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Technically on the programming cable they are not the "mic/phone plugs" because there are no wires for the speaker or mic audio. In other words you cannot take a programming cable, cut off the USB end and use it to make a speaker/mic. The wires necessary for speaker and mic audio (the green and blue wires in the pinout provided by Walt, N3PLA in the following link) are not included because they would not be connected to anything.

The 3 wires that are inside the programming cable are for RXData, TXData and Ground only.



This page also includes a picture of my homemade programming cable with black, brown and yellow wires.

Jim KC9HI

The programming cable does not include the wires for the speaker or microphone audio because they are not used.

Does this mean the Baofeng cable supplied that has a Type A usb plug on one end and mic/phone plugs on the other?

PC programming these radios does not use audio. The programming cable does not include the wires for the speaker or microphone audio because they are not used. The programming is done digitally using RS232 signals at TTL levels. Being a CHIRP developer, I have programmed hundreds of radios. I never intentionally increase the volume any higher than what it takes to power on the radio. I have never encountered a situation where it necessary to increase it any higher.

KC9HI

Steve . . .

On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 01:32:15 -0700, "Steve" <g4vrr57@...> wrote:

Another tip is to find a channel where there are no signals. If there is a signal present the programming won't finish

That's good to know, and something I wouldn't have thought of, but I probably
would have tuned to a quiet frequency anyway just to be able to concentrate on
what I'm doing. It's probably because it uses the audio circuit somehow to get
the data from the PC to the radio's memories. If you don't have the volume
control open enough, the programming won't work, so it goes through the volume
control, and it probably uses tones to do the programming.


Donald KX8K



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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP

Another tip is to find a channel where there are no signals. If there is a signal present the programming won't finish. I remove the antenna and temporarily attach a dummy load, but avoiding transmitting accidentally without the antenna should be good enough. Sadly I cannot remember where I read this, but the Miklor website seems most likely?
--
Steve, G4VRR.

If you got it programmed correctly, that's great. If not . . .

If you have trouble with CHIRP, you might try the Baofeng software. I haven't
tried it but I believe it's said to be similar to CHIRP.

The RT Systems software is the easiest of all the methods (but still requires a
PC). They provide REAL support, and make getting the repeaters in your area into
memories somewhat easier than CHIRP does. But it's not free.

The problem I had with RT Systems was that it didn't put the closest repeaters
into the lower numbered memories. You have to copy and paste back and forth
until you get them arranged the way you want, not in some semi-random fashion
that only looks for repeaters within a certain mile range of where you specify.

I just did it manually in CHIRP.


Donald KX8K





On Tue, 04 Apr 2023 12:34:55 -0700, "Karl via groups.io"
<karlshumaker@...> wrote:

I programmed as par instuctions in videos above that told to program in top window (which the book left out) including sign of offset and 600 khz and the freq readout changes when PTT. This is the desired action of the radio. Your instructions confuse the issue.

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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP

I wasn't aware of this, either, and just happened to always have it in the top
position.

Some YouTube video sand teachers may skip over what they think is obvious (to
them), when it's not obvious to some of us. Same as it was in K-12 school and
college. That also applies to written information.



Donald KX8K




On Tue, 04 Apr 2023 07:37:08 -0700, "Karl via groups.io"
<karlshumaker@...> wrote:

The first video does not stress using the top position but I can see that is what he did.

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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP

I programmed as par instuctions in videos above that told to program in top window (which the book left out) including sign of offset and 600 khz and the freq readout changes when PTT. This is the desired action of the radio. Your instructions confuse the issue.

Because you don't understand how the "offset" sign works. These radios don't use offsets in memory channels. Instead they are programmed with the RX frequency and the direct TX frequency (because that is how repeaters work).

User TX frequency --> Repeater RX frequency
User RX frequency <-- Repeater TX frequency

No offset needed.

So when programming manually you put the RX frequency into VFO A and write that frequency into the target channel with menu 27 (MEM-CH). Once you've done this you have created a simplex channel in the target channel.

