Dec. 27,1859 states Fart Gratiot.? How about Fort.
Mark is checking to see if we read what he writes. LOL
Doug Renshaw
Burlington, ON.
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Re: This Weekend in CNR History
We are talking about two different wars. In WWII there was no attempt to re-form something like the USRA that had run the railroads during WWI, but there was a strong feeling that transportation needed to be coordinated on a national basis. That task was given to the War Department. It's a bit of a coincidence that the railroad takeovers for two wars 25 years apart happened on nearly the same date.
I included this US information on the CNR list because the order applied to CN properties in the U.S.
Mark Tomlonson
Life isn’t just about surviving the storm; it’s about learning to dance in the rain.
On Friday, December 27, 2024, 10:23:41 AM EST, Bruce Smith via groups.io <smithbf@...> wrote:
Mark,
I think that you meant December 27, 1917, not 1943 ?. It was actually ordered by President Wilson on December 26th, effective December 28th.
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
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December 27, 1943 The War Department takes possession of all U.S. railroads.
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December 28, 1917 The United States Railroad Administration takes over operation of all U.S. railroads at 12:00 noon.
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December 28, 1918 The USRA establishes eight hours as the basic workday, with time-and-a-half the standard for overtime.
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Re: This Weekend in CNR History
Mark,
I think that you meant December 27, 1917, not 1943 ?. It was actually ordered by President Wilson on December 26th, effective December 28th.
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
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December 27, 1859 The Grand Trunk Railway completes construction of the rail line from Toronto to Sarnia ON. Train ferry service is
begun to make the connection across the St. Clair River to Fart Gratiot (later Port Huron MI).
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December 27, 1902 During a raging blizzard, the “Pacific Express” slams into a freight train near Wanstead ON. The two Grand Trunk
trains collide as the freight was pulling into the siding for the meet. Thirty-one people are killed.
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December 27, 1943 The War Department takes possession of all U.S. railroads.
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December 28, 1917 The United States Railroad Administration takes over operation of all U.S. railroads at 12:00 noon.
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December 28, 1918 The USRA establishes eight hours as the basic workday, with time-and-a-half the standard for overtime.
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Mark Tomlonson
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This Weekend in CNR History
December 27, 1859 The Grand Trunk Railway completes construction of the rail line from Toronto to Sarnia ON. Train ferry service is begun to make the connection across the St. Clair River to Fart Gratiot (later Port Huron MI).
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December 27, 1902 During a raging blizzard, the “Pacific Express” slams into a freight train near Wanstead ON. The two Grand Trunk trains collide as the freight was pulling into the siding for the meet. Thirty-one people are killed.
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December 27, 1943 The War Department takes possession of all U.S. railroads.
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December 28, 1917 The United States Railroad Administration takes over operation of all U.S. railroads at 12:00 noon.
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December 28, 1918 The USRA establishes eight hours as the basic workday, with time-and-a-half the standard for overtime.
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Mark Tomlonson
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December 26 in CNR History
December 26, 1896 The Lake Manitoba Railway and Canal Company operates its first train from Dauphin to Portage la Prairie. Within two years the company is renamed the Canadian Northern Railway Company (later CN).
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Mark Tomlonson
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December 24 in CNR History
December 24, 1873 The first through train between New Orleans and Chicago on the Illinois Central arrives in Cairo IL. The train has crossed the Ohio River by ferry.
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December 24, 1878 The Grand Trunk and the Chicago & Lake Huron Railroads reach an agreement shaping the consolidated railroad, which will eventually be known as the Grand Trunk Western.
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December 24, 1954 Last steam on the Detroit, Toledo & Ironton.
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December 24, 2008 The United States Surface Transportation Board approves the sale of the Elgin, Joliet & Eastern to Canadian National.
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Mark Tomlonson
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December 23 in CNR History
December 23, 1851 Ground is broken in both Chicago and Cairo IL for the Illinois Central.
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December 23, 1930 The Detroit-Toledo Railroad merges with the Detroit, Toledo & Ironton. Detroit-Toledo has been a DT&I subsidiary for the last 15 years.
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December 23, 1968 Canadian National Railways begin using Turbos in revenue service.
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Mark Tomlonson
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This Weekend in CNR History
December 20, 1918 "Canadian National Railways" is approved as the new name for Canadian Government Railways.
