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"Light Bulb" EDM ???


 

Be aware that this unit has no line isolation built in, and can be extremely
dangerous.
bill
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mueller914
 

In the latest issue of one of the home shop Machine mags, they had a
feature with a home built EDM which for some reason used light bulbs
(controlling the freq. I guess)

anyone have more detailed plans for the electrical side of this
project or point me in the right direction?

I have a few broken exhaust studs that I'd like to remove myself

Thanks,

Mike


 

Light bulbs are low cost high wattage and low resistance resistors. I looked
at it quickly and it seems the light bulb was serving as a current limit
resistor for when the electrode shorts out.

Tim
[Denver, CO]

----- Original Message -----


In the latest issue of one of the home shop Machine mags, they had a
feature with a home built EDM which for some reason used light bulbs
(controlling the freq. I guess)

anyone have more detailed plans for the electrical side of this
project or point me in the right direction?

I have a few broken exhaust studs that I'd like to remove myself

Thanks,

Mike


Corey
 

I've built it, it works but VERY slowly. I would only
use it again after eliminating all possible mechanical
solutions.

The light bulbs are to limit peak current (they are in
series). I posted the plans to one of the Yahoo
groups last year, I don't remember which and I no
longer have them on my drive.

c
--- mueller914 <mmueller@...> wrote:
In the latest issue of one of the home shop Machine
mags, they had a
feature with a home built EDM which for some reason
used light bulbs
(controlling the freq. I guess)

anyone have more detailed plans for the electrical
side of this
project or point me in the right direction?

I have a few broken exhaust studs that I'd like to
remove myself

Thanks,

Mike
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mueller914
 

So what is my "safe" alternative for a DIY sinker EDM?

The plans I've seen are for wire and I have no desire for that as of
now.

Mike

--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., wanliker@a... wrote:
Be aware that this unit has no line isolation built in, and can be
extremely
dangerous.
bill
List Mom


 

You can also check out this site.

At 07:50 PM 10/24/2002 +0000, you wrote:
In the latest issue of one of the home shop Machine mags, they had a
feature with a home built EDM which for some reason used light bulbs
(controlling the freq. I guess)

anyone have more detailed plans for the electrical side of this
project or point me in the right direction?

I have a few broken exhaust studs that I'd like to remove myself

Thanks,

Mike


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Country Bubba
 

Check with Dan Mauch at:



as he has an excellent set of plans!

"Usual disclaimer, only a satisfied customer"

At 09:11 PM 10/24/02 +0000, you wrote:
So what is my "safe" alternative for a DIY sinker EDM?

The plans I've seen are for wire and I have no desire for that as of
now.

Mike
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Marv Frankel
 

Mike,
I know absolutely nothing about EDM, but in one of my former lives, I
was somewhat of an expert in removing broken studs from truck engines,
aircraft engines, and even broken spark plugs. Sometimes you have to worrry
the hell out of the broken part, but most of the time they come out, either
the whole stud, or in pieces. If you want me to walk you through some
removal scenarios, email me off list.

Marv Frankel
Los Angeles
dcdziner@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott A. Stephens" <sstephenssprint020@...>
To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] "Light Bulb" EDM ???


You can also check out this site.


At 07:50 PM 10/24/2002 +0000, you wrote:
In the latest issue of one of the home shop Machine mags, they had a
feature with a home built EDM which for some reason used light bulbs
(controlling the freq. I guess)

anyone have more detailed plans for the electrical side of this
project or point me in the right direction?

I have a few broken exhaust studs that I'd like to remove myself

Thanks,

Mike


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Hi Mike,

I first heard of this from Don Lancaster. See:



and




In the light bulb version, the bulbs act as dynamic current
regulators when the spark gap is lost from contact.

All the best,
James



--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "mueller914" <mmueller@n...> wrote:
In the latest issue of one of the home shop Machine mags, they had
a
feature with a home built EDM which for some reason used light
bulbs
(controlling the freq. I guess)

anyone have more detailed plans for the electrical side of this
project or point me in the right direction?

I have a few broken exhaust studs that I'd like to remove myself

Thanks,

Mike


 

mueller914 wrote:

So what is my "safe" alternative for a DIY sinker EDM?
The plans I've seen are for wire and I have no desire for that as of now.
FOr the power supply, I have made a slow, but functional EDM for burning out small taps.
See for my info on that. For larger jobs like your
exhaust studs, you could turn up the current a good deal.

But, it should be possible to drill these studs out to near the root diameter of the threads,
and then pick the remaining metal apart in a few minutes. There are special left-handed
drills for this purpose.

Be aware that this unit has no line isolation built in, and can be
extremely
dangerous.
I would never use such a contraption, and I'm pretty blas about such hazards, usually.
At the very least, use an isolation transformer. But, I had much better results with
about 30 V DC.

Jon


 

Post it to the list, and then we can move on, otherwise at leas xx number
will post asking for it. Then it is Off Topic.
bill
List Mom


Franco Candido
 

Hello Mike I have two full size EDM's Japax, plus mills. But when it
comes to taking out exhaust manifold studs that are really rusted in there.
I have found a rust disolving solution that is fantastic. All you do is heat
it up a little, I used an old kettle, you don't have to boil the water based
rust remover, just warm or hot. This speeds up the process, and within
24hrs. the studs can be removed with just your fingers. The rust remover
only disoles the rust and goes right between the threads. I used to spend
hours just setting up the manifolds to remove the studs, not any more.
Franco Candido
candidomold@...

From: mueller914 <mmueller@...>
To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:50 PM
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] "Light Bulb" EDM ???


In the latest issue of one of the home shop Machine mags, they had a
feature with a home built EDM which for some reason used light bulbs
(controlling the freq. I guess)

anyone have more detailed plans for the electrical side of this
project or point me in the right direction?

I have a few broken exhaust studs that I'd like to remove myself

Thanks,

Mike


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Raymond Heckert
 

Franco,
Please enlighten us further. What is the name of the
rust-disolving fluid? Do you know if it's available
internationally? This is probably, now an O.T. post, so
please respond to me directly:

RayHex jnr@...

----------
From: Franco Candido <candidomold@...>

Hello Mike I have two full size EDM's Japax, plus
mills. But when it
comes to taking out exhaust manifold studs that are
really rusted in there.
I have found a rust disolving solution that is fantastic.
All you do is heat
it .......


John
 

Rust dissolving fluid is tartanic acid based. It's _exactly_ the same stuff
in the coke your kids and I drink too much of. I don't know if there's a
high enough concentration of it to work in coke though. I bought some from
an auto shop and it's a greeny coloured gel. You just paint it onto the
areas, leave it for ten or so minutes, then agitate it with a scouring pad,
toothbrush or paintbrush. You can then leave it a while longer or wipe it
off and apply a new layer. After a little while the gel looses it's
dissolving ability.

For light scaling of rust it might take one go to get it clean and another
to shiny. For really heavy rust it'll take a few. The more you can scrub off
first the better. Although it doesn't attack the clean metal like it does
the rust, it seems to leave a slightly dull appearance on the surface.

All the best,
John H.


Franco,
Please enlighten us further. What is the name of the
rust-disolving fluid? Do you know if it's available
internationally? This is probably, now an O.T. post, so
please respond to me directly:

RayHex jnr@...

----------
From: Franco Candido <candidomold@...>

Hello Mike I have two full size EDM's Japax, plus
mills. But when it
comes to taking out exhaust manifold studs that are
really rusted in there.
I have found a rust disolving solution that is fantastic.
All you do is heat
it .......
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