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CP Rail
Calgary, Alta.
Palliser Station December 31, 1969
1600-"Canadian" from Vancouver-change of power-stranger MLW/Alco FPA-2
4096 added .
Unit 4096 along with 4094, 4095, 4097 and at times 4082, 4083 operated
on "Atlantic Limited" service Montreal-Saint John, N.B. with MLW/Alco
FPB-2 units 4463 and 4464. Also MLW/Alco RS-10's of 8400 series. Often
if no B-units RS-10's 8463, 8464, 8465, 8466 and the odd MLW/Alco RS-18
of 8700series. The odd MLW/Alco of 8500 series could be observed. One
thing I can remember on the FPA-2's they had a good sounding tone of
whistle.
Port Coquitlam, B.C.
July 2, 1980.
Freight from east, runthrough to Sapperton interchange SD40-2's
5729-5696.
Via/CP "Canadian" east bound CP units-FP7-A 1400-GP-9's 8515-8526 total
16 cars.
westend yard engine-GP-9 8659
freight arriving from east-SD40-2's 5601-5741-5804-5842.
Same location-July 6, 1980
Via/CP eastbound "Canadian" all CP units-FP9-A 1409-GP-9 8521-FP9-A1413.
total 15 cars.
Same location-August 4, 1980
Via/CP eastbound "Canadian" all CP power-FP9-A 1407-FP-B 1964-FP9-A
1424. total 15 cars.
Remarks: B-unit 1964 renumbered.
Same location August 20, 1981
Via/CP "Canadian" from east-running 10 hours late-delayed due to rock
slides at Field, B.C.
All CP units-FP7-A 1423-FP-B 1961-GP-9 8523 total 14 cars.
Remarks: B-unit 1961 renumbered.
September 19, 1981
Same location-coal-unit train from southeast B.C. runthrough to Pacific
Coast Terminals at Port Moody. PCT is a Cominco subsidiary in turn all a
CP Limited subsidiary. SD40-2 units 5762-5927-5960.
Don Scott-Coquitlam, B.C.

Rainer:

A question for Drew and others. How much CPR activity is there on the Ottawa
Valley route,

I'm not sure sure what your asking but the RaiLink-Ottawa Valley route is all
CPR. Originally we had planned for about 16 trains a week but the last year has
been up to 30! I can get actual figures if you want.

and is it used for any intermodal traffic?

It is pretty well 90% intermodel with a couple of mixed freights in there each
week.

I think the subject
may have come up in the past, but is AC power used on the line?

A couple of AC's (from both manufactures) has in deed slipped through, once even
in the lead! But as a rule, no!

If you would like more info on the CPR Ottawa Valley train statistics, let me
know.

Drew

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There was a query on the CPRSOO list regarding the status of CPR H1b 2816.
As I've unsubscribed from CPRSOO I have no way to tell if anyone has
responded to the query. I visited the BC Rail steam shop Friday and have a
small amount of information to pass along.
2816 has been in the shop for a couple of months or so. The tender sits
outside. All boiler insulation and cladding has been removed as well as
most piping and boiler fittings. The stoker has been removed in
preparation for conversion to fuel oil firing. My understanding is that
the boiler is being readied for hydrostatic testing. The results of this
and the other inspections currently being made will be used to determine
whether to proceed with the full restoration or not. From the inspections
made to date, the boiler appears to be in generally good condition. A new
cab is to be built and the tender needs fuel oil conversion work and
repairs to fix up some corrosion damage to the top platework. A time frame
of 9 months was mentioned for the restoration. Personally, I think it
might run longer than this unless CP wants to fast track the job and put a
big crew on it. None of this is official, just a tidbit from casual
conversations.
At the time of my visit 2860 was sitting outside the shop all fired up and
undergoing safety valve setting. A crew was standing by to take her out
for a spin as soon the safeties were done. If everything checked out OK
she would have made her first trip on the regular run to Squamish and
return today, Saturday. 3716 had been standing in on the 'Royal Hudson'
runs so far this year.
Bill Brown
Richmond, BC

