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Admin Note: 300

Bill Miller
 

My goal of 300 members by May 16th, the one year anniversary of the list,
was met today for the first time. Congrats to Tim Organ. :)


Re: conductor's log

W. Regaudie
 

Got my vote also. Bill? :)


From: "Jim Wright" <jhwright@...>

My vote is for more of the same!

Jim

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From: "john kochan" <specialk9@...>
Subject: [C-P-R] conductor's log


From: "john kochan" <specialk9@...>

these are the details of one of my latest trips on the windsor sub.
friday march 24,train 747-london to detroit,let me know what you
think...whether this is totally useless information...needs more/less
detail...etc..


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Re: Overhaul 4-axle units

Luc Lanthier
 

CP 3111 is enroute to Montreal on 482-24 Departure Thunder Bay, Ont. tonight
after an overhaul at Ogden.

Do we know what kind (if any) new paint scheme they applied on the unit ?

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Miller <bmiller@...>
To: C-P-R@... <C-P-R@...>
Date: Monday, March 20, 2000 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [C-P-R] Overhaul 4-axle units


From: Bill Miller <bmiller@...>


STLH got the OK from CP to overhaul several 4-axle units at Ogden Shop and
(3) of the ugly (but unique) 4600's will get done this year. CP 4657 may
be
the first one........
Yes, it's in the shop already.

Also in are 3024 and 3111.



Bill


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eXpressway service to Detroit

 

Message text written by Peter Jobe:
I've heard that the first day of service is Tuesday April 4th, with one
train in each direction.
Test trains may be operated, but only into Windsor. The yard tracks under
construction are not tied into the mainline yet. This should happen this
week though. Asphalt plants don't open in Detroit for another couple of
weeks, so no roads will be in to load and unload the trains on. Revenue
service will likely be two to three weeks.


Gordon Webster
Columbus, Ohio, USeh
gordon67@...


Re: CP 3084 now in script

 

From: morgants@...

If CP is willing to repaint a 4 axle unit in it's beautiful maroon and grey
scheme, why are they reportedly eager to get rid of the SOO and D&H schemes o
other 4 axle units? It does not make sense. Tom.

Tom & Sheri Morgan
Scranton PA

D&H, CP, CAR, MILW,StL&H, SOO
The Beaver covers 2 nations
"Eager" i would say is overstating the matter. None of the D&H have been or
are likely to be brought in simply for a repaint in red.

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Re: conductor's log

Jim Wright
 

My vote is for more of the same!

Jim

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----- Original Message -----
From: "john kochan" <specialk9@...>
To: <C-P-R@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 7:58 PM
Subject: [C-P-R] conductor's log


From: "john kochan" <specialk9@...>

these are the details of one of my latest trips on the windsor sub.
friday march 24,train 747-london to detroit,let me know what you
think...whether this is totally useless information...needs more/less
detail...etc..


Re: eXpressway service to Detroit

specialk9
 

i was by the detroit terminal on train 747 on friday..it doesn't look like
it can be ready by apr.4th but rapid progress is being made...we haven't
heard anything but rumors in london yet and no jobs have been advertised for
running trades yet.(they have to be advertised at least six days in advance)

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Jobe <pjobe@...>
To: C-P-R list <C-P-R@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 8:20 PM
Subject: [C-P-R] eXpressway service to Detroit


From: Peter Jobe <pjobe@...>


I've heard that the first day of service is Tuesday April 4th, with one
train in each direction.




Peter Jobe

Mississauga, Ont.
18.1 CP Galt Sub.





























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Re: 3084

Douglas Cummings
 

From: gordon67@...

Message text written by Doug:
On the F's the numbers and letters are the wrong style (font?) and size
and
not even positioned correctly. On the 3084 all I asked was is it correct?
I
never said anything was wrong with it, that is what I am asking. Whether
the
letters are paint or tape is irrelevant, they hardly paint any of the
lettering and striping these days, it is usually all done with vinyl<
In your original past, you also mentioned colour Doug. That was really
what I was getting at.
In my original post I only asked if the paint colors were correct. Various
people have said the grey on the F's is not correct. I do not know if it is
or not, I refuse to photograph them (the F's) looking as crappy as they do,
and the only way to tell is to compare photos. Of course colors often tend
to vary a bit depending upon who provided the paint and the paint code, and
all paint fades and changes color over time, witness the CPR's red era with
some locos looking more pink than red over time.


eXpressway service to Detroit

Peter Jobe
 

I've heard that the first day of service is Tuesday April 4th, with one
train in each direction.




Peter Jobe

Mississauga, Ont.
18.1 CP Galt Sub.


Re: 3084

Peter Jobe
 

Well at least they're trying, better than nothing.

However, 98% accuracy would be much more desirable than 80% but then again,
the person paying the seven grand to ride behnd these units, wouldn't know
the difference, just as long as it looks good. "image is everything"

lastest trace shows 3084 at Sutherland Yard, Saskatoon.




