On Jan 24, 2021, at 13:19, David Ferrington, M0XDF <M0XDF@...> wrote:

As Scott said, we will continue to support you as best we can, but will not update CC, it’s becoming more and more difficult for smaller ‘one-off’ type programs to be run on Mac OS due to Apples increasing security controls.

73 de David, M0XDF

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On 24 Jan 2021, at 18:32, Fred Dalzell via <dalzellf@...> wrote:

Scott - I'm still a novice operator (even though I've reached the General level) and found CC easy to use for those contests in which I participated.

That said, I just got an email back from Bill K1GQ after asking about Winter Field Day. He indicated that the rules are too different from other contests and it would be best to use Field Day and then edit the Cabrillo file.

I thanked him but feel that is an invitation to creating errors. I'll continue to use CC until I can't and maybe then SL or some other software will provide the Cabrillo export we need.

Thanks again for all your work,

Fred KI7BCL

On 24 Jan 2021, at 18:32, Fred Dalzell via <dalzellf@...> wrote:

Scott - I'm still a novice operator (even though I've reached the General level) and found CC easy to use for those contests in which I participated.

That said, I just got an email back from Bill K1GQ after asking about Winter Field Day. He indicated that the rules are too different from other contests and it would be best to use Field Day and then edit the Cabrillo file.

I thanked him but feel that is an invitation to creating errors. I'll continue to use CC until I can't and maybe then SL or some other software will provide the Cabrillo export we need.

Thanks again for all your work,

Fred KI7BCL

On Jan 17, 2021, at 20:46, NE1RD B. Scott Andersen via <bsandersen@...> wrote:

Fellow contesters,

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I discovered the joy of contesting within the first few months of being licensed. It was 2002, sunspots were many, and I was working Europeans like they were next door. I was on an Icom 746Pro and a Power Mac G4 Cube running MacLoggerDX. It was CQ WW DX Phone and, to be honest, I don’t even remember where I stuffed the exchange information. I didn’t know I’d need it. At the end of the contest, when it was time to submit my log, I discovered the hole in my world. What was a Cabrillo file?

?

This prompted me to write the first scripts that would become CabConverter. Windows and DOS users had contest loggers, but nothing existed for that purpose for MacOS—so I wrote my own converter. In the intervening years, I published the first CabConverter 1.0 application written in RealBasic. When it became clear that I needed a way to allow users to build support for contests themselves, I rewrote the program as CabConverter 2 ten years ago.

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I did all this because there wasn’t a solid contest logger for the Macintosh. That has changed. SkookumLogger is now a very mature logging program with a rich feature set. It is also free and available directly from the Apple App store. SkookumLogger is a far superior solution to using MacLoggerDX + CabConverter. I’ve used it in a couple of contests, and I must say I’m impressed.

?

I am recommending that all Macintosh-based contesters download and examine SkookumLogger. You can read about it here:?

?

This weekend I played in the North American QSO party. When the contest was over, I generated a Cabrillo file and submitted it quickly and without any issues. I then exported my log from SkookumLogger to ADIF and imported the data into MacLoggerDX. From MacLoggerDX I uploaded to LoTW, eQSL, and ClubLog, again without incident. I believe that other CabConverter users will have similar experiences.?

?

CabConverter’s purpose is now served much better by another program: SkookumLogger. I am therefore declaring that CabConverter’s end-of-life will be at the end of this contesting season (at the end of May). We (the two moderators and I) will continue to support the program directly through the Groups.IO platform. We will answer questions, moderate messages, help users through conversion and installation issues, and provide any other guidance you might find helpful through May.

?

After that, we’ll open up the group a little bit, allowing users to join without the level of moderation we currently have. We will monitor the traffic and remove bad actors as necessary, but otherwise allow more free access to the software and recipes. We will NOT remove the group or delete the files. CabConveter will be around for as long as people need it. This is a good time to remind people that the software is indeed free, source code is available, and JavaDoc provides reasonable commentary on the form and function, should anybody else want to make a project of this. But I’m guessing that won’t be necessary. Once you try SkookumLogger you’ll be happy to never think about Java or recipes again.

?

You should know that this has been a discussion between the other moderators and me for some time. We wanted to be sure that there was a stable path without CabConverter available for our users. I believe there is.

?

