Re: eBay listings exaggerations
I agree David, but my eBay experience while long*, is small (actually micro) compared with the junk dealers and overseas merchants. eBay doesn't even supply my packing tape or materials like the big boys get. As long as eBay wants to be AMAZON etc. that'll never change. They do crack down on person-to-person solicitation, but probably don't have time to put an actual person on the case.
* In the beginning, eBay was all text. If you wanted a picture, you had to host it somewhere and provide a text link to it. Pictures were forbidden on eBay, and we had dial up modems, 28k!
It took me all day to download the Gamma Ray Spectrum Catalog from Idaho National Lab! It was the largest file (12MB) I ever successfully downloaded, and it took several attempts because I would get bumped off of internet and have to start over.
As my old friend, Iben Trudaropes says, "Grin and Bear it!"
Geo
----- Original Message ----- From: David71 via groups.io <dnix71@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Wed, 01 Jun 2022 00:27:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [CDV700CLUB] eBay listings exaggerations
Geo, you sell a lot on eBay, maybe they would listen to you. I buy a lot of parts for repairs for tools from eBay and lately they seem to be slipping on basic listing enforcment. People are adding their phone numbers and saying "don't pay here" or "local pickup only." This isn't OfferUp, it's eBay. Plus as you all noted in other posts, battery capacities are just plain fake sometimes and there are EMF devices listed as "geiger counters". This is an example of that:
I reported this listing and nothing was done: look in the notes at the bottom. Seller says don't pay here, call me a make a cash deal and lists a phone number.
I could fill a page with listing numbers that shouldn't be there, but ebay doesn't make it easy to file a report. Someone should be paid to scan categories and clean things up.
Here is a fake battery listing from Amazon, just to be fair to eBay. https://www.amazon.com/Flashlights-Capacity-Rechargeable-Emergency-Tokeyla/dp/B0B12GLR88/
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eBay listings exaggerations
Geo, you sell a lot on eBay, maybe they would listen to you. I buy a lot of parts for repairs for tools from eBay and lately they seem to be slipping on basic listing enforcment. People are adding their phone numbers and saying "don't pay here" or "local pickup only." This isn't OfferUp, it's eBay. Plus as you all noted in other posts, battery capacities are just plain fake sometimes and there are EMF devices listed as "geiger counters". This is an example of that:
I reported this listing and nothing was done: look in the notes at the bottom. Seller says don't pay here, call me a make a cash deal and lists a phone number.
I could fill a page with listing numbers that shouldn't be there, but ebay doesn't make it easy to file a report. Someone should be paid to scan categories and clean things up.
Here is a fake battery listing from Amazon, just to be fair to eBay. https://www.amazon.com/Flashlights-Capacity-Rechargeable-Emergency-Tokeyla/dp/B0B12GLR88/
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Re: Bucket List- Stabilize ENi/LENi/Lionel CDV-700 HV and LV power supplies and possible lead-in to rechargeable 18650 batteries.
"That black sign worked most of the time."?
Yep, and the yellow button sums it all up.
In my position I thought: "Yellow Button" but said: Yes SIR! Right away SIR!
Geo
----- Original Message ----- From: freshndaire <fanman@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Tue, 31 May 2022 15:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Bucket List- Stabilize ENi/LENi/Lionel CDV-700 HV and LV power supplies and possible lead-in to rechargeable 18650 batteries.
It¡¯s even worse, they are 5000mV out.? ? I engraved the two signs in the picture signs back in the 80s.? The red sign was a joke.? The black sign not so much.? I used to work with a lot of engineers, some would bring you a project then wait for you to start working on it not realizing you had a system down with test time that was worth $225/hr and the person that runs it waiting for you to get the parts and fix it. ?Adding more pressure didn¡¯t help.? That black sign worked most of the time. ? Clay ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geo Dowell
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 1:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Bucket List- Stabilize ENi/LENi/Lionel CDV-700 HV and LV power supplies and possible lead-in to rechargeable 18650 batteries. ?
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Re: Bucket List- Stabilize ENi/LENi/Lionel CDV-700 HV and LV power supplies and possible lead-in to rechargeable 18650 batteries.