Peter Jobe

Mississauga, Ont.
18.1 CP Galt Sub.


rail fanning-North Bay

camerons
 

Hi Guys:

Sights and sounds at the RLK (CP) yard North Bay......MP 117.3 Norh Bay sub , today ( Sunday March 26/00)

There certainly were some interesting lashups today:-

CP 5874, SOO 759, CP 9016, CP 6040, RMRR 804, CP 6000, CP 5805, CP 9002
CP 5798, CP 6026, CP 6006
RLK 1800
RLK 2002, RLK 3586, RLK 5006
CP 6062, CP 5811
CP 5951........complete train of empty intermodel cars ( except for two)
CP 9008, HLCX ( ex BN) 7182, CP 6013, CP 5714, CP (ex UP) 5424, CP 6039
CP 5987, CP (SOO) 6618, CP 6022, SOO 6609

cheers

Doug


Re: CP 3084 now in script

RR Auer
 

Regardless that it may be the OC scheme, it is very appropriate for their
new stomping grounds. I suppose I should have looked at the cover of issue
#116 of some magazine, I can't recall which off-hand, showing OC M420 3567
and HR412 3588 in their splendid scheme. ;>)

===============
Rainer Auer
Morinville, AB
===============

----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Courtney <glennc@...>
To: <C-P-R@...>
Sent: March 26, 2000 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [C-P-R] CP 3084 now in script


From: "Glenn Courtney" <glennc@...>

Based on my viewing of Bob Winkler's photos the PWR units are in Ohio
Central colours, not any variant of CPR's maroon & grey.

Glenn Courtney
Oakville, Ontario
Canadian Shortines / Regionals Editor
CTC Board Railroads Illustrated


From: "Rainer Auer" <auerr@...>

Sounds like a job for Kicking Horse and his telephoto lense. Slowly but
surely we are getting more maroon/tuscan and grey units out there,
although
some are variations of the scheme. A shot of Pacific Wilderness GP10
706
at
Wellcox Yd was posted to a.b.p.r. by Bob Winkler yesterday and although
obstructed by some brush, it and it's sister are also in a tuscan, grey
and
yellow scheme.

===============
Rainer Auer
Morinville, AB
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Miller <bmiller@...>
To: <C-P-R@...>
Sent: March 25, 2000 5:05 PM
Subject: [C-P-R] CP 3084 now in script


From: Bill Miller <bmiller@...>

Brian Rosenkranz reports that CP 3084 was pulled out of Ogden today
3/25/00
in fresh maroon and gray SCRIPT ....... we need photos of this !!

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conductor's log

john kochan
 

these are the details of one of my latest trips on the windsor sub.
friday march 24,train 747-london to detroit,let me know what you
think...whether this is totally useless information...needs more/less
detail...etc..


friday,march 24,2000
train 747/24 ordered for 1115 hrs.(747 is all loaded
auto-racks,terminating in chicago)
leading loco:cp 5635 sd-40 trailing:cp 5558 sd-40
loads:55 empties:0 gross tons:4414 length:5161'

1135hrs-board train
1151 -obtain ocs clearance from begin/end ctc sign london to east
siding switch glencoe.protect against foreman cudney from begin/end
ctc london to mile 7 windsor sub.
1155 -obtain authority to proceed from foreman cudney,no
restrictions.
1157 -depart outer main track switch(domts)
1220 -stopped by cn westbound(eng.5700)at komoka diamond.15min delay
1222 -obtain clearance from east siding switch glencoe to east
siding switch bothwell.
1302 -track release mile 33
1310 -arrive bothwell,take siding for train 500(cp 8580 east)
1316 -cleared to east siding switch kent bridge.protect against
foreman laughton from west siding switch bothwell to east siding
switch kent bridge.
1353 -cleared by foreman laughton,no restrictions.
1355 -depart kent bridge
1359 -track release east siding switch bothwell.
1415 -clear main track at kent bridge for meet with 528(cp 1103
east)(toronto-bound roadrailer)
1455 -cleared from kent bridge to ringold
1500 -depart kent bridge
1515 -cleared from ringold to tilbury
1540 -arrive tilbury,clear main track for meet with 922(cp 5630
east)
1552 -track release east siding switch tilbury
1553 -cleared to begin/end ctc sign walkerville
1607 -depart tilbury
1645 -track release begin/end ctc sign walkerville
1657 -stop at college ave.(entrance to tunnel)wait for another 500
to come through(cp 8548 east)
1723 -depart college ave.
1735 -stop signal at conrail west detroit.
1750 -depart west detroit
1802 -stop at delray
1830 -depart delray
1845 -yarded at csx rougemere yard on westbound main.
1850-1910-cab to hotel in windsor.
1925 -off duty

if the feed-back on this is positive,i'll put my return trip on
another posting.


