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A Good Book
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Confession: I don't know half what I used to know about electronics, and what I used to know is about half of what I'd like to know. I studied electronics in my high school years, and even used to fix the school systems CRT TV's for extra credit. Can anyone recommend a good mid-to-advanced book for radio electronics? Something that covers circuit design?? Thanks. Andrew Krause General Class Amateur Radio License: KM4ZJO |
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Everything by Joseph Carr.? Google joseph carr radio (to avoid the wines) and pick your interest.? I have an old one on designs for amateur radio that has great theory and application. Discrete analog.? And tubes sometimes. Then pick up others that interest you.? No point in getting a restoration guide for old radios if you like to mess with antennas. 73 Larry KB3CUF On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Andrew Krause <andrew.krause@...> wrote:
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And you go to love Doug Demaw! Free PDF here!
Mike, WA6ISP On 7/3/2017 7:31 AM, Larry Acklin
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Funny you mention that - I have a Drake TR3 with the MS-4 power supply, non working. I'm planning to fix/restore it, and do some light modification (nothing externally obvious).? On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Larry Acklin <acklin@...> wrote:
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I had the original hardbound version! That vanished. I bought many cheap Indian copies by BPB publications and they too vanished. I finally found one which I will not share! Amazon is expensive but dig around. At 03-07-2017, you wrote:
Confession: I don't know half what I used to know about electronics, and what I used to know is about half of what I'd like to know. I studied electronics in my high school years, and even used to fix the school systems CRT TV's for extra credit. Can anyone recommend a good mid-to-advanced book for radio electronics? Something that covers circuit design?? |
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Ken KM4NFQ
Greetings, Experimental Methods in RF Design.(I have the 2005 edition) The Art of Electronics 3E.On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Andrew Krause <andrew.krause@...> wrote:
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I agree. All the books and articles of Doug Demaw (and Joseph Carr).
The two great books by W7ZOI, especially EMRFD. See the introduction to fundamentals on Hans Summers website, a very good source: Good hunting. If you see something on the internet, archive it. It won't be long before you have several GB worth. But it has a way of disappearing overnight, so get it while you can. john AD5YE |
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A ton of good information can be found searching the QST archives at I've learned so much by reading the articles by hand summers and Rick campbell....now I need to search the other names mentioned in this thread. 73 AC3AX On Jul 3, 2017 5:19 PM, "John Backo via Groups.Io" <iam74=[email protected]> wrote: I agree. All the books and articles of Doug Demaw (and Joseph Carr). |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI started looking at Hans Summers.? Wow,? I never saw this before! So much detail! Great Stuff! Mike, WA6ISP On 7/3/2017 2:19 PM, John Backo via
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I agree. All the books and articles of Doug Demaw (and Joseph Carr). The two great books by W7ZOI, especially EMRFD. See the introduction to fundamentals on Hans Summers website, a very good source: Good hunting. If you see something on the internet, archive it. It won't be long before you have several GB worth. But it has a way of disappearing overnight, so get it while you can. john AD5YE -- Mike Hagen, WA6ISP 10917 Bryant Street Yucaipa, Ca. 92399 (909) 918-0058 PayPal ID "MotDog@..." Mike@... |
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Demaw, Goodman, Mccoy were pertinent in their own times and did produce great stuff. One could always visit them for inspiration and nostalgia. the experimental methods in rf design is really the most contemporary book. It not only updates but also points out the mistakes made by traditional understanding. For instance, the hum from direct conversion was not understood by the earlier works. Similarly, working with hexfets, broadband amplifiers,etc. The things that make homebrewing so much easier now are not found in the old texts. So, if I were you i would buy the EMRFD. My second recommendation would be the Art of Electronics. - f On 4 Jul 2017 6:12 a.m., "Michael Hagen" <motdog@...> wrote:
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI had " The Art of Electronics", loaned it to a young Engineer!? Never got it back! Expensive Book, $60.? Kind of an odd book, goes
randomly describing circuit design? Useful?? and interesting. I would advise the free ones mentioned here, a much better deal. Hans Summer describes the first couple years of Electrical Engineering in College.