It¡¯s even worse, they are 5000mV out.? ? I engraved the two signs in the picture signs back in the 80s.? The red sign was a joke.? The black sign not so much.? I used to work with a lot of engineers, some would bring you a project then wait for you to start working on it not realizing you had a system down with test time that was worth $225/hr and the person that runs it waiting for you to get the parts and fix it. ?Adding more pressure didn¡¯t help.? That black sign worked most of the time. ? Clay ?
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Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 1:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Bucket List- Stabilize ENi/LENi/Lionel CDV-700 HV and LV power supplies and possible lead-in to rechargeable 18650 batteries.?
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Re: Bucket List- Stabilize ENi/LENi/Lionel CDV-700 HV and LV power supplies and possible lead-in to rechargeable 18650 batteries.
"5000000mAh power bank'
Danger! 3700 mVolts!
----- Original Message ----- From: freshndaire <fanman@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Tue, 31 May 2022 14:52:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Bucket List- Stabilize ENi/LENi/Lionel CDV-700 HV and LV power supplies and possible lead-in to rechargeable 18650 batteries.
Advertising Hype?? You mean I can¡¯t really step up from 2600mAh cells at $1.87 to the 9900mAh cells for $2.08, only $.21 more!? Darn, I guess I really didn¡¯t want those wimpy cells anyway when I can buy a 5000000mAh power bank for $17.79!? and it has a built-in 2W solar cell for recharging!? That¡¯s about 1/3 of the power in a Tesla battery and it fits in a pocket!? I could power a home built electric car for about $50.? I could power my house during power outages!? The only problem is I can¡¯t find a USB-C cable rated for more than a couple of Amps.? I¡¯m sure if I look at enough listings I will find one.? I think the solar cell might be a typo, they probably meant 2000W, in not it might be little under powered to recharge it, a quick guess is about a year and a half to charge if you can get 24hr sunshine.? Time to look at eBay real estate for a house with 24 hr sunshine and their at their solar cells for a small 3000W cell I can mount on the little power banks so I can charge them in around 8 hours on the dashboard.? (And then he wakes up)? Why doesn¡¯t eBay have any fact checkers?? So much BS on their site. ? Sorry, I have been looking at options for converting some of my nice flashlights to rechargeable (and my G.C.s) and ran across those insane claims for the cells and the power banks.? I did buy a 10,000mAh power bank on clearance at Sams Club for $9.31 that included a 10W wireless charging pad.? I want to experiment with wireless charging sometime, I can order the magnetic loop antennas off of- oh yeah, here we go again... ? Clay ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geo Dowell
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 6:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Bucket List- Stabilize ENi/LENi/Lionel CDV-700 HV and LV power supplies and possible lead-in to rechargeable 18650 batteries. ? Update, Li cell 18650 on DigiKey, data sheet shows the one they sell as 2600mAh or 2.6A/h Other sources claim far more but one wonders it that's advertising hype.
With even 100mA current, which should be well within the 0.2C rating, a single cell would power an?ENi/LENi/Lionel CDV-700? for at least 26 hours continuous use.
Geo
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Re: Bucket List- Stabilize ENi/LENi/Lionel CDV-700 HV and LV power supplies and possible lead-in to rechargeable 18650 batteries.
"5000000mAh power bank for $17.79!? and it has a built-in 2W solar cell for recharging! "
still laughing! heehee.
George?
----- Original Message ----- From: freshndaire <fanman@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Tue, 31 May 2022 14:52:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Bucket List- Stabilize ENi/LENi/Lionel CDV-700 HV and LV power supplies and possible lead-in to rechargeable 18650 batteries.
