 mFd, 30 VDC (45 VDC surge), 2¡± diameter, 3.67¡± height

CDE shows 67 ¡°in stock¡± (CGR153U030V3L)


MASTER ELECTRONICS has 63 pieces, In Stock. $66.97 Each.


The CGR series (CDE, former Mallory) was updated in 2005 to meet global RoHS (no lead)
CDE recommends the 550C series for New Designs (see below).


CDE Type 550C, 105¡ãC High Ripple, Inverter Grade, Aluminum


SUBSTITUTION CRITERIA?
  1. Match for Capacity (mFd) and Working Voltage (VDC)
  2. Select for Screw Terminal Spacing?
  3. Select to be No Larger than Original (Diameter, Height)
==
The Mallory ¡°FP¡± Twist-Lock versions were acquired by Antique Electronic Supply (Arizona)
They manufacture these Metal Can capacitors with original Mallory equipment (imported from Mexico)

List of CE Manufacturing Products

¡ª
Hayseed Hamfest (Iowa) is another ¡°FP¡±-type metal can capacitor supplier for restorers
of 1950s thru 1970s vacuum tube audio amplifiers and radios.

==
Greg, W9GB


Re: All bent out of shape (3-500z) - now shock sensor value question

 

Of course I know that it is a triode. No shorts were measured. But this tube makes noises that a good tube does not make. I would not trust it as far as I could throw the amp it was in.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 06:15:13 -0600
"David" <david.w5xu@...> wrote:

Remember this is a triode. There is roughly a 1/2 inch separation between
the inside face of the plate cylinder and the grid. There is a tiny
distance between the grid and the filament and that is where most of the
shorts develope.
So if the grid/ filament is shorted (you can measure this with an
ohmmeter) the tube is likely not salvageable. These are the ones you make
lamps out of.

Bumping the plate structure does little movement to the grid. You would
think that with a +- $300 each you would get a better deal. Too bad as
when they are good and in service barring abuse they last a good while.

David Assaf III
W5XU VP8RXU

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024, 11:52 PM Jim Shorney <jimNU0C@...> wrote:


Not even going to try with the one I found. While I don't see anything
rolling around inside the envelope, I do definitely hear mechanical noises
from inside the plate structure when the tube is rotated or gently shaken.
I would not trust it even if I could get the plate straight.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 22:13:54 -0600 (CST)
"Gary Follett" <xntrick1948@...> wrote:

The Eimac 3-500Z is one of the most fragile tubes in existence in terms
of the plate support structure. However, you CAN repair a bent 3-500Z by
banging it against a firm, but not hard surface just hard enough to swing
the plate back into the desired neutral centered position. I have done this
dozens of times with great results. Best to do the tapping below the
centerline of the plate relative to the base.

Gary

W0DVN

On 02/13/2024 10:31 AM CST Joe - W7RKN <w7rkn.7@...> wrote:



Sorry Jim¡­.The courts have ruled otherwise. You are buying a specific
amount of ¡®bulk¡¯ insurance, say $500.00¡­that is what you are entitled to if
there is a loss. If the item shipped was valued at, say, $354.95 and you
bought insurance for $354.95, then *that* is what you would receive in a
loss.



Joe - W7RKN



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Jim VE7RF
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] All bent out of shape (3-500z) - now shock
sensor value question



On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 01:57 AM, Joe - W7RKN wrote:

<When we purchase shipping insurance through whomever, they will
always tell you to submit an invoice for the product loss. I tell them,
nuts to you¡­I paid for 500 dollars of insurance, cut me a check for 500
dollars. I took UPS to court on <this a number of years ago and won. Just
an FYI!

## You can't insure it for more than it's worth.









--

73

-Jim
NU0C










--

73

-Jim
NU0C


Re: All bent out of shape (3-500z) - now shock sensor value question

 

Remember this is a triode.? There is roughly a 1/2 inch separation between the inside face of the plate cylinder and the grid.? There is a tiny distance between the grid and the filament and that is where most of the shorts develope.
So if the grid/ filament is shorted (you can measure this with an ohmmeter)? the tube is likely not salvageable.? These are the ones you make lamps out of.
??
Bumping the plate structure does little movement to the grid.? You would think that with a +- $300 each you would get a better deal.? Too bad as when they are good and in service barring abuse they last a good while.