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December 20, 2021 After several challenges to the motion, the Surface Transportation Board approves the sale of 650 miles of Canadian National branch lines in Wisconsin and in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula to WATCO.
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December 21, 1948 Grand Trunk Western opens a new passenger depot in Grand Rapids MI. The structure and associated trackage costs $250,000. ($3.3 million in 2024 dollars.)
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Mark Tomlonson
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December 19 in CNR History
December 19, 1881 The land grant railroad Detroit, Mackinac & Marquette (later DSS&A, SOO, WC, CN, GDLK) reaches St. Ignace, spanning Michigan's Upper Peninsula.
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December 19, 1887 The Illinois Central completes its line to Sioux Falls SD.
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December 19, 1919 The Canadian National Railways is created by an Order in Council. The creation is meant to unite and rescue five bankrupt railroads: the Grand Trunk, Grand Trunk Pacific, Canadian Northern, Intercolonial and Canadian Government Railways. The new CNR is the longest railroad in North America, with over 50,000 km (31,000 miles) of track in Canada and the United States.
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Mark Tomlonson
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Re: Caboose for sale by CN - Alberta Prairie 903717
From CN: Free transportation will be provided but the buyer has to ship/return the trucks within 20 days of movement.
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See below from CN:
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"If you are interested in this unit, please send us your bid by Wednesday ?Dec 18th, 2024 17:00 EST.
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Car is safe to travel and could be delivered to a designated location. However CN will retain the 4 wheel sets, so once they are removed from the railcar, they must be returned to their original location at the buyer’s expenses within 20 days after the railcar is received.
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***Note***
CN will cover the portion on the CN line. If the customer is off the CN line, they will need to cover the freight after the interchange."
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December 18 in CNR History
December 18, 1893 The Ottawa, Amprior & Parry Sound Railway (later GT) opens an extension from Amprior to Eganville ON.
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December 18, 1962 The Interstate Commerce Commission approves Detroit, Toledo & Ironton control of the Ann Arbor Railroad.
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December 18, 1983 Canadian National abondons track between Renfrew Junction and Whitney ON on its Renfrew Subdivision.
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Mark Tomlonson
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Metra PTC Installation at the Rocket House - CTA Skokie Shops - Holiday Trains at Railroad & Shortlines Club of Chicago
Railroad & Shortlines Club of Chicago 7:30 pm Central Standard Time Friday, December 20, 2024 Please do not arrive before 7:15 pm. Also, if you are participating on Zoom, please do not join before 7:15 pm on the day of the meeting. Zoom meeting codes are at the end of this message. Our next meeting will be both an in-person meeting and a Zoom meeting. If enough people from outside the Chicago area attending Zoom meetings become Club members, this will encourage the Club to make hybrid meetings a permanent feature. Dues are $20 which includes four glossy newsletters sent by mail. The dues renewal is sent with the fourth newsletter. We still have slide shows which will not be presented via Zoom. Here are details about joining Railroad & Shortlines Club of Chicago: In-person meeting location Chicago Union Station Room 107A 500 W Jackson Blvd (enter between Clinton and Canal) Chicago, Illinois Metra PTC Installation at the Rocket House - CTA Skokie Shops - Holiday Trains by Bill Edwards Bill Edwards has behind the scenes photographs at Metra Rock Island 47th Street shops and at CTA Skokie Shops. He'll also have a plethora of trains decorated in holiday colors. Railroad & Shortlines Club of Chicago meets at 7:30 pm Central Time on the third Friday of the month except in July and August. The in-person meeting location is Chicago Union Station Room 107A. Enter at 500 W Jackson Blvd which is between Clinton and Canal. Upcoming programs January 17, 2025: to be announced February 21, 2025: Prague & Munich by Mike Lehman March 21, 2025: TP&W by Bill Shapotkin; this will be a slide presentation, in-person meeting only April 18, 2025: to be announced May 16, 2025: Layover in Savanna by Leo Phillipp For program announcements, please subscribe to our groups.io mailing list. Send a blank email message To: [email protected]To obtain Zoom meeting codes for future programs given by Zoom, the best way is to subscribe to our groups.io mailing list. Web site: Email: shortlinechicagoHS@... Facebook: Phone number answered during the program: 312 725-0432. At other times, leave message with your name and telephone number to receive a call back. Zoom meeting invitation Topic: Metra PTC Installation at the Rocket House - CTA Skokie Shops - Holiday Trains by Bill Edwards Time: 7:30 pm CST Friday December 20 2024 Join Zoom Meeting Meeting ID: 810 8968 7625 Passcode: 997503 One tap mobile 3126266799,,81089687625#,,,,*997503# US (Chicago) 3092053325,,81089687625#,,,,*997503# US Dial by your location 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) 309 205 3325 US 646 931 3860 US 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) 305 224 1968 US 646 558 8656 US (New York) 720 707 2699 US (Denver) 253 205 0468 US 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) 346 248 7799 US (Houston) 360 209 5623 US 386 347 5053 US 507 473 4847 US 564 217 2000 US 669 444 9171 US 689 278 1000 US 719 359 4580 US Meeting ID: 810 8968 7625 Passcode: 997503 Find your local number:
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December 17 in CNR History
December 17, 1954 First fully-automated railroad freight yard opens, on the Elgin, Joliet & Eastern in Gary IN.