Advertising Hype?? You mean I can¡¯t really step up from 2600mAh cells at $1.87 to the 9900mAh cells for $2.08, only $.21 more!? Darn, I guess I really didn¡¯t want those wimpy cells anyway when I can buy a 5000000mAh power bank for $17.79!? and it has a built-in 2W solar cell for recharging!? That¡¯s about 1/3 of the power in a Tesla battery and it fits in a pocket!? I could power a home built electric car for about $50.? I could power my house during power outages!? The only problem is I can¡¯t find a USB-C cable rated for more than a couple of Amps.? I¡¯m sure if I look at enough listings I will find one.? I think the solar cell might be a typo, they probably meant 2000W, in not it might be little under powered to recharge it, a quick guess is about a year and a half to charge if you can get 24hr sunshine.? Time to look at eBay real estate for a house with 24 hr sunshine and their at their solar cells for a small 3000W cell I can mount on the little power banks so I can charge them in around 8 hours on the dashboard.? (And then he wakes up)? Why doesn¡¯t eBay have any fact checkers?? So much BS on their site. ? Sorry, I have been looking at options for converting some of my nice flashlights to rechargeable (and my G.C.s) and ran across those insane claims for the cells and the power banks.? I did buy a 10,000mAh power bank on clearance at Sams Club for $9.31 that included a 10W wireless charging pad.? I want to experiment with wireless charging sometime, I can order the magnetic loop antennas off of- oh yeah, here we go again... ? Clay ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geo Dowell
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 6:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Bucket List- Stabilize ENi/LENi/Lionel CDV-700 HV and LV power supplies and possible lead-in to rechargeable 18650 batteries. ? Update, Li cell 18650 on DigiKey, data sheet shows the one they sell as 2600mAh or 2.6A/h Other sources claim far more but one wonders it that's advertising hype.
With even 100mA current, which should be well within the 0.2C rating, a single cell would power an?ENi/LENi/Lionel CDV-700? for at least 26 hours continuous use.
Geo
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Re: Bucket List- Stabilize ENi/LENi/Lionel CDV-700 HV and LV power supplies and possible lead-in to rechargeable 18650 batteries.
Advertising Hype?? You mean I can¡¯t really step up from 2600mAh cells at $1.87 to the 9900mAh cells for $2.08, only $.21 more!? Darn, I guess I really didn¡¯t want those wimpy cells anyway when I can buy a 5000000mAh power bank for $17.79!? and it has a built-in 2W solar cell for recharging!? That¡¯s about 1/3 of the power in a Tesla battery and it fits in a pocket!? I could power a home built electric car for about $50.? I could power my house during power outages!? The only problem is I can¡¯t find a USB-C cable rated for more than a couple of Amps.? I¡¯m sure if I look at enough listings I will find one.? I think the solar cell might be a typo, they probably meant 2000W, in not it might be little under powered to recharge it, a quick guess is about a year and a half to charge if you can get 24hr sunshine.? Time to look at eBay real estate for a house with 24 hr sunshine and their at their solar cells for a small 3000W cell I can mount on the little power banks so I can charge them in around 8 hours on the dashboard.? (And then he wakes up)? Why doesn¡¯t eBay have any fact checkers?? So much BS on their site. ? Sorry, I have been looking at options for converting some of my nice flashlights to rechargeable (and my G.C.s) and ran across those insane claims for the cells and the power banks.? I did buy a 10,000mAh power bank on clearance at Sams Club for $9.31 that included a 10W wireless charging pad.? I want to experiment with wireless charging sometime, I can order the magnetic loop antennas off of- oh yeah, here we go again... ? Clay ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geo Dowell
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 6:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Bucket List- Stabilize ENi/LENi/Lionel CDV-700 HV and LV power supplies and possible lead-in to rechargeable 18650 batteries.? Update, Li cell 18650 on DigiKey, data sheet shows the one they sell as 2600mAh or 2.6A/h Other sources claim far more but one wonders it that's advertising hype.
With even 100mA current, which should be well within the 0.2C rating, a single cell would power an?ENi/LENi/Lionel CDV-700? for at least 26 hours continuous use.
Geo
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Re: Bucket List- Stabilize ENi/LENi/Lionel CDV-700 HV and LV power supplies and possible lead-in to rechargeable 18650 batteries.
The absolute max capacity for an 18650 lipo is 3400mah. I own a
bunch of ultrafire brand cells. The high capacity (less than 3000
mah) cells' voltage will collapse under high load then recover.