David Assaf III
W5XU??? VP8RXU

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024, 11:52 PM Jim Shorney <jimNU0C@...> wrote:

Not even going to try with the one I found. While I don't see anything rolling around inside the envelope, I do definitely hear mechanical noises from inside the plate structure when the tube is rotated or gently shaken. I would not trust it even if I could get the plate straight.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 22:13:54 -0600 (CST)
"Gary Follett" <xntrick1948@...> wrote:

> The Eimac 3-500Z is one of the most fragile tubes in existence in terms of the plate support structure. However, you CAN repair a bent 3-500Z by banging it against a firm,? but not hard surface just hard enough to swing the plate back into the desired neutral centered position. I have done this dozens of times with great results. Best to do the tapping below the centerline of the plate relative to the base.
>?
> Gary
>?
> W0DVN
>
> > On 02/13/2024 10:31 AM CST Joe - W7RKN <w7rkn.7@...> wrote:
> >?
> >?
> >
> > Sorry Jim¡­.The courts have ruled otherwise.? You are buying a specific amount of ¡®bulk¡¯ insurance, say $500.00¡­that is what you are entitled to if there is a loss.? If the item shipped was valued at, say, $354.95 and you bought insurance for $354.95, then *that* is what you would receive in a loss.
> >
> >?
> >
> > Joe - W7RKN
> >
> >?
> >
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim VE7RF
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:13 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] All bent out of shape (3-500z) - now shock sensor value question
> >
> >?
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 01:57 AM, Joe - W7RKN wrote:
> >
> > <When we purchase shipping insurance through whomever, they will always tell you to submit an invoice for the product loss.? I tell them, nuts to you¡­I paid for 500 dollars of insurance, cut me a check for 500 dollars.? I took UPS to court on <this a number of years ago and won.? Just an FYI!
> >
> > ##? You can't insure it for more than it's worth.
> >
> >?
> >
> >
> >? ?
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>



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73

-Jim
NU0C






Drake PS7 Filtercap. Spec.

 

Hello
?
I am interested in a data sheet for the 2 pcs. 15000 MFD electrolytic capacitors in the PS7 power supply.
Mallory Type CGR.
318-0356
235-8118G.
Is someone able to help ?
?
Thanks in advance.
?
Br.
Bent
OZ5ZD


Re: All bent out of shape (3-500z) - now shock sensor value question

 

Not even going to try with the one I found. While I don't see anything rolling around inside the envelope, I do definitely hear mechanical noises from inside the plate structure when the tube is rotated or gently shaken. I would not trust it even if I could get the plate straight.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 22:13:54 -0600 (CST)
"Gary Follett" <xntrick1948@...> wrote:

The Eimac 3-500Z is one of the most fragile tubes in existence in terms of the plate support structure. However, you CAN repair a bent 3-500Z by banging it against a firm, but not hard surface just hard enough to swing the plate back into the desired neutral centered position. I have done this dozens of times with great results. Best to do the tapping below the centerline of the plate relative to the base.

Gary

W0DVN

On 02/13/2024 10:31 AM CST Joe - W7RKN <w7rkn.7@...> wrote:



Sorry Jim¡­.The courts have ruled otherwise. You are buying a specific amount of ¡®bulk¡¯ insurance, say $500.00¡­that is what you are entitled to if there is a loss. If the item shipped was valued at, say, $354.95 and you bought insurance for $354.95, then *that* is what you would receive in a loss.



Joe - W7RKN



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim VE7RF
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] All bent out of shape (3-500z) - now shock sensor value question



On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 01:57 AM, Joe - W7RKN wrote:

<When we purchase shipping insurance through whomever, they will always tell you to submit an invoice for the product loss. I tell them, nuts to you¡­I paid for 500 dollars of insurance, cut me a check for 500 dollars. I took UPS to court on <this a number of years ago and won. Just an FYI!

## You can't insure it for more than it's worth.









--

73

-Jim
NU0C


Re: All bent out of shape (3-500z) - now shock sensor value question

 

The Eimac 3-500Z is one of the most fragile tubes in existence in terms of the plate support structure. However, you CAN repair a bent 3-500Z by banging it against a firm, ?but not hard surface just hard enough to swing the plate back into the desired neutral centered position. I have done this dozens of times with great results. Best to do the tapping below the centerline of the plate relative to the base.
?
Gary
?
W0DVN

On 02/13/2024 10:31 AM CST Joe - W7RKN <w7rkn.7@...> wrote:
?
?

Sorry Jim¡­.The courts have ruled otherwise.? You are buying a specific amount of ¡®bulk¡¯ insurance, say $500.00¡­that is what you are entitled to if there is a loss.? If the item shipped was valued at, say, $354.95 and you bought insurance for $354.95, then *that* is what you would receive in a loss.

?