It has been an honor and a joy to provide this to the Macintosh Ham community. I still love MacLoggerDX (it is my main logger) and I still love contesting. Now I have better software for these efforts in SkookumLogger. I hope all of you find this change refreshing as well.

?

Sincerely,

?

— Scott (NE1RD and author of CabConverter)

Il giorno 18 gen 2021, alle ore 03:46, NE1RD B. Scott Andersen via <bsandersen@...> ha scritto:

Fellow contesters,

?

I discovered the joy of contesting within the first few months of being licensed. It was 2002, sunspots were many, and I was working Europeans like they were next door. I was on an Icom 746Pro and a Power Mac G4 Cube running MacLoggerDX. It was CQ WW DX Phone and, to be honest, I don’t even remember where I stuffed the exchange information. I didn’t know I’d need it. At the end of the contest, when it was time to submit my log, I discovered the hole in my world. What was a Cabrillo file?

?

This prompted me to write the first scripts that would become CabConverter. Windows and DOS users had contest loggers, but nothing existed for that purpose for MacOS—so I wrote my own converter. In the intervening years, I published the first CabConverter 1.0 application written in RealBasic. When it became clear that I needed a way to allow users to build support for contests themselves, I rewrote the program as CabConverter 2 ten years ago.

?

I did all this because there wasn’t a solid contest logger for the Macintosh. That has changed. SkookumLogger is now a very mature logging program with a rich feature set. It is also free and available directly from the Apple App store. SkookumLogger is a far superior solution to using MacLoggerDX + CabConverter. I’ve used it in a couple of contests, and I must say I’m impressed.

?

I am recommending that all Macintosh-based contesters download and examine SkookumLogger. You can read about it here:?

?

This weekend I played in the North American QSO party. When the contest was over, I generated a Cabrillo file and submitted it quickly and without any issues. I then exported my log from SkookumLogger to ADIF and imported the data into MacLoggerDX. From MacLoggerDX I uploaded to LoTW, eQSL, and ClubLog, again without incident. I believe that other CabConverter users will have similar experiences.?

?

CabConverter’s purpose is now served much better by another program: SkookumLogger. I am therefore declaring that CabConverter’s end-of-life will be at the end of this contesting season (at the end of May). We (the two moderators and I) will continue to support the program directly through the Groups.IO platform. We will answer questions, moderate messages, help users through conversion and installation issues, and provide any other guidance you might find helpful through May.

?

After that, we’ll open up the group a little bit, allowing users to join without the level of moderation we currently have. We will monitor the traffic and remove bad actors as necessary, but otherwise allow more free access to the software and recipes. We will NOT remove the group or delete the files. CabConveter will be around for as long as people need it. This is a good time to remind people that the software is indeed free, source code is available, and JavaDoc provides reasonable commentary on the form and function, should anybody else want to make a project of this. But I’m guessing that won’t be necessary. Once you try SkookumLogger you’ll be happy to never think about Java or recipes again.

?

You should know that this has been a discussion between the other moderators and me for some time. We wanted to be sure that there was a stable path without CabConverter available for our users. I believe there is.

?

It has been an honor and a joy to provide this to the Macintosh Ham community. I still love MacLoggerDX (it is my main logger) and I still love contesting. Now I have better software for these efforts in SkookumLogger. I hope all of you find this change refreshing as well.

?

Sincerely,

?

— Scott (NE1RD and author of CabConverter)

On Jan 17, 2021, at 6:46 PM, NE1RD B. Scott Andersen via <bsandersen@...> wrote:

Fellow contesters,

?

I discovered the joy of contesting within the first few months of being licensed. It was 2002, sunspots were many, and I was working Europeans like they were next door. I was on an Icom 746Pro and a Power Mac G4 Cube running MacLoggerDX. It was CQ WW DX Phone and, to be honest, I don’t even remember where I stuffed the exchange information. I didn’t know I’d need it. At the end of the contest, when it was time to submit my log, I discovered the hole in my world. What was a Cabrillo file?

?

This prompted me to write the first scripts that would become CabConverter. Windows and DOS users had contest loggers, but nothing existed for that purpose for MacOS—so I wrote my own converter. In the intervening years, I published the first CabConverter 1.0 application written in RealBasic. When it became clear that I needed a way to allow users to build support for contests themselves, I rewrote the program as CabConverter 2 ten years ago.