They are poor candidates for power drills, but for low steady
discharge like a geiger counter, they should work well and are
relatively cheap if you buy them on eBay from China
On 5/27/2022 8:00 AM, Geo Dowell wrote:
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Update, Li cell 18650 on DigiKey, data sheet shows the one they
sell as 2600mAh or 2.6A/h Other sources claim far more but one
wonders it that's advertising hype.
With even 100mA current, which should be well within the 0.2C
rating, a single cell would power an?ENi/LENi/Lionel CDV-700? for
at least 26 hours continuous use.
Geo
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Re: Bucket List: a thoroughly modern ENi or....
okay now I want to turn this ENI into one of those since we know the ENI is working.? And I would like to do it for the experience.? Could you drill or stamp the holes in my case?? I don't have the right tools.? and can I buy needed parts from you?
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From: Geo Dowell <GEOelectronics@...>
Date: 5/28/22 5:28 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Bucket List: a thoroughly modern ENi or....
Yes, that's about it. Right now, I'm proving the way to add variable HV with a knob inside, and that small circuit adds a lot more stability to the whole GC, but requires 2 9V batteries to work plus the two D cells. Next step might be to eliminate that
by eliminating the transformer circuit which is the power hog, replacing it with a modern solid state module. This should increase battery life enormously, but for now nothing needs to be done, because we can already select any HV we want via the present Zener
stack, and I have PC Boards with 3 position switches for that ready and in stock.
I had you wait off on the cut trace part because I wanted to go all the way back to the beginning to make sure it was 100% the best way to go, and now I have done that with these last 15 ENi boards. So the way you've been doing it is verified once again.
Thanks for getting me off my but and doing this, it's been on the Bucket List for years to do it, now it's done we can look for more options to add. Later we'll discuss the unit's input sensitivity, something that needs to be boosted if scintillation probes
are to be used, but the solution is a preamplifier circuit, and we have had that all along. Most users will always use GM tube probes anyway, so we don't include that preamp normally unless requested.
Dr. Prutchi did include his version of the preamp in his ENi PRO article, and the timer and digital counter too, we thank him for exploring that area. I always encourage others to build upon my modest beginnings or making these worthy old workhorses better
and to offer more individual choices for users to have their particular version of fun.
Peter, (I call him P.), of our groups came up with a really helpful audio circuit for using the LENi when prospecting, instead of clicking, it converts the clicks to an audio tone, more like a metal detector sounds . I like that a lot and want to build
one for myself just for fun. Check out his work on our sister Group [email protected]
Geo
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael C <mtcooper01@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, 28 May 2022 18:28:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Bucket List: a thoroughly modern ENi or....
so a pancake tube in the bottom, speaker on the side and all the other LENi features....? cool? ?
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Re: Bucket List: a thoroughly modern ENi or....
Yes, that's about it. Right now, I'm proving the way to add variable HV with a knob inside, and that small circuit adds a lot more stability to the whole GC, but requires 2 9V batteries to work plus the two D cells. Next step might be to eliminate that by eliminating the transformer circuit which is the power hog, replacing it with a modern solid state module. This should increase battery life enormously, but for now nothing needs to be done, because we can already select any HV we want via the present Zener stack, and I have PC Boards with 3 position switches for that ready and in stock.
I had you wait off on the cut trace part because I wanted to go all the way back to the beginning to make sure it was 100% the best way to go, and now I have done that with these last 15 ENi boards. So the way you've been doing it is verified once again.
Thanks for getting me off my but and doing this, it's been on the Bucket List for years to do it, now it's done we can look for more options to add. Later we'll discuss the unit's input sensitivity, something that needs to be boosted if scintillation probes are to be used, but the solution is a preamplifier circuit, and we have had that all along. Most users will always use GM tube probes anyway, so we don't include that preamp normally unless requested.
Dr. Prutchi did include his version of the preamp in his ENi PRO article, and the timer and digital counter too, we thank him for exploring that area. I always encourage others to build upon my modest beginnings or making these worthy old workhorses better and to offer more individual choices for users to have their particular version of fun.