Joe - W7RKN

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim VE7RF
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] All bent out of shape (3-500z) - now shock sensor value question

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On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 01:57 AM, Joe - W7RKN wrote:

<When we purchase shipping insurance through whomever, they will always tell you to submit an invoice for the product loss.? I tell them, nuts to you¡­I paid for 500 dollars of insurance, cut me a check for 500 dollars.? I took UPS to court on <this a number of years ago and won.? Just an FYI!

##? You can't insure it for more than it's worth.?

?


Re: All bent out of shape (3-500z) - now shock sensor value question

 

Joe
Thanks for the reply. I'm going to pick up some 25 and 50g units through Amazon - I don't ship radios much, but the shock sensors seem like an excellent item to have on hand.

Even though I did not have the shock sensors on hand I mailed off the ICOM 706 today to Clairmont Skyland in Gainesville, GA. for repair:? Radio packed in original box with original foam and cardboard supports, original box then surrounded by 1 1/2 inches of hard foam on the sides and 1/2 inch of hard foam top and bottom, inside a second double walled cardboard shipping box securely taped - sent signature required, insured for replacement value and blatantly marked FRAGILE.

It SHOULD make it OK, but as the country song lyrics go: "Man, you just never know...."

- Steve? W7SJT

"Always look for a positive solution then Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome"

- Adaptation of the U.S. Marine Corps motto

"There are no rules here!...We're trying to accomplish something!!"

- Thomas Edison

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal.? It is the courage to continue that counts."

-?Winston Churchill




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On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 05:57:16 PM MST, Joe - W7RKN <w7rkn.7@...> wrote:


I use 25g or 50g rated sensors, depending on the weight and value of the package.

?

These are the most inexpensive, each, but shipping adds to the cost.

?

Amazon has ShockWatch¡­.very expensive.

?

As does Grainger:

Also expensive..

?

However, they are cheap if they save your shipped product!

One more thing, while I am at it:

?

When we purchase shipping insurance through whomever, they will always tell you to submit an invoice for the product loss.? I tell them, nuts to you¡­I paid for 500 dollars of insurance, cut me a check for 500 dollars.? I took UPS to court on this a number of years ago and won.? Just an FYI!

?

Joe ¨C W7RKN

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Toth via groups.io
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] All bent out of shape (3-500z) - now shock sensor value question

?

This may be a dumb question, but what is a "typical common sense" value of shock sensor to use when shipping radio equipment?? I have to ship my ICOM 706MKiiG in for repair.

?

Thanks.

?

- Steve? W7SJT

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Re: FS -- Eimac 3-500Z's (2)

 

And they are SOLD.

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow.? Fruit flies like a banana.

Sent with secure email.

On Tuesday, February 13th, 2024 at 3:55 PM, Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 via groups.io <w1es@...> wrote:

Thanks to all for the interest!? The tubes are pending.

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow.? Fruit flies like a banana.

Sent with secure email.

On Monday, February 12th, 2024 at 2:27 PM, Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 <w1es@...> wrote:
In light of the discussion regarding the shipment of transmitting tubes vs the apes at the shipping companies, I have a pair of Eimac 3-500Z's available for pickup only in the Greensboro/Raleigh-Durham area.? I had these in my L7 recently and wanted to make sure that they were good before offering them.? I had no trouble getting over a kW out of them in my L7.

I don't need two sets of tubes, so I'm offering these at $250 for the pair.? I will meet you within 50 miles or so of my home QTH in Graham, NC.

73,

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow.? Fruit flies like a banana.

Sent with secure email.



Re: FS -- Eimac 3-500Z's (2)

 

Thanks to all for the interest!? The tubes are pending.

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow.? Fruit flies like a banana.

Sent with secure email.

On Monday, February 12th, 2024 at 2:27 PM, Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 <w1es@...> wrote:

In light of the discussion regarding the shipment of transmitting tubes vs the apes at the shipping companies, I have a pair of Eimac 3-500Z's available for pickup only in the Greensboro/Raleigh-Durham area.? I had these in my L7 recently and wanted to make sure that they were good before offering them.? I had no trouble getting over a kW out of them in my L7.

I don't need two sets of tubes, so I'm offering these at $250 for the pair.? I will meet you within 50 miles or so of my home QTH in Graham, NC.

73,

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Time flies like an arrow.? Fruit flies like a banana.

Sent with secure email.


Re: Another TR7 Journey begins

 

I think I'm going to do a complete alignment on this rig, throwing ideas at it may cause more harm then good.? Hopefully I can borrow a frequency counter from someone in my club becaue I doubt the counter in my MFJ 259B analyzer is accurate enough LOL.