Then you change the frequency displayed in VFO to the TX frequency for the intended repeater. Don't forget to check to make sure that menu 12 (T-DCS) and/or menu 13 (T-CTCS) are set to the correct values. Now you store the TX frequency to the same memory channel as before to update only the TX frequency (and T-DCS code or T-CTCS tone if applicable),

Now once you switch to MR (channel) mode and select the newly programmed channel, the upper status display area will show a "+-" symbol to indicate that the RX frequency and TX frequency are not the same (as would be the case for a repeater, odd-split, cross-band or TX disabled channel). You will only see an individual "+" or "-" symbol in VFO (frequency) mode when you are using menu 25 and menu 26.

Jim KC9HI

Most videos that I have seen leave out crucial steps that, if not done, result in failure. Such as you must be in the top (A) VFO, the target memory must be empty, etc. Most also provide misleading and/or incorrect advice or explanations.

That is why I typically avoid recommending videos and instead refer people that want to manually program their radio to the Miklor website. All of the methods there have been reviewed and determined to include every necessary step.

But for those that insist on watching a video, this is the only one that I know of that correctly covers all of the necessary steps.


Jim KC9HI

Most Windows user should download and install the "installer.exe" build. It installs the program and puts a CHIRP shortcut in users Start menu. It can also be uninstalled by using the "Uninstall a program" feature in the Windows Control Panel.

More experienced Windows users can use the portable "win32.zip" build if they want. All they have to do is extract it to a convenient location. For example you could extract it to a USB thumb drive so you can plug it into your laptop or desktop computer. It is run by going to the folder that it was extracted to and double-clicking the "chirpwx.exe" file. You can also create a shortcut to this file and put it on your desktop if you wish. This is what I do to keep a copy of the final 20221227 build of CHIRP classic on my PC along with the latest version of CHIRP-next.

Jim KC9HI

No windows s...

Hard drive is 237 GB with 184 GB free so that is not a problem.

Just tried aggain to load both installer and the zipped file for windows. It loads but no icon on desktop and I have no idea what to do next so I deleted all that had been loaded.

I need step by step instructions. Tell it like you would a four year old

The second video pointedly declares use the A side or top position! He was the key!

The first video does not stress using the top position but I can see that is what he did.

That was it! Programming attempted in bottom freq slot not top. Got the third freq and parameters in seconds! Checked the "instruction book" and found NO MENTION of what/which window to be used!

TOP WINDOW for programming!

?

Watched all three videos on programming and discovered that I was putting all efforts into the LOWER channel on the screen. So now I will return to the shack, and try to do this.

I actually got NOAA channel 7 (162.550 mhz) in radio channel 0 and a local repeater in chan 1. When I tried to put in another local repeater I never could get the offset sign to cooperate. Probably because I was using the lower screen....will advise....

Karl . . .

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 14:23:00 -0700, "Karl via groups.io"
<karlshumaker@...> wrote:

I am all ears since I cannot seem to front panel program my UV-5R.

This is a web search for installing CHIRP in case you need it. It's filtered for
videos:



This search isn't filtered:





Donald KX8K



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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP

Karl . . .


On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 18:24:11 -0700, "Karl via groups.io"
<karlshumaker@...> wrote:

I have a Chuwi (walmart cheapo) laptop with Windows 10. Please describe step-by-step, button-by-button how to install, post a desktop icon (if required) and then how to chirp my BearFang UV-5R (without a "BAND" button).

Is your Windows laptop running Windows "S" ?



If it is, you're stuck with only being able to run apps from the Windows store.
Most of the following only applies if you have Windows 10 S.

From the above link:

"If you try to download a (non-Store) desktop application on a Windows 10 S PC,
you’ll see a message saying that “For security and performance, Windows 10 S
only runs verified apps from the Store”.

So if you're seeing that, your laptop probably is running Windows S.

You may be able to upgrade to Windows 10 Pro for free if you use the "assistive
technologies" loophole mentioned in the article if this is the case.

If your laptop is NOT running the S version of Windows, my guess is that you may
have a laptop with a small "hard" drive like 32 GB. If that's the case, just be
aware that you're not going to be able to install many programs on it. A friend
of mine had one of these and we weren't even able to update Windows since it
didn't have enough space left for the temporary files needed for the update. I
made him aware of the space limitation on low cost PCs and to watch out for that
in the future. Hopefully you have not run out of hard drive space. If you have,
you'll need to uninstall some programs or delete some files to make room for
CHIRP.

More information on S mode is here:







Donald KX8K



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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP

There is a cable supplied with the radio just like your link:

My advice is to get the official Baofeng cable for a little over $8: