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Re: cdv700 probe

 

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I have a partial spool of the original coaxial Belden wire. It was steel stranded and rated to withstand the probe voltage (at least 1kv DC). If you send me a self-addressed stamped small padded mailer I will send you 6 feet (enough to do 2 Vic) no charge.

David Nix

6861 NW 24th Place

Sunrise , FL 33313

Otherwise any coaxial wire that fits and is rated to 1KV will work

On 12/19/2022 11:01 AM, Clint wrote:

I have a Victoreen 6A with a damaged probe wire and I'm looking at repairing it. Does anyone know what material is used between the geiger tube and the tube socket inside the probe? ?Is it required for some reason?

Clint


Re: cdv700 probe

 

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that rubber like pad? I have a couple operating without it no problem.??


-------- Original message --------
From: Clint <clintb@...>
Date: 12/19/22 8:02 AM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [CDV700CLUB] cdv700 probe

I have a Victoreen 6A with a damaged probe wire and I'm looking at repairing it. Does anyone know what material is used between the geiger tube and the tube socket inside the probe? ?Is it required for some reason?

Clint


cdv700 probe

 

I have a Victoreen 6A with a damaged probe wire and I'm looking at repairing it. Does anyone know what material is used between the geiger tube and the tube socket inside the probe? ?Is it required for some reason?

Clint


Re: Lionel VR tube info

 

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Hi Clint,

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I don’t know about the electrometer tube but I noticed that Michael says that they work.

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I have put the kits in a lot of CD V-700s and they are great.? I even put some in the older Eberline instruments.

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Lenox

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Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Lionel VR tube info

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Lenox,

I have ordered the item from eBay.

I also have a CDV-715 n repair. Do you know if a 5886 electrometer pentode is a direct replacement for the hard to find Victoreen VX86?

Clint

Thank you,
Clint


Re: Lionel VR tube info

 

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meaning they worked on cdv715. dont know about replacing corotron tube


-------- Original message --------
From: Michael C <mtcooper01@...>
Date: 12/18/22 12:47 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Lionel VR tube info

yes I believe so? ?I ordered a batch of those pentodes on ebay. . they worked.??


-------- Original message --------
From: Clint <clintb@...>
Date: 12/18/22 12:25 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Lionel VR tube info

Lenox,

I have ordered the item from eBay.

I also have a CDV-715 n repair. Do you know if a 5886 electrometer pentode is a direct replacement for the hard to find Victoreen VX86?

Clint

Thank you,
Clint


Re: Lionel VR tube info

 

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yes I believe so? ?I ordered a batch of those pentodes on ebay. . they worked.??


-------- Original message --------
From: Clint <clintb@...>
Date: 12/18/22 12:25 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Lionel VR tube info

Lenox,

I have ordered the item from eBay.

I also have a CDV-715 n repair. Do you know if a 5886 electrometer pentode is a direct replacement for the hard to find Victoreen VX86?

Clint

Thank you,
Clint


Re: Lionel VR tube info

 

Lenox,

I have ordered the item from eBay.

I also have a CDV-715 n repair. Do you know if a 5886 electrometer pentode is a direct replacement for the hard to find Victoreen VX86?

Clint

Thank you,
Clint


Re: Lionel VR tube info

 

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Try this, Clint.? It will replace the VR tube and the high voltage rectifier.? I have used many of them and they work fine.? I have one in my Lionel now.? The guy that makes them is a great guy.

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Lenox

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Subject: [CDV700CLUB] Lionel VR tube info

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Hello,

I have a Lionel CD V-700 Model 6b currently in good working order. ?I am looking for information on replacing the HV regulator tube for future reference. The documentation only states it is a Lionel part# 416.
Is the tube a GV3A-900 equivalent or something else?
Is it possible to drop a zener stack directly in place of the tube?

Thanks,
Clint


Lionel VR tube info

 

Hello,

I have a Lionel CD V-700 Model 6b currently in good working order. ?I am looking for information on replacing the HV regulator tube for future reference. The documentation only states it is a Lionel part# 416.
Is the tube a GV3A-900 equivalent or something else?
Is it possible to drop a zener stack directly in place of the tube?

Thanks,
Clint


Experiment packages ready to send- select postage due: Geo

 

We're trying a new shipping method through eBay for Group Buys and Experiment Packages. The ads are arranged according to country and weight.

There may be bugs in the process, but so far, it's worked smoothly for both US and overseas. Cheaper that buying postage at the US Post office, plus it's tracked via eBay notification and so on.

For USA ONLY there are several ads listed according to weight.

Under 1 lb. can go by cheap first-class mail.

Above that it's usually Priority, and there may be other carriers available to you too, that's something we'll learn together.