73, Bill NZ0T


Re: All bent out of shape (3-500z) - now shock sensor value question

 

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Sorry Jim¡­.The courts have ruled otherwise.? You are buying a specific amount of ¡®bulk¡¯ insurance, say $500.00¡­that is what you are entitled to if there is a loss.? If the item shipped was valued at, say, $354.95 and you bought insurance for $354.95, then *that* is what you would receive in a loss.

?

Joe - W7RKN

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim VE7RF
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] All bent out of shape (3-500z) - now shock sensor value question

?

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 01:57 AM, Joe - W7RKN wrote:

<When we purchase shipping insurance through whomever, they will always tell you to submit an invoice for the product loss.? I tell them, nuts to you¡­I paid for 500 dollars of insurance, cut me a check for 500 dollars.? I took UPS to court on <this a number of years ago and won.? Just an FYI!

##? You can't insure it for more than it's worth.?


RV75 Issues: Part 4

 

Progress on repairing my RV75 has come to a halt. In attempting to perform the alignment procedure in the Operator¡¯s Manual, I have discovered that the VCXO is not oscillating. The VCXO is a voltage controlled crystal oscillator which uses a varactor diode to ¡°pull¡± a 15.5 MHz crystal oscillator frequency to provide fine tuning for the PLL. Without the signal from this oscillator the PLL will not lock and stabilize the RV75 output frequency.

The VCXO circuitry is somewhat complex and is implemented entirely with discrete components including several semiconductors, a 15.5 MHz crystal, a varactor diode, three variable inductors, and numerous resistors and axial lead ceramic capacitors of the type that were found failed elsewhere on the RF & Analog board. I have visually inspected this circuit under a magnifier and have checked several voltages but have so far not been able to identify a reason why the VCXO is not working. Given the number of components involved and without any clear indication of a component failure, it makes no sense to me to start replacing components, some of which may be available only by salvaging from another RV75 RF & Analog board.

My best current idea for a fix is to send the RV75 off to someone who knows this device far better than I do; apparently wishful thinking on my part as I have been unable to identify someone who both fits this description and is willing to take on this repair. So, for now I will put the RV75 back on the shelf while I turn my attention to other projects and give some background thought to how best to proceed. This is disappointing in that this RV75 is in excellent cosmetic condition, and I have been able to verify that it is apparently working as it should otherwise.

I am still interested in purchasing RV75 repair parts, including a working RF & Analog board, VCXO crystal, VCXO variable inductors, etc. should someone on this forum have these available.

Interesting footnote: An RV75 has been listed on eBay over the last few days for an auction sale, with the auction ending last night. This unit was described as ¡°not working, for parts or repair¡± and appeared to be in very rough cosmetic condition in the single photo posted. I decided to monitor the bidding on this item for the last five minutes of the auction. When I tuned in there were about seven bids, with the highest at $150. From prior experience on eBay I knew that the real bidding excitement would likely come in the last few seconds of the auction. I wasn¡¯t disappointed. In the last three seconds, two bids were posted, one at $450, and the final bid at $477. Madness!

Rick

K8EZB

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Re: All bent out of shape (3-500z) - now shock sensor value question

 

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 01:57 AM, Joe - W7RKN wrote:
<When we purchase shipping insurance through whomever, they will always tell you to submit an invoice for the product loss.? I tell them, nuts to you¡­I paid for 500 dollars of insurance, cut me a check for 500 dollars.? I took UPS to court on <this a number of years ago and won.? Just an FYI!
##? You can't insure it for more than it's worth.?


Re: All bent out of shape (3-500z) - now shock sensor value question

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

I use 25g or 50g rated sensors, depending on the weight and value of the package.

?

These are the most inexpensive, each, but shipping adds to the cost.

?

Amazon has ShockWatch¡­.very expensive.

?

As does Grainger:

Also expensive..

?

However, they are cheap if they save your shipped product!

One more thing, while I am at it:

?

When we purchase shipping insurance through whomever, they will always tell you to submit an invoice for the product loss.? I tell them, nuts to you¡­I paid for 500 dollars of insurance, cut me a check for 500 dollars.? I took UPS to court on this a number of years ago and won.? Just an FYI!

?

Joe ¨C W7RKN

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Toth via groups.io
Subject: Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] All bent out of shape (3-500z) - now shock sensor value question

?

This may be a dumb question, but what is a "typical common sense" value of shock sensor to use when shipping radio equipment?? I have to ship my ICOM 706MKiiG in for repair.

?

Thanks.

?

- Steve? W7SJT

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