Central States VHF Society Conference, Elk Grove Village, IL, 7/26-28
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From: Kermit Carlson
To: Kermit Carlson W9XA
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:27 PM
Subject: [frrl] 2013 Central States VHF Society Conference July 26-28
Greetings !
??? ??? The 2013 Central States VHF Society Conference
committee invites you to a full weekend of VHF/UHF activity the weekend of? July 26th-through-July 28th.? This 47th? Annual Conference is being held at the Elk Grove Village? Holiday Inn at 1000 Busse Rd located at the South-West? corner Route 83 and Landwehr Road in Elk Grove Village. ??? ??? The
activities begin Friday morning at 9AM with antenna range gain measurements and
pre-amp noise figure measurement contests. Technical Programs are held Friday afternoon and all day Saturday. The detailed Agenda and full information ?can be found at; http://www.csvhfs.org/2013conference/index.html???? ??? ??? The Society is fortunate to be able to welcome noted VHF/UHF and 10 Ghz enthusiast Mr Dave Sumner K1ZZ,
Chief Executive Officer of the ARRL? to this year's
conference as our Keynote Speaker.? Please plan to attend
Saturday's Banquet when
you sign-up for the Conference.?
Registrations for the Banquet will close on Thursday the 18th of July so please take time now to? reserve? your dinner selection;
http://www.csvhfs.org/2013conference/2013Registration.html ????????
The Forum Speakers and Topics for the 2013 Central States VHF Society Conference - Chicago/Elk Grove Village? will include; ?????
James Kennedy, K6MIO(/KH6)
??? Worldwide Es Propagation on 27-29 June 2012
Kent Britain, WA5VJB
??? Unusual Antennas for Unusual Applications
James Froemke, K0MHC
??? Where have all the ROVERS gone? Ed Krome, K9EK
?? Building and Testing VHF/UHF Power Amps based on the
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Freescale LD-MOS Modules? James Kennedy, K6MIO(/KH6)
??? Solar Cycle Update
Wayne Overbeck, N6NB
?? Building a Tower Trailer for Roving (and Why!)
? Jon Platt, W0ZQ
??? Gitchi Gami and the 2012 ARRL 10 GHz Contest
Terry Price, W8ZN
??? 1.5 kW Larcan 222 MHz Amplifier
?Keith Pugh, W5IU
??? AMSAT and ARISS Update 2013
?Al Ward, W5LUA
??? Working Small Stations on 10 and 24 GHz EME with help of
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WSJT
Gerald Johnson, K0CQ
??? Multiple "mini"-topics (Antenna Modeling, Test "Tricks" to
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better your GHz signal, Soldering)
?Central States VHF?
Society Sponsored Activities and Awards -
This will be s moderated session that will recognize the
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2012-2013 States Above 50 MHz results, Reverse VUCC and the
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2013 VHF & Up Spring Sprints. This session will extend into a
? discussion of the Future of the Spring VHF & Up Sprints.
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???????? We look forward to seeing you at the Conference !
?????????????????????????????????? 73, Kermit Carlson W9XA
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Re: Icom Discontinues ID-1 in UK
I assume ETCC is a coordination body. One of the issues we have in the states is that Icom calling them Data Repeaters doesn't actually make them repeaters (defined as simultaneous transmit and receive). Technically, they're access points and only require a single frequency.
Most repeater coordination bodies will only coordinate actual repeaters using frequency pairs. The FCC rules specifically allow for only coordination of repeaters and auxiliary stations. This has been fine historically because packet digipeaters need to be on the same frequency as the rest of the network so need no protection from interference.
Without FCC authority to "coordinate" these access points, we still have the ability to "register" them. This allows them to be published in the ARRL directory and be organized locally to minimize the interference potential.
I don't know of many coordination bodies who have taken any steps to address coordination of these systems. Some may just go along with the repeater nomenclature and ignore the technical design.
I was never sure what the issue was with our group. There seemed to be some anti-DSTAR sentiment that could have just been resistance to anything new. It could also have been that this would require they actually had to do something with the 23cm band if these systems became popular. My solution was to become the 23cm band chair for the group and push these issues from the inside. It may be the only solution.
Scott N7SS
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Since posting this I have received communication from a member of ETCC saying that I was being unfair on them in my communication, so I feel I need to clarify, the response I received said that I quoted them as not caring about 23cms and as such offended them in the work that they do.
