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I am all ears since I cannot seem to front panel program my UV-5R.



73
Karl
KI4ZUQ

Karl . . .

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 14:23:00 -0700, "Karl via groups.io"
<karlshumaker@...> wrote:

I am all ears since I cannot seem to front panel program my UV-5R.

It's possible, but I would never want to try it.

My advice is to get the official Baofeng cable for a little over $8:



Other cables MAY (or may not) work. This one has the FDTI chipset in it. Some
come with a Prolific chipset, and there are a lot of "clones" for the Prolific
chip. The problem is with the clones, the device driver does not work as it
recognizes it as a fake.

You'll need to install the driver software for the cable. The cable should come
with instructions for that. Windows may install the correct driver.

Download CHIRP and install it:



read or watch these and then program your radio:







I haven't vetted the above links but they appear to be instructive. Make sure
you pick the correct COM port for the radio and that you have the volume control
wide open since it uses the audio circuit as part of the path to programming the
radio's database. You download FROM the radio first, and SAVE the original
database, even if it's all blank. Then you modify the fields to match the
repeaters and simplex frequencies you want, then UPLOAD to the radio.

I believe Baofeng also provides a downloadable software to program the radio
with. I have no experience with that so if you use that, you're on your own.
CHIRP is free. There's also RT System's software and cable. Together they should
run you about $50-$60. It's a little smoother to work with but not much. It's
easier to get local repeaters automatically loaded based on miles from your zip
code, but you can do that with CHIRP with a little more effort. Chances are that
at least some of the Repeaterbook repeaters you'd get through CHIRP or RT
System's software will be paper repeaters and not actually in operation.

We have a CHIRP group, too, but I doubt you'll need to join it. If you have
trouble with CHIRP, then join the other group, but remember, we're a self-help
group. CHIRP has some way of feeding back problems on their site.

If you still want to do it from the front panel, web search for how to do it or
read or watch these:










Donald KX8K



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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP

Once you understand how it works, it is really easy. Visit the miklor.com website, choose the UV-5R and scroll down to the Manual Programming section. Use one of the several manual programming guides there (same info just presented in different ways). Then if you still have trouble, mention which guide you are using and where you are stuck and we can help you get past the rough spot.

Jim KC9HI

Thank you both for the rapid response! Will post progress!

73
Karl

There is a cable supplied with the radio just like your link:

My advice is to get the official Baofeng cable for a little over $8:

Karl . . .

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 14:23:00 -0700, "Karl via groups.io"
<karlshumaker@...> wrote:

I am all ears since I cannot seem to front panel program my UV-5R.

This is a web search for installing CHIRP in case you need it. It's filtered for
videos:



This search isn't filtered:





Donald KX8K



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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP

Watched all three videos on programming and discovered that I was putting all efforts into the LOWER channel on the screen. So now I will return to the shack, and try to do this.

I actually got NOAA channel 7 (162.550 mhz) in radio channel 0 and a local repeater in chan 1. When I tried to put in another local repeater I never could get the offset sign to cooperate. Probably because I was using the lower screen....will advise....

That was it! Programming attempted in bottom freq slot not top. Got the third freq and parameters in seconds! Checked the "instruction book" and found NO MENTION of what/which window to be used!

TOP WINDOW for programming!

?

The first video does not stress using the top position but I can see that is what he did.

The second video pointedly declares use the A side or top position! He was the key!

Most videos that I have seen leave out crucial steps that, if not done, result in failure. Such as you must be in the top (A) VFO, the target memory must be empty, etc. Most also provide misleading and/or incorrect advice or explanations.

That is why I typically avoid recommending videos and instead refer people that want to manually program their radio to the Miklor website. All of the methods there have been reviewed and determined to include every necessary step.

But for those that insist on watching a video, this is the only one that I know of that correctly covers all of the necessary steps.


Jim KC9HI

Because you don't understand how the "offset" sign works. These radios don't use offsets in memory channels. Instead they are programmed with the RX frequency and the direct TX frequency (because that is how repeaters work).

User TX frequency --> Repeater RX frequency
User RX frequency <-- Repeater TX frequency

No offset needed.

So when programming manually you put the RX frequency into VFO A and write that frequency into the target channel with menu 27 (MEM-CH). Once you've done this you have created a simplex channel in the target channel.

