Mark, I understand that.
I just have noticed a lot of interest in the high-speed data part since all the other D-Star radios lack that part. So I tend to think that is the major selling part of it. (For instance; the 1.2 GHz DD at Wausau and Milwaukee were the first parts deployed I believe)
I just think there might be a market for another option for people. If they want all the capabilities, then yes buy and ID-1.
And for those who can't choke down the price, and perhaps because there is no 1.2 DV or analog repeaters but they want to try what they are missing with their VHF/UHF D-Star radios..... Another option. And the advantage despite the slower data rate is that is can inter-operate with other ID-1's and RP2D's.
That's my $.02
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--- In D-STAR_23cm@..., Mark Thompson <wb9qzb_groups@...> wrote:
The ID-1 is a good value if you use it's entire capabilities instead of only?the DD mode.
I use my ID-1s with analog FM & D-STAR Digital Voice repeaters in addition to the High-Speed (DD) data mode.
If one only wants to do data transmission?there are commercial data only solutions that are less expensive & offer faster data speeds. ?
73, Mark, WB9QZB
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From: kb9mwr <kb9mwr@...>
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Sent: Sun, October 25, 2009 1:57:37 AM
Subject: [D-STAR_23cm] Re: Disappointed with 23cm digital data
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I tend to agree with you on a lot of points here Ed.
Overall it's about 10 years to late like you said. But if there was a good deal I can look past some of that. Unfortunately I don't consider the ID-1 price a good deal.
As I have mentioned elsewhere, I'd like to see a stripped down version. No radio head, or analog/ DV modes, just DD. Perhaps only 1 watt. Something under the $300 mark.
--- In D-STAR_23cm@ yahoogroups. com, "Woodrick, Ed" <ewoodrick@ ..> wrote:
Al,
You are absolutely correct. Compare this to Wi-Fi and it definitely loses.
BUT, AFAIK, this is the only Amateur Radio Only commercially available high-speed mode that we have available, unlike Wi-Fi where we add amplifiers (as non-hams do illegally) and call it Amateur Radio. 90 Kbps (not KBps) is pretty much what most people advertise as the capacity (once the TCP/IP layer is taken into consideration) .
Multiple people don't necessarily mean that the speed is going to drop, that's the way TCP/IP and the Internet works. If you put five people on a network connection, the odds that they will simultaneously be doing data transfer is pretty low. Even if you are actively browsing Web pages, you load a page and then sit back and read it.
So sure, go out and buy a cellular mode, a Clear device, a satellite connection, or jump on hot spots. But none of those are amateur radio and within the realms of our control. Or maybe look at what others are doing with it, such as a few of the Marathons.
I was definitely a little disappointed that the high speed data transfer of the ID-1 was not as much as I had desired and about 10 years late to market. But then again, we've got people still enamored with 1200 baud AX.25 packet, which is now only 30 years old.
But in any case, if you don't believe that you will get any use out of your ID-1, please put it up for sell, as there's a number of people wanting good deals on them!
Ed WA4YIH
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