Peter, (I call him P.), of our groups came up with a really helpful audio circuit for using the LENi when prospecting, instead of clicking, it converts the clicks to an audio tone, more like a metal detector sounds . I like that a lot and want to build one for myself just for fun. Check out his work on our sister Group [email protected]
Geo
----- Original Message ----- From: Michael C <mtcooper01@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Sat, 28 May 2022 18:28:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Bucket List: a thoroughly modern ENi or....
so a pancake tube in the bottom, speaker on the side and all the other LENi features....? cool? ?
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Re: Bucket List: a thoroughly modern ENi or....
so a pancake tube in the bottom, speaker on the side and all the other LENi features....? cool? ?
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Re: Bucket List: a thoroughly modern ENi or....
and there's a speaker mounted on the side.
----- Original Message ----- From: Michael C <mtcooper01@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Sat, 28 May 2022 16:15:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Bucket List: a thoroughly modern ENi or....
what is the LENi PRO?? I was confusing that with CDV PRO.? ?Are there instructions for the LENi PRO, or,? is it a LENi with all the additional mods done to it?? ?
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<div>It's an expansion on the basic LENi Michael, it has the Speak2Me, the fast/slow response switch, amd a pancake probe in the base.</div><div><br></div><div>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Michael C <mtcooper01@...><br>To: [email protected]<br>Sent: Sat, 28 May 2022 16:15:36 -0400 (EDT)<br>Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Bucket List: a thoroughly modern ENi or....<br></div><div><br></div><div>what is the LENi PRO? I was confusing that with CDV PRO. Are there instructions for the LENi PRO, or, is it a LENi with all the additional mods done to it? <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style="color: white;" data-mce-style="color: white;"></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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Re: Bucket List: a thoroughly modern ENi or....
what is the LENi PRO?? I was confusing that with CDV 700 PRO.? ?Are there instructions for the LENi PRO, or,? is it a LENi with all the additional mods done to it?
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Re: Bucket List: a thoroughly modern ENi or....
"not directly on topic..? I notice the wire you run alongside C1 and C6, the full width of the board.? What is that for?? "
Actually that's very much on topic Michael. Anything CDV-700 related is.
So have fun with it.
Geo
----- Original Message ----- From: Michael C <mtcooper01@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Sat, 28 May 2022 11:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Bucket List: a thoroughly modern ENi or....
not directly on topic..? I notice the wire you run alongside C1 and C6, the full width of the board.? What is that for???
and that new board is great.? Got to be a lot easier to solder on than these old phenolic boards, and more durable.?
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Re: Bucket List: a thoroughly modern ENi or....
That wire across the board coveys the ground connection from one side to another, replacing the trace cut when we shear-cut off for the LENi Pro mod.(the battery box having already? been cut down in the original LENi mods.
Geo.
----- Original Message ----- From: Michael C <mtcooper01@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Sat, 28 May 2022 11:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [CDV700CLUB] Bucket List: a thoroughly modern ENi or....
not directly on topic..? I notice the wire you run alongside C1 and C6, the full width of the board.? What is that for???
and that new board is great.? Got to be a lot easier to solder on than these old phenolic boards, and more durable.?
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looks like they still have them, I checked their website yesterday.? ?
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Re: Bucket List: a thoroughly modern ENi or....
not directly on topic..? I notice the wire you run alongside C1 and C6, the full width of the board.? What is that for???
and that new board is great.? Got to be a lot easier to solder on than these old phenolic boards, and more durable.?
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Re: Who has the oldest and newest ENi CDV-700?
the ENI we just got working here in Oregon is serial number 15,309.? Not original anymore.? The case is in great shape for one of these.??
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Bucket List: a thoroughly modern ENi or....
Bucket List: a thoroughly modern ENi or....Industrial LENi? They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.. G-10 Glass Epoxy circuit board, tin plated brass through-holes. Silver plated solid copper wiring with Teflon sleeving  Actually it's a rugged reusable test be for some radical upgrade experiments to the ENi/ LENi Geo
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