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The third edition came out just last year. It had a foreword by limor aka lady ada. - f On 4 Jul 2017 8:57 p.m., <genesilvernail@...> wrote: The Art of Electronics |
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The Art of Electronics book is a good recommendation.? Some of the recommendations are for older technology books.? While the basics have not changed over the years, much of the terminology has evolved or been supplemented.? Using more modern books may be a better approach because it will bring you up to speed with today's terminology, technology, and methods.? Using Google is a way to get access to all the latest information, but caution is recommended because there is so much false or incorrect information floating around the web, making it easy to become mislead and misinformed. Arv? K7HKL _._ On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...> wrote:
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The Art of Electronics book is a good recommendation.I was hired in 1992 by a small but high powered engineering company founded by the brother of one of the authors (Horowitz). All new hires were given a copy of the book for their office. (I believe the practice stopped when he sold the company several years later.) Sadly, the books remained the property of the company and had to be left behind when you departed. (I don't know about others but I did the right thing and didn't take it with me, although the temptation was there!) |
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Ken KM4NFQ
Chapter ONE of Experimental Methods in RF Design (EMRFD) is available at: More on the first transmitter here:and more stuff related to EMRFD here: The latest iteration of EMRFD is the Classic Edition. A CD-ROM is included with two additional Classic Editions (scans of printed books in PDF format) written by Wes Hayward, W7ZOI. Solid State Design for the Radio Amateur (1986) Introduction to Radio Frequency Design (1994) SSDRA is the precursor of EMRFD. IRFD is Maths intensive. Regards, Ken, KM4NFQ |
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I just want to say that I have a hard time with people posting PDF links to in-print material that is copyrighted. Someone worked very hard to create a text to educate others. They're entitled to profit from that. Furthermore, this knowledge has value, and is worth paying for.? It appears that this single chapter is made freely available, so no foul here. But the other day someone posted an entire scanned PDF of a book. What are the groups rules on this?? On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 4:50 PM Ken KM4NFQ <km4nfq@...> wrote:
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Jack Purdum
I appreciate your comments, Andrew, especially since there are literally hundreds of sites where my books are being given away free. My daughter works at a major publishing house and they have three people on staff whose only job is to find such sites and have the legal department issue cease and desist orders. It's like trying to divert Niagara Falls with a bucket.? I enjoy writing. If I didn't, I would have stopped years ago because, financially, it's no longer worth it. And therein is the problem. Good authors who depend on writing income can no longer afford to write. Books that would have brought knowledge, pleasure, and joy to thousands simply won't be written. ?If a new author gets lucky and gets a book published and it is successful, it is quickly copied and neither the author who did the work nor the publisher who took the risk, are rewarded. It doesn't take an economist to figure where that goes. Clearly, it is tempting to download a book that you want and not have to pay for it. As I stand here with my bucket, I know there's nothing I can do to stop those people who make our property available for download. Given that, my position is: If you take my book and read it and feel that you have benefited from it, then go out and buy a copy. It's as close to a win/win as we're going to get. You get the read the book risk free and, if I've done a good job for you, you end up paying me in the end. I also feel that those who do that actually feel better having paid for the book. Telling you not to download a free book probably isn't going to sway anyone. However, if it turns out to help you, you should help that person in return. Jack, W8TEE From: Andrew Krause <andrew.krause@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2017 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [BITX20] A Good Book I just want to say that I have a hard time with people posting PDF links to in-print material that is copyrighted. Someone worked very hard to create a text to educate others. They're entitled to profit from that. Furthermore, this knowledge has value, and is worth paying for.? It appears that this single chapter is made freely available, so no foul here. But the other day someone posted an entire scanned PDF of a book. What are the groups rules on this?? On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 4:50 PM Ken KM4NFQ <km4nfq@...> wrote:
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Ken KM4NFQ