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Mark Tomlonson
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December 16 in CNR History
December 16, 1910 In Kinmundy IL, a standing Illinois Central freight is struck by another train that could not slow on a grade due to icy track. No injuries are reported, but the collision breaks open a live poultry car. Many residents of Kinmundy will enjoy a Christmas turkey dinner courtesy of the railroad.
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Mark Tomlonson
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Re: December 11 in CNR History
how much of the Ottawa Centeral CN got back is still in service?
On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 11:09 Mark Tomlonson via <tomlonson= [email protected]> wrote: Thanks for the update, Steve! I'll rework my notes.
Mark Tomlonson
Life isn’t just about surviving the storm; it’s about learning to dance in the rain.
On Friday, December 13, 2024, 11:52:24 AM EST, headtailgrep via <steve= [email protected]> wrote:
Hi Mark, you'll have to update this one. The Ottawa Central was purchased along with portions of QRC Corporation by CN in 2008 and CN resumed service after the deal closed.
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Re: Caboose for sale by CN - Alberta Prairie 903717
They plan to keep the trucks. I wonder why it's not shippable by
rail. Must have some other major defect.
Why is it painted like this though? was it a museum piece?
On 12/12/2024 5:20 PM, Andrew Gray via
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can’t retruck it and ship it by rail?
Alberta prairie" 903717 - photo supplied? by CN for the
below. What happened to this to get in CN's possession?
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CN has
the below Caboose ?that need to be dismantled on site
in CN Edmonton, AB. If you are interested in
dismantling this unit, please submit your pricing and
your earliest start date as well as the estimated
duration for completing the demo by Wednesday
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CN6514
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Caboose
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4
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Re: December 11 in CNR History
Thanks for the update, Steve! I'll rework my notes.
Mark Tomlonson
Life isn’t just about surviving the storm; it’s about learning to dance in the rain.
On Friday, December 13, 2024, 11:52:24 AM EST, headtailgrep via groups.io <steve@...> wrote:
Hi Mark, you'll have to update this one. The Ottawa Central was purchased along with portions of QRC Corporation by CN in 2008 and CN resumed service after the deal closed.
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Re: December 11 in CNR History
Hi Mark, you'll have to update this one. The Ottawa Central was purchased along with portions of QRC Corporation by CN in 2008 and CN resumed service after the deal closed.
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This Weekend in CNR History
December 15, 1896 The first section of what will become the Canadian Northern (later CN) is laid between Gladstone and Dauphin, Manitoba.
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Mark Tomlonson
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Re: Caboose for sale by CN - Alberta Prairie 903717
can’t retruck it and ship it by rail?
Alberta prairie" 903717 - photo supplied? by CN for the below. What happened to this to get in CN's possession?
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CN has the below Caboose ?that need to be dismantled on site in CN Edmonton, AB. If you are interested in dismantling this unit, please submit your pricing and your earliest start date as well as the estimated duration for completing the demo by Wednesday ?Dec 18th, 2024 13:00 EST.
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CAR ID
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EQUIPMENT TYPE
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TARE WEIGHT(LBS)
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PARTS TO BE KEPT
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Net tone
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LOCATION
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CN6514
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Caboose
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TBD
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4 wheel sets.
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TBD
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Train
Edmonton, AB
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Bruce Smith
Andrew Gray