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Re: SD40's to Dakota Minnesota & Eastern


"Rainer Auer" <[email protected]
 

To Bob, Drew et al I appreciate your comments and the descriptions of the
workings of P.T.C.. My questions and terms of reference were based on the
terminology used in the "Canadian Trackside Guide". These twelve units are
upgraded SD40s to SD40-2 electricals, but definitely are not SD40-2s. As to
Q-Tron and whatever components they manufactured to enhance the tractive
effort of these units, I merely presumed there to be a distinction between
their components (as used in the SD40s) as opposed to those used on the
SD40-2 units. There were 24 CP SD40s (plus 5 of the ex QNSL SD40s) upgraded
to the 82,500 lb. rating.

The question then arises, did Q-Tron supply the Positive Traction Control
for the 208+ SD40-2s that had their tractive effort upgraded, or was this
equipment provided by another supplier? No, I won't bring RaiL...Amer...
into the picture.

Rainer

----- Original Message -----
From: Sooke's <keiko@...>
To: <C-P-R@...>
Sent: May 18, 1999 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [C-P-R] SD40's to Dakota Minnesota & Eastern


From: "Sooke's" <keiko@...>

Bob and all,


One point of interest, Rainer. Q-Tron is an electronics company, based
in Calgary, I believe, not the name of a device.
And for the record, Q-Tron (yes they are in Calgary) was just
bought/obsorbed or
otherwise taken over by MPI, Motive Power Industries!

Q-tron builds numerous
electronic devices used on CPR, including about 90% of the speedometers
used on the SD-40s when the original mechanical analogue speedos were
replaced, and the Speed Control which controls the speed of the
locomotive when the train is loading with coal.
As well as the Datacord 6000 Event Recorders, which in fact are a 'black
box'.
(even RaiLink[oops] uses Q-Tron)

The feature you refer to which increased the hauling capacity of the
locomotive was known as the PTC or Positive Traction Control. This
device replaced some of the Electronic modules used in the -2s and, from
what I understand, monitored the amperage going to each traction motor
and when the electricity was cut back to a particular traction motor to
stop the slipping, the extra electricity was transferred to a motor
that
was not slipping.
You will notice that some units have an 'axle generator' and cable on each
axle.
Those are the units that have PTC or some form of it. As the axle turns,
it
'generates' a pulse/signal that is sent up to the Isolation Amp. From
there, the
signal can be used for such things as the speedometer, pace setter, event
recorder, crew alert/RSC, as well as being able to look at all six pulses
and
determine when a wheel is slipping!

A locomotive with only one or two axle generators would have the older,
more
primitive relay type of wheel slip protection.

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