Then you change the frequency displayed in VFO to the TX frequency for the intended repeater. Don't forget to check to make sure that menu 12 (T-DCS) and/or menu 13 (T-CTCS) are set to the correct values. Now you store the TX frequency to the same memory channel as before to update only the TX frequency (and T-DCS code or T-CTCS tone if applicable),

Now once you switch to MR (channel) mode and select the newly programmed channel, the upper status display area will show a "+-" symbol to indicate that the RX frequency and TX frequency are not the same (as would be the case for a repeater, odd-split, cross-band or TX disabled channel). You will only see an individual "+" or "-" symbol in VFO (frequency) mode when you are using menu 25 and menu 26.

Jim KC9HI

I programmed as par instuctions in videos above that told to program in top window (which the book left out) including sign of offset and 600 khz and the freq readout changes when PTT. This is the desired action of the radio. Your instructions confuse the issue.

I wasn't aware of this, either, and just happened to always have it in the top
position.

Some YouTube video sand teachers may skip over what they think is obvious (to
them), when it's not obvious to some of us. Same as it was in K-12 school and
college. That also applies to written information.



Donald KX8K




On Tue, 04 Apr 2023 07:37:08 -0700, "Karl via groups.io"
<karlshumaker@...> wrote:

The first video does not stress using the top position but I can see that is what he did.

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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP

If you got it programmed correctly, that's great. If not . . .

If you have trouble with CHIRP, you might try the Baofeng software. I haven't
tried it but I believe it's said to be similar to CHIRP.

The RT Systems software is the easiest of all the methods (but still requires a
PC). They provide REAL support, and make getting the repeaters in your area into
memories somewhat easier than CHIRP does. But it's not free.

The problem I had with RT Systems was that it didn't put the closest repeaters
into the lower numbered memories. You have to copy and paste back and forth
until you get them arranged the way you want, not in some semi-random fashion
that only looks for repeaters within a certain mile range of where you specify.

I just did it manually in CHIRP.


Donald KX8K





On Tue, 04 Apr 2023 12:34:55 -0700, "Karl via groups.io"
<karlshumaker@...> wrote:

I programmed as par instuctions in videos above that told to program in top window (which the book left out) including sign of offset and 600 khz and the freq readout changes when PTT. This is the desired action of the radio. Your instructions confuse the issue.

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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP

Another tip is to find a channel where there are no signals. If there is a signal present the programming won't finish. I remove the antenna and temporarily attach a dummy load, but avoiding transmitting accidentally without the antenna should be good enough. Sadly I cannot remember where I read this, but the Miklor website seems most likely?
--
Steve, G4VRR.

Steve . . .

On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 01:32:15 -0700, "Steve" <g4vrr57@...> wrote:

Another tip is to find a channel where there are no signals. If there is a signal present the programming won't finish

That's good to know, and something I wouldn't have thought of, but I probably
would have tuned to a quiet frequency anyway just to be able to concentrate on
what I'm doing. It's probably because it uses the audio circuit somehow to get
the data from the PC to the radio's memories. If you don't have the volume
control open enough, the programming won't work, so it goes through the volume
control, and it probably uses tones to do the programming.


Donald KX8K



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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP

PC programming these radios does not use audio. The programming cable does not include the wires for the speaker or microphone audio because they are not used. The programming is done digitally using RS232 signals at TTL levels. Being a CHIRP developer, I have programmed hundreds of radios. I never intentionally increase the volume any higher than what it takes to power on the radio. I have never encountered a situation where it necessary to increase it any higher.

KC9HI

The programming cable does not include the wires for the speaker or microphone audio because they are not used.

Does this mean the Baofeng cable supplied that has a Type A usb plug on one end and mic/phone plugs on the other?

Technically on the programming cable they are not the "mic/phone plugs" because there are no wires for the speaker or mic audio. In other words you cannot take a programming cable, cut off the USB end and use it to make a speaker/mic. The wires necessary for speaker and mic audio (the green and blue wires in the pinout provided by Walt, N3PLA in the following link) are not included because they would not be connected to anything.

The 3 wires that are inside the programming cable are for RXData, TXData and Ground only.



This page also includes a picture of my homemade programming cable with black, brown and yellow wires.

Jim KC9HI