I am told that the primary user does not respond to the ETCC or the regulator, which confirms one of my comments "have no say" and not the second one which said "They have no inclination"..
I have no doubt that the ETCC are working in the background, what is evident to me (my personal opinion, which I am entitled to) that the ETCC are not very good at keeping those of us with an interest, up to date with whats happening, last minutes on the website Sept 12th 2012.
Previous communications I had said "that any application would be rejected if submitted". it's this defeatist attitude i'm referring to, Instead of " Submit it and we will do all that we can to progress this", Which is what i'd expect from a section of the organisation representing my interests in the hobby.
Hope this clarifies the situation.
DAVE
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Re: Icom Discontinues ID-1 in UK
Since posting this I have received communication from a member of ETCC saying that I was being unfair on them in my communication, so I feel I need to clarify, the response I received said that I quoted them as not caring about 23cms and as such offended them in the work that they do.
I am told that the primary user does not respond to the ETCC or the regulator, which confirms one of my comments "have no say" and not the second one which said "They have no inclination"..
I have no doubt that the ETCC are working in the background, what is evident to me (my personal opinion, which I am entitled to) that the ETCC are not very good at keeping those of us with an interest, up to date with whats happening, last minutes on the website Sept 12th 2012.
Previous communications I had said "that any application would be rejected if submitted". it's this defeatist attitude i'm referring to, Instead of " Submit it and we will do all that we can to progress this", Which is what i'd expect from a section of the organisation representing my interests in the hobby.
Hope this clarifies the situation.
DAVE
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I?€?m not surprised (knowing that even though the frequencies for data have been agreed and shown in the band plans) as there appears to be no possibility to get any repeaters through NOV clearance, I have been looking for several years to get two Data repeaters licenced for general use.
ETCC seem to be negative in their approach to this in the UK and as the body representing us, I feel that they have either no say or no inclination to push forward on this.
Every time I ask i'm hearing them blame the primary user.
So either we will be unique in our area at some stage or I have some now rather useless equipment on my hands.
Dave (MW0RUH)
From: radiohamuser
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 12:35 PM
To: D-STAR_23cm@...
Subject: [D-STAR_23cm] Icom Discontinues ID-1 in UK
Moderators Note:
I checked with Icom America and learned that the ID-1 is, in fact, being discontinued in the UK, but not in the USA.
However, the ID-1 price has apparently been reduced in the USA and is now backordered.
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Icom announces the discontinuation of production of the ID-1. Is also said to be stop the production of the 23cm voice and data repeater. All this devices are still sold until end of the stock.
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Re: Icom Discontinues ID-1 in UK
I called Icom America Support and Sales and they had no Idea what was mentioned of discontinuing production of the ID-1's Sales people told me they have the radios on backorder. They had no indication of a production shutdown.
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Moderators Note:
I checked with Icom America and learned that the ID-1 is, in fact, being discontinued in the UK, but not in the USA.
However, the ID-1 price has apparently been reduced in the USA and is now backordered.
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Icom announces the discontinuation of production of the ID-1. Is also said to be stop the production of the 23cm voice and data repeater. All this devices are still sold until end of the stock.
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Re: Icom Discontinues ID-1 in UK
I¡¯m not surprised (knowing that even though the frequencies for data have
been agreed and shown in the band plans) as there appears to be no possibility
to get any repeaters through NOV clearance, I have been looking for several
years to get two Data repeaters licenced for general? use.
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ETCC seem to be negative in their approach to this in the UK and as the
body representing us, I feel that they have either no say or no inclination to
push forward on this.
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Every time I ask i¡¯m hearing them blame the primary user.
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So either we will be unique in our area at some stage or I have some now
rather useless equipment on my hands.
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Dave (MW0RUH)
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Subject: [D-STAR_23cm] Icom Discontinues ID-1 in
UK
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Moderators Note:
I checked with Icom America and learned that the ID-1
is, in fact, being discontinued in the UK, but not in the USA.
However,
the ID-1 price has apparently been reduced in the USA and is now backordered.
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Icom
announces the discontinuation of production of the ID-1. Is also said to be stop
the production of the 23cm voice and data repeater. All this devices are still
sold until end of the stock.
