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Re: Question and an interesting site for those that modify CDV700s and more.


Roger Whatley
 

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Peter,

Since the 900+V bias is blocked by the coupling capacitor to the detector circuit, you don't have to worry about that.

The simple notion of a GM I modeled over 2 yrs ago was a 2.6V (the minimum 6993 spec, and then plus one silicon diode drop) negative pulse voltage source of short duration thru a silicon diode to a parallel resistor/capacitor that gives the exponential tail with something like a 75uS time constant. There are other circuit ways to do this but it is basically just as Geo said: It is a switch that turns on at low impedance for a >2V fast negative edge, and then turns off with a slow higher impedance exponential recovery.

That is what I recall using in simulations to model the GM tube output and design the Silicon Retrofit detection in both the Lionel and Vic's. basically, it was just tweaking the respective input sensitivity of the two designs in simulation to respond reliably to the "pulse" or "spike" that comes from the GM tube.


I have not really yet found a motivation for the Series Regulator although it is a simple change with one additional HV pass transistor.

rogerw



On 4/3/2022 11:00 AM, peter via groups.io wrote:

Roger:
?The series regulator flavor sounds interesting too!

I don't have any idea as to what a spice model of PMT or a gm tube would be.?
I wonder if there are spice models for gas discharge tubes ? ESD and lightning protection tubes are still commonly used so I would assume spice models would be available.
You could probably take a gas discharge tube's model and tweak it ?



P

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