PAY $1 for one shipping label to cover the fee, then eBay will charge you the discounted postage. Nice, clean, fast.

NOTE: Above 10 lb. is usually required a "large package". Under 10 lb. can be a large, or small package depending upon the size of the contents.


MIKE L. your box including the AC millivoltmeter and audio generator (a.k.a. Group Pulser Project) fits 20-25 lb.? IF we leave out the above instruments, it will qualify for the 9-10 lb. category:

Peter S. your package is in the under 1 lb. limit:

Alan J. 12 lb. (so there's room for more):

If you're package doesn't fit a category or is not listed above, please contact me.

The current Group Buy is for E&L CADET breadboards.
Pictures soon. These are the ones with the function generator and other essential instrumentation and accessories built in.


PRIORITY MAIL-
20-25 lb.= https://www.ebay.com/itm/295167977663

15-20 lb.=?https://www.ebay.com/itm/295167976503

10-15 lb.= https://www.ebay.com/itm/295167965402

? 9-10 lb.=?https://www.ebay.com/itm/295167959912

? 4-5 lb.=?https://www.ebay.com/itm/295168093153


FIRST Class USPS Mail <1 lb.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/295167943931

Geo





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Off Topic -- My Friend Needs Help

 

Re:??Off Topic -- My Friend Needs Help

Dear Enthusiasts,

? ? ?Please forgive me for going?Off Topic, but my friend Dom needs some help.? Please see the link below:??

  • Please help our Brother get back on track
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Thank you.

Sincerely,
Cliff

P.S.:? I've never done this before...??


PEXRF- Positron Emission X-Ray Fluorescence of Rare Earths via K-Shell XRF...You Saw It Here First

 


My original research of 20 years.

(c) 2022 George Dowell, Viscom Inc., GEOelectronics@...

Have fun
Geo


Re: Sequencing round led display for behind Victoreen cdv-700

 

I like your idea.? That could look pretty neat.? You should look in the group files if you haven't already:? Doug Moore's Archive's: A little pizzaz for the CDV-700.? Doug mounted a few flashing LEDs behind the meter with a custom built adapter. No modification required to the meter.? You might get some ideas.? If you use 3mm LEDs you might be able to fit 10 as a decade counter for use with the 4017.

If you only need a couple of chips you might consider point to point wiring on a blank board.? I do this often for small, one off projects.

Mike L.


Re: Sequencing round led display for behind Victoreen cdv-700

 

I found this board to use.?
I wont use the oversize leds, there still 20ma but just more plastic. But has to be converted to from monostable 555 to astable.

On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:31 PM peter via <epkoncept=[email protected]> wrote:
Paul
?not the right formfactor and also its not a spinning light but just a level meter

It could be an alternate display to the analog meter.?

P


Re: Sequencing round led display for behind Victoreen cdv-700

 

Paul
?not the right formfactor and also its not a spinning light but just a level meter

It could be an alternate display to the analog meter.?

P


Re: ENi-CDV-700 HV Supply Troubleshooting

 

Russian Transistors used in all 3 positions on? ENi CDV-700 with LENi Mods. (LENiSKi)

Direct transistor swap, with particular performance testing done on the HV transistor. The LENi mod adds a Zener Diode regulator, so HV output remained the same as with original transistors. Everything went smooth and operation continued as normal, but the calibration changed with the new transistors, and was easily recalibrated with no issues.?

LENiSKi
LENi_russ._transistors-small.jpg


V1-SKi-Base_189Hz
V1-SKi-Base_189Hz.jpg


V1-SKi-Base-7.52_AC-VPP
V1-SKi-iBase_7.52_AC-VPP.jpg

V1-SKi-Base-0.415 DCV
V1-SKi-Base_0.415DCV.jpg

With the in-line 3.3V regulator, the LENiSki draws 85mA **READ UPPER SCALES**(about normal for Batteries too) from?the DC Power Supply set to 11V (max input/output V differential for the 3.3)
This test was performed to see if the capabilities of the regulator were true to their specifications, but is 12V or more were contemplated, a 5V regulator would work if installed before the 3.3V regulator. REMEMBER CDV-700's are POSITIVE GROUND! Don't try to run them on a vehicle battery system, the case would be HOT. This issue can be addressed if the CDV700 and its probe is isolated from the case. A separate discussion.

LENiSKi-at-11V-85mA-With-3.3V_ inline-regulator.jpg

HV output remains the same due to Zener Regulator in HV line.