CP coal trains

 

Last night I saw a CP coal train with only 2 ACs' headed for Roberts Bank in
Langley. The train had one midtrain and one robot with aluminum Procor
hoppers. This is the first time I've seen a coal train with only two units.
Is this a result of the directional running down from Kamloops?
Chris


Re: CP 3084 now in script

Glenn Courtney
 

Based on my viewing of Bob Winkler's photos the PWR units are in Ohio
Central colours, not any variant of CPR's maroon & grey.

Glenn Courtney
Oakville, Ontario
Canadian Shortines / Regionals Editor
CTC Board Railroads Illustrated


From: "Rainer Auer" <auerr@...>

Sounds like a job for Kicking Horse and his telephoto lense. Slowly but
surely we are getting more maroon/tuscan and grey units out there,
although
some are variations of the scheme. A shot of Pacific Wilderness GP10 706
at
Wellcox Yd was posted to a.b.p.r. by Bob Winkler yesterday and although
obstructed by some brush, it and it's sister are also in a tuscan, grey
and
yellow scheme.

===============
Rainer Auer
Morinville, AB
===============

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Miller <bmiller@...>
To: <C-P-R@...>
Sent: March 25, 2000 5:05 PM
Subject: [C-P-R] CP 3084 now in script


From: Bill Miller <bmiller@...>

Brian Rosenkranz reports that CP 3084 was pulled out of Ogden today
3/25/00
in fresh maroon and gray SCRIPT ....... we need photos of this !!


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Re: 3084

Joe Smuin
 

If I'm not mistaken, another inaccuracy of the F unit project is that
shade of grey on the F units is a tad too light. If my personal
experience trying to get things done on the railway is any indicator, a
lot of these projects like repainting the F units and now the 3084 are
carried out by folks that are not particularly knowledgeable about the
historical reality and quite frankly, couldn't care less. Thus, the
recreations we get today, will be an approximation, in most cases, of
the original. Frustrating as that can be for us purists, I guess it's
better than nothing.

The curious thing about some of these projects that get goofed up, is
that there are so many knowledgeable people around, including retired
employees and officials that could provide answers and guidance. Yet
when the companies come to do these sorts of projects, it is as though
they are attempting a difficult technical challenge that nobody has ever
done before.

Joe Smuin

Douglas Cummings wrote:


From: "Douglas Cummings" <ihp@...>

From: gordon67@...

Message text written by Douglas Cummings:

Does anyone know if they did a proper job on the 3084, the right
colors
and
proper number and lettering style, or is it botched up like the
F's?

The lettering on the Fs does have a lot to be desired. But what is
wrong
with the colours? Yes, the letters are tape instead of paint, but
what
are
the other problems?
On the F's the numbers and letters are the wrong style (font?) and
size and
not even positioned correctly. On the 3084 all I asked was is it
correct? I
never said anything was wrong with it, that is what I am asking.
Whether the
letters are paint or tape is irrelevant, they hardly paint any of the
lettering and striping these days, it is usually all done with vinyl

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Re: 3084

 

Message text written by Doug:
On the F's the numbers and letters are the wrong style (font?) and size
and
not even positioned correctly. On the 3084 all I asked was is it correct?
I
never said anything was wrong with it, that is what I am asking. Whether
the
letters are paint or tape is irrelevant, they hardly paint any of the
lettering and striping these days, it is usually all done with vinyl<
In your original past, you also mentioned colour Doug. That was really
what I was getting at.


Gordon Webster
Columbus, Ohio, USeh
gordon67@...


HO Kato SD40-2 snoots

dcooke
 


Heck, if someone was making a CP SD40-2, that was correct, I'd buy at
least
20 of them. There are lots of folks that I know that would buy some as
well.

Chris Davidson

I agree!
I sure am not willing to cough up $200.00 for something that is:
a) inaccurate
b) have to spend possibly 50 dollars to correct.

Too bad that Kato doesn't make a interchangeable type of nose/cab
assembly... For instance, a Canadian and a U.S. version
(ie; high headlights vrs. high bell).

DC


Re: 3084

Douglas Cummings
 

From: gordon67@...

Message text written by Douglas Cummings:

Does anyone know if they did a proper job on the 3084, the right colors
and
proper number and lettering style, or is it botched up like the F's?
The lettering on the Fs does have a lot to be desired. But what is wrong
with the colours? Yes, the letters are tape instead of paint, but what
are
the other problems?
On the F's the numbers and letters are the wrong style (font?) and size and
not even positioned correctly. On the 3084 all I asked was is it correct? I
never said anything was wrong with it, that is what I am asking. Whether the
letters are paint or tape is irrelevant, they hardly paint any of the
lettering and striping these days, it is usually all done with vinyl


Pacific Wilderness

Douglas Cummings
 

. A shot of Pacific Wilderness GP10 706 at
Wellcox Yd was posted to a.b.p.r. by Bob Winkler yesterday and although
obstructed by some brush, it and it's sister are also in a tuscan, grey
and
yellow scheme.
These are Ohio Central locomotives are in full Ohio Central colors, but with
PW on the hood. OHCR reporting marks are on the battery boxes.