A question for Drew and others. How much CPR activity is there on the Ottawa
Valley route, and is it used for any intermodal traffic? I think the subject
may have come up in the past, but is AC power used on the line?
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Rainer Auer
Morinville, AB
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G-5 modern light 4-6-2 1201 arrived from Ottawa and its consist of
passenger cars-streamlined light-weight baggage-combination coach(built
1936 for streamlined 4-4-4 Jubilees of the 3000 series. Also in consist
heavy-weight coaches of 1300 and 1400 series, some lettered Canadian
Pacific, Canada Atlantic, and Dominion Atlantic in the tuscan red paint
scheme. 1201 and her consist were on display at Port Coquitlam station,
prior to making a fast run through Port Moody enroute to CP's downtown
Vancouver station and on to CPR's Drake Street yard on the Expo grounds.
1201 was placed alongside former CP "Royal Hudson" 4-6-4 2860. A good
display of "live steam" all types and classes of locomotives, including
a peppy 0-6-0 4400 class former Union Pacific yard engine, a Great
Western lettered 2-8-0 #50. Locomotive whistles blew steady during
"Steam Expo". One could stand beside 4-6-2 1201 and Royal Hudson 2860
and admire their lines. Speaking of 1201, along with 1200 they were
built as proto-types in 1944 at Angus Shops in Montreal, under the
direction of H.B. Bowen Chief of Motive Power and Rolling Stock.
Locomotive 1200 was assigned Winnipeg West usually on freight service,
while sister 1201 was assigned to passenger service out of Montreal
running west on the Smiths Falls-Perth local service. CPR's G-5 Class
1200 series proved so successful, the company ordered 100 more of this
class from the period 1945 to 1948, numbers 1202 to 1301. In the east
from Ontario-Quebec-New Brunswick these locomotives were assigned to
passenger service, while Winnipeg to Alberta some assigned to passenger
others for freight service. CPR's long range plans, if not for the
diesels, were to build a good 400 more to replace ageing 4-6-0's
including the famous D-10 Class. From all records known 4-6-2 1201 was
the only one of her class to arrive on the West Coast. A few 1200's
especially in passenger service could be found in Southeast B.C. For a
day while 1201 was in the Vancouver area, to celebrate the annual
"Golden Spike Days" in Port Moody, the sleek, clean lines G-5 and her
consist were placed on the Imperial Oil spur line for viewing. One of my
sons and myself met the crew-all from down east, and two hours before
1201 and her consist were ready to head back east to Ottawa, all dropped
into my residence to look over some of my CP collection. The CPR Port
Coquitlam Yard was located close-by. During "Steam Expo" steam power all
took their turn, to show "their stuff" beginning at the eastend of CP
yards past the station and working their way back to Expo 86 area. When
"Royal Hudson" 4-6-4 2860 passed by including 1201, they stole the
show. Thousands of spectators. CPR steam was known for their clean
lines, and CP steam a design all of their own.
Don Scott-Coquitlam, B.C.

some other photo sources of the back end of CP tenders:

a) CP 2380 - oil tender - lettered "2380", "WATER 12000 GALS", "OIL 4700
GALS"
b) CP 434 - coal tender - lettered "434", "5000 GALS", and then three lines
of very small text. This tender also has a warning printed at the bottom
outside corner on both sides: "EMPLOYEES ARE ............. NOT ....
......... .... FOOT BOARD WHEN ENGINE IS APPROACHING". Does anyone know
what the missing words might be?

Both photos are in Editor David Morgan's Canadian Steam, which unfortunately
lacks page numbers.

I'll send an update if I come across anything clearer.
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Rob Sterne wrote:

Bill Miller wrote:

I'm going out to play Scrabble tonight.

Scrabble? <G>
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Paul Hammond
Mile 18.73 Railink Southern Ontario Hagersville Sub.
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Caledonia Ontario Canada

"Railink 3502 getting close to Simpson Y.A., looking for the light to
the North side at paris 63 cars, Over."

CPR operated gas-electrics in New Brunswick-between Chipman-Woodstock
return. This particular run connected with CP northbound passenger
service originating at McAdam via Woodstock-Aroostook enroute to
Edmundston, N.B. The same connection southbound or eastbound would be
made with a passenger out of Edmundston enroute to McAdam, then the
oil-electric connection Woodstock back to Chipman. The Edmundston
passenger service actually originated at Saint John both ways. At the
same time Edmundston trains connected at McAdam with westbound Saint
John-Montreal and Saint John-Boston service westand eastbound, plus
service to and from St. Stephen and the Saint Andrews service. Gas
electric's in the mid-1950's replace steam powered passenger trains on
the Saint John-Fredericton local passenger with a trailer unit. Later
Gas Electrics were introduced to the McAdam-St. Stephen passenger run,
replacing 4-4-4 Jubilees in the late 1950's. Locomotives over the 1940
late 1950's on this run over the years were 2926, 2928 and 2929.
Locomotive 2929 arrived new in McAdam-Saint John when new in 1937 and
over the years assigned to a number of passenger runs-Saint John-McAdam,
St. Stephen-McAdam-Woodstock, Saint John-Fredericton. During the late
1950's 4-4-4 2929 was moved to Montreal, holding down the
Montreal-Sutton local passenger service.
Don Scott-Coquitlam, B.C.