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Icom Discontinues ID-1 in UK
Moderators Note:
I checked with Icom America and learned that the ID-1 is, in fact, being discontinued in the UK, but not in the USA.
However, the ID-1 price has apparently been reduced in the USA and is now backordered.
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Icom announces the discontinuation of production of the ID-1. Is also said to be stop the production of the 23cm voice and data repeater. All this devices are still sold until end of the stock.
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File - D-STAR 23cm Monthly Announcement.txt
D-STAR 23cm Ops -
Thanks for participating in the D-STAR 23cm group.
If you're using or experimenting with D-STAR on 23m currently let the group know how you're using D-STAR
by sending a message to the group, adding a Link in the Links area and/or Uploading a File to the Files area.
Messages & articles about how you currently or plan to use the high-speed data capability would be of particualar interest to group memebers.
By the way, there are already dozens of messages in the group's message log and
numerous files & links in the Files & Links areas about all aspects of D-STAR.
Please also let other D-STAR users, including those don't yet use D-STAR on 23cm, who aren't members of the group know about the group.
D-STAR 23cm Group
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If interested reply off-list to sender not me.
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File - D-STAR 23cm Monthly Announcement.txt
D-STAR 23cm Ops -
Thanks for participating in the D-STAR 23cm group.
If you're using or experimenting with D-STAR on 23m currently let the group know how you're using D-STAR
by sending a message to the group, adding a Link in the Links area and/or Uploading a File to the Files area.
Messages & articles about how you currently or plan to use the high-speed data capability would be of particualar interest to group memebers.
By the way, there are already dozens of messages in the group's message log and
numerous files & links in the Files & Links areas about all aspects of D-STAR.
Please also let other D-STAR users, including those don't yet use D-STAR on 23cm, who aren't members of the group know about the group.
D-STAR 23cm Group
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Description : ID-1 USB Driver Installation Guide for Windows Vista PC
You can access this file at the URL:
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Dayton Kids D-STAR Reflector for Hamvention
First In Communications Icom America Inc. 2380 116th Avenue NE Bellevue, WA 98004 Tele: 425-454-8155 Fax: 425-454-1509
NOTE: The following statement was originally released by?the? Texas Interconnect Team (K5TIT). http://www.k5tit.org/
Texas Interconnect Team Announces Dayton Kids Reflector?for Dayton Hamvention? 2013
CQ D-STAR, CQ D-STAR ¨C The Texas Interconnect Team (K5TIT) announces? that for the Dayton Hamvention? weekend, REF033B will officially be the Dayton Kids Reflector.? Megan McClellan, K5MEM, will spearhead the project from the Youth Booth? starting Friday morning and continuing during show hours on Saturday and Sunday.
The objective is to give the young future hams an
opportunity to experience the fun and excitement of talking with someone in a far-away place, using the magic of Amateur?Radio.? The participants in the Youth area will have access to handheld radios and?a DVAP,? and will operate under the supervision of an experienced Control Operator.
To participate and help show the wonders of Amateur Radio, connect your? DVDongle,?DVAP, Hot Spot, or D-STAR Gateway to REF033B during event hours Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.? If nobody is talking, give them a call - somebody has to call CQ!
Event hours are (in EDT): ? Friday: 9:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. ? Saturday: 9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. ? Sunday: 9:00 a.m. - 12:00 Noon
Join the fun! See you on the air...
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Icom America Inc. The Icom logo is a registered trademark of Icom Inc.? All other trademarks remain the property of their?respective owners. 10420
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D-STAR at Dayton Hamvention
Here's the updated list of D-STAR activities at Dayton Hamvention?, please send any updates to info@.... All items are subject to change. Please check for the latest information.
Schedule of D-STAR Events
Thursday, May 16th
7:00PM ¨C
Marion's Piazza 1320 N Fairfield Rd, Beavercreek, OH 45432 (39:43.596N 084:03.192W) (937) 429-3393
Friday, May 17th
8:00AM ¨C (), Drury Inn Ballroom
A three hour class for beginning and more experienced D-STAR users to help you get started and get the most from your D-STAR radio. An Icom ID-31A will be given away to one lucky class participant during the class.
12:45PM ¨C , Forum Room 1 Hara Arena
Moderator: Robin Cutshaw, AA4RC
Speakers: John Davis, WB4QDX, Brian Hoyer, K7UDR, John Hays, K7VE, Robin Cutshaw, AA4RC
D-STAR continues to grow in popularity with over one thousand interconnected gateways and over twenty-five thousand registered users. The last year has seen new hardware and software offerings that continue to expand the capabilities of this already feature rich protocol. The speakers for this forum will review the things you might have missed in the last year and announce some exciting new hardware and software.
7:00PM ¨C Friday Night D-STAR
Drury Inn Ballroom, 6616 Miller Lane, Dayton, OH 45414
Exciting list of speakers . Opportunity to speak to other D-STAR enthusiasts . Icom ID-51A to be given away .
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D-STAR at Dayton Hamvention
Please distribute widely
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Here¡¯s the updated list of activities that we know about the Dayton Hamvention?, please send any updates to
info@...
All items are subject to change. Please check for the latest information.
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Schedule of Events
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Thursday, May 16th
7:00PM ¨C
Marion¡¯s Piazza 1320 N Fairfield Rd, Beavercreek, OH 45432 (39:43.596N 084:03.192W) (937) 429-3393
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Friday, May 17th
8:00AM ¨C ()
Drury Inn Ballroom
A three hour class for beginning and more experienced D-STAR users to help you get started and get the most from your D-STAR radio. An Icom ID-31A will be given away to one lucky class participant during the class.
12:45PM ¨C
Forum Room 1 Hara Arena
Moderator: Robin Cutshaw, AA4RC
Speakers: John Davis, WB4QDX, Brian Hoyer, K7UDR, John Hays, K7VE, Robin Cutshaw, AA4RC
D-STAR continues to grow in popularity with over one thousand interconnected gateways and over twenty-five thousand registered users. The last year has seen new hardware and software offerings that continue to
expand the capabilities of this already feature rich protocol. The speakers for this forum will review the things you might have missed in the last year and announce some exciting new hardware and software.
7:00PM ¨C Friday Night D-STAR
Drury Inn Ballroom, 6616 Miller Lane, Dayton, OH 45414
Exciting list of speakers
Opportunity to speak to other D-STAR enthusiasts
Icom ID-51A to be given away
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D-STAR booths at the Hamvention?
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Bird Technologies Group / TX RX Systems
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BA0413 BA0414
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ICOM America, Inc.
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HA0008 HA0009 HA0010 HA0033 HA0034 HA0035 HA0036 HA0037
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Internet Labs, Inc.
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HA0029
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RT Systems
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NH0246
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NW Digital Radio
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EH0515
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Local Dayton Repeaters
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City
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C Module
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B Module
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Comments
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Dayton
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147.1050 +0.6000
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443.0500 +5.0000
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Excellent handheld coverage at HARA and all of Dayton
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Dayton
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145.2700 -0.6000
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444.0875 +5.0000
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(In northeast suburb of Huber Heights)
Recommend high power with hand held outdoors at Hamvention? HARA Arena.
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Dayton Hamvention? Reflector REF038C and XRF038C
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The Dayton D-STAR gateway will be linked to D-Extra X-Reflector XRF038C during Hamvention weekend. D-Plus REF038C will also be available for the weekend. Both compliments of the Northern Ohio Digital Interconnect Group (NODIG).
Use 446.1000 Digital Code Squelch CSQL use #13 as a D-STAR simplex frequency at Hamvention?.
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File - D-STAR 23cm Monthly Announcement.txt
D-STAR 23cm Ops -
Thanks for participating in the D-STAR 23cm group.
If you're using or experimenting with D-STAR on 23m currently let the group know how you're using D-STAR
by sending a message to the group, adding a Link in the Links area and/or Uploading a File to the Files area.
Messages & articles about how you currently or plan to use the high-speed data capability would be of particualar interest to group memebers.
By the way, there are already dozens of messages in the group's message log and
numerous files & links in the Files & Links areas about all aspects of D-STAR.
Please also let other D-STAR users, including those don't yet use D-STAR on 23cm, who aren't members of the group know about the group.
D-STAR 23cm Group
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ID-31A to be given away during Dayton D-STAR Class
If you¡¯ve registered for the D-STAR training at the Drury Inn Ballroom in Dayton during Hamvention on Friday, May 17th, from 8:00am until 11:00am, you already have a chance to win an Icom ID-31A handheld radio to be given away
during the class.? There is still time to register for this comprehensive D-STAR class, but seats are filling up fast.
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This training will provide the basics for new D-STAR users guiding them through the callsign registration process, getting on the air. easy programming
of your D-STAR radio including the ID-31A and ID-51A radios, and get the most out of handhelds or mobiles.?
More experienced users will benefit from topics including the DV Dongle, DV Access Point, making a hotspot with a Raspberry Pi, D-STAR nets, using D-STAR's high and low speed
data features including the ID-1 radio, and where to find D-STAR resources to get the most out of D-STAR. ?
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Class size is limited and pre-registration is required.? The cost of the class is $15.00 and all attendees will receive all course materials and a chance to win the Icom ID-31A.?
To register and pay class fee by PayPal, go to .
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For more info, email
info@...
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Re: ID-1 on 32 bit Windows 7
I am the one who posted the link back to Dean's post.
This thread had stopped without any positive answer and I felt this would help others searching for a solution.
The current driver file that you download from the FTDI site states it is for both 32 and 64 bit Windows 7.
The hard part for me was actually installing the drivers correctly and Dean explained that perfectly.
Did you try it? You don't state if it worked for you or not.
Rex, AJ4GC
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I didn't say that. I said the quoted link to my site was broken. I
have no idea what works (or not) on 32-bit Windows 7.
On 2013-04-19 08:24, James wrote:
Are you saying this link successfully installs the drivers for 32 bit Win 7? That was what the original posting was about.
James, N0XIA
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On 2013-04-13 10:54, twocats667 wrote:
Since I also had this problem I figured I should post where I found the answer. Do a search for message 803 and follow the instructions carefully. After fighting with this for two weeks it is now working fine.
Rex AJ4GC My web page has moved, and as a result, the link is broken. Here is the
new link:
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Re: ID-1 on 32 bit Windows 7
I didn't say that. I said the quoted link to my site was broken. I have no idea what works (or not) on 32-bit Windows 7.
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On 2013-04-19 08:24, James wrote: Are you saying this link successfully installs the drivers for 32 bit Win 7? That was what the original posting was about.
James, N0XIA
--- In D-STAR_23cm@..., Dean Gibson AE7Q <yahoo@...> wrote:
On 2013-04-13 10:54, twocats667 wrote:
Since I also had this problem I figured I should post where I found the answer. Do a search for message 803 and follow the instructions carefully. After fighting with this for two weeks it is now working fine.
Rex AJ4GC My web page has moved, and as a result, the link is broken. Here is the
new link:
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Re: ID-1 on 32 bit Windows 7
Are you saying this link successfully installs the drivers for 32 bit Win 7? That was what the original posting was about.
James, N0XIA
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--- In D-STAR_23cm@..., Dean Gibson AE7Q <yahoo@...> wrote:
On 2013-04-13 10:54, twocats667 wrote:
Since I also had this problem I figured I should post where I found the answer. Do a search for message 803 and follow the instructions carefully. After fighting with this for two weeks it is now working fine.
Rex AJ4GC My web page has moved, and as a result, the link is broken. Here is the
new link:
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D-STAR Training Available at Dayton 2013
DSTARinfo.com and the Georgia D-STAR group will again conduct training for beginning and intermediate D-STAR users during Dayton Hamvention 2013.? The three hour class will be held at the Drury Inn Ballroom, conveniently located in the Hamvention hotel area at 6616 Miller Lane.? The class will begin promptly at 8:00am.
This training will provide the basics for new D-STAR users guiding them through the registration process, getting on the air and get the most out of handhelds or mobiles.? More experienced users will benefit from topics including the DV Dongle, DV Access Point, making a hotspot with a Raspberry Pi, D-STAR nets, using D-STAR's high and low speed data features including the ID-1 radio, and where to find D-STAR resources to get the most out of D-STAR. ?
Class size is limited and pre-registration is required.? The cost of the class is $15.00 and all attendees will receive all course materials.? To register and pay class fee by PayPal, go to . For more info, email info@....
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Re: ID-1 on 32 bit Windows 7
On 2013-04-13 10:54, twocats667 wrote: Since I also had this problem I figured I should post where I found the answer. Do a search for message 803 and follow the instructions carefully. After fighting with this for two weeks it is now working fine.
Rex AJ4GC My web page has moved, and as a result, the link is broken. Here is the new link:
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