Hello Andrew, May I suggest that you go to your local PUBLIC LIBRARY and see if you can obtain any of the suggested titles, to see if any of them are suitable for what you want a GOOD BOOK for? I suggest using the Pubic Library's INTERLIBRARY LOAN service to obtain books that are not in your branch library's collection (if your library has an InterLibrary Loan Service?).If you find that the title is NOT what you are looking for, then you have not wasted any money, and you won't have a book that you cannot use on your bookshelf. I suggest taking a look at to search all the book mongers for any title? (In-Print, Used) you are looking to purchase. The Art of Electronics 3rd Edition. Horowitz & Hill. (List: $120.00) Experimental Methods in RF Design (Classic Edition). Hayward, et al. (List: $49.95) I have the Revised First Edition. I have the 2nd edition of Practical Electronics For Inventors, but there are later editions available (4th edition - List $40.00). I have the 2005 edition of The ARRL HANDBOOK For Radio Communications, but there are later editions available (2017 edition - List: $49.95) Earlier editions have more homebrew projects in them? However, as with most older electronics projects, you may have trouble sourcing parts? Or, you can challenge yourself by updating an old project with newer parts? Whatever. Remember that ordering ANY book directly from the Publisher will ensure that all monies paid for the book will be distributed properly. The CD that comes with EMRFD (Classic Edition) has IRFD and Soild State Design for the Radio Amateur in PDF format, from the PUBLISHER. Both of those books are currently out-of-print. If you do not want those PDFs, then the CD in the back of any earlier edition of EMRFD will not have them included. Once again, CHAPTER ONE of EMRFD is available from the PUBLISHER at: One of the AUTHORS of EMRFD (Wes Hayward, W7ZOI) offers ERRATA for EMRFD at his site, where software updates are also available. You might find this page useful as well: where you can find?More on the EMRFD "First Transmitter" from Chapter 1. On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Andrew Krause <andrew.krause@...> wrote:
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Jack Purdum
?I suggest you download a sample chapter and see if the author's writing style is to your liking. Sometimes the Table of Contents and/or Index of the book is available. ? ?KM4NFQ I agree totally. Many books sold on Amazon have a Look Inside banner on the cover. Clicking on that allows you to see parts of the book. I use that to examine the Table of Contents first, to see if the book at least touches on my interests. After the TOC, I check the index. Most of the books I buy are for reference and a good index is a must. Indeed, for my Beginning C for Arduino, I used special text markers for every entry to be added to the index...there were at least 500 entries. The publisher totally ignored them and the index is horrible. We had a heart-to-heart for the 2nd Edition's index. They still ignored some of my markers, but it's better.? Using Amazon to read the TOC, Index, and the reviews can lessen the risk of a disappointing book purchase. Jack, W8TEE From: Ken KM4NFQ <km4nfq@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [BITX20] A Good Book Hello Andrew, May I suggest that you go to your local PUBLIC LIBRARY and see if you can obtain any of the suggested titles, to see if any of them are suitable for what you want a GOOD BOOK for? I suggest using the Pubic Library's INTERLIBRARY LOAN service to obtain books that are not in your branch library's collection (if your library has an InterLibrary Loan Service?).If you find that the title is NOT what you are looking for, then you have not wasted any money, and you won't have a book that you cannot use on your bookshelf. I suggest taking a look at to search all the book mongers for any title? (In-Print, Used) you are looking to purchase. The Art of Electronics 3rd Edition. Horowitz & Hill. (List: $120.00) Experimental Methods in RF Design (Classic Edition). Hayward, et al. (List: $49.95) I have the Revised First Edition. I have the 2nd edition of Practical Electronics For Inventors, but there are later editions available (4th edition - List $40.00). I have the 2005 edition of The ARRL HANDBOOK For Radio Communications, but there are later editions available (2017 edition - List: $49.95) Earlier editions have more homebrew projects in them? However, as with most older electronics projects, you may have trouble sourcing parts? Or, you can challenge yourself by updating an old project with newer parts? Whatever. Remember that ordering ANY book directly from the Publisher will ensure that all monies paid for the book will be distributed properly. The CD that comes with EMRFD (Classic Edition) has IRFD and Soild State Design for the Radio Amateur in PDF format, from the PUBLISHER. Both of those books are currently out-of-print. If you do not want those PDFs, then the CD in the back of any earlier edition of EMRFD will not have them included. Once again, CHAPTER ONE of EMRFD is available from the PUBLISHER at: One of the AUTHORS of EMRFD (Wes Hayward, W7ZOI) offers ERRATA for EMRFD at his site, where software updates are also available. You might find this page useful as well: where you can find?More on the EMRFD "First Transmitter" from Chapter 1. On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Andrew Krause <andrew.krause@...> wrote:
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