Pre 1928, its very hard to tell.

If you go here you can see an example that appears like there is no
lettering on the back of the tender.


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But if you look at this photo it appears that the tender has very faint
lettering. (or I'm imagining things)


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Unfortunately I have no clear photo of the butt-end of a tender from pre
1928.


After 1928, when the lettering scheme changed to have "Canadian Pacific" on
the tender, the tender received the engine number in what appears to be 9"
lettering with xxxx GALS in 3" lettering underneath the engine number.

The CPR never put the coal capacity on their tenders. Many photographs I've
seen had the tender heaped to sky with coal so I doubt they cared at all
what was the coal capacity. If you could fill the bin it was enough, I
guess.

There's a picture of butt-end of a tender on Page 448 of Omar Lavallee's
book "Canadian Pacific Steam Locomotives". Sorry I don't know of a web
picture to point you to. Nor do I have a scanner to send a picture.

As you can imagine there wasn't a lot of interest in photographing the
butt-end of a tender.

Jeff Pinchbeck

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Having spent a week watching trains on the Mountain Sub some questions and
comments arise. So in no particular order, here goes.
1. I noticed that a lot of trains were instructed to stop in Golden for
refueling. Why? Aren't the units serviced and/or changed at Alyth? Or
does this have something to do with fuel usage going over the mountains?
2. The steam vegetation train was in the yard at Revelstoke. Consisted of
CP301623, CP422000, CP400901, CP400900, CP415500, CP421322 and CP415501.
Are they going to be trying it out in the mountains?
3. Between trains, I noticed an awful lot of Canadian Pacific containers
being transported by truck on the TCH. Has the company ever made an effort
to get this traffic back on the rail? I would assume that most of the
traffic I saw was not for local delivery.
4. Who cleaned the grain cars? On this trip I could actually read most of
the reporting marks on these cars. Two years they were absolutely filthy.

For those of you who might be interested, I had a chance while I was on
vacation to watch the work train assigned to clean up the potash cars from
the derailment just east of Field. The line-up from East to West was:
CP434406 Caboose
CP403018 Golden Tool Car
CP404939 Golden Cable Car
CP421306 Cabin Idler
CP414400 150 TonCapacity Golden Auxiliary
CP337247 Gondola
CP414502 250 TonCapacity Golden Auxiliary
CP420950 Cabin Idler
CP6066
CP6055
Pretty impressive sight watching them get ready to drag the remaining three
potash cars up the hill from the Kicking Horse River. Of course that kind
of work tends to close the mainline down for an extended period of time.

Re Manny Jacob's message on C-P-R regarding gas-electrics. When living
in the Maritimes CP and the other railway called them-Jitneys,
gas-electrics, and oil-electrics. With the other railway the fumes were
terrible, and they stunk. These units regardless could really travel at
high-speeds.
Don Scott-Coquitlam, B.C.

Funny you know, I have noticed that people from different parts of the country
have different terms for these, as they do cabooses and speeders. What you
describe sounds like a "railbus" to me. Anyone care to comment on the terms and
why they might be region-specific?

Caboose and van, speeder, jigger and motorcar.

Manny

Greetings:

Perhaps somebody on the list could provide me with information or
pictures of the Gas Electric's CP used to run. I had information at
one point but it was lost when my computer crashed.
Also, how similar is the Bachmann model to the prototype?
Any help would be appreciated.

David.
ICQ# 30604449

Would anyone happen to have a photo of the back of a CPR tender? I want
to see the font and formating of "_Tons Coal" and "_Gallons Water".
Please e-mail me. Thanks.

Rob

I need photos of CP Rail SD40-2s 5586 and 5840. Can someone please help me?

Thank you.

Manny Jacob
Kitchener, Ont.

"Manny's CP Rail SD40-2 site" ...

Since we put this list up last weekend, 99 (of the best) people have signed on from CPRSOO. For some odd reason, everyone is waiting for lightning to strike before getting involved however.

I'm going out to play Scrabble tonight. Let's see if we can get some contributions so I can be happy when I get home and get a good night's rest. :)

Donald Scott please confirm that you have received this so I know my direct sub of your address worked.

Everyone have a great May 24 weekend.





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I haven't seen any comments regarding what the status (expected operational
date) is on the new facility being built in the Vancouver area.
Corresponding with Don Scott (struggling with this subscription but he'll be
on line shortly) the existing intermodal facilities in Vancouver appear at
capacity plus. With the continuing growth in this sector, the push must be
on for completion. Anyone able to enlighten me?

Rainer