?

I did all this because there wasn’t a solid contest logger for the Macintosh. That has changed. SkookumLogger is now a very mature logging program with a rich feature set. It is also free and available directly from the Apple App store. SkookumLogger is a far superior solution to using MacLoggerDX + CabConverter. I’ve used it in a couple of contests, and I must say I’m impressed.

?

I am recommending that all Macintosh-based contesters download and examine SkookumLogger. You can read about it here:?

?

This weekend I played in the North American QSO party. When the contest was over, I generated a Cabrillo file and submitted it quickly and without any issues. I then exported my log from SkookumLogger to ADIF and imported the data into MacLoggerDX. From MacLoggerDX I uploaded to LoTW, eQSL, and ClubLog, again without incident. I believe that other CabConverter users will have similar experiences.?

?

CabConverter’s purpose is now served much better by another program: SkookumLogger. I am therefore declaring that CabConverter’s end-of-life will be at the end of this contesting season (at the end of May). We (the two moderators and I) will continue to support the program directly through the Groups.IO platform. We will answer questions, moderate messages, help users through conversion and installation issues, and provide any other guidance you might find helpful through May.

?

After that, we’ll open up the group a little bit, allowing users to join without the level of moderation we currently have. We will monitor the traffic and remove bad actors as necessary, but otherwise allow more free access to the software and recipes. We will NOT remove the group or delete the files. CabConveter will be around for as long as people need it. This is a good time to remind people that the software is indeed free, source code is available, and JavaDoc provides reasonable commentary on the form and function, should anybody else want to make a project of this. But I’m guessing that won’t be necessary. Once you try SkookumLogger you’ll be happy to never think about Java or recipes again.

?

You should know that this has been a discussion between the other moderators and me for some time. We wanted to be sure that there was a stable path without CabConverter available for our users. I believe there is.

?

It has been an honor and a joy to provide this to the Macintosh Ham community. I still love MacLoggerDX (it is my main logger) and I still love contesting. Now I have better software for these efforts in SkookumLogger. I hope all of you find this change refreshing as well.

?

Sincerely,

?

— Scott (NE1RD and author of CabConverter)

On Dec 8, 2020, at 12:25 PM, NE1RD B. Scott Andersen via <bsandersen@...> wrote:

William,

Please see this message: /g/CabConverter/topic/running_cabconverter_in_big/78777167

and watch the video mentioned on the group's home page for instruction on how to start CabConverter from the Terminal command line. If this doesn't work for you, please let us know. We're all getting used to the new MacOS release.

Thank you,

-- Scott (NE1RD and author of CabConverter)

On Dec 6, 2020, at 12:50 PM, NE1RD B. Scott Andersen via <bsandersen@...> wrote:

Dear Phil,

Please try the following:

1. Open System Preferences
2. Click on Security & Privacy
3. Click on Full Disk Access
4. Unlock by authenticating (open the lock in the bottom left)
5. Look for Java in the list of applications. ?IT PROBABLY ISN'T THERE. We will likely need to add it.
6. Click the + button if Java is not present
7. In the search box (upper right) type "java"
8. You should now have a list of applications with "java" in the name. You will likely have multiple instances of Java. That's normal.
9. Select all the instances of "java" (click the top one, then shift-click the bottom one to select the range)
10. Click "Open" to add those selected applications to the list
11. Verify that every java you selected has a checkmark by it. I had three, so all three are now checked.
12. Close System Preferences

You should now have no more permissions problems with Java. I can't say if that fixes everything--you need to try it and see. But, without these permissions I wouldn't expect anything to work, so it was a necessary first step.

Please let me know if this helps. It is is a success, you might want to tell the group, too!

Thanks for your patience. We'll work through this.

-- Scott (NE1RD and Author of CabConverter)

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I dont see a java permissions help folder

On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 10:00 PM BRANDON CURRIN via <N4BKCRADIO=[email protected]> wrote:

Version? 11.0.1

On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 9:53 PM NE1RD B. Scott Andersen via <bsandersen=[email protected]> wrote:

Brandon,

Please let me know the version of MacOS you are using. Also, check out the recent messages about fixing permission problems. Let me know how it went.

Thanks and 73,

-- Scott (NE1RD and author of CabConverter)