LENiSKi-HV_out.jpg

Geo







Re: ENi-CDV-700 HV Supply Troubleshooting

 

Oscilloscope patterns of original V-1 HV transistor generator circuit:

Base-167 Hz:
ENi-V1_Base_Hz.jpg

Base 7.85 ACV-P-P
EniV1Base_V_P-P.small.jpg

V1-Collector 334Hz
ENi-V1_Collector-Hz-small.jpg

V1-Collector 2.61 DCV
Eni-V1Collector_DC-Volts-small.jpg

V1-Collector 7.4 ACV
EniV1Collector_7.4 ACV.jpg


Geo

Note The LENi-SKi2 Russian transistor hack next.






Re: ENi-CDV-700 HV Supply Troubleshooting

 

On the test bench, CDV-700's etc. are fitted with a temporary quick disconnect (5.5 X 2.1, pin+) for their "Battery" power input.

The ENi CDV-700 normally operate from a two D-Cell Dry Battery, but on the test bench, we use a regulated DC Power supply, which in turn supplies an in-line 3.3V AMS1117 regulator module. Metering of Voltage and current are done by in-line instruments, as needed. The same 3.3V regulator is used for all CDV-700 tests to keep the measurements of different '700's etc.?constant and relevant over time.
LENiSki2_bottom-small.jpg



AMS-1117-3.3V_reg-small.jpg


Also, the boards are removed from their cases, for I/O, testing, and photographing in a simple jig
ENi-V1_Collector_setup.small.jpg

Geo





ENi-CDV-700 HV Supply Troubleshooting

 

HV Transistor ENi-1 V1
Some waveforms and Voltages seen and measured on a working CDV-700 / LENi mod, in preparation to try a Russian PNP Ge. transistor in that circuit.

First tests are made with the original, hand selected by ENi HV transistor marked ENi-1. The only difference I have found between ENi-1/ENi-2/ENi-3 transistor is the gain factor. They all appear to be a 2N404 as available in 1962, all are PNP, and are all the same physically, but segregated in their own gain into rough groups, with frequent overlap in those groups as tested today. Gain variants were quite common in the early 60's when the manufacturers would make huge runs of a "type", then measure each one to see what they had actually turned out to be. There were hundreds of part numbers back then, populated by individually selected transistors from a single production run. We still deal with that same issue today in certain semiconductors, but instead of different numbers, they are rated to different tolerances. Needless to say, devices with the exact same part number and no tolerance specified, as available to hobbyists today (eBay etc.) are all over the place in terms of performance, but usually nowhere near the stated value. To me this indicates what's being sold are off-falls from the grading process, even if they are in tape-and-reels.

I tried to document the base and collector DCV, ACV P-P (peak-to-peak), the frequency in Hz at each, and a waveform at each, to compare to any differences when simply substituting V1 with a Russian transistor. The emitter in grounded in the LENi V-1.

The Russian transistors are the same germanium type, polarity and pinout, but a few differences in construction are obvious (the base lead is also the metal case). In separate and not shown here gain measurements, the Russian transistors have a more consistent gain factor, and in al cases, it was as high or higher than the best category in the ENi-1/ENi-2/ENi-3 hand selected lots.

Pictures and data will be in the next posts.

Note: in the Scope/Analyzer I use, the waveform is scaled automatically by the smart probe, and the Voltages are measured by a 3rd. wire in the scope probe so don't need to be scaled (what they read is direct). It is rated to 2000V so beware, on some measurements, they may cause damage your scope if duplicated.

Geo





































Re: Sequencing round led display for behind Victoreen cdv-700

 

No problem/no rush Paul. Just know you have an audience here when you're ready. Best of luck with your project.

Geo

----- Original Message -----
From: paul davis <paulkd4ll@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 21:18:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Sequencing round led display for behind Victoreen cdv-700

I'll have to get busy, it's half done. Now green yellow or the hard to get soft white leds that imitate?incandescent?bulbs. thanks for the encouragement.

On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 1:23 PM Geo Dowell <GEOelectronics@...> wrote:
I've seen members come up with a lot of hacks Paul, but yours seems unique. We would all like to hear about it and maybe see it in action. Sounds very interesting for sure.

Geo

----- Original Message -----
From: paul davis <paulkd4ll@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 07:13:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [CDV700CLUB] Sequencing round led display for behind Victoreen cdv-700

I have a vic with the cut down battery box. I am considering adding a 2.3 inch circular led sequencer board behind the plexiglass meter. I have done this with a Cajoe?geiger kit and a converted linear led chaser kit. You have to convert the 555 chip from astable multivibrator to monostable and adjust the input resistance. The other chip is a 4017. You could see the relative radiation from across the room by how fast the circle spins. Looks similar to an atomic test countdown counter. I was wondering if anyone has tried something similar? Thanks