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Re: Looking for info on using two ID-1 radios as a relay set up


Tom Azlin N4ZPT
 

Forgot to add an important point.

The second set of ID-1s must be on a different frequency than the gateway. Otherwise they interfere with each other and cut the bandwidth way down. Do not remember if the second pair of ID-1s also have to be set to RPS but I think so. Would have to go set up and test. We have another wiki on the bridge set up but see we did not say if RPS or not.

73, tom n4zpt

Hi Paul,

Yes they can, in fact myself and several others have done this at the Marine Corps Marathon where we use ID-1s to support the aid stations that are beyond (around a corner) from the gateway over at the finish line. works really well. Have had this capability since the ID-1 first came out.

Here is the wiki notes we wrote when we figured out how to do this:


(probably not good name).

Or go to ncrdstar.org, then to the wiki link on the left, then to tech notes, then find our bent-pipe page (not a bent pipe I know so no comments on that please.)

We do not use a cross over cable as we drop service at the relay service, rather a small 5 port auto sensing switch at the relay point. Simply connect the two ID-1s at the relay point to the switch directly. the first ID-1 is programmed to work with the distant access point and plugs into the switch. We used 5 port gigabit switches as they ran on 12Vdc and let us drop service to two laptops at the first location. the second Id-1 is programmed to pair it with the ID-1 at the distant aid station where it also connects to a small switch to support two laptops. We use fixed ip addresses all around. Result is all four of our laptops at the two locations get service from the gateway. shared bandwidth of course but the application we use has been optimized for be low bandwidth.

Bunch of us bought several ID-1s when this first came out to make this
possible. One volunteer made a nice little chassis with both ID-1s,
their control heads, and the network switch.

73, tom n4zpt

On 7/27/2011 11:37 PM, kj4g wrote:
I have heard that two ID-1 radios can be configured to act as a relay of DD from a DD module thru the relay to a end user who is out of range of the DD module.
I have heard that a crossover cable or a switch between the two radios would be required. I understand the radio used for connecting to the DD module is programed as tho it was the original user and the radio setup for the end user is programed with mycall and cqcqcq only, no rpt1 or rpt2.
In an experiment, we programed into radio 1 the DD module freq of 1253.000 DD RPS. For the relay radio, we used 1297.000 (no RPS) for the freq separation of 44 Mcs.
If you have any references or information please let us know. We are having problems getting this system to work.
Thank you
Paul, KJ4G